OSex+ The Greatest Virtual Sex Ever

[CEO 0S]

8 minutes ago, Illana said:

 

You can explain how telling consoleutil to equip a non-existent item with the formid hardcoded is good coding? This should be interesting.

 

And I'm not sure how you came to this 10,000,000 number unless you have metrics for mods outside of the nexus. Even adding up all of your mods download numbers doesn't even come close.

 

 

It seems a bit silly to fixate on a single line of code. If it really is this important to you I might look it over with you if you post me more of the script so I can see the context. Best I can say right now is that since it has mod ID in it I was most likely using it for testing one of the systems. It wouldn't serve much purpose for the end user as is.

Edited November 20, 2021 by CEO 0S

[Illana]

23 minutes ago, CEO 0S said:

 

It seems a bit silly to fixate on a single line of code. If it really is this important to you I might look it over with you if you post me more of the script so I can see the context. Best I can say right now is that since it has mod ID in it I was most likely using it for testing one of the systems. It wouldn't serve much purpose for the end user as is.

now THAT would make sense.

 

You were testing frostfall and that was the item and formid used in testing.

 

Why not just say that instead of making stuff up ?

[CEO 0S]

12 minutes ago, Illana said:

now THAT would make sense.

 

You were testing frostfall and that was the item and formid used in testing.

 

Why not just say that instead of making stuff up ?

 

I wasn't making stuff up, I have no idea where a papyrus line might be in my code from 6 years ago. Glad we worked this out at least!

Edited November 20, 2021 by CEO 0S

[Illana]

6 minutes ago, CEO 0S said:

 

I wasn't making stuff up, I have no idea where a papyrus line might be in my code from 6 years ago. Glad we worked this out at least!

bruh its from the code you specifically wrote and added a couple of days ago. The oOmni.pex that had the piracy message.

 

if you cant even remember stuff you've done a few days ago

 

.............

[CEO 0S]

13 minutes ago, Illana said:

bruh its from the code you specifically wrote and added a couple of days ago. The oOmni.pex that had the piracy message.

 

if you cant even remember stuff you've done a few days ago

 

.............

 

I didn't write oOmni.pex yesterday, i changed a few event names in it. oOmni.pex has been in OSA for 6 years. I'm sorry but I feel like you are rude and condescending with how little you know and how much you assume.

Edited November 20, 2021 by CEO 0S

[silvert]

All I would like to say in light of all the hate that has been going around, is thank you to CEO for having made your mod. I installed it way back when it first came out and instantly fell in love with it. It was easy for me to use, and many of the animations were and still are, among my favorites. I still have it along with sexlab installed on every playthrough. I have tried out virtually every other sex mod there is, including Ostim, and uninstalled all of them. Thank you for having come back to work on Osex some more and I look forward to what you may do in the future. Hopefully you don't take all this criticism personally and leave again. You have every right to do whatever you want with your mod.

[CEO 0S]

6 minutes ago, silvert said:

All I would like to say in light of all the hate that has been going around, is thank you to CEO for having made your mod. I installed it way back when it first came out and instantly fell in love with it. It was easy for me to use, and many of the animations were and still are, among my favorites. I still have it along with sexlab installed on every playthrough. I have tried out virtually every other sex mod there is, including Ostim, and uninstalled all of them. Thank you for having come back to work on Osex some more and I look forward to what you may do in the future. Hopefully you don't take all this criticism personally and leave again. You have every right to do whatever you want with your mod.

 

The community is incredibly dissapointing and it always has been, there are a few shining starts that have stood out on this journey, and i don't mean to paint with a broad stroke. The amount of insult and rage I got over the years for making something for free has been ridiculous, it's balanced with really rewarding support as well, like this. So thank you very much I got this under control but none the less with all the shit I've had to deal with today and all the insults, having some kind words means a lot!

[ninjagaidenguy]

Protecting your work does not include putting malware into it, claiming all the animations were personally done by you and then today talking down your mod due to a "Copywrite claim" from a third party that according your take down message did a lot of the animation for the mod.
 

