Jay1646 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 So my version doesn't cover hits or killmoves (yet, stay tuned for the coming updates) but I've got a mod that (currently, future updates are kind of explained in the support topic) does basic (soon to be advanced) combat arousal. Over here... Feel free to request anything it's missing as the 3.0 update (Simple Sadism and Masochism) moves into the final stages of development.
Vanus Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Using Werewolves got me thinking, why the **** can't a Vampire Lord do this? - The animations, at least for a male are already present in Hentai Creatures and I would venture to guess Molag Bal would approve.
Catnapper2 Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 There are many other request pages out there and I was wondering could you make this one? There are many ideas that people have posted for this request that could be implemented. With all of the ideas, this mod can take a long time to make. Just to warn you ahead of time. Thank you for offering to create mods. We greatly appreciate it. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42584-hentai-breeding-request/page-1
RADEON360 Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Shall I make another request? I want the greybeards to fuck the dragonborn (if she's female) when gift you their wisdom of the shouts like unrelenting force and whirwind sprint.
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Thanks I tried From the Deeps but it was too lovecraftian for my taste. I generally prefer a bit of humour. I have also tried Sexlab Solutions Sexlab Romance and SLEN, but found them rather limited in scope. Because I play a female Dragonborn I want to get away from the rape/slavery scenario, but then I have trouble finding a mod with good dialogue. 3 pick up lines just isn't enough. And really, when you think about it, the chastity belt could just as easily be a dildo or vibrator harness so the premise that it's forced on the player to torture her by preventing sex is not working for me. >Too Lovecraftian As a fan of Lovecraft let me tell you, nothing can be too Lovecraftian. Now, some things can overshoot, but then they're more into the bounds of surreal horror than Lovecraftian. IMHO Things in the dark undershoots, not necessarily by any fault of Delzarons (besides maybe buggy scripts, but I also haven't played FtD since a build from a year or so ago, so those might all be fixed by now) because Skyrim doesn't have an... accessible way to do something Lovecraftian, like unknowable eldritch horrors, or basically any other trademark of Lovecraftian work. Honestly though, the closest you're gonna get is Amorous Adventures. Other people don't even request something liek what you're looking for often enough for it to be a noticeable trend in the request forum (which I've also started following half-heartedly (all the requests for outfit conversions are breaking the hole where my heart would be) for ideas). When you crawl the request forum for ideas, does that mean you're not too busy? I didn't post much here because i thought you're already drowned in work, but i have a couple of ideas which you might like. Although... Delzaron is currently quite desperate with the Aylum part of his Novel mod and asking for help. And since most ideas there are from me anyways, i'd really like to see that in my game. It's rather Alice in Wonderland than Lovecraft, though. Some of my ideas: -short and "simple": both player and NPCs can slap butts they like. SirNibbler made an (paired) animation and offered to improve it. I'm not sure if it's possible the way i'd like to have it most, but other ways would be fine, too: I thought about something like an attack, via hotkey or if you have a special butt-slap device equipped, but it doesn't trigger hostility. I think that way it would be most fluently, would need another animation and i'm not sure if hostility can be avoided. If it's not possible, a paired animation would be nice too. Maybe with some short quests/consequences, like a walk of shame where the whole town slaps your butt if you slap too often/the wrong person. Here i posted it some while ago and Nibbler added a first animation: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65553-idea-slap-that-butt/ - role play character development accoding to your actions, with sexual fame framework as base. SLSF already collects and stores a lot of data, ideally it would block/enforce comments from Apropos (for example if you're raped and considered pure by SLSF, you will not get a message that you enjoy it in any ways). If that's not possible i'd write some comments myself, with the risk that Apropos says the opposite. I also have some ideas for quest mods, but i have to check if vinfamy adds some of those into his mod. Mostly player slavery. Maybe they could be connected to the previous one, so depending on your experiences you'll have additional or limited dialogue options. SLSF already provides those options, but there is no mod using it which is kind of sad, imho.
Feliks Posted May 26, 2017 Author Posted May 26, 2017 Helo Feliks, this is not a very important mod idea and it is useful only those who use TERA Armor mod. Original mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25846/? My only problem with this mod is that the player receives ALL armor recipes at once, on level 1. This is not ideal for several reasons: - the player has access to very high level armor very early - the crafting menu id f-d up with the dozens of recipes So I'd like an addon for this mod, which: 1) (probably) Less work version Add 3 crafting books to the game for Light, Heavy and Cloth TERA armor. These should work like the books for the Book of UUNP or the Celes Nightingale armor mods - you can only craft the armors if the book is in your inventory. This way the craftng menu could be more accessible. 2) Too much work version Add a Book for each armor set. Rules are the same as above - you can craft it only if you have the book in your inventory. The books should be either on static locations in the world (multiple copies each, for example you can find the Bladedancer book in Bleak Falls Barrow, in Orotheim and in the Bard's College) or added to the loot tables. There is an addon already which puts the TERA armors into leveled lists. Thanks, M Recipe clutter is my single biggest issue at this point thanks to mods. I would guess that's not too hard, haven't really touched crafting recipes in.... holy shit like 2 years. Adding this to the list of ittle things to knockout at somepoint. Using Werewolves got me thinking, why the **** can't a Vampire Lord do this? - The animations, at least for a male are already present in Hentai Creatures and I would venture to guess Molag Bal would approve. That's a good question. I probably won't be doing this any time soon, but maybe whoever made werewolves could. There are many other request pages out there and I was wondering could you make this one? There are many ideas that people have posted for this request that could be implemented. With all of the ideas, this mod can take a long time to make. Just to warn you ahead of time. Thank you for offering to create mods. We greatly appreciate it. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42584-hentai-breeding-request/page-1 Really? I had no idea people wanted a breeder mod for Skyrim. It's never been requested before. Shall I make another request? I want the greybeards to fuck the dragonborn (if she's female) when gift you their wisdom of the shouts like unrelenting force and whirwind sprint. TBH I've always found the graybeards wildly unattractive. But uh, I'll add this to the list of minor things to do in my down time, probably (no idea how the gifting you knowledge part works in the game to start from) wont be too difficult. When you crawl the request forum for ideas, does that mean you're not too busy? I didn't post much here because i thought you're already drowned in work, but i have a couple of ideas which you might like. :)snip Although... Delzaron is currently quite desperate with the Aylum part of his Novel mod and asking for help. And since most ideas there are from me anyways, i'd really like to see that in my game. It's rather Alice in Wonderland than Lovecraft, though. Some of my ideas: -short and "simple": both player and NPCs can slap butts they like. SirNibbler made an (paired) animation and offered to improve it. I'm not sure if it's possible the way i'd like to have it most, but other ways would be fine, too: I thought about something like an attack, via hotkey or if you have a special butt-slap device equipped, but it doesn't trigger hostility. I think that way it would be most fluently, would need another animation and i'm not sure if hostility can be avoided. If it's not possible, a paired animation would be nice too. Maybe with some short quests/consequences, like a walk of shame where the whole town slaps your butt if you slap too often/the wrong person. Here i posted it some while ago and Nibbler added a first animation: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65553-idea-slap-that-butt/ - role play character development accoding to your actions, with sexual fame framework as base. SLSF already collects and stores a lot of data, ideally it would block/enforce comments from Apropos (for example if you're raped and considered pure by SLSF, you will not get a message that you enjoy it in any ways). If that's not possible i'd write some comments myself, with the risk that Apropos says the opposite. I also have some ideas for quest mods, but i have to check if vinfamy adds some of those into his mod. Mostly player slavery. Maybe they could be connected to the previous one, so depending on your experiences you'll have additional or limited dialogue options. SLSF already provides those options, but there is no mod using it which is kind of sad, imho. I'm not sure too busy is a thing I could be. Well, actually I'm probably looking it in the rear view mirror but... Liking the slapping idea, and Nibbles animation looks great, if I can get these larger things I need to focus on first out of the way I'm pretty certain I could do something with those if posts the animations. That's a little ways down the road, I'll keep the thread bookmarked till I'm ready/ hit you up. So the thing about SLSF that I think lead to it not being used a whole lot, is it almost exclusively tracks what people saw/heard about. It doesn't really track what the players been up to, just what people expect. Now, Attributes seemed to be heading to a more helpful state for that kind of thing, but seems abandoned (arguably good for me as I've got my own take on the idea in development purgatory right now, waiting at like... 4th in line on bigger projects). Apropos is kind of a mess on the source code side of things, and the text there unfortunately isnt categorized in a way to make that request... easy, if doable at all. I'm always down for quest ideas, hell, if you can come up with a handful of smaller ones I can probably get to them kinda soon. Ideally I want to make a few more large updates on the development build of S4S to get most/all the initial release content made/working, and then some work on another project. Then I'm gonna take a quick break for a bit and rip out as many small mods as I can in some kind of ridiculous sprint. So, if you've got ideas stewing, write them down or post them here, because the sprint is rapidly pproaching.
