AnubiSs2167 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 For some reason nexus sees new version as 2.0 beta on my pc Everything works tho, thank you Rydin !
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 I probably haven't updated the fomod file. But if you go in game it does say updating to 2.3. As I said, rushed release. ;-;
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 Again, to anyone sending me PMs to add content. Don't do it. I will not answer. Just a general reminder. It's an unwritten rule that I will add content when I can. Got a question? Post it here. It's what the thread is for. Thank you to those who respect this. To answer a question, only the female start kissing animation will be added in the future. The stripping animations do not fit in NSAP.
Ixum Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Yaaay a huge thanks to Rydin and Leito, time to make some vids mwhaha
iggypop1 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 How does the mod decide which object to use in the new Leito animations? There don't seem to be options for soul gem or draugr for the vaginal animations. Is it random? If not, is there a way I can change the default object the animation uses?It's preset in the ESP. I added what was suitable to NSAP as it is a modders resource. I'd need to add a single animation call for each animation with each object and that would get messy. If you want to replace it, download Leito's resource and pull out the animobject for the draugr. Rename it so it matches the potion animobject filename inside the NSAP folder in data > meshes > animobject and it will work. Take note that the soulgem and tusk are dildos. The potion and draugr are toys. Don't replace the tusk or soulgem with the draugr or you will get odd results. I excluded the draugr as the most unimmersive item; all other items could be pulled from the player's inventory. Just to understand: The draugr is the big red Bottle potion right? It a shame you had to cut that IMO it was the best of the new Leito. I had it for testing was it the throne doggy? very naughty Thanks a lot anyway i enjoy very much
chajapa Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 rydin, The only issue I've found is that the 2 animations where she squats on the bottle.... the first stage repeats about 20 times before moving on to the next stage. I assumed this was because that stage (where she's first getting positioned over the bottle) must be very short and is repeating for whatever the time is set to in SexLab for that stage. The soulgem in the ass is.... interesting.... the horker tusk is.... disturbing. The horker tusk looks a bit small. Too bad there's not a slighly larger object available. A small potion bottle. A model of the soulgem plug that she can pleasure herself with. Something.... smoother... less pointy than a horker tusk. She's supposed to LIKE this! Other than the first stage repeat on the bottle animations, this looks great! And while the horker tusk isn't exactly my cup of tea, you can't be expected to accommodate everyone's particular kinks and I respect that.
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 rydin, The only issue I've found is that the 2 animations where she squats on the bottle.... the first stage repeats about 20 times before moving on to the next stage. I assumed this was because that stage (where she's first getting positioned over the bottle) must be very short and is repeating for whatever the time is set to in SexLab for that stage. The soulgem in the ass is.... interesting.... the horker tusk is.... disturbing. The horker tusk looks a bit small. Too bad there's not a slighly larger object available. A small potion bottle. A model of the soulgem plug that she can pleasure herself with. Something.... smoother... less pointy than a horker tusk. She's supposed to LIKE this! Other than the first stage repeat on the bottle animations, this looks great! And while the horker tusk isn't exactly my cup of tea, you can't be expected to accommodate everyone's particular kinks and I respect that. Oh, I meant to add a function to force that animation to play once. I said it was rushed, right? LOL I have only used what Leito has used. I will put up a guide for users on how to change the objects and I will pack the animobjects is a BSA file so if a user wants to use something different they won't need to change it at every upgrade. That way you can amend it to your likes.
magicrealm Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 rydin, The only issue I've found is that the 2 animations where she squats on the bottle.... the first stage repeats about 20 times before moving on to the next stage. I assumed this was because that stage (where she's first getting positioned over the bottle) must be very short and is repeating for whatever the time is set to in SexLab for that stage. The soulgem in the ass is.... interesting.... the horker tusk is.... disturbing. The horker tusk looks a bit small. Too bad there's not a slighly larger object available. A small potion bottle. A model of the soulgem plug that she can pleasure herself with. Something.... smoother... less pointy than a horker tusk. She's supposed to LIKE this! Other than the first stage repeat on the bottle animations, this looks great! And while the horker tusk isn't exactly my cup of tea, you can't be expected to accommodate everyone's particular kinks and I respect that. noticed that too, but however, this is damn HOT !
