Akzyra Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) Looking good, do they work with the old OSA and OSex version? Edit: why not post responses like that on the nexus? Oh right, you would get banned! Why are you trying to play the nice person while trying to game the system of Nexus Archival? Just apologize, make a cut in this drama. OSA+ will be cool if you focus all your energy on it. But if you want the drama, here: Are you trying to work with nexus admins? I dont think so , as you want all old files removed any way possible Are the animations yours or not? Popup vs Copyright Claim and your discord Behind the scenes you are a very different person. Edited November 20, 2021 by Akzyra 4
ninjagaidenguy Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Here are the screenshots taken from your Discord, the Pink Malware in your Mod and The Nexus Removal note. At minimum you LIED about doing all the work and all the animations Don't @ me with animations you claim to have done I don't care how good or bad they are by your own admittance you have not done most of the animation and then lied about it. 4
CEO 0S Posted November 20, 2021 Author Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Akzyra said: Looking good, do they work with the old OSA and OSex version? Why are you trying to play the nice person while trying to game the system of Nexus Archival? Just apologize, make a cut in this drama. OSA+ will be cool if you focus all your energy on it. But if you want the drama, here: Are you trying to work with nexus admins? I dont think so , as you want all old files removed any way possible Are the animations yours or not? Popup vs Copyright Claim and your discord Behind the scenes you are a very different person. I made this animation just for you to say I'm so sorry, I have a whole pack coming focused on expressive finger gestures, this is my favorite position in the set. Edited November 20, 2021 by CEO 0S
Jindale Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 9 hours ago, ninjagaidenguy said: Protecting your work does not include putting malware into it, claiming all the animations were personally done by you and then today talking down your mod due to a "Copywrite claim" from a third party that according your take down message did a lot of the animation for the mod. This is incredibly condescending to the community and to the users of the mod and I will never be using or downloading anything of yours again. I would really like to know what is this "malware" you speak of. Point it out, direct and exact. I been running OSex for years, even redownloaded a week back just be sure to be on the absolute latest versions, and not ONCE have I seen anything that would compromise the stability of the game, or the system.
cooldown1337 Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 Spoiler 4chan told me there was drama to be enjoyed. Hmm, a meltdown? *grabs popcorn*
corvinus18 Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) CEO. This is simple a DICK-MOVE. Nothing else. There is no valid EXCUSE to attack the comunity in this way. I was really happy to see you back after 3 YEAR OF NO DEVELOPMENT, you literaly ABANDONED this project, maybe because is time consuming and probably dint get any proper retribution and recognition from it. I can understand that, its a great project and you probably felt like you dont want to spend time on it anymore, you burned yourself and decided to quit, like a lot of modder. And when i saw you back, i was thinking: wow is great OSTIM and OSA will grow up together. OSA´plus as the great framework, and OSTIM as the mod that adds the cool "addons". Then you released a DICK-UPDATE that mess with the people using OSTIM in the load order, and that is a fact, and more impressive is that you attacked THE COMUNITY, not only Ostim, THE COMUNITY. I ask myself here a lot of thinks. You sayed SAI stole your work with that that shaddy remark, I as a lawyer will tell you that this is not correct, you give him his blessing in his project, YOU GAVE HIM PERMISION, licensed him in development, endorse his development... what is the change of mind now? If you wanted to revoque permisions, or change the development path because you saw a abuse, why not come and talk to him before this, why no come to agrement and talk about the diferences in developments before this. As far as i understand SAI was surprised by the update too. No, you decided to atack OSTIM and the comunity. After reading alot in your server, for me is still no clear your reasoning. A lot of rumble, but not a proper clear reason. Why atack the comunity that only showed support and love for your mod and block indirectly OSTIM development? Thats what you did. The people started to use your mod again its because OSTIM, and the reason is clear... its because YOU STOPED THE DEVELOPMENT 3 YEARS AGO. Why i am using OSTIM and not sexlab? Its because its more performance friendly and mostly BECAUSE THE ADDONS, Ostim addons are comming close to implement the atractive part of SEXLAB. My point here is your mod its great, but cant stand by his own. Why would i choose a really detailed sex mod with no real interaction in the world and shaddy information on how to use it. Ostim did this, make the development clear, and added addons to properly use what you leave here abandoned. For me you lost all trust, and sadly TRUST is really hard to regain, i will be following this to see where this goes, and see if this change my mind in future, but cearly not supporting you. Today i was planning to start supporting you on patreon, but then i started to see all of this, and after this... forget it... A modder who abandoned his project for 3 years, came back and atack the comunity with a update that mess with the user.... is not someone who can be trusted. For me the only reason you starting this development again after 3 absence year is because 1 and only reason, and its no because of the love of mods, you want money so you can make a living out of it, and i can understand that. But for that reason so im not giving you that. You are making a monopoly out of it so you can get the most profit of it. If you chosed another path to work together OSTIM project i was happy to contribute to your mod, but from now into the future. Forget it. Edited November 20, 2021 by corvinus18 15
