CLAMS OF SKYRIM PROJECT Inni Outie HDT Vagina

[悲しい少王女]

I think he meant dicks

[Dudemer]

I was ask about how to setup a custom shlong one might come across on loverslab. I'm currently running with one of EvilReFlex SOS addons that's why I was asking.

[tsnootch]

In the spoiler below was the post I just made, but I just did some testing and updated my post below the spoiler.

Spoiler

Firstly, let me say I love the breast motion and how they seem to move.

 

But, I have a problem that I hope can be solved with some tweaks to the hdtPhysicsExtensionDefaultBBP.xml.

 

Let me define some terms so that my request will make sense:

A.  When I say "breast spaz" I am referring to fps-related problems that might cause the breasts to go nuts for a few seconds (this is not the problem for me). 

B.  When I say "breast ping ponging" I am referring to when the breasts violently "ping pong" or shake quickly back and forth within a contained space for a moment (usually side to side and without losing their shape) when changing movement direction, or turning around quickly, etc.  It's as if they got caught momentarily in something, and then angrily break free for a moment, then return to normal behavior.

 

The problem I am having is with "breast ping ponging."  Prior to 5.5, I think I was using the Cosio FullHDT from 5.2 or 5.3....I can't remember.  Nevertheless, the breasts doesn't do that ping ponging thing with those old .xml's.  But now with 5.5, I am using Cosio FullHDT.  I LOVE the way the breasts move, but they ping pong so much now.  I cap my frames at 30 now, I don't use ENB, and don't have lots of heavy script mods.  I have tried all the breast related sliders, and even zeroed out the body and started a new game to test it.

 

It does this ping ponging thing no matter what I do now, but it seems much, much worse when the breasts are smaller.  Larger breasts don't seem to do this as much.

 

So, are there any values in the .xml that I can change to limit them from doing this?

 

So, I did some more testing and noticed something funny:  the frame limiter in enblocal.ini doesn't work consistently for me and this "breast ping ponging" issue made me notice the fps fluctuations more while trying to fix my problem, as described above.

 

I have seen scivrus, many times, explain to people that you either need to maintain 60fps or cap at 30fps.  Anything in between causes problems for physics.  So, weeks ago, I started capping my frames at 30 and then 45 with enblocal.ini.  I just noticed that, for me anyways, it often stops working and allows the frames to go up to 60 when in interior spaces AND when looking in consistent directions inside those interior cells.  For example, I was in my home, and I ran in one direction and anytime my character faced that direction, the enblocal.ini fps limiter would allow up to 60 fps, even though I capped it at 45 for testing.  Then, when I would turn around and run in another direction, the limiter would kick back in and cap at 45 again.  It does this every single time I looked in different directions.  I reloaded my game several times, made a new character and went back to that cell, same thing happened.  So, this is why I was finding it so difficult to get the breasts to calm down...because enblocal's fps limiter is fucked up apparently.

 

So, I switched to using RivaTuner fps limiter and that works like a charm.  But, if I cap my frames at 45, the breast pingpong thing happens consistently.  If I cap at 50, it only jitters sometimes.  Likewise, if I cap at 30 it never happens, and if I cap at 35 it only sometimes happens.  Capping at 45fps seems to be the worst number for my pc in terms of breast jitter, but I don't have a clue why.  Anytime my character moves around, turns sharply, etc. when capped anywhere between 40-50fps, the breasts ALWAYS jitter, but anything above or below that it seems to do well.

 

I also seem to have less fps stutter since turning off the enblocal.ini fps limiter and using RivaTuner.  Hope this helps someone.  All this hassle with tweaking Skyrim LE makes me wonder if I should just move to Skyrim SE.

[tsnootch]

58 minutes ago, Dudemer said:

I was ask about how to setup a custom shlong one might come across on loverslab. I'm currently running with one of EvilReFlex SOS addons that's why I was asking.

There is no difference in setting up "custom schlongs" for Cosio than any other body.  You need to use bodyslide and move the schlong around a bit so that it doesn't clip into the vagina.  As far as textures, EvilReflex has textures I think that match with Leyanda body textures.  Another trick is to use a 3d pubic hair mod, like the one included with Cosio to help "hide" the texture mismatching that might occur between the body and schlong.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, tsnootch said:

In the spoiler below was the post I just made, but I just did some testing and updated my post below the spoiler.