This is incredibly condescending to the community and to the users of the mod and I will never be using or downloading anything of yours again.

[CEO 0S]

9 minutes ago, ninjagaidenguy said:

Protecting your work does not include putting malware into it, claiming all the animations were personally done by you and then today talking down your mod due to a "Copywrite claim" from a third party that according your take down message did a lot of the animation for the mod.
 

This is incredibly condescending to the community and to the users of the mod and I will never be using or downloading anything of yours again.

 

Hey can you tell me what it does include?

[Illana]

1 hour ago, CEO 0S said:

 

I didn't write oOmni.pex yesterday, i changed a few event names in it. oOmni.pex has been in OSA for 6 years. I'm sorry but I feel like you are rude and condescending with how little you know and how much you assume.

 

That's my bad then. I was wrong about this part.

 

But it also seems you were quite good with putting comments in your scripts prior to the latest update. Why did that change?

Edited November 20, 2021 by Illana

[CEO 0S]

28 minutes ago, Illana said:

 

That's my bad then. I was wrong about this part.

 

But it also seems you were quite good with putting comments in your scripts prior to the latest update. Why did that change?

 

That's ok man, we are all human. My bad for being a little harsh.

[Robo00]

Hi CEO,

 

I wanted to ask you about the future of OSex development. First of all I'm looking forward for the new updates, new features, new animations are always welcome.

 

Being said that I have to admit I'm a user who tried both OSex and OStim but didn't really kept using either of these mods. You might ask why:

 

I didn't kept using OSex because it is just an animation mod. The animation, the interface and the usage is top tier professional, but it adds nothing on the gameplay or immersion side of the game. It's something you might launch when there is nothing better to do in the game, go through the animations, make some screenshots or whatever, but that's all. It's a minigame but it has no effect on the world.

 

On the other side OStim started to add those missing gameplay, immersion elements. For example I really liked those which extended upon the spouse mechanics (both on the player-spouse, both on NPC-NPC aspects) or the arousal system. But I always felt that the development is really going one directional, the direction the author was imagining his game. So after a module was realeased on nexus, that module rarely got any feature or configuration updates, maybe only bugfixes. I also didn't like the paywall thing, but at least he released the mods after a month. So because I never really felt OStim was a complete mod, I didn't use it. But it was going somewhere, new stuff was constantly being added. So it became something many people considered could be a replacement of SexLab in their games. Speaking of SexLab, my main problem with it is it's slowness. But I really like that there is a huge freedom of choice from the many addons.

 

My question is, are you considering building in gameplay elements to the new OSex mod, or is it something you wish other modders would create based on the new OSA APIs (and not on the OStim APIs)? Will you give support for these modders if they find that the OSA API is lacking in someway?

 

If your answer to this later is yes, then these are really good news! Because we are at the birth of a new framework, something which could maybe be better than OStim was.

 

If the answer to these questions are both no, then why don't you just let the OStim modders build upon your latest works? I'm sure you could just work completely independently on OSA/OSex the way you like it, pretending OStim doesn't even exists, and the OStim modders could keep patching their works for these newer versions. And if the paywall thing is what bothers you (it would bother me, too) then why don't you just say that you only allow their work to exist if they stop this behavior? I think this would be a win-win solution.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Robo00

[CEO 0S]

27 minutes ago, Robo00 said:

Hi CEO,

 

I wanted to ask you about the future of OSex development. First of all I'm looking forward for the new updates, new features, new animations are always welcome.

 

Being said that I have to admit I'm a user who tried both OSex and OStim but didn't really kept using either of these mods. You might ask why:

 

I didn't kept using OSex because it is just an animation mod. The animation, the interface and the usage is top tier professional, but it adds nothing on the gameplay or immersion side of the game. It's something you might launch when there is nothing better to do in the game, go through the animations, make some screenshots or whatever, but that's all. It's a minigame but it has no effect on the world.