Akzyra Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jindale said: I would really like to know what is this "malware" you speak of. Point it out, direct and exact. I been running OSex for years, even redownloaded a week back just be sure to be on the absolute latest versions, and not ONCE have I seen anything that would compromise the stability of the game, or the system. Decompile oOmni.pex and you get this: The included uncompiled scripts are missing this code... if Quest.GetQuest((game.GetModByName("OStim.esp") != 255 || "OSexIntegrationMainQuest" as Bool) as String) as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimSubthreads") as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimUpdateQuest") as Bool ui.Invoke("HUD Menu", "_root.WidgetContainer." + glyph as String + ".widget.loveconquersall") miscutil.printconsole("O:66412389142") else miscutil.printconsole("O:1248") endIf This opened a popup saying you have mods that prirated OSA/OSex, but you could not close it, effectivly stopping users from playing the game completly. The latest version has the popup removed, and if I read the Flash Code correctly stops just OSA from working. Edited November 20, 2021 by Akzyra 7
CEO 0S Posted November 20, 2021 Author Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) On 11/20/2021 at 12:03 PM, corvinus18 said: CEO. This is simple a DICK-MOVE. Nothing else. There is no valid EXCUSE to attack the comunity in this way. Don't worry man I'm announcing a new PLUGIN as my official apology for developing my own mod. I will let you get back to threatening me, doxxing me and making 3k monthly off of all of my work I did which was intended to be free. Community I formally apologize for developing my mod and I give to you my latest creation: Edited November 21, 2021 by CEO 0S 1
Jindale Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Akzyra said: Decompile xxx and you get this: The included uncompiled scripts are missing this code... if Quest.GetQuest((game.GetModByName("OStim.esp") != 255 || "OSexIntegrationMainQuest" as Bool) as String) as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimSubthreads") as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimUpdateQuest") as Bool ui.Invoke("HUD Menu", "_root.WidgetContainer." + glyph as String + ".widget.loveconquersall") miscutil.printconsole("O:66412389142") else miscutil.printconsole("O:1248") endIf This opened a popup saying you have mods that prirated OSA/OSex, but you could not close it, effectivly stopping users from playing the game completly. The latest version has the popup removed, and if I read the Flash Code correctly stops just OSA from working. Well, don't steal content, pretty simple you'd think? If it connects down to this matter with animations copyright claim claiming Ceo stole the animations, I'm having extremely hard time believeing that. Some of the animations have been in OSex since its inception, way back when it didn't still even have the visual UI, and SexLab animations packs have Never been so smooth or nuanced as OSex's. Plentiful and more modular, yes. But inferior in quality, which speaks far greater volumes about the craftwork that went into them.
DonClop Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, CEO 0S said: Don't worry man I'm annoucning a new PLUGIN as my official apology for developing my own mod. Community I formally apologize for developing my mod and I give to you my latest creation: LMAO, that is really cute. Such a protest lol. 1
CEO 0S Posted November 20, 2021 Author Posted November 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, beautiful_pauline4 said: thanks for this mod. You're very welcome thanks for taking the time to drop some kind words. ❤️ 1
Akzyra Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jindale said: Well, don't steal content, pretty simple you'd think? If it connects down to this matter with animations copyright claim claiming Ceo stole the animations, I'm having extremely hard time believeing that. Some of the animations have been in OSex since its inception, way back when it didn't still even have the visual UI, and SexLab animations packs have Never been so smooth or nuanced as OSex's. Plentiful and more modular, yes. But inferior in quality, which speaks far greater volumes about the craftwork that went into them. That's not an excuse to brick a user game! CEO would have been banned from Nexus if they did not backpedal. Arthmoor can be petty and do weird stuff (see drama around the original VR patch for USSEP,; or when people call out the tweaks in USSEP that are not bugfixes), but he never went this far. Edited November 20, 2021 by Akzyra 9
CEO 0S Posted November 20, 2021 Author Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) Streaming live now in my discord: Edited November 21, 2021 by CEO 0S 2
DonClop Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, CEO 0S said: Do you guys realize I'm making this plugin LIVE as we speak in my discord? I've never been this inspired before but you can watch me animate this all right in front of you eyes and see all the magic behind scenes in THE MAKING OF: Nah, i left kindergarden years ago, don't want to come back. 8
Psalam Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 This thread is locked until enough time has passed for tempers to cool. I appreciate that the issue is one that arouses a great deal of passion but, frankly, if you can't make your comments (addressed to all of you) in a way that helps and/or entertains then the Thread may have to remain locked. 5
Psalam Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 This Thread is now reopened pending everyone controlling themselves. Please do not make me regret this decision.