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 How does the mod decide which object to use in the new Leito animations? There don't seem to be options for soul gem or draugr for the vaginal animations. Is it random? If not, is there a way I can change the default object the animation uses?It's preset in the ESP. I added what was suitable to NSAP as it is a modders resource. I'd need to add a single animation call for each animation with each object and that would get messy. If you want to replace it, download Leito's resource and pull out the animobject for the draugr. Rename it so it matches the potion animobject filename inside the NSAP folder in data > meshes > animobject and it will work. Take note that the soulgem and tusk are dildos. The potion and draugr are toys. Don't replace the tusk or soulgem with the draugr or you will get odd results. I excluded the draugr as the most unimmersive item; all other items could be pulled from the player's inventory. Just to understand: The draugr is the big red Bottle potion right? It a shame you had to cut that IMO it was the best of the new Leito. I had it for testing was it the throne doggy? very naughty Thanks a lot anyway i enjoy very much Yeah Leito offered a potion bottle or a dead erect draugr. I picked the option that was the most immersive one (how do you explain a dead erect draugr appearing from nowhere?) I feel it could suit as a furniture object in dungeons and a simple nod could do that.
Snazzishoez Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 All the modders coming together to provide these animations to combine with S-Lab Framework is really amazing. Thank you for keeping NSAP up to date so often. It's a lot of fun to use. You're really patient with questions you're asked here too. You seem nice. Thanks again Rydin.
iggypop1 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 ????????? so the bottle animation is in the new pack..... tried to cycle through them(masturbation) but never got to see them...! I ticked the 4 in the Leiyothrone part of the pack and they register in SL did i do something wrong? Ok turned all the other masturbation off and then i got it.. As above the firs face is broken and i got some clipping on the vaginal one(for Leito) Is it so that there is a certain amount of tagged animations available to cycle through? when all masturbations options are turned on i never got the toy-ones..... Another thing can you make this work with SexlabUtil? I use the light function in that because of my ENB
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 ????????? so the bottle animation is in the new pack..... tried to cycle through them(masturbation) but never got to see them...! I ticked the 4 in the Leiyothrone part of the pack and they register in SL did i do something wrong? Ok turned all the other masturbation off and then i got it.. As above the firs face is broken and i got some clipping on the vaginal one(for Leito) Is it so that there is a certain amount of tagged animations available to cycle through? when all masturbations options are turned on i never got the toy-ones..... Another thing can you make this work with SexlabUtil? I use the light function in that because of my ENB I don't think the bottles are tagged masturbation right now as they are NOT masturbation animations. Also, i don't work with SexLabUtil and i don't know what it has to do with ENBs. Sorru
iggypop1 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 ????????? so the bottle animation is in the new pack..... tried to cycle through them(masturbation) but never got to see them...! I ticked the 4 in the Leiyothrone part of the pack and they register in SL did i do something wrong? Ok turned all the other masturbation off and then i got it.. As above the firs face is broken and i got some clipping on the vaginal one(for Leito) Is it so that there is a certain amount of tagged animations available to cycle through? when all masturbations options are turned on i never got the toy-ones..... Another thing can you make this work with SexlabUtil? I use the light function in that because of my ENB I don't think the bottles are tagged masturbation right now as they are NOT masturbation animations. Also, i don't work with SexLabUtil and i don't know what it has to do with ENBs. Sorru Using my N button(aroused masturbation) i get the animation anyway Ok sorry its because my game is very dark with that ENB(is it not called that?....hm) so i use a light function in sexlabutil from start to end of sex,to be able see the animations, very handy in dark places
chajapa Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 ????????? so the bottle animation is in the new pack..... tried to cycle through them(masturbation) but never got to see them...! I ticked the 4 in the Leiyothrone part of the pack and they register in SL did i do something wrong? Ok turned all the other masturbation off and then i got it.. As above the firs face is broken and i got some clipping on the vaginal one(for Leito) Is it so that there is a certain amount of tagged animations available to cycle through? when all masturbations options are turned on i never got the toy-ones..... Another thing can you make this work with SexlabUtil? I use the light function in that because of my ENB I don't think the bottles are tagged masturbation right now as they are NOT masturbation animations. Also, i don't work with SexLabUtil and i don't know what it has to do with ENBs. Sorru I haven't looked, but I would tend to disagree. I think they ARE masturbations because if I use matchmaker and just cast Irresistable Aura on myself, it only plays masturbation animations (you're.... by yourself!) . And I get all 4 of the new toy and dildo animations by doing this... along with like 3 other female masturbation animations that I have enabled. OK, I just looked at the tags. The 2 Dildo animations have tags "Solo" and "Masturbation" The 2 Toy animations have tag "Solo" but do not have "Masturbation" All 4 animations have tag "SexToy" So if you just pull animations by tag "Masturbation", you won't get the 2 new ones that have her doing squats on a bottle, but you WILL get the 2 new animations where she uses a soul gem in her ass or a horker tusk in her pussy to masturbate. Rydin, I'd tend to leave them as they are (my opinion). I mean... they could... all 4 of them... be considered masturbation, but you have a choice to pull them using "Solo" and "SexToy" to get them all or using "Masturbation" to get just the 2 non-bottle animations. Kind of a toss-up actually. I could see this going either way. If you're bringing yourself to orgasm, whether it's with a soul gem, a tusk, or a bottle... then you're masturbating. So maybe they should ALL be tagged with "Masturbation" tag.