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Helo Feliks, this is not a very important mod idea and it is useful only those who use TERA Armor mod. Original mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25846/? My only problem with this mod is that the player receives ALL armor recipes at once, on level 1. This is not ideal for several reasons: - the player has access to very high level armor very early - the crafting menu id f-d up with the dozens of recipes So I'd like an addon for this mod, which: 1) (probably) Less work version Add 3 crafting books to the game for Light, Heavy and Cloth TERA armor. These should work like the books for the Book of UUNP or the Celes Nightingale armor mods - you can only craft the armors if the book is in your inventory. This way the craftng menu could be more accessible. 2) Too much work version Add a Book for each armor set. Rules are the same as above - you can craft it only if you have the book in your inventory. The books should be either on static locations in the world (multiple copies each, for example you can find the Bladedancer book in Bleak Falls Barrow, in Orotheim and in the Bard's College) or added to the loot tables. There is an addon already which puts the TERA armors into leveled lists. Thanks, M Recipe clutter is my single biggest issue at this point thanks to mods. I would guess that's not too hard, haven't really touched crafting recipes in.... holy shit like 2 years. Adding this to the list of ittle things to knockout at somepoint. Using Werewolves got me thinking, why the **** can't a Vampire Lord do this? - The animations, at least for a male are already present in Hentai Creatures and I would venture to guess Molag Bal would approve. That's a good question. I probably won't be doing this any time soon, but maybe whoever made werewolves could. There are many other request pages out there and I was wondering could you make this one? There are many ideas that people have posted for this request that could be implemented. With all of the ideas, this mod can take a long time to make. Just to warn you ahead of time. Thank you for offering to create mods. We greatly appreciate it. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42584-hentai-breeding-request/page-1 Really? I had no idea people wanted a breeder mod for Skyrim. It's never been requested before. Shall I make another request? I want the greybeards to fuck the dragonborn (if she's female) when gift you their wisdom of the shouts like unrelenting force and whirwind sprint. TBH I've always found the graybeards wildly unattractive. But uh, I'll add this to the list of minor things to do in my down time, probably (no idea how the gifting you knowledge part works in the game to start from) wont be too difficult. When you crawl the request forum for ideas, does that mean you're not too busy? I didn't post much here because i thought you're already drowned in work, but i have a couple of ideas which you might like. :)snip Although... Delzaron is currently quite desperate with the Aylum part of his Novel mod and asking for help. And since most ideas there are from me anyways, i'd really like to see that in my game. It's rather Alice in Wonderland than Lovecraft, though. Some of my ideas: -short and "simple": both player and NPCs can slap butts they like. SirNibbler made an (paired) animation and offered to improve it. I'm not sure if it's possible the way i'd like to have it most, but other ways would be fine, too: I thought about something like an attack, via hotkey or if you have a special butt-slap device equipped, but it doesn't trigger hostility. I think that way it would be most fluently, would need another animation and i'm not sure if hostility can be avoided. If it's not possible, a paired animation would be nice too. Maybe with some short quests/consequences, like a walk of shame where the whole town slaps your butt if you slap too often/the wrong person. Here i posted it some while ago and Nibbler added a first animation: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65553-idea-slap-that-butt/ - role play character development accoding to your actions, with sexual fame framework as base. SLSF already collects and stores a lot of data, ideally it would block/enforce comments from Apropos (for example if you're raped and considered pure by SLSF, you will not get a message that you enjoy it in any ways). If that's not possible i'd write some comments myself, with the risk that Apropos says the opposite. I also have some ideas for quest mods, but i have to check if vinfamy adds some of those into his mod. Mostly player slavery. Maybe they could be connected to the previous one, so depending on your experiences you'll have additional or limited dialogue options. SLSF already provides those options, but there is no mod using it which is kind of sad, imho. I'm not sure too busy is a thing I could be. Well, actually I'm probably looking it in the rear view mirror but... Liking the slapping idea, and Nibbles animation looks great, if I can get these larger things I need to focus on first out of the way I'm pretty certain I could do something with those if posts the animations. That's a little ways down the road, I'll keep the thread bookmarked till I'm ready/ hit you up. So the thing about SLSF that I think lead to it not being used a whole lot, is it almost exclusively tracks what people saw/heard about. It doesn't really track what the players been up to, just what people expect. Now, Attributes seemed to be heading to a more helpful state for that kind of thing, but seems abandoned (arguably good for me as I've got my own take on the idea in development purgatory right now, waiting at like... 4th in line on bigger projects). Apropos is kind of a mess on the source code side of things, and the text there unfortunately isnt categorized in a way to make that request... easy, if doable at all. I'm always down for quest ideas, hell, if you can come up with a handful of smaller ones I can probably get to them kinda soon. Ideally I want to make a few more large updates on the development build of S4S to get most/all the initial release content made/working, and then some work on another project. Then I'm gonna take a quick break for a bit and rip out as many small mods as I can in some kind of ridiculous sprint. So, if you've got ideas stewing, write them down or post them here, because the sprint is rapidly pproaching. Glad you like the slapping. I admit, it's been a while since i had SLSF installed, it is quite customizable and the idea that for example tattoos don't count if they aren't visible makes a lot of sense to me (and other mods like player exhibitionist + rape tattoos more... intresting ). In some scenarios like beeing a beastess, living in the wilds with your pack it might be less useful, though. Not sure if that can be changed. One reason that i don't have it installed currently is that i'm using it's abandoned predecessor More Devious Quests. It has 3 main features and i think, or hope, one could maybe be used as a kind of framework as well as independent mod: give the player simple tasks. The tasks included aren't always sex related, but i think it would be great to have these for a kind of slave live. Imho it would improve SD+ for example a lot. Versh gave permission to continue it or rip it apart and use parts of it and he is still around in case you have questions or need the source or anything. Doing tasks for devious keys might be nice as well. Medi-time consuming if you accept anything, more if you don't want to do the humilating things. The next feature, Slut madness, is fun but quite script heavy and probably there is no way around that. Not sure about the follower part, i almost never play with followers. Might be worth a look if you can do something intresting with it, though. If you're working on your own fame framework i guess i can figure out some small quests with consequences according to your actions, i'd need to see some features and possibilities as inspiration. Most quests i have in mind are already suggested to vinfamys Dovahkiin infamy or other mods, i don't think they'll be used all but i'm not sure what will be left behind. I'll figure out and need to do some polishing, some are rather raw. Includes a breeder quest. Couldn't figure out if you dislike it or if those requests weren't concrete enough to make something, at least i didn't see an answer. *edit: Delzarons Asylum could be one thing. In his thread he sounds so desperate, i'm afraid he'll rather delete what he's done so far because he can't finish it. If you don't want to cooperate with him, maybe you could take it over. Wouldn't be that short, though. *edit2: suggested something similiar actually to Slaverun reloaded, but with some changes it might be a nice little mod on it's own: milking slave (might or might not be connected to a breeder quest) Ideally it would support both MME and SGO, but if only one is possible that's fine too. Not sure what i prefer, usually SGO for gameplay, but MME for the slave experience. Story depends a bit if it should rather be considered an addition for other mods or more independent, but the raw picture: - you are overwhelmed - lactation is enforced (lactaid and/or pregnancy) - deliver milk or be punished Here is my original suggestion, on it's own it's a bit different from the slaverun version of course. But i could also imagine that might work well with stuff like the devious framework, SD+ and such. Maybe an additional task if you can do something with more devious quests. For my taste it's not sadistic enough. At least, not all parts. Imho the milk slave part could need some spice, just running around and offer some milk doesn't feel slave like for me. For example: -Actually you'll get fucked often enough to keep you pregnant, but one or two comments about that would be nice. Something like "We keep you well stuffed, cow. There won't be any time you're not pregnant producing milk." * -Something like a minimum requirement how much milk you have to deliver per week or something. Maybe with a punishment if you fail, beeing locked in a milking machine once a day for the next week or something. -Although you're fucked often anyways, failing in giving enough milk might lead your slavers to the thought that you need some more. Get gangbanged by some orcs + fed with lactid. -Maybe even some kind of "bad end** milking slave", beeing locked in milking machines without hands/legs (amputator framework). -Don't make it optional to be milked, enforce it. That my slave can offer or deny it via dialogue seems to be wrong. * No native speaker, i think there is at least one mistake but i can't say what's wrong exactly. ** bad end: i don't want a final kill, just a way out of the slavery/mod. For example there could be some background story that they don't give you any food anymore, you pass out, they sell your "corpse" to some giants or kennels or something and you wake up when your belly is filled again.
Delzaron Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Thanks I tried From the Deeps but it was too lovecraftian for my taste. I generally prefer a bit of humour. I have also tried Sexlab Solutions Sexlab Romance and SLEN, but found them rather limited in scope. Because I play a female Dragonborn I want to get away from the rape/slavery scenario, but then I have trouble finding a mod with good dialogue. 3 pick up lines just isn't enough. And really, when you think about it, the chastity belt could just as easily be a dildo or vibrator harness so the premise that it's forced on the player to torture her by preventing sex is not working for me. Too lovecraftian... Thanks I tried From the Deeps but it was too lovecraftian for my taste. I generally prefer a bit of humour. I have also tried Sexlab Solutions Sexlab Romance and SLEN, but found them rather limited in scope. Because I play a female Dragonborn I want to get away from the rape/slavery scenario, but then I have trouble finding a mod with good dialogue. 3 pick up lines just isn't enough. And really, when you think about it, the chastity belt could just as easily be a dildo or vibrator harness so the premise that it's forced on the player to torture her by preventing sex is not working for me. >Too Lovecraftian As a fan of Lovecraft let me tell you, nothing can be too Lovecraftian. Now, some things can overshoot, but then they're more into the bounds of surreal horror than Lovecraftian. IMHO Things in the dark undershoots, not necessarily by any fault of Delzarons (besides maybe buggy scripts, but I also haven't played FtD since a build from a year or so ago, so those might all be fixed by now) because Skyrim doesn't have an... accessible way to do something Lovecraftian, like unknowable eldritch horrors, or basically any other trademark of Lovecraftian work. Honestly though, the closest you're gonna get is Amorous Adventures. Other people don't even request something liek what you're looking for often enough for it to be a noticeable trend in the request forum (which I've also started following half-heartedly (all the requests for outfit conversions are breaking the hole where my heart would be) for ideas). When you crawl the request forum for ideas, does that mean you're not too busy? I didn't post much here because i thought you're already drowned in work, but i have a couple of ideas which you might like. Although... Delzaron is currently quite desperate with the Aylum part of his Novel mod and asking for help. And since most ideas there are from me anyways, i'd really like to see that in my game. It's rather Alice in Wonderland than Lovecraft, though. Some of my ideas: -short and "simple": both player and NPCs can slap butts they like. SirNibbler made an (paired) animation and offered to improve it. I'm not sure if it's possible the way i'd like to have it most, but other ways would be fine, too: I thought about something like an attack, via hotkey or if you have a special butt-slap device equipped, but it doesn't trigger hostility. I think that way it would be most fluently, would need another animation and i'm not sure if hostility can be avoided. If it's not possible, a paired animation would be nice too. Maybe with some short quests/consequences, like a walk of shame where the whole town slaps your butt if you slap too often/the wrong person. Here i posted it some while ago and Nibbler added a first animation: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65553-idea-slap-that-butt/ - role play character development accoding to your actions, with sexual fame framework as base. SLSF already collects and stores a lot of data, ideally it would block/enforce comments from Apropos (for example if you're raped and considered pure by SLSF, you will not get a message that you enjoy it in any ways). If that's not possible i'd write some comments myself, with the risk that Apropos says the opposite. I also have some ideas for quest mods, but i have to check if vinfamy adds some of those into his mod. Mostly player slavery. Maybe they could be connected to the previous one, so depending on your experiences you'll have additional or limited dialogue options. SLSF already provides those options, but there is no mod using it which is kind of sad, imho. Helo Feliks, this is not a very important mod idea and it is useful only those who use TERA Armor mod. Original mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25846/? My only problem with this mod is that the player receives ALL armor recipes at once, on level 1. This is not ideal for several reasons: - the player has access to very high level armor very early - the crafting menu id f-d up with the dozens of recipes So I'd like an addon for this mod, which: 1) (probably) Less work version Add 3 crafting books to the game for Light, Heavy and Cloth TERA armor. These should work like the books for the Book of UUNP or the Celes Nightingale armor mods - you can only craft the armors if the book is in your inventory. This way the craftng menu could be more accessible. 