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Firstly, let me say I love the breast motion and how they seem to move.

 

But, I have a problem that I hope can be solved with some tweaks to the hdtPhysicsExtensionDefaultBBP.xml.

 

Let me define some terms so that my request will make sense:

A.  When I say "breast spaz" I am referring to fps-related problems that might cause the breasts to go nuts for a few seconds (this is not the problem for me). 

B.  When I say "breast ping ponging" I am referring to when the breasts violently "ping pong" or shake quickly back and forth within a contained space for a moment (usually side to side and without losing their shape) when changing movement direction, or turning around quickly, etc.  It's as if they got caught momentarily in something, and then angrily break free for a moment, then return to normal behavior.

 

The problem I am having is with "breast ping ponging."  Prior to 5.5, I think I was using the Cosio FullHDT from 5.2 or 5.3....I can't remember.  Nevertheless, the breasts doesn't do that ping ponging thing with those old .xml's.  But now with 5.5, I am using Cosio FullHDT.  I LOVE the way the breasts move, but they ping pong so much now.  I cap my frames at 30 now, I don't use ENB, and don't have lots of heavy script mods.  I have tried all the breast related sliders, and even zeroed out the body and started a new game to test it.

 

It does this ping ponging thing no matter what I do now, but it seems much, much worse when the breasts are smaller.  Larger breasts don't seem to do this as much.

 

So, are there any values in the .xml that I can change to limit them from doing this?

 

So, I did some more testing and noticed something funny:  the frame limiter in enblocal.ini doesn't work consistently for me and this "breast ping ponging" issue made me notice the fps fluctuations more while trying to fix my problem, as described above.

 

I have seen scivrus, many times, explain to people that you either need to maintain 60fps or cap at 30fps.  Anything in between causes problems for physics.  So, weeks ago, I started capping my frames at 30 and then 45 with enblocal.ini.  I just noticed that, for me anyways, it often stops working and allows the frames to go up to 60 when in interior spaces AND when looking in consistent directions inside those interior cells.  For example, I was in my home, and I ran in one direction and anytime my character faced that direction, the enblocal.ini fps limiter would allow up to 60 fps, even though I capped it at 45 for testing.  Then, when I would turn around and run in another direction, the limiter would kick back in and cap at 45 again.  It does this every single time I looked in different directions.  I reloaded my game several times, made a new character and went back to that cell, same thing happened.  So, this is why I was finding it so difficult to get the breasts to calm down...because enblocal's fps limiter is fucked up apparently.

 

So, I switched to using RivaTuner fps limiter and that works like a charm.  But, if I cap my frames at 45, the breast pingpong thing happens consistently.  If I cap at 50, it only jitters sometimes.  Likewise, if I cap at 30 it never happens, and if I cap at 35 it only sometimes happens.  Capping at 45fps seems to be the worst number for my pc in terms of breast jitter, but I don't have a clue why.  Anytime my character moves around, turns sharply, etc. when capped anywhere between 40-50fps, the breasts ALWAYS jitter, but anything above or below that it seems to do well.

 

I also seem to have less fps stutter since turning off the enblocal.ini fps limiter and using RivaTuner.  Hope this helps someone.  All this hassle with tweaking Skyrim LE makes me wonder if I should just move to Skyrim SE.

THis topic has been  talk about to Death  is Just simply Havok not able to handle  a lot of Physics yes FPS has lot to do with it  because it is tide into everyting>>when an NPC spawns into a cell it will spawn first in the center of that cell then gets moved to its proper place  havoks want to place the  hdt bones  also but normally at a wrong place because  it retarded by CPU being  temp over loaded  and i am talking about  a tiny  delay of  millisecond ...to many scripted mods  to many hdt mods   not enough ram or vram  or CPU to  slow all will cause  this ..cant really get away from this ...the fact me released a new version and having  this problem is coincidental ..i did nothing to the xml that will cause more cpu strain  ,  only when and where it should stop calculating physics ..and it has corrected the  problem it was indented to fix ..