Guest Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Hello @chajapa, I do not agree. "Masturbation" - Self sex act, not including toys"SexToy" - For animations including a sextoy anim object (dildo, bottle, whatever-you-want) Cosider an animation with two positions, where the submissive position (the first usually) receives attention from the active postion (the second) using a sex toy.Will this be a "masturbation"? Not in my mind. Please help on the thread setup to better define the tags: Proposition for better animation selection
chajapa Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Hello @chajapa, I do not agree. "Masturbation" - Self sex act, not including toys "SexToy" - For animations including a sextoy anim object (dildo, bottle, whatever-you-want) Cosider an animation with two positions, where the submissive position (the first usually) receives attention from the active postion (the second) using a sex toy. Will this be a "masturbation"? Not in my mind. Please help on the thread setup to better define the tags: Proposition for better animation selection BZZZzzzt! WRONG! heheheheh Webster's Dictionary Definition of MASTURBATION : erotic stimulation especially of one's own genital organs commonly resulting in orgasm and achieved by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of sexual intercourse, by instrumental manipulation, occasionally by sexual fantasies, or by various combinations of these agencies Getting yourself off using a sex toy is still Masturbating. Actually... I'm fine with however it's tagged. Rydin is paying far more attention to this stuff than I am so whatever is decided will be fine, I'm sure. I just provide opinion and facts to back them up.... most of the time.
Guest Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Ambiguity will not help to write better mods. How you want to select a potential animation? Randomly? Why not just use a single tag called: sex. Will cover all cases. Edit: I apologize for my bad answer.
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 The problem is, everyone has a different idea what masturbation entails. If you take the wikipedia definition: Masturbation is the sexual stimulation of one's own genitals for sexual arousal or other sexual pleasure, usually to the point of orgasm.The stimulation may involve hands, fingers, everyday objects, sex toys or combinations of these. The main reason I didn't NOT include it is because looking at the animations, I didn't see much masturbation. When I think about itnow in more details though, the vaginal ones can be used as masturbation as the character is stimulating their sexual genitails. But for the anal ones, can it be classed as masturbation as the anus is not a sexual genital and the character doesn't seem to touch themselves in the genitail area? THey may get sexual arousal from it but it's not masturbation, it's just sexual play.
iggypop1 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 If its solo and it leads to orgasm then its Masturbation and who says the ass is not a sexual organ? !f ass stimulation/penetration gives orgasm?
Guest Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 My point is: how to correctly define tags to allow modders to get the animations using tags. I wish all animations of a single actor doing masturbation non using a toy: requredTag="solo" and avoidTag="SexToy" should be fine. BUt actually "solo" is not useful, because the number of actors will be 1. The same applied to "masturbation". But. I wish an animation where an actor provide pleasure to another actor without having a full sex act (no penetration): what the tags should be? Masturbation? Probably we need tags to identify the "involved part" (pussy, ass, tits, feet, hands, etc.) and something to identify if it is a "masturbation like" animation (handjobs, footjobs) or "a little bit more" animation (penis/pussy, penis/ass, etc.) Please do not answer here. Use the specific topic. Give @rydin a break.
rydin Posted April 11, 2015 Author Posted April 11, 2015 If its solo and it leads to orgasm then its Masturbation and who says the ass is not a sexual organ? !f ass stimulation/penetration gives orgasm? The anus by biological standard is not a sexual organ. You may get sexually arousal from being anally pentrated but it is not a sexual orgasm.
chajapa Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 If its solo and it leads to orgasm then its Masturbation and who says the ass is not a sexual organ? !f ass stimulation/penetration gives orgasm? The anus by biological standard is not a sexual organ. You may get sexually arousal from being anally pentrated but it is not a sexual orgasm. Apparently you've never had your prostate milked! Hahahahaha... It surely DOES cause orgasm and ejaculation. Anyways.... this is symantics. Rydin is authoring and doing a very responsible job with this. Nice thing about opinions.... we've all got them. Rydin, if you just do what you feel is best, then I think that's all anyone can ask. And I applaud you for your patience dealing with the whole tagging issue. It's a huge pain in the ass (and MAY lead to orgasm!) and I respect you for handling it while trying to get these animations into the game. If I had a third thumb, you'd get 3 thumbs up.... but 2 is all I got.
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