2) Too much work version Add a Book for each armor set. Rules are the same as above - you can craft it only if you have the book in your inventory. The books should be either on static locations in the world (multiple copies each, for example you can find the Bladedancer book in Bleak Falls Barrow, in Orotheim and in the Bard's College) or added to the loot tables. There is an addon already which puts the TERA armors into leveled lists. Thanks, M Recipe clutter is my single biggest issue at this point thanks to mods. I would guess that's not too hard, haven't really touched crafting recipes in.... holy shit like 2 years. Adding this to the list of ittle things to knockout at somepoint. Using Werewolves got me thinking, why the **** can't a Vampire Lord do this? - The animations, at least for a male are already present in Hentai Creatures and I would venture to guess Molag Bal would approve. That's a good question. I probably won't be doing this any time soon, but maybe whoever made werewolves could. There are many other request pages out there and I was wondering could you make this one? There are many ideas that people have posted for this request that could be implemented. With all of the ideas, this mod can take a long time to make. Just to warn you ahead of time. Thank you for offering to create mods. We greatly appreciate it. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42584-hentai-breeding-request/page-1 Really? I had no idea people wanted a breeder mod for Skyrim. It's never been requested before. Shall I make another request? I want the greybeards to fuck the dragonborn (if she's female) when gift you their wisdom of the shouts like unrelenting force and whirwind sprint. TBH I've always found the graybeards wildly unattractive. But uh, I'll add this to the list of minor things to do in my down time, probably (no idea how the gifting you knowledge part works in the game to start from) wont be too difficult. When you crawl the request forum for ideas, does that mean you're not too busy? I didn't post much here because i thought you're already drowned in work, but i have a couple of ideas which you might like. :)snip Although... Delzaron is currently quite desperate with the Aylum part of his Novel mod and asking for help. And since most ideas there are from me anyways, i'd really like to see that in my game. It's rather Alice in Wonderland than Lovecraft, though. Some of my ideas: -short and "simple": both player and NPCs can slap butts they like. SirNibbler made an (paired) animation and offered to improve it. I'm not sure if it's possible the way i'd like to have it most, but other ways would be fine, too: I thought about something like an attack, via hotkey or if you have a special butt-slap device equipped, but it doesn't trigger hostility. I think that way it would be most fluently, would need another animation and i'm not sure if hostility can be avoided. If it's not possible, a paired animation would be nice too. Maybe with some short quests/consequences, like a walk of shame where the whole town slaps your butt if you slap too often/the wrong person. Here i posted it some while ago and Nibbler added a first animation: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65553-idea-slap-that-butt/ - role play character development accoding to your actions, with sexual fame framework as base. SLSF already collects and stores a lot of data, ideally it would block/enforce comments from Apropos (for example if you're raped and considered pure by SLSF, you will not get a message that you enjoy it in any ways). If that's not possible i'd write some comments myself, with the risk that Apropos says the opposite. I also have some ideas for quest mods, but i have to check if vinfamy adds some of those into his mod. Mostly player slavery. Maybe they could be connected to the previous one, so depending on your experiences you'll have additional or limited dialogue options. SLSF already provides those options, but there is no mod using it which is kind of sad, imho. I'm not sure too busy is a thing I could be. Well, actually I'm probably looking it in the rear view mirror but... Liking the slapping idea, and Nibbles animation looks great, if I can get these larger things I need to focus on first out of the way I'm pretty certain I could do something with those if posts the animations. That's a little ways down the road, I'll keep the thread bookmarked till I'm ready/ hit you up. So the thing about SLSF that I think lead to it not being used a whole lot, is it almost exclusively tracks what people saw/heard about. It doesn't really track what the players been up to, just what people expect. Now, Attributes seemed to be heading to a more helpful state for that kind of thing, but seems abandoned (arguably good for me as I've got my own take on the idea in development purgatory right now, waiting at like... 4th in line on bigger projects). Apropos is kind of a mess on the source code side of things, and the text there unfortunately isnt categorized in a way to make that request... easy, if doable at all. I'm always down for quest ideas, hell, if you can come up with a handful of smaller ones I can probably get to them kinda soon. Ideally I want to make a few more large updates on the development build of S4S to get most/all the initial release content made/working, and then some work on another project. Then I'm gonna take a quick break for a bit and rip out as many small mods as I can in some kind of ridiculous sprint. So, if you've got ideas stewing, write them down or post them here, because the sprint is rapidly pproaching. Glad you like the slapping. I admit, it's been a while since i had SLSF installed, it is quite customizable and the idea that for example tattoos don't count if they aren't visible makes a lot of sense to me (and other mods like player exhibitionist + rape tattoos more... intresting ). In some scenarios like beeing a beastess, living in the wilds with your pack it might be less useful, though. Not sure if that can be changed. One reason that i don't have it installed currently is that i'm using it's abandoned predecessor More Devious Quests. It has 3 main features and i think, or hope, one could maybe be used as a kind of framework as well as independent mod: give the player simple tasks. The tasks included aren't always sex related, but i think it would be great to have these for a kind of slave live. Imho it would improve SD+ for example a lot. Versh gave permission to continue it or rip it apart and use parts of it and he is still around in case you have questions or need the source or anything. Doing tasks for devious keys might be nice as well. Medi-time consuming if you accept anything, more if you don't want to do the humilating things. The next feature, Slut madness, is fun but quite script heavy and probably there is no way around that. Not sure about the follower part, i almost never play with followers. Might be worth a look if you can do something intresting with it, though. If you're working on your own fame framework i guess i can figure out some small quests with consequences according to your actions, i'd need to see some features and possibilities as inspiration. Most quests i have in mind are already suggested to vinfamys Dovahkiin infamy or other mods, i don't think they'll be used all but i'm not sure what will be left behind. I'll figure out and need to do some polishing, some are rather raw. Includes a breeder quest. Couldn't figure out if you dislike it or if those requests weren't concrete enough to make something, at least i didn't see an answer. *edit: Delzarons Asylum could be one thing. In his thread he sounds so desperate, i'm afraid he'll rather delete what he's done so far because he can't finish it. If you don't want to cooperate with him, maybe you could take it over. Wouldn't be that short, though. Yes, I'm quite desesperate with Asylum... The problem is it's builded as a repeatible stuff, or I'm good in linear quests. The asylum management quest is working, but playing it is no fun at all...
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Yes, I'm quite desesperate with Asylum... The problem is it's builded as a repeatible stuff, or I'm good in linear quests. The asylum management quest is working, but playing it is no fun at all... Do you mean it's no fun because the story is bad? I'm currently trying your mod, but - the Asylum didn't work, after following the nurse to the doctor, nothing happens. So if there is a story, i can't tell if it's fun or not, or how to improve it. - similar with the Skeever quest, i stand in my cell and can't do anything. - defending against the waves of Skeevers was too much for my computer, the first ~5 waves are fine but then the framerate drops down to.. 2 frames per minute or something. Not sure if there are too much coming or because of all the dead Skeevers around, maybe cleaning would help? Not sure if there is a console command to it. 'disable' might do it, but there are way too much to click at every single one.
Delzaron Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Yes, I'm quite desesperate with Asylum... The problem is it's builded as a repeatible stuff, or I'm good in linear quests. The asylum management quest is working, but playing it is no fun at all... Do you mean it's no fun because the story is bad? I'm currently trying your mod, but - the Asylum didn't work, after following the nurse to the doctor, nothing happens. So if there is a story, i can't tell if it's fun or not, or how to improve it. - similar with the Skeever quest, i stand in my cell and can't do anything. - defending against the waves of Skeevers was too much for my computer, the first ~5 waves are fine but then the framerate drops down to.. 2 frames per minute or something. Not sure if there are too much coming or because of all the dead Skeevers around, maybe cleaning would help? Not sure if there is a console command to it. 'disable' might do it, but there are way too much to click at every single one. Yes, the story is bad, the scene blocks, and, when you're a patient, it's not interesting at all... similar problme for skeever quest, except here I didn't already disigned the quest... I reduced the number of skeevers. Problem now is I can't upload a new version, LL forum have a problem.
Feliks Posted May 27, 2017 Author Posted May 27, 2017 Glad you like the slapping. I admit, it's been a while since i had SLSF installed, it is quite customizable and the idea that for example tattoos don't count if they aren't visible makes a lot of sense to me (and other mods like player exhibitionist + rape tattoos more... intresting ). In some scenarios like beeing a beastess, living in the wilds with your pack it might be less useful, though. Not sure if that can be changed. One reason that i don't have it installed currently is that i'm using it's abandoned predecessor More Devious Quests. It has 3 main features and i think, or hope, one could maybe be used as a kind of framework as well as independent mod: give the player simple tasks. The tasks included aren't always sex related, but i think it would be great to have these for a kind of slave live. Imho it would improve SD+ for example a lot. Versh gave permission to continue it or rip it apart and use parts of it and he is still around in case you have questions or need the source or anything. Doing tasks for devious keys might be nice as well. Medi-time consuming if you accept anything, more if you don't want to do the humilating things. The next feature, Slut madness, is fun but quite script heavy and probably there is no way around that. Not sure about the follower part, i almost never play with followers. Might be worth a look if you can do something intresting with it, though. If you're working on your own fame framework i guess i can figure out some small quests with consequences according to your actions, i'd need to see some features and possibilities as inspiration. Most quests i have in mind are already suggested to vinfamys Dovahkiin infamy or other mods, i don't think they'll be used all but i'm not sure what will be left behind. I'll figure out and need to do some polishing, some are rather raw. Includes a breeder quest. Couldn't figure out if you dislike it or if those requests weren't concrete enough to make something, at least i didn't see an answer. *edit: Delzarons Asylum could be one thing. In his thread he sounds so desperate, i'm afraid he'll rather delete what he's done so far because he can't finish it. If you don't want to cooperate with him, maybe you could take it over. Wouldn't be that short, though. *edit2: suggested something similiar actually to Slaverun reloaded, but with some changes it might be a nice little mod on it's own: milking slave (might or might not be connected to a breeder quest) Ideally it would support both MME and SGO, but if only one is possible that's fine too. Not sure what i prefer, usually SGO for gameplay, but MME for the slave experience. Story depends a bit if it should rather be considered an addition for other mods or more independent, but the raw picture: - you are overwhelmed - lactation is enforced (lactaid and/or pregnancy) - deliver milk or be punished Here is my original suggestion, on it's own it's a bit different from the slaverun version of course. But i could also imagine that might work well with stuff like the devious framework, SD+ and such. Maybe an additional task if you can do something with more devious quests. For my taste it's not sadistic enough. At least, not all parts. Imho the milk slave part could need some spice, just running around and offer some milk doesn't feel slave like for me. For example: -Actually you'll get fucked often enough to keep you pregnant, but one or two comments about that would be nice. Something like "We keep you well stuffed, cow. There won't be any time you're not pregnant producing milk." * -Something like a minimum requirement how much milk you have to deliver per week or something. Maybe with a punishment if you fail, beeing locked in a milking machine once a day for the next week or something. -Although you're fucked often anyways, failing in giving enough milk might lead your slavers to the thought that you need some more. Get gangbanged by some orcs + fed with lactid. -Maybe even some kind of "bad end** milking slave", beeing locked in milking machines without hands/legs (amputator framework). -Don't make it optional to be milked, enforce it. That my slave can offer or deny it via dialogue seems to be wrong. * No native speaker, i think there is at least one mistake but i can't say what's wrong exactly. ** bad end: i don't want a final kill, just a way out of the slavery/mod. For example there could be some background story that they don't give you any food anymore, you pass out, they sell your "corpse" to some giants or kennels or something and you wake up when your belly is filled again. All I can say about the fame thing for now is let's wait and see what I come up with, not sure it'll be better but I think I'm doing it pretty well. For the breeder thing, I love the idea, Sexout Breeder is one of the only mods I actually remember playing in NV, what is becoming frustrating is the frequent request in this thread of "Make a Breeder Mod" and literally nothing else. It brings nothing new to the idea or discussion and provides me with nothing new to work with or think about. For the milking thing it wouldn't be hard to support either as soft dependency. For the actual requirement I'd probably just require either one, mainly so that there doesn't need to be a third mod that introduces a new way to handle milking. I'll be honest though, I flip-flop on how appealing I actually find the whole milking thing in my game, installing and uninstalling MME and SGO quite frequently, so I probably shouldn't have any real input writing the quest. Other than this: Week long cycles in the game seem like a good idea at first but that's a long-ass time in-game, shorter (daily) cycles tend to work best for gameplay IMO. Otherwise you find yourself spending either multiple hours of RL time in some slavepen or you just wait for like 18 hours every now and then.