 

.i do appreciate you testing this .i wish there was a solution ...its not Cosio  that has this problem  many other hdt mods have it .SMP  is even worse in some cases....

 

PS i have been tweaking ini files ..and been using  Enb to generate Shadows and not  skyrim engine ..it seems  shadows are prosesed by Cpu and not teh GPU ..ENB  shadows are  done by GPU  though .....also have  a 8 core CPU will not make a difference as game only use one

[tsnootch]

5 hours ago, scivirus said:

PS i have been tweaking ini files ..and been using  Enb to generate Shadows and not  skyrim engine ..it seems  shadows are prosesed by Cpu and not teh GPU ..ENB  shadows are  done by GPU  though .....also have  a 8 core CPU will not make a difference as game only use one

I'd be interested to know more about which settings specifically you tweaked concerning shadows.

 

Also, in Nvidia, do you use Adaptive or Prefer Max Performance for the power management mode?

[Guest]

5 hours ago, tsnootch said:

I'd be interested to know more about which settings specifically you tweaked concerning shadows.

 

Also, in Nvidia, do you use Adaptive or Prefer Max Performance for the power management mode?

so far the Shadow thing has not helped ..i leave Nvidia set ting alone on default .best result so far is the xml ..its still spaz but  atleast  NPC dont go invisible

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[JustFK]

I'm having a slight problem. I downloaded the main file and all the requirements. For whatever reason the body or anything from this mod shows up in bodyslide. Nothing just all empty  

[JustFK]

Kinda new to lovers lab mods and wondering if maybe there's an installation guide for clams?

[NoNickNeeded]

The only explanations I can think of are that CLAMS is overwritten by something else, the installation messed up or the downloaded archive was corrupted.

 

Are you using a Mod Manager (Nexus Mod Manager, Vortex, Mod Organizer 1 or 2, ect.) ?

If so, which one and did it throw any errors during the installation?

Does any mod with higher priority modify the female body in any way?

 

If you are installing manually, you can't just dump the files into the data folder. You have to pick and choose the files corresponding to the option you want and drop that onto the correct file-path. Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, I'd advise against this method. Better use a Mod Managing tool that can run the isntaller.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, JustFK said:

Kinda new to lovers lab mods and wondering if maybe there's an installation guide for clams?

Mo 1 is not compatible  with the fomod .. but you should have  noticed that

[Sam19823]

Sorry i asking this simple Question  

1 - i have dimonic , i just need to download dimonic patch or i must downlowd the main file frist ?

2 - cbbe must install befor this mode or not ? 

And sorry im bad on EN : D 

[悲しい少王女]

2 hours ago, Sam19823 said:

Sorry i asking this simple Question  

1 - i have dimonic , i just need to download dimonic patch or i must downlowd the main file frist ?

2 - cbbe must install befor this mode or not ? 

And sorry im bad on EN : D 

1. Main file + the patch of your choice.

2. Yes as far as I know but I might be wrong

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Sam19823 said:

Sorry i asking this simple Question  

1 - i have dimonic , i just need to download dimonic patch or i must downlowd the main file frist ?

2 - cbbe must install befor this mode or not ? 

And sorry im bad on EN : D 

get main file for  Demoniac 1.12 CBBE  then the  patch  for  it  ..you don't need CBBE unless you want  the   eyebrows and  overlays  that come with it

[JustFK]

6 hours ago, NoNickNeeded said:

The only explanations I can think of are that CLAMS is overwritten by something else, the installation messed up or the downloaded archive was corrupted.

 

Are you using a Mod Manager (Nexus Mod Manager, Vortex, Mod Organizer 1 or 2, ect.) ?

If so, which one and did it throw any errors during the installation?

Does any mod with higher priority modify the female body in any way?

 

If you are installing manually, you can't just dump the files into the data folder. You have to pick and choose the files corresponding to the option you want and drop that onto the correct file-path. Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, I'd advise against this method. Better use a Mod Managing tool that can run the isntaller.