 

On the other side OStim started to add those missing gameplay, immersion elements. For example I really liked those which extended upon the spouse mechanics (both on the player-spouse, both on NPC-NPC aspects) or the arousal system. But I always felt that the development is really going one directional, the direction the author was imagining his game. So after a module was realeased on nexus, that module rarely got any feature or configuration updates, maybe only bugfixes. I also didn't like the paywall thing, but at least he released the mods after a month. So because I never really felt OStim was a complete mod, I didn't use it. But it was going somewhere, new stuff was constantly being added. So it became something many people considered could be a replacement of SexLab in their games. Speaking of SexLab, my main problem with it is it's slowness. But I really like that there is a huge freedom of choice from the many addons.

 

My question is, are you considering building in gameplay elements to the new OSex mod, or is it something you wish other modders would create based on the new OSA APIs (and not on the OStim APIs)? Will you give support for these modders if they find that the OSA API is lacking in someway?

 

If your answer to this later is yes, then these are really good news! Because we are at the birth of a new framework, something which could maybe be better than OStim was.

 

If the answer to these questions are both no, then why don't you just let the OStim modders build upon your latest works? I'm sure you could just work completely independently on OSA/OSex the way you like it, pretending OStim doesn't even exists, and the OStim modders could keep patching their works for these newer versions. And if the paywall thing is what bothers you (it would bother me, too) then why don't you just say that you only allow their work to exist if they stop this behavior? I think this would be a win-win solution.

 

 

I really just want to sit down make a cool animation, plug it into a zip file that goes into my mod, post it somewhere, have the few members of my community say Thanks Ceo! Then engage and chat with me for a bit. That's what I've always wanted.  Tonight i sat down with my community to relax after a tough, day, i did a few animations with them, some awesome hugging and kissing scenes. However, I can't release them because if i do they will be stolen. They will be monetized to someone else, and this project was never for money. If I say they can't be shared they will be posted to discords to make others profit. It's gross what has happened to the modding community. This is not fair to me, i deserve to be able to do work for fun that I can share with people and take credit just like I always have. I'll fight although there's an awful lot of forces out there strong arming me to back down and walk away, and very few allies.

 

There was a time when I wanted a framework of my own, and what I did was animate for months, illustrate for months, code for years. If someone wants a framework they should make it, like I did. If their framework can't exist without having every mod I ever made included to make it function, of which only 1 part of 1 of those mods actually has open permissions then it's not really their framework at all is it?

 

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by CEO 0S

[Robo00]

Thanks Ceo for your incredible work!

[CEO 0S]

7 minutes ago, Robo00 said:

Thanks Ceo for your incredible work!

 

Thanks Robo, appreciate the support, this is my Ceo identities darkest hour so love is much needed tonight for my mental, (Maybe the next few days too).

Edited November 20, 2021 by CEO 0S

[MayDayCray]

I'm really happy that you're back CEO and I fully support your future endeavors ❤️

[Akzyra]

Nexus Archive Links pre-drama: OSA v2.023-SE , OSex v2.02SE-Alpha

 

Well, you granted permission before leaving... from what I can gather you had no problems with OStim a month ago.

I understand you want to flesh out OSA usage yourself now that you are back, but changing permissions for OSA does not affect anything that was done before that.

PLus OSA is a dependency, if people wanted to harm you they would have stolen code and incorporated it directly.

 

If you had just released a clear statement, there would not be drama.

You could have stopped OStim development by asking nicely first, then taking action if they don't follow.

 

But no, you put in a OStim check and accused user of using mods that "pirated" content, when OStim worked around limitations of an (at that time) abandoned framework.

And you prevented the users from playing the game completely, not just blocking OStim!

 

And there still seems to be a check for OStim in the latest version on Nexus. Use the old files!

Edit: popup has been removed, but OSA still disables itself and thus OStim.

The included uncompiled scripts are missing this code...

if Quest.GetQuest((game.GetModByName("OStim.esp") != 255 || "OSexIntegrationMainQuest" as Bool) as String) as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimSubthreads") as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimUpdateQuest") as Bool
	ui.Invoke("HUD Menu", "_root.WidgetContainer." + glyph as String + ".widget.loveconquersall")
	miscutil.printconsole("O:66412389142")
else
	miscutil.printconsole("O:1248")
endIf

 

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by Akzyra
added links, added info about OStim check

[reinyn]

So, where are the downloads? Why are they hidden? Is there a good reason for this? Honestly people want to use these mods but if you set them to hidden how can they?