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 Glad you like the slapping. I admit, it's been a while since i had SLSF installed, it is quite customizable and the idea that for example tattoos don't count if they aren't visible makes a lot of sense to me (and other mods like player exhibitionist + rape tattoos more... intresting ). In some scenarios like beeing a beastess, living in the wilds with your pack it might be less useful, though. Not sure if that can be changed. One reason that i don't have it installed currently is that i'm using it's abandoned predecessor More Devious Quests. It has 3 main features and i think, or hope, one could maybe be used as a kind of framework as well as independent mod: give the player simple tasks. The tasks included aren't always sex related, but i think it would be great to have these for a kind of slave live. Imho it would improve SD+ for example a lot. Versh gave permission to continue it or rip it apart and use parts of it and he is still around in case you have questions or need the source or anything. Doing tasks for devious keys might be nice as well. Medi-time consuming if you accept anything, more if you don't want to do the humilating things. The next feature, Slut madness, is fun but quite script heavy and probably there is no way around that. Not sure about the follower part, i almost never play with followers. Might be worth a look if you can do something intresting with it, though. If you're working on your own fame framework i guess i can figure out some small quests with consequences according to your actions, i'd need to see some features and possibilities as inspiration. Most quests i have in mind are already suggested to vinfamys Dovahkiin infamy or other mods, i don't think they'll be used all but i'm not sure what will be left behind. I'll figure out and need to do some polishing, some are rather raw. Includes a breeder quest. Couldn't figure out if you dislike it or if those requests weren't concrete enough to make something, at least i didn't see an answer. *edit: Delzarons Asylum could be one thing. In his thread he sounds so desperate, i'm afraid he'll rather delete what he's done so far because he can't finish it. If you don't want to cooperate with him, maybe you could take it over. Wouldn't be that short, though. *edit2: suggested something similiar actually to Slaverun reloaded, but with some changes it might be a nice little mod on it's own: milking slave (might or might not be connected to a breeder quest) Ideally it would support both MME and SGO, but if only one is possible that's fine too. Not sure what i prefer, usually SGO for gameplay, but MME for the slave experience. Story depends a bit if it should rather be considered an addition for other mods or more independent, but the raw picture: - you are overwhelmed - lactation is enforced (lactaid and/or pregnancy) - deliver milk or be punished Here is my original suggestion, on it's own it's a bit different from the slaverun version of course. But i could also imagine that might work well with stuff like the devious framework, SD+ and such. Maybe an additional task if you can do something with more devious quests. For my taste it's not sadistic enough. At least, not all parts. Imho the milk slave part could need some spice, just running around and offer some milk doesn't feel slave like for me. For example: -Actually you'll get fucked often enough to keep you pregnant, but one or two comments about that would be nice. Something like "We keep you well stuffed, cow. There won't be any time you're not pregnant producing milk." * -Something like a minimum requirement how much milk you have to deliver per week or something. Maybe with a punishment if you fail, beeing locked in a milking machine once a day for the next week or something. -Although you're fucked often anyways, failing in giving enough milk might lead your slavers to the thought that you need some more. Get gangbanged by some orcs + fed with lactid. -Maybe even some kind of "bad end** milking slave", beeing locked in milking machines without hands/legs (amputator framework). -Don't make it optional to be milked, enforce it. That my slave can offer or deny it via dialogue seems to be wrong. * No native speaker, i think there is at least one mistake but i can't say what's wrong exactly. ** bad end: i don't want a final kill, just a way out of the slavery/mod. For example there could be some background story that they don't give you any food anymore, you pass out, they sell your "corpse" to some giants or kennels or something and you wake up when your belly is filled again. All I can say about the fame thing for now is let's wait and see what I come up with, not sure it'll be better but I think I'm doing it pretty well. For the breeder thing, I love the idea, Sexout Breeder is one of the only mods I actually remember playing in NV, what is becoming frustrating is the frequent request in this thread of "Make a Breeder Mod" and literally nothing else. It brings nothing new to the idea or discussion and provides me with nothing new to work with or think about. For the milking thing it wouldn't be hard to support either as soft dependency. For the actual requirement I'd probably just require either one, mainly so that there doesn't need to be a third mod that introduces a new way to handle milking. I'll be honest though, I flip-flop on how appealing I actually find the whole milking thing in my game, installing and uninstalling MME and SGO quite frequently, so I probably shouldn't have any real input writing the quest. Other than this: Week long cycles in the game seem like a good idea at first but that's a long-ass time in-game, shorter (daily) cycles tend to work best for gameplay IMO. Otherwise you find yourself spending either multiple hours of RL time in some slavepen or you just wait for like 18 hours every now and then. With MME it's similar for me, i install/uninstall it quite regularly. The main reason for that is that i lack the feeling it really adds anything, but a quest attached to it would change that. SGO is rather for the gameplay, i hate collecting souls for enchantments, so... i produce them myself. For a slave experience i'd prefer the milking machines from MME, though. Daycycles: I think that depends a lot which other mods are installed, with need mods and questing and fast travel i can spend one week ingame in 3-5 hours real time. I think i spend ~12 game hours every day with collecting food, cooking, eating, and sleeping. Because of that, VirginMarie added a toggle in her mod if i want encounters weekly or daily, that might be an idea here as well. And of course it depends on the mod itself, if you're enforced to stay in a certain area, daily makes much more sense than if you only have to report back and are able to do other stuff the rest of the time. Since the idea was originally for slaverun where you're supposed to do other stuff in other cities weekly made more sense imho, but for an independent mod i'd be fine not beeing allowed to leave too. Breeder quest: i have suggested one to vinfamy, still not sure if he wants to implement that. But on the other hand, there is nothing wrong with 2 mods with such content (won't be the main content of vinfamys mod anyways). I have to think about it and hopefully be able to suggest something more concrete. Didn't play NV yet, my brother gave me access to his steam library but until now... i was busy with Skyrim mods.
valcon767 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Breeder quest: i have suggested one to vinfamy, still not sure if he wants to implement that. But on the other hand, there is nothing wrong with 2 mods with such content (won't be the main content of vinfamys mod anyways). I have to think about it and hopefully be able to suggest something more concrete. Didn't play NV yet, my brother gave me access to his steam library but until now... i was busy with Skyrim mods. hmm ok had some ideas that kept cropping up time to time in the back of my mind for a while now finally wrote them down and cleaned them up a bit (yes its in a text file - I just never could get it to look right as a post) I did use the Skyrim interactive map (from eusp.net) to check my suggested locations (I did wind up changing some of them) just my thoughts on how we could have a "Skyrim Breeder" mod the questline could be broken into parts (each animal type a new part) that way hopefully some talented mod maker could make it the ideas are there for anyone to use as they see fit (even if you don't like it maybe it can give you some ideas). skyrim breeder.txt
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Breeder quest: i have suggested one to vinfamy, still not sure if he wants to implement that. But on the other hand, there is nothing wrong with 2 mods with such content (won't be the main content of vinfamys mod anyways). I have to think about it and hopefully be able to suggest something more concrete. Didn't play NV yet, my brother gave me access to his steam library but until now... i was busy with Skyrim mods. hmm ok had some ideas that kept cropping up time to time in the back of my mind for a while now finally wrote them down and cleaned them up a bit (yes its in a text file - I just never could get it to look right as a post) I did use the Skyrim interactive map (from eusp.net) to check my suggested locations (I did wind up changing some of them) just my thoughts on how we could have a "Skyrim Breeder" mod the questline could be broken into parts (each animal type a new part) that way hopefully some talented mod maker could make it the ideas are there for anyone to use as they see fit (even if you don't like it maybe it can give you some ideas). First thoughts after reading: - the reward should contain MUCH more gold. Breeding animals for the price of a warm meal doesn't sound right. - seperate Falmers and Chaurus, Giant and Mammoth. I know it's magic and all, but making two babies of two races at once doesn't sound right to me. Maybe exclude Mammoth at all, as far as i know, there is no animation for penetration with a mammoth... i don't think they ejaculate through their mouth/trunk. - biggest part: it conntains a lot of sex, but i'm missing a bigger story or anything beside sex somehow... but, i can't really imagine a big scenario where breeding all those creatures would make any sense. For comparison, what i suggested to vinfamy was only sex with wolves to breed werewolves, captured by some worhsippers of Hircine as a part of a quite long quest mod. What i could imagine is some background story why those clients want those creatures, and maybe some action after fullfilling the task. Like, some time after breeding the Skeevers, you encounter a women who wants to conquer the world with them. (A bit like the one in FO3 with the ants). Maybe just a rumor that a woman with 3 Skeevers attacked Whiterun. The guards ignored her because she was no real threat and the Skeevers stayed calm, but in her rage she stumbled, fall from the bridge into the river and broke her neck. Something between fight and funny would add a lot imho, but it would be quite some work to figure something out for every creature. But even with those little background stories, only fucking for days would become quite boring. In general i'd prefer some kind of enslavement, because... a breeder doesn't need to do anything than fuck, a slave can get any task including breeding. But getting enslaved >10 times to breed different animals sounds like the character is even more stupid than i role play most of my girls^^ I'm not sure how to solve this, not even mentioning making up some tasks besides fucking to keep it intresting. And that i prefer at least a minimum of realism, which means: no birth directly after getting pregnant. One solution might be that, after you're pregnant and they had some fun with you, you are free to leave but plugged and belted. Only those guys have the keys, and they will unlock you only for giving birth (shouldn't be a problem, the dev version of DDi allows modders to make quest items quite easy afaik). Could be an open belt, in this scenario speeding up pregnancy for sex would be fine for me. So far my first thoughts about your 2 cents. Don't get me wrong, i'd play it with your version as well, but i'd enjoy it more with more stuff.^^
valcon767 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 1 - the reward should contain MUCH more gold. Breeding animals for the price of a warm meal doesn't sound right. 2 - seperate Falmers and Chaurus, Giant and Mammoth. I know it's magic and all, but making two babies of two races at once doesn't sound right to me. Maybe exclude Mammoth at all, as far as i know, there is no animation for penetration with a mammoth... i don't think they ejaculate through their mouth/trunk. 3 - biggest part: it conntains a lot of sex, but i'm missing a bigger story or anything beside sex somehow... but, i can't really imagine a big scenario where breeding all those creatures would make any sense. For comparison, what i suggested to vinfamy was only sex with wolves to breed werewolves, captured by some worhsippers of Hircine as a part of a quite long quest mod. What i could imagine is some background story why those clients want those creatures, and maybe some action after fullfilling the task. Like, some time after breeding the Skeevers, you encounter a women who wants to conquer the world with them. (A bit like the one in FO3 with the ants). Maybe just a rumor that a woman with 3 Skeevers attacked Whiterun. The guards ignored her because she was no real threat and the Skeevers stayed calm, but in her rage she stumbled, fall from the bridge into the river and broke her neck. Something between fight and funny would add a lot imho, but it would be quite some work to figure something out for every creature. But even with those little background stories, only fucking for days would become quite boring. In general i'd prefer some kind of enslavement, because... a breeder doesn't need to do anything than fuck, a slave can get any task including breeding. But getting enslaved >10 times to breed different animals sounds like the character is even more stupid than i role play most of my girls^^ I'm not sure how to solve this, not even mentioning making up some tasks besides fucking to keep it intresting. And that i prefer at least a minimum of realism, which means: no birth directly after getting pregnant. One solution might be that, after you're pregnant and they had some fun with you, you are free to leave but plugged and belted. Only those guys have the keys, and they will unlock you only for giving birth (shouldn't be a problem, the dev version of DDi allows modders to make quest items quite easy afaik). Could be an open belt, in this scenario speeding up pregnancy for sex would be fine for me. So far my first thoughts about your 2 cents. Don't get me wrong, i'd play it with your version as well, but i'd enjoy it more with more stuff.^^ 1 - you are right....after sleeping on it and rereading it I agree on the gold (a quick fix would be to just add a 0 to all gold amounts), trying to make it worth doing but not quite a get rich quick scheme (max gold would be 5000 gold {with the quick fix}, the price of any plot of land /Breezehome). 