Ragnaroy Posted November 20, 2021 Posted November 20, 2021 I just don't get any of this. It makes no sense to just destroy everything out of the blue, mods are made to be built upon eachother 8
CEO 0S Posted November 21, 2021 Author Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, knightblade150 said: Finally, I can flip off Nazeem just as Talos intended! Not only that but you can do it together with your waifu as a beautiful paired animation.
CEO 0S Posted November 21, 2021 Author Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Ultralich999 said: P.S. I'm actually interested in finger gestures animations, might install the framework just to play around with them, it's a fun idea really. The plugin was made yesterday it even has a spank. The problem is it's only paired flipping people off. You and your follow together could do it but it doesn't have solo animations. I'll release the paired version in time. A simple and quick solo one is a great idea though, I'll make a + module for that, would be pretty good. Edited November 21, 2021 by CEO 0S
Guest Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 If you're going to delete replies that don't violate a rule, simply because someone doesn't like direct and truthful discussion, then there's really no point in leaving this thread unlocked. Either allow discussion, or don't, but pretending to allow and curating the content into an artificial hug box is disingenuous and feckless. Is this a forum, or a blog?
Psalam Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, no13 said: If you're going to delete replies that don't violate a rule, simply because someone doesn't like direct and truthful discussion, then there's really no point in leaving this thread unlocked. Either allow discussion, or don't, but pretending to allow and curating the content into an artificial hug box is disingenuous and feckless. Is this a forum, or a blog? Since that is directed at me (since I'm the one who hid the posts) let me reiterate the conditions I laid down yesterday. A post must be educational or entertaining. If it is rude and insulting it will be removed. If it has no value to the readers of this Thread it will be removed. If the author of such posts makes a habit of violating those rules then they will have the same punishments applied as other Rule breakers. For reference, here are the first 2 Rules of LoversLab: Spoiler The biggest and most important thing of this community is that the modders come first. They are the ones who make this community worth coming to, they are the ones enabling you to even play these mods. Meaning if you don't like the way a mod is going, don't be a jerk about it, they can take the mod in whatever direction they want. Don't like it? Then make your own release and put the work in yourself. Find a bug or issue that needs to be fixed? Don't be a jerk about it and raise your concerns and feedback in a constructive manner. Don't be a jerk. Seriously, does this really need to be said? Please don't make me enforce them. I prefer it when the Membership can behave like mature adults and I can play Skyrim rather than spending hours monitoring LL conversations. 2
Guest Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Psalam said: Since that is directed at me (since I'm the one who hid the posts) let me reiterate the conditions I laid down yesterday. A post must be educational or entertaining. If it is rude and insulting it will be removed. If it has no value to the readers of this Thread it will be removed. If the author of such posts makes a habit of violating those rules then they will have the same punishments applied as other Rule breakers. For reference, here are the first 2 Rules of LoversLab: Hide contents The biggest and most important thing of this community is that the modders come first. They are the ones who make this community worth coming to, they are the ones enabling you to even play these mods. Meaning if you don't like the way a mod is going, don't be a jerk about it, they can take the mod in whatever direction they want. Don't like it? Then make your own release and put the work in yourself. Find a bug or issue that needs to be fixed? Don't be a jerk about it and raise your concerns and feedback in a constructive manner. Don't be a jerk. Seriously, does this really need to be said? Please don't make me enforce them. I prefer it when the Membership can behave like mature adults and I can play Skyrim rather than spending hours monitoring LL conversations. Thanks for quoting the rules. None of them were violated, no reasonable observer could possibly claim that they were, but you removed the post anyways. You know why, and I know why, so why pretend? If this is what you're going to do, at least have the dignity and the self-respect to own it and be forthright about it. But I have zero interest in listening to internet hall monitors insist that vague and ill defined requirements like "educational" weren't satisfied whenever a particular post doesn't suit their whims, so if that's your reply, just skip to the part where you start power tripping and banning all dissent and disagreement, and spare me the flimsy excuses.
Psalam Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, no13 said: Thanks for quoting the rules. None of them were violated, no reasonable observer could possibly claim that they were, but you removed the post anyways. You know why, and I know why, so why pretend? If this is what you're going to do, at least have the dignity and the self-respect to own it and be forthright about it. But I have zero interest in listening to internet hall monitors insist that vague and ill defined requirements like "educational" weren't satisfied whenever a particular post doesn't suit their whims, so if that's your reply, just skip to the part where you start power tripping and banning all dissent and disagreement, and spare me the flimsy excuses. Okay, if you insist.
donttouchmethere Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, no13 said: You know why, and I know why, so why pretend? Spoiler
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