I'm using Vortex and its says there are conflicting files with Bodyslide, HDT physics extended, sex labs, and sos. Also another note sos and Xp32 have conflicting for some reason too

[JustFK]

Nvm figured out the problem. My dumbass set body to launch from the staging folder and not where it actually is

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sam19823 said:

I install the mods and dimonic patch , i run fins and body silde i have HTD too , but Vagina and boobs it s really werid thay are not working well i dont wana look Vagina anymore XD . Can someone help me about that please 

use a Screen shot ..Most likely  you are not using  correct skeleton  ...remember its the XPMSE from Groovtiman

[Sam19823]

53 minutes ago, scivirus said:

use a Screen shot ..Most likely  you are not using  correct skeleton  ...remember its the XPMSE from Groovtiman

Yeah sorry i fix it ; )

[Shoneleven]

On 9/4/2019 at 3:41 AM, tsnootch said:

Oh, I like the way they droop slightly as they come to a stop.  The way the breasts move about as you move is incredible.  Definitely my favorite breast HDT movement so far.

 

With the belly node, what happened was as I moved around with a pregnant belly, the belly would seemingly get stuck in the larger breasts, and then stop moving into a very rigid pointy shape, sort of like a steep mountain instead of a gently rolling hill.  After I changed the values for "Radius" from 5.00000 to 2.00000 in the vagina.xml to be more like Naturalistic's HDT Belly and NPC belly values, the belly no longer deforms at all and holds its shape and never gets stuck in a pointy shape.  It also did not effect the pregnancy scaling at all and it has a nice shape on my character.  Don't know, but it seems to work for me.  My character is hard to balance properly because her belly and breast scaling goes from very small to very large from other mods like SGO, MME, EC+, etc.

 

As always, thanks for your incredible work!

 

Unrelated question:  is it possible to have breast movement that will allow the breasts to hang straight down when the character is horizontal to the ground?  Just like natural breasts hang straight down with gravity when a woman's back is horizontal to the ground?  Or is that beyond the limits of hdtphysics in skyrim?

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WHICH TOOL YOU ARE USING TO EDIT XML

[Shoneleven]

On 9/4/2019 at 3:41 AM, tsnootch said:

Oh, I like the way they droop slightly as they come to a stop.  The way the breasts move about as you move is incredible.  Definitely my favorite breast HDT movement so far.

 

With the belly node, what happened was as I moved around with a pregnant belly, the belly would seemingly get stuck in the larger breasts, and then stop moving into a very rigid pointy shape, sort of like a steep mountain instead of a gently rolling hill.  After I changed the values for "Radius" from 5.00000 to 2.00000 in the vagina.xml to be more like Naturalistic's HDT Belly and NPC belly values, the belly no longer deforms at all and holds its shape and never gets stuck in a pointy shape.  It also did not effect the pregnancy scaling at all and it has a nice shape on my character.  Don't know, but it seems to work for me.  My character is hard to balance properly because her belly and breast scaling goes from very small to very large from other mods like SGO, MME, EC+, etc.

 

As always, thanks for your incredible work!

 

Unrelated question:  is it possible to have breast movement that will allow the breasts to hang straight down when the character is horizontal to the ground?  Just like natural breasts hang straight down with gravity when a woman's back is horizontal to the ground?  Or is that beyond the limits of hdtphysics in skyrim?

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WHICH TOOL YOU ARE USING TO EDIT XML

[shaidien]

5 minutes ago, Shoneleven said:

WHICH TOOL YOU ARE USING TO EDIT XML

Use jff found here on LL.

 

[NoNickNeeded]

You don't necessarily need any tool. You can edit xml files with basically any text editor, including the windows editor, notepad or nano.

Of course using a tool makes it far more comfortable.

 

Notepad++ is a rather popular choice.

[saunai]

Will be there any SE ver?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, saunai said:

Will be there any SE ver?

there will be  but not in this current form because it uses CBBE assets and the Cbbe  crew  does not allow anything cbbe  with out thier permission  in SSE...i am working on a new Body and if successful will blow them all out of the water

[MantisPraying]

27 minutes ago, scivirus said:

there will be  but not in this current form because it uses CBBE assets and the Cbbe  crew  does not allow anything cbbe  with out thier permission  in SSE...i am working on a new Body and if successful will blow them all out of the water

Thank you very much

i wanted something like this in sse for so long