2 - giant /mammoth just drop the mammoth, for Falmer + Chaurus just drop the Falmer (hmm could link from that scenario to TID easy) 3 - more story would of course be better. I could probably come up with some short stories (to add to generic dialogue, like you suggested for the skeevers). will think more on that and write them down. will repost here when those are done also. I have a specific dialogue in mind for skeevers (not the one you posted) that could work also. I will have to think of at least 2 different dialogues per beast (3-5 would be better). the special belts/plugs idea is a very good one (did not realize how easy it would be to make them), and doing it that way would make it so that there is a lot the PC can do while pregnant. hmmm thinking about it a bit more it could be : it is one person (Shop Breeder [sB] {combining functions of Breeder Boss, and Breeder's Helper) who (due to failing to make his spell work right) has to "contract out" the breeding part of the process (his spell works for speeding it up, but not for the impregnation part). SB sends the PC out to get pregnant to fill orders, the SB sends the PC downstairs out to try a dog (to make sure the PC is willing and able to breed") after PC has sex (a basement for visiting travelers and their "pets" which due to way captured are dying). PC has to check with SB to see if she is pregnant (say 25% chance), at which point the belt/plugs get applied. after a length of time (told to PC after being belted, with a vague mention of the speed up spell, spell would get applied only after sex with SB 3 times), the PC would have to report back in to get the belt/plugs removed at time of birth (this is the time for the scripted birth scene). and the SB then say I have more customers if you are willing to help. (dialogue choices would include all previous orders). the SB is just providing a service (hooking up a female to bear young with customers looking for specialized young for pets or other purposes). sigh anyway time to think more on the dialogues now, then see what I can come up with for a improved version of what I wrote so far. thanks for the input (more input is always better even if the ideas don't work).
Delzaron Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 1 - the reward should contain MUCH more gold. Breeding animals for the price of a warm meal doesn't sound right. 2 - seperate Falmers and Chaurus, Giant and Mammoth. I know it's magic and all, but making two babies of two races at once doesn't sound right to me. Maybe exclude Mammoth at all, as far as i know, there is no animation for penetration with a mammoth... i don't think they ejaculate through their mouth/trunk. 3 - biggest part: it conntains a lot of sex, but i'm missing a bigger story or anything beside sex somehow... but, i can't really imagine a big scenario where breeding all those creatures would make any sense. For comparison, what i suggested to vinfamy was only sex with wolves to breed werewolves, captured by some worhsippers of Hircine as a part of a quite long quest mod. What i could imagine is some background story why those clients want those creatures, and maybe some action after fullfilling the task. Like, some time after breeding the Skeevers, you encounter a women who wants to conquer the world with them. (A bit like the one in FO3 with the ants). Maybe just a rumor that a woman with 3 Skeevers attacked Whiterun. The guards ignored her because she was no real threat and the Skeevers stayed calm, but in her rage she stumbled, fall from the bridge into the river and broke her neck. Something between fight and funny would add a lot imho, but it would be quite some work to figure something out for every creature. But even with those little background stories, only fucking for days would become quite boring. In general i'd prefer some kind of enslavement, because... a breeder doesn't need to do anything than fuck, a slave can get any task including breeding. But getting enslaved >10 times to breed different animals sounds like the character is even more stupid than i role play most of my girls^^ I'm not sure how to solve this, not even mentioning making up some tasks besides fucking to keep it intresting. And that i prefer at least a minimum of realism, which means: no birth directly after getting pregnant. One solution might be that, after you're pregnant and they had some fun with you, you are free to leave but plugged and belted. Only those guys have the keys, and they will unlock you only for giving birth (shouldn't be a problem, the dev version of DDi allows modders to make quest items quite easy afaik). Could be an open belt, in this scenario speeding up pregnancy for sex would be fine for me. So far my first thoughts about your 2 cents. Don't get me wrong, i'd play it with your version as well, but i'd enjoy it more with more stuff.^^ 1 - you are right....after sleeping on it and rereading it I agree on the gold (a quick fix would be to just add a 0 to all gold amounts), trying to make it worth doing but not quite a get rich quick scheme (max gold would be 5000 gold {with the quick fix}, the price of any plot of land /Breezehome). 2 - giant /mammoth just drop the mammoth, for Falmer + Chaurus just drop the Falmer (hmm could link from that scenario to TID easy) 3 - more story would of course be better. I could probably come up with some short stories (to add to generic dialogue, like you suggested for the skeevers). will think more on that and write them down. will repost here when those are done also. I have a specific dialogue in mind for skeevers (not the one you posted) that could work also. I will have to think of at least 2 different dialogues per beast (3-5 would be better). the special belts/plugs idea is a very good one (did not realize how easy it would be to make them), and doing it that way would make it so that there is a lot the PC can do while pregnant. hmmm thinking about it a bit more it could be : it is one person (Shop Breeder [sB] {combining functions of Breeder Boss, and Breeder's Helper) who (due to failing to make his spell work right) has to "contract out" the breeding part of the process (his spell works for speeding it up, but not for the impregnation part). SB sends the PC out to get pregnant to fill orders, the SB sends the PC downstairs out to try a dog (to make sure the PC is willing and able to breed") after PC has sex (a basement for visiting travelers and their "pets" which due to way captured are dying). PC has to check with SB to see if she is pregnant (say 25% chance), at which point the belt/plugs get applied. after a length of time (told to PC after being belted, with a vague mention of the speed up spell, spell would get applied only after sex with SB 3 times), the PC would have to report back in to get the belt/plugs removed at time of birth (this is the time for the scripted birth scene). and the SB then say I have more customers if you are willing to help. (dialogue choices would include all previous orders). the SB is just providing a service (hooking up a female to bear young with customers looking for specialized young for pets or other purposes). sigh anyway time to think more on the dialogues now, then see what I can come up with for a improved version of what I wrote so far. thanks for the input (more input is always better even if the ideas don't work). Breeder quest, really ? Like this ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/50953-sexout-breeder-v88-riverside-beta/ (note : i tested that mod, and it never worked...)
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 1 - the reward should contain MUCH more gold. Breeding animals for the price of a warm meal doesn't sound right. 2 - seperate Falmers and Chaurus, Giant and Mammoth. I know it's magic and all, but making two babies of two races at once doesn't sound right to me. Maybe exclude Mammoth at all, as far as i know, there is no animation for penetration with a mammoth... i don't think they ejaculate through their mouth/trunk. 3 - biggest part: it conntains a lot of sex, but i'm missing a bigger story or anything beside sex somehow... but, i can't really imagine a big scenario where breeding all those creatures would make any sense. For comparison, what i suggested to vinfamy was only sex with wolves to breed werewolves, captured by some worhsippers of Hircine as a part of a quite long quest mod. What i could imagine is some background story why those clients want those creatures, and maybe some action after fullfilling the task. Like, some time after breeding the Skeevers, you encounter a women who wants to conquer the world with them. (A bit like the one in FO3 with the ants). Maybe just a rumor that a woman with 3 Skeevers attacked Whiterun. The guards ignored her because she was no real threat and the Skeevers stayed calm, but in her rage she stumbled, fall from the bridge into the river and broke her neck. Something between fight and funny would add a lot imho, but it would be quite some work to figure something out for every creature. But even with those little background stories, only fucking for days would become quite boring. In general i'd prefer some kind of enslavement, because... a breeder doesn't need to do anything than fuck, a slave can get any task including breeding. But getting enslaved >10 times to breed different animals sounds like the character is even more stupid than i role play most of my girls^^ I'm not sure how to solve this, not even mentioning making up some tasks besides fucking to keep it intresting. And that i prefer at least a minimum of realism, which means: no birth directly after getting pregnant. One solution might be that, after you're pregnant and they had some fun with you, you are free to leave but plugged and belted. Only those guys have the keys, and they will unlock you only for giving birth (shouldn't be a problem, the dev version of DDi allows modders to make quest items quite easy afaik). Could be an open belt, in this scenario speeding up pregnancy for sex would be fine for me. So far my first thoughts about your 2 cents. Don't get me wrong, i'd play it with your version as well, but i'd enjoy it more with more stuff.^^ 1 - you are right....after sleeping on it and rereading it I agree on the gold (a quick fix would be to just add a 0 to all gold amounts), trying to make it worth doing but not quite a get rich quick scheme (max gold would be 5000 gold {with the quick fix}, the price of any plot of land /Breezehome). 2 - giant /mammoth just drop the mammoth, for Falmer + Chaurus just drop the Falmer (hmm could link from that scenario to TID easy) 3 - more story would of course be better. I could probably come up with some short stories (to add to generic dialogue, like you suggested for the skeevers). will think more on that and write them down. will repost here when those are done also. I have a specific dialogue in mind for skeevers (not the one you posted) that could work also. I will have to think of at least 2 different dialogues per beast (3-5 would be better). the special belts/plugs idea is a very good one (did not realize how easy it would be to make them), and doing it that way would make it so that there is a lot the PC can do while pregnant. hmmm thinking about it a bit more it could be : it is one person (Shop Breeder [sB] {combining functions of Breeder Boss, and Breeder's Helper) who (due to failing to make his spell work right) has to "contract out" the breeding part of the process (his spell works for speeding it up, but not for the impregnation part). SB sends the PC out to get pregnant to fill orders, the SB sends the PC downstairs out to try a dog (to make sure the PC is willing and able to breed") after PC has sex (a basement for visiting travelers and their "pets" which due to way captured are dying). PC has to check with SB to see if she is pregnant (say 25% chance), at which point the belt/plugs get applied. after a length of time (told to PC after being belted, with a vague mention of the speed up spell, spell would get applied only after sex with SB 3 times), the PC would have to report back in to get the belt/plugs removed at time of birth (this is the time for the scripted birth scene). and the SB then say I have more customers if you are willing to help. (dialogue choices would include all previous orders). the SB is just providing a service (hooking up a female to bear young with customers looking for specialized young for pets or other purposes). sigh anyway time to think more on the dialogues now, then see what I can come up with for a improved version of what I wrote so far. thanks for the input (more input is always better even if the ideas don't work). Breeder quest, really ? Like this ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/50953-sexout-breeder-v88-riverside-beta/ (note : i tested that mod, and it never worked...) Don't know, never played NV, but i'm almost in the mood to install it just for this quests to get some inspiration. I had a darker version in mind than valcon767, not consensual at all and only for some few creatures because i don't think i can write different scenarios for that many creatures without getting quite repetetive and -sooner or later - boring. But valcons version might work as well... i could also imagine some kind of player corruption throughout those quests. It starts with capturing and just raped by some dogs, then they release the PC. Which will be captured again somehow to breed a goat, but the goat is much more hesitant to just jump on the player and needs some encouragement... so they offer the player a great reward if the task is done voluntarily and tell her to come back when she needs money*. Dialogue wise, i think the things could be spiced up a lot by some visits of the customers. Explaining why they want that breed, encouraging the PC or yelling at her. At least i see there some potential for funny stuff as well as some humilation. I guess that would be a mix of what i had in mind and what valcon already figured out. *medi stage between consensual and enforced: Instead of offering money, the BS tells the PC that they gave her a poison. She needs to come back for the antidote. After some time she really has a strange feeling and goes back to breed another creature, but she recognizes that she actually enjoys sex with creatures and learns at some point that there never was a poison (or alternativly can decide against it, but following quests are an outcome of simply slavery?). The strange feeling she had was simply because of beeing horny (and can't be satisfied by humans anymore. Or is that because of the poison?). At this point she can try to make a deal to get money for breeding, maybe offering some real choices which decide if/what/how much you get out of this. Still leaves some space to be frightened by trolls/giants, disgusted by chaurus and spiders but either beeing convinced or enforced to do it, or maybe skip those. Skipping them should have consequences, though. Me as a player want my toon fucked by that troll, but i also don't think the characters i create would do it voluntarily, there need to be a reason.