 

With high regards,

 

Reinyn

[CEO 0S]

18 minutes ago, reinyn said:

So, where are the downloads? Why are they hidden? Is there a good reason for this? Honestly people want to use these mods but if you set them to hidden how can they?

 

With high regards,

 

Reinyn

 

I'm working to resolve an issue with a co-creator of the animations, please give me time to resolve it, I might be able to resolve this without any changes which would be wonderful.

[reinyn]

1 hour ago, CEO 0S said:

 

I'm working to resolve an issue with a co-creator of the animations, please give me time to resolve it, I might be able to resolve this without any changes which would be wonderful.

Alright, thanks for answering my question. I do have another one for you and i hope you can answer this one too. Will the new version also be compatible with 0stim and other add -ons or will there be issues between these 2 mods? I am only asking because i am genuinely interested in the future of both mods.

 

With high regards,

 

Reinyn

[Jindale]

Just tagging along the thread so I see notifications about it. I really, really can't wait for the OSex+ and OSA+, gonna be GLORIOUS.

[CEO 0S]

On 11/19/2021 at 2:52 PM, WildAdmiral said:

 

And how many scripts more are you gonna add to break the game on purpose, just because someone has installed mod that you don't like? 

 

On 11/20/2021 at 2:04 AM, ninjagaidenguy said:

Protecting your work does not include putting malware into it, claiming all the animations were personally done by you and then today talking down your mod due to a "Copywrite claim" from a third party that according your take down message did a lot of the animation for the mod.
 

This is incredibly condescending to the community and to the users of the mod and I will never be using or downloading anything of yours again.

 

 

 

I made a few new animations you guys might like to see, can you guys please ask the people on OStim discord if I can have permission to put these in my mod, I really worked hard on them?

 

 

 

 

I did this one also, what do you thinkl?

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and if you want to see it animated it's here:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by CEO 0S

[CEO 0S]

3 hours ago, Akzyra said:

Well, you granted permission before leaving... from what I can gather you had no problems with OStim a month ago.

I understand you want to flesh out OSA usage yourself now that you are back, but changing permissions for OSA does not affect anything that was done before that.

PLus OSA is a dependency, if people wanted to harm you they would have stolen code and incorporated it directly.

 

If you had just released a clear statement, there would not be drama.

You could have stopped OStim development by asking nicely first, then taking action if they don't follow.

 

But no, you put in a OStim check and accused user of using mods that "pirated" content, when OStim worked around limitations of an (at that time) abandoned framework.

And you prevented the users from playing the game completely, not just blocking OStim!

 

And there still seems to be a check for OStim in the latest version on Nexus. I don't know how it affect the users in-game, but it does something:

The included uncompiled scripts are missing this code...

if Quest.GetQuest((game.GetModByName("OStim.esp") != 255 || "OSexIntegrationMainQuest" as Bool) as String) as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimSubthreads") as Bool || Quest.GetQuest("OStimUpdateQuest") as Bool
	ui.Invoke("HUD Menu", "_root.WidgetContainer." + glyph as String + ".widget.loveconquersall")
	miscutil.printconsole("O:66412389142")
else
	miscutil.printconsole("O:1248")
endIf

 

 

 

 

I just made a post of some new animations you might be interested in.

[CEO 0S]

23 minutes ago, Jindale said:

Just tagging along the thread so I see notifications about it. I really, really can't wait for the OSex+ and OSA+, gonna be GLORIOUS.

 

Thanks so much Jindale for the kind words ❤️

[CEO 0S]

Also while you guys are asking for permission if I can post these can you also check if it's ok from this angle? I really hope i can put these into my mod.

 

 

I'm actually going to add a spank to this scene also, just 1 cheek but it will be pretty cool!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by CEO 0S