valcon767 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 1 - the reward should contain MUCH more gold. Breeding animals for the price of a warm meal doesn't sound right. 2 - seperate Falmers and Chaurus, Giant and Mammoth. I know it's magic and all, but making two babies of two races at once doesn't sound right to me. Maybe exclude Mammoth at all, as far as i know, there is no animation for penetration with a mammoth... i don't think they ejaculate through their mouth/trunk. 3 - biggest part: it conntains a lot of sex, but i'm missing a bigger story or anything beside sex somehow... but, i can't really imagine a big scenario where breeding all those creatures would make any sense. For comparison, what i suggested to vinfamy was only sex with wolves to breed werewolves, captured by some worhsippers of Hircine as a part of a quite long quest mod. What i could imagine is some background story why those clients want those creatures, and maybe some action after fullfilling the task. Like, some time after breeding the Skeevers, you encounter a women who wants to conquer the world with them. (A bit like the one in FO3 with the ants). Maybe just a rumor that a woman with 3 Skeevers attacked Whiterun. The guards ignored her because she was no real threat and the Skeevers stayed calm, but in her rage she stumbled, fall from the bridge into the river and broke her neck. Something between fight and funny would add a lot imho, but it would be quite some work to figure something out for every creature. But even with those little background stories, only fucking for days would become quite boring. In general i'd prefer some kind of enslavement, because... a breeder doesn't need to do anything than fuck, a slave can get any task including breeding. But getting enslaved >10 times to breed different animals sounds like the character is even more stupid than i role play most of my girls^^ I'm not sure how to solve this, not even mentioning making up some tasks besides fucking to keep it intresting. And that i prefer at least a minimum of realism, which means: no birth directly after getting pregnant. One solution might be that, after you're pregnant and they had some fun with you, you are free to leave but plugged and belted. Only those guys have the keys, and they will unlock you only for giving birth (shouldn't be a problem, the dev version of DDi allows modders to make quest items quite easy afaik). Could be an open belt, in this scenario speeding up pregnancy for sex would be fine for me. So far my first thoughts about your 2 cents. Don't get me wrong, i'd play it with your version as well, but i'd enjoy it more with more stuff.^^ 1 - you are right....after sleeping on it and rereading it I agree on the gold (a quick fix would be to just add a 0 to all gold amounts), trying to make it worth doing but not quite a get rich quick scheme (max gold would be 5000 gold {with the quick fix}, the price of any plot of land /Breezehome). 2 - giant /mammoth just drop the mammoth, for Falmer + Chaurus just drop the Falmer (hmm could link from that scenario to TID easy) 3 - more story would of course be better. I could probably come up with some short stories (to add to generic dialogue, like you suggested for the skeevers). will think more on that and write them down. will repost here when those are done also. I have a specific dialogue in mind for skeevers (not the one you posted) that could work also. I will have to think of at least 2 different dialogues per beast (3-5 would be better). the special belts/plugs idea is a very good one (did not realize how easy it would be to make them), and doing it that way would make it so that there is a lot the PC can do while pregnant. hmmm thinking about it a bit more it could be : it is one person (Shop Breeder [sB] {combining functions of Breeder Boss, and Breeder's Helper) who (due to failing to make his spell work right) has to "contract out" the breeding part of the process (his spell works for speeding it up, but not for the impregnation part). SB sends the PC out to get pregnant to fill orders, the SB sends the PC downstairs out to try a dog (to make sure the PC is willing and able to breed") after PC has sex (a basement for visiting travelers and their "pets" which due to way captured are dying). PC has to check with SB to see if she is pregnant (say 25% chance), at which point the belt/plugs get applied. after a length of time (told to PC after being belted, with a vague mention of the speed up spell, spell would get applied only after sex with SB 3 times), the PC would have to report back in to get the belt/plugs removed at time of birth (this is the time for the scripted birth scene). and the SB then say I have more customers if you are willing to help. (dialogue choices would include all previous orders). the SB is just providing a service (hooking up a female to bear young with customers looking for specialized young for pets or other purposes). sigh anyway time to think more on the dialogues now, then see what I can come up with for a improved version of what I wrote so far. thanks for the input (more input is always better even if the ideas don't work). Breeder quest, really ? Like this ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/50953-sexout-breeder-v88-riverside-beta/ (note : i tested that mod, and it never worked...) Don't know, never played NV, but i'm almost in the mood to install it just for this quests to get some inspiration. I had a darker version in mind than valcon767, not consensual at all and only for some few creatures because i don't think i can write different scenarios for that many creatures without getting quite repetetive and -sooner or later - boring. But valcons version might work as well... i could also imagine some kind of player corruption throughout those quests. It starts with capturing and just raped by some dogs, then they release the PC. Which will be captured again somehow to breed a goat, but the goat is much more hesitant to just jump on the player and needs some encouragement... so they offer the player a great reward if the task is done voluntarily and tell her to come back when she needs money*. Dialogue wise, i think the things could be spiced up a lot by some visits of the customers. Explaining why they want that breed, encouraging the PC or yelling at her. At least i see there some potential for funny stuff as well as some humilation. I guess that would be a mix of what i had in mind and what valcon already figured out. *medi stage between consensual and enforced: Instead of offering money, the BS tells the PC that they gave her a poison. She needs to come back for the antidote. After some time she really has a strange feeling and goes back to breed another creature, but she recognizes that she actually enjoys sex with creatures and learns at some point that there never was a poison (or alternativly can decide against it, but following quests are an outcome of simply slavery?). The strange feeling she had was simply because of beeing horny (and can't be satisfied by humans anymore. Or is that because of the poison?). At this point she can try to make a deal to get money for breeding, maybe offering some real choices which decide if/what/how much you get out of this. Still leaves some space to be frightened by trolls/giants, disgusted by chaurus and spiders but either beeing convinced or enforced to do it, or maybe skip those. Skipping them should have consequences, though. Me as a player want my toon fucked by that troll, but i also don't think the characters i create would do it voluntarily, there need to be a reason. the link Delzaron posted definitely was a major part of the inspiration of what I had come up with redid what I had so far trying to make it both more worthwhile and easier to make check attached new version of text file I can try to make this myself but be warned it is going to take me quite a while due to bad wrist injury ( I can not use a regular mouse and even with the custom made mouse I can use I can't work for long at a time - 30 minutes or so 1-3 times a day max, also due to that injury I can only play with a X360 controller). so if anyone at all wants to make it I would be grateful and if not at least the ideas are free. skyrim breeder.txt
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 1 - the reward should contain MUCH more gold. Breeding animals for the price of a warm meal doesn't sound right. 2 - seperate Falmers and Chaurus, Giant and Mammoth. I know it's magic and all, but making two babies of two races at once doesn't sound right to me. Maybe exclude Mammoth at all, as far as i know, there is no animation for penetration with a mammoth... i don't think they ejaculate through their mouth/trunk. 3 - biggest part: it conntains a lot of sex, but i'm missing a bigger story or anything beside sex somehow... but, i can't really imagine a big scenario where breeding all those creatures would make any sense. For comparison, what i suggested to vinfamy was only sex with wolves to breed werewolves, captured by some worhsippers of Hircine as a part of a quite long quest mod. What i could imagine is some background story why those clients want those creatures, and maybe some action after fullfilling the task. Like, some time after breeding the Skeevers, you encounter a women who wants to conquer the world with them. (A bit like the one in FO3 with the ants). Maybe just a rumor that a woman with 3 Skeevers attacked Whiterun. The guards ignored her because she was no real threat and the Skeevers stayed calm, but in her rage she stumbled, fall from the bridge into the river and broke her neck. Something between fight and funny would add a lot imho, but it would be quite some work to figure something out for every creature. But even with those little background stories, only fucking for days would become quite boring. In general i'd prefer some kind of enslavement, because... a breeder doesn't need to do anything than fuck, a slave can get any task including breeding. But getting enslaved >10 times to breed different animals sounds like the character is even more stupid than i role play most of my girls^^ I'm not sure how to solve this, not even mentioning making up some tasks besides fucking to keep it intresting. And that i prefer at least a minimum of realism, which means: no birth directly after getting pregnant. One solution might be that, after you're pregnant and they had some fun with you, you are free to leave but plugged and belted. Only those guys have the keys, and they will unlock you only for giving birth (shouldn't be a problem, the dev version of DDi allows modders to make quest items quite easy afaik). Could be an open belt, in this scenario speeding up pregnancy for sex would be fine for me. So far my first thoughts about your 2 cents. Don't get me wrong, i'd play it with your version as well, but i'd enjoy it more with more stuff.^^ 1 - you are right....after sleeping on it and rereading it I agree on the gold (a quick fix would be to just add a 0 to all gold amounts), trying to make it worth doing but not quite a get rich quick scheme (max gold would be 5000 gold {with the quick fix}, the price of any plot of land /Breezehome). 2 - giant /mammoth just drop the mammoth, for Falmer + Chaurus just drop the Falmer (hmm could link from that scenario to TID easy) 3 - more story would of course be better. I could probably come up with some short stories (to add to generic dialogue, like you suggested for the skeevers). will think more on that and write them down. will repost here when those are done also. I have a specific dialogue in mind for skeevers (not the one you posted) that could work also. I will have to think of at least 2 different dialogues per beast (3-5 would be better). the special belts/plugs idea is a very good one (did not realize how easy it would be to make them), and doing it that way would make it so that there is a lot the PC can do while pregnant. hmmm thinking about it a bit more it could be : it is one person (Shop Breeder [sB] {combining functions of Breeder Boss, and Breeder's Helper) who (due to failing to make his spell work right) has to "contract out" the breeding part of the process (his spell works for speeding it up, but not for the impregnation part). SB sends the PC out to get pregnant to fill orders, the SB sends the PC downstairs out to try a dog (to make sure the PC is willing and able to breed") after PC has sex (a basement for visiting travelers and their "pets" which due to way captured are dying). PC has to check with SB to see if she is pregnant (say 25% chance), at which point the belt/plugs get applied. after a length of time (told to PC after being belted, with a vague mention of the speed up spell, spell would get applied only after sex with SB 3 times), the PC would have to report back in to get the belt/plugs removed at time of birth (this is the time for the scripted birth scene). and the SB then say I have more customers if you are willing to help. (dialogue choices would include all previous orders). the SB is just providing a service (hooking up a female to bear young with customers looking for specialized young for pets or other purposes). sigh anyway time to think more on the dialogues now, then see what I can come up with for a improved version of what I wrote so far. thanks for the input (more input is always better even if the ideas don't work). Breeder quest, really ? Like this ? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/50953-sexout-breeder-v88-riverside-beta/ (note : i tested that mod, and it never worked...) Don't know, never played NV, but i'm almost in the mood to install it just for this quests to get some inspiration. I had a darker version in mind than valcon767, not consensual at all and only for some few creatures because i don't think i can write different scenarios for that many creatures without getting quite repetetive and -sooner or later - boring. But valcons version might work as well... i could also imagine some kind of player corruption throughout those quests. It starts with capturing and just raped by some dogs, then they release the PC. Which will be captured again somehow to breed a goat, but the goat is much more hesitant to just jump on the player and needs some encouragement... so they offer the player a great reward if the task is done voluntarily and tell her to come back when she needs money*. Dialogue wise, i think the things could be spiced up a lot by some visits of the customers. Explaining why they want that breed, encouraging the PC or yelling at her. At least i see there some potential for funny stuff as well as some humilation. I guess that would be a mix of what i had in mind and what valcon already figured out. *medi stage between consensual and enforced: Instead of offering money, the BS tells the PC that they gave her a poison. She needs to come back for the antidote. After some time she really has a strange feeling and goes back to breed another creature, but she recognizes that she actually enjoys sex with creatures and learns at some point that there never was a poison (or alternativly can decide against it, but following quests are an outcome of simply slavery?). The strange feeling she had was simply because of beeing horny (and can't be satisfied by humans anymore. Or is that because of the poison?). At this point she can try to make a deal to get money for breeding, maybe offering some real choices which decide if/what/how much you get out of this. Still leaves some space to be frightened by trolls/giants, disgusted by chaurus and spiders but either beeing convinced or enforced to do it, or maybe skip those. Skipping them should have consequences, though. Me as a player want my toon fucked by that troll, but i also don't think the characters i create would do it voluntarily, there need to be a reason. the link Delzaron posted definitely was a major part of the inspiration of what I had come up with redid what I had so far trying to make it both more worthwhile and easier to make check attached new version of text file I can try to make this myself but be warned it is going to take me quite a while due to bad wrist injury ( I can not use a regular mouse and even with the custom made mouse I can use I can't work for long at a time - 30 minutes or so 1-3 times a day max, also due to that injury I can only play with a X360 controller). so if anyone at all wants to make it I would be grateful and if not at least the ideas are free. I'd like to hear what feliks thinks about our ideas (consensual/enforced/corruption) so far before i start to write concrete scenes, as far as i see we have a bit different preferences, but what you did so far already sounds like i'd enjoy to play it as well. And i can probably write some stuff for both censensual and enforced. One thought i had during reading your generic comments: creature incest? Means, some of the creatures you birth might not be as calm as expected and their owners need some help... either by breeding again with them or only by fucking them without pregnancy, possibly seperate after the breeding is finished. Might be too close to Animal mansion and probably that's not everybodies taste. But i'd like it. Quest mechanic: Not sure how difficult that would be, but i think it would be great if one can skip one creature quite similar like you already suggested: -breeding a creature once will unlock the next one -breeding a creature 3 times will unlock another one. For example, if one doesn't like to fuck spiders, breeding Skeevers 3 (or more?) times instead will also unlock sabre cats. That would be enough consequence for me. And another thought, but at this point i'm wondering if you dislike the rape stuff? There could be "accidents", like: Nachael and his friends get really drunk and -pass out, forgetting you in the cage for some time (and that they didn't lock the door between two cages, so the second troll/the other 3 Skeevers join the fun) - become mean and do it intentionally or the sadistic customer wants to see how his animal is made and has some additional requests.... Again similar to animal mansion, but there might be some female customers who don't want to get pregnant, but would like to join you. I'd really like to know what you and feliks think about that, like/dislike/different? When i have an idea what you guys think about that, i'll start to write some dialogues and stuff.
valcon767 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 1 One thought i had during reading your generic comments: creature incest? Means, some of the creatures you birth might not be as calm as expected and their owners need some help... either by breeding again with them or only by fucking them without pregnancy, possibly seperate after the breeding is finished. Might be too close to Animal mansion and probably that's not everybodies taste. But i'd like it. 2 Quest mechanic: Not sure how difficult that would be, but i think it would be great if one can skip one creature quite similar like you already suggested: -breeding a creature once will unlock the next one -breeding a creature 3 times will unlock another one. For example, if one doesn't like to fuck spiders, breeding Skeevers 3 (or more?) times instead will also unlock sabre cats. That would be enough consequence for me. 3 And another thought, but at this point i'm wondering if you dislike the rape stuff? There could be "accidents", like: Nachael and his friends get really drunk and -pass out, forgetting you in the cage for some time (and that they didn't lock the door between two cages, so the second troll/the other 3 Skeevers join the fun) - become mean and do it intentionally or the sadistic customer wants to see how his animal is made and has some additional requests.... 4 Again similar to animal mansion, but there might be some female customers who don't want to get pregnant, but would like to join you. I'd really like to know what you and feliks think about that, like/dislike/different? When i have an idea what you guys think about that, i'll start to write some dialogues and stuff. intentionally 1 - the comments are meant (hopefully if this ever gets written) to be added to the general comment pool for skyrim (basically all people if possible) like the idea for the creature incest part (maybe when thrown into the cage you have to ask for the "pregnancy potion" and if you don't ask you don't get pregnant. Nachael would tell you he has the potion needed for the pregnancy, but after you are in the cage.). breeding again (the children) would work (owner wants more pets or their not tame enough yet so it needs to be "bred" again to produce another set of offspring that are hopefully more tame). the just fucking them again would probably be a bit too close to the Animal Mansion mods, but really do like the "extra breedings" aspect though. 2 - excellent idea (only 2 animals that should not be able to be skipped at all would be dog and dragon, those are the 1st and last animal), and only able to skip every other animal (he has to make his money and you have to "prove" you can handle other types as well). 3 - that is another excellent set of ideas. (perhaps in conjunction with the "pregnancy potion" modification in #1 above) after you are in the cage and get "bred" the first time then he informs you that you have to be pregnant to be released, and by the way I have the potion you need to get pregnant and this is what it will cost you for me to give it to you. writing it I was thinking that if the PC agrees fine....but when the PC attempts to disagree that would be when the rape stuff starts. after all some will say sure they need the money that badly....but for the rest once you go downstairs it is no longer possible to refuse, the PC just doesn't know it yet, but once she walks downstairs Nachael is determined to get what he wants any way he has to. all of the guests would not care if she actually gets pregnant (they just want to enjoy and or participate in the show) would not have to make someone specific be the customer (for that animal). one of the guests is actually the customer. and yes there should be times Nachael forgets to lock the cage separating the animals from the PC (either on purpose or accidently) which would of course result in more "breedings". was not sure how to separate it offhand. 4 - of course the female guests do not want to get pregnant (that's what they are paying Nachael to provide them with after all, another female to get pregnant with the animal they wanted). that would work but guests should have about 3-4 males to 1 female ratio (I think). Hmmm a corruption mechanic would really work well with this idea too (the higher your corruption score the more you like it and would do it anyway) and of course the more times you have been "bred" the higher the corruption score gets. that would also need something to lower it (maybe a potion that you have to craft, but to get the recipe for the potion {from Nachael of course} you have to do a certain number of "breeding" quests, probably a high number {say if total breeding quests is 20 you have to do 15 before Nachael would sell you the potion recipe, and the recipe should have something extremely rare as a needed component). the other part I have to think about yet (when it should happen during the questline) is how to make it so that Simple Slavery/DEC could send the PC into the "forced breeding" part, and where to put a possibility for Nachael to sell you as your "reward". hmm that could be funny You get arrested for a crime and when released from prison (POP) sends you to Simple Slavery, you get sold to Nachael, he "breeds" you, he "rewards" you by sending you to the Simple Slavery acution again, and guess what he ends up buying you again. now that would be funny as hell (to me at least).
Nazzzgul666 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 1 One thought i had during reading your generic comments: creature incest? Means, some of the creatures you birth might not be as calm as expected and their owners need some help... either by breeding again with them or only by fucking them without pregnancy, possibly seperate after the breeding is finished. Might be too close to Animal mansion and probably that's not everybodies taste. But i'd like it. 2 Quest mechanic: Not sure how difficult that would be, but i think it would be great if one can skip one creature quite similar like you already suggested: -breeding a creature once will unlock the next one -breeding a creature 3 times will unlock another one. For example, if one doesn't like to fuck spiders, breeding Skeevers 3 (or more?) times instead will also unlock sabre cats. That would be enough consequence for me. 3 And another thought, but at this point i'm wondering if you dislike the rape stuff? There could be "accidents", like: Nachael and his friends get really drunk and -pass out, forgetting you in the cage for some time (and that they didn't lock the door between two cages, so the second troll/the other 3 Skeevers join the fun) - become mean and do it intentionally or the sadistic customer wants to see how his animal is made and has some additional requests.... 4 Again similar to animal mansion, but there might be some female customers who don't want to get pregnant, but would like to join you. I'd really like to know what you and feliks think about that, like/dislike/different? When i have an idea what you guys think about that, i'll start to write some dialogues and stuff. 1 - the comments are meant (hopefully if this ever gets written) to be added to the general comment pool for skyrim (basically all people if possible) like the idea for the creature incest part (maybe when thrown into the cage you have to ask for the "pregnancy potion" and if you don't ask you don't get pregnant. Nachael would tell you he has the potion needed for the pregnancy, but after you are in the cage.). breeding again (the children) would work (owner wants more pets or their not tame enough yet so it needs to be "bred" again to produce another set of offspring that are hopefully more tame). the just fucking them again would probably be a bit too close to the Animal Mansion mods, but really do like the "extra breedings" aspect though. 2 - excellent idea (only 2 animals that should not be able to be skipped at all would be dog and dragon, those are the 1st and last animal), and only able to skip every other animal (he has to make his money and you have to "prove" you can handle other types as well). 3 - that is another excellent set of ideas. (perhaps in conjunction with the "pregnancy potion" modification in #1 above) after you are in the cage and get "bred" the first time then he informs you that you have to be pregnant to be released, and by the way I have the potion you need to get pregnant and this is what it will cost you for me to give it to you. writing it I was thinking that if the PC agrees fine....but when the PC attempts to disagree that would be when the rape stuff starts. after all some will say sure they need the money that badly....but for the rest once you go downstairs it is no longer possible to refuse, the PC just doesn't know it yet, but once she walks downstairs Nachael is determined to get what he wants any way he has to. all of the guests would not care if she actually gets pregnant (they just want to enjoy and or participate in the show) would not have to make someone specific be the customer (for that animal). one of the guests is actually the customer. and yes there should be times Nachael forgets to lock the cage separating the animals from the PC (either on purpose or accidently) which would of course result in more "breedings". was not sure how to separate it offhand. 4 - of course the female guests do not want to get pregnant (that's what they are paying Nachael to provide them with after all, another female to get pregnant with the animal they wanted). that would work but guests should have about 3-4 males to 1 female ratio (I think). Hmmm a corruption mechanic would really work well with this idea too (the higher your corruption score the more you like it and would do it anyway) and of course the more times you have been "bred" the higher the corruption score gets. that would also need something to lower it (maybe a potion that you have to craft, but to get the recipe for the potion {from Nachael of course} you have to do a certain number of "breeding" quests, probably a high number {say if total breeding quests is 20 you have to do 15 before Nachael would sell you the potion recipe, and the recipe should have something extremely rare as a needed component). the other part I have to think about yet (when it should happen during the questline) is how to make it so that Simple Slavery/DEC could send the PC into the "forced breeding" part, and where to put a possibility for Nachael to sell you as your "reward". hmm that could be funny You get arrested for a crime and when released from prison (POP) sends you to Simple Slavery, you get sold to Nachael, he "breeds" you, he "rewards" you by sending you to the Simple Slavery acution again, and guess what he ends up buying you again. now that would be funny as hell (to me at least). No idea how that big fat "intentionally" stayed there, sometimes i look words up for the spelling or translation, but copying them from google translate doesn't seem a good idea, I thought i deleted it. Glad you like it. The main problem i see with the consensual/non consensual part where you doesn't have a choice after going down the stairs: it works only once (or the character is incredibly stupid). I think there has to be a better way than totally depending on simple slavery, or not coming back at all, or only because the player wants to play the quest. There should be some reason for the character to come back, not only for the player and even without prostitution and stuff, my characters are never really short of gold, at least not for long. Beeing poisoned or tricked to believe so would be one way. Another option... hm. Did you play the "living armor" quest from cursed loot where you put on some smelly paste? Kimy doesn't like creature sex so i never suggested it, but here it would be fun i think: -short version: Nachael puts some smelly paste on you, which causes encounters with the next creature you have to breed. Those encounters won't be hostile, but they'll rape you on sight. Pregnancy is the only solution, but of course he'll use the next paste... and without potion/spell you won't get pregnant from those encounters, only fucked. -long version: for some reason you'll put the paste on yourself (maybe a fake anti corruption potion?). -much work version: we find a different reason for -more or less- every creature, creating something like a running gag which trickery is used next to make you come back this time. Player corruption: i rather thought about it dialogue and message driven than by a score system, but that would work as well and probably be less work at least for me. Special customers: it simply would allow some other/more specific dialogues/comments. While the guests enjoy the show, the customer could yell at you something like: "Move your hips harder, stupid bitch. I don't have all day." and maybe have some questions before/after: "Are you really good at sucking cocks? You know, you have to get those untamed creatures stiff fast, but if you waste any sperm in your mouth i will make you spit it out and shove it up with my fist where it belongs to. It needs to be done very carefully." "These are some nice jugs, will you give me some milk for my pet as well?" Ok, the last two would work for Nachael as well, but i think you get the picture. Not necessary at all, just some spice for the atmosphere. Can probably be done when everything else is finished, so... low priority even if we're sure we want to do it. The open cages.. my main reason for that idea is that there are several pretty good x-some animations avaivable, so it would be less about pregnancy, just giving some work to the other holes as well. Which leads to some other questions, for example requirement for some SLAL packs. Again, unecessary stuff that can be done at the end, but... using some certain animations in some cases would offer some possibilities: PC:"Ugh. Holy shit, this {creature} just sticked it up my butt!" Customer/Nachael: "Stupid bitch! I told you to rise your butt higher! If that happens again, i'll plug your butt with something so fucking big that there is no chance to go into the wrong hole! Now get done with it, and then go on to the next one." PC: "Ugh. Ouch! Uhg." *edit: another thought, might be more work than it's worth, though. Giving the whole mod another frame, where you aren't the breeder in the first place but hired as an investigator, searching for some missing girls. To gain access you will have to "play" a - more or less - voluntarily breeder. This would give the corruption stuff a new level imho. But i think it's a lot of work if it shall be done properly, with an additional location + NPC with a background for your client and dialogues and story... and maybe a bit too far from the original idea. But i'd like to see such a "investigation + corruption" mod. And it would solve the "the character don't like it but come back anyways" logical gap. Adding some other girls as additional breeders might be an idea anyways, though.
valcon767 Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 1 Glad you like it. The main problem i see with the consensual/non consensual part where you doesn't have a choice after going down the stairs: it works only once (or the character is incredibly stupid). I think there has to be a better way than totally depending on simple slavery, or not coming back at all, or only because the player wants to play the quest. There should be some reason for the character to come back, not only for the player and even without prostitution and stuff, my characters are never really short of gold, at least not for long. 2 Beeing poisoned or tricked to believe so would be one way. Another option... hm. Did you play the "living armor" quest from cursed loot where you put on some smelly paste? Kimy doesn't like creature sex so i never suggested it, but here it would be fun i think: -short version: Nachael puts some smelly paste on you, which causes encounters with the next creature you have to breed. Those encounters won't be hostile, but they'll rape you on sight. Pregnancy is the only solution, but of course he'll use the next paste... and without potion/spell you won't get pregnant from those encounters, only fucked. -long version: for some reason you'll put the paste on yourself (maybe a fake anti corruption potion?). -much work version: we find a different reason for -more or less- every creature, creating something like a running gag which trickery is used next to make you come back this time. 3 Player corruption: i rather thought about it dialogue and message driven than by a score system, but that would work as well and probably be less work at least for me. 4 Special customers: it simply would allow some other/more specific dialogues/comments. While the guests enjoy the show, the customer could yell at you something like: "Move your hips harder, stupid bitch. I don't have all day." and maybe have some questions before/after: "Are you really good at sucking cocks? You know, you have to get those untamed creatures stiff fast, but if you waste any sperm in your mouth i will make you spit it out and shove it up with my fist where it belongs to. It needs to be done very carefully." "These are some nice jugs, will you give me some milk for my pet as well?" Ok, the last two would work for Nachael as well, but i think you get the picture. Not necessary at all, just some spice for the atmosphere. Can probably be done when everything else is finished, so... low priority even if we're sure we want to do it. 5 The open cages.. my main reason for that idea is that there are several pretty good x-some animations avaivable, so it would be less about pregnancy, just giving some work to the other holes as well. Which leads to some other questions, for example requirement for some SLAL packs. Again, unecessary stuff that can be done at the end, but... using some certain animations in some cases would offer some possibilities: PC:"Ugh. Holy shit, this {creature} just sticked it up my butt!" Customer/Nachael: "Stupid bitch! I told you to rise your butt higher! If that happens again, i'll plug your butt with something so fucking big that there is no chance to go into the wrong hole! Now get done with it, and then go on to the next one." PC: "Ugh. Ouch! Uhg." 6 *edit: another thought, might be more work than it's worth, though. Giving the whole mod another frame, where you aren't the breeder in the first place but hired as an investigator, searching for some missing girls. To gain access you will have to "play" a - more or less - voluntarily breeder. This would give the corruption stuff a new level imho. But i think it's a lot of work if it shall be done properly, with an additional location + NPC with a background for your client and dialogues and story... and maybe a bit too far from the original idea. But i'd like to see such a "investigation + corruption" mod. And it would solve the "the character don't like it but come back anyways" logical gap. 7 Adding some other girls as additional breeders might be an idea anyways, though. 1 - glad you like that start idea and for reason she would go down again I have an idea that could work with or in place of your idea in #2. 2 - that is a really great idea (the poisoning). 3 - glad you like the idea. 4 - the comments (that type) would work for any of the customers (they are they to either watch or pay for the "breeding" anyway), and with the idea #5 gave me it would always work for Nachael. 5 - maybe a way for the PC to comment based on tags? that way if the animations uses a certain type of tag extra comments could be made by the PC the comment string you posted in #5 would work that way without requiring a specific SLAL pack. and if done that way the different comments would only show if a correct type of animation player. 6 - this gave me an idea that combined with #2 above would give plausible reasons for the PC to go back again (even knowing what is likely to happen) I will rewrite what I have so far (taking the last several posts into consideration) and post a new text file addressing (hopefully) most of this. 7 - I have an idea of how to work that in in conjunction with #6 above, it will be in the new text file. give me about little bit (probably take me about a day) and I will post a text with that stuff incorporated into it for your review (yet again ) p.s. all the names I use were random names generated with a skyrim random name generator.
tookachinchilla Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 This is quite generous of you, thank you! My request is -- to have the "PC becomes voluptuous when aroused" feature from Deviously Cursed Loot, as a standalone mod. I'm trying to keep my mod setup as streamlined as I can so I'd like to be able to have that feature without having to have the full DCL mod plus the trio of DD foundation mods. I know there's SL Hormones, but that's not really what I'm looking for. A mod where my PC gets more voluptuous the more aroused she gets is right in my fetish wheelhouse. I know Feliks has a lot on his itinerary, so if anyone else can help me out, that would be terrific. Thanks!
valcon767 Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 new(er) attempt at making the mod idea better (and darker hopefully) much thanks to Nazzzgul666 and Delzaron for ideas and inspirations. include 3 reasons for the PC to go back - corruption, trickery (deceit), and investigator. skyrim breeder attempt 2.txt
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