{REDUNDANT} Non SexLab Animation Pack

[theshiba]

Hello @theshiba, usually, after both SexLab and NSAL are installed you can go in the SexLab debug menu and refresh the Animation registry. This may resolve the problem (common when the other animations are working well.)

Please keep in mind that if you are using SexLab 1.59c there is a limit of about 128 anims that can be handled by SexLab. Extra animation will not register.

 

Thanks for the response @CPU. I've refreshed the animation registry in the past (and just now), but the NPC and my character continue to freeze when a NSL animation starts. If I'm reading my papyrus log correctly I should only have the 61 Human/Anthro animations that come with SexLab (1.59c) +  the 51 additional Creature animations registered (112 total). The animation problem still persists even when one NSL animation is registered.

[rydin]

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet and hopefully, this is the right place to put it but I think I found a temporary work-around for the 'furniture getting suck to actor' bug: jumping. Yeah jumping. Just hit the ' ] '  key while your animation is going and it should free you for about 7 seconds before the animation starts again. In that time, just hit the jump key (or button if you play on a game pad like the cool kids) and it should shake the items right off you! Also remember 3 things:

1.) This is just a work-around, not a fix.

2.) Always advance to an animation set that doesn't include a furniture item in it's animation before you do this. I don't know what happens when you try this with one and I don't want to know.

3.) Sometimes, the camera is taken out of 'flying mode' when the animation resets. Just type in 'tfc' (without quotations) into the console command screen.

 

tl;dr

Hit the ']' key and jump.

 

 

Yup. Mentioned LOAD of times. I really should put it somewhere.

 

Hello @theshiba, usually, after both SexLab and NSAL are installed you can go in the SexLab debug menu and refresh the Animation registry. This may resolve the problem (common when the other animations are working well.)

Please keep in mind that if you are using SexLab 1.59c there is a limit of about 128 anims that can be handled by SexLab. Extra animation will not register.

 

Thanks for the response @CPU. I've refreshed the animation registry in the past (and just now), but the NPC and my character continue to freeze when a NSL animation starts. If I'm reading my papyrus log correctly I should only have the 61 Human/Anthro animations that come with SexLab (1.59c) +  the 51 additional Creature animations registered (112 total). The animation problem still persists even when one NSL animation is registered.

 

 

Sicne you said you are using Mod Organizer, have you

 

- made sure SexLab is on higher priority to NSAP

- ran FNIS then turned your new overwrite files from FNIS into a new mod?

 

The previous user never got back to me, but looking at thier screenshot, that normally suggests the NSAP has not been correctly isntalled, FNIS has not correctly been updated or the overwrite files have not been updated/saved correctly. Running FNIS on it's own in MO will not work.

 

If you created a mod with the overwrite files, my best advice would be to untick that (cause having more than one can cause issues but don't delete until you have fixed the issues) and create a new one. Ie. if you called it "Overwrite Files Mod" then call a new one "Overwrite Files Mod 2". Make sure the second one is ticked and the first one is unticked in MO as if they are both ticked one will override the other.

 

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In other news, final word has been given from Ashal of what is moving to 1.60 and what is not so I will start working on 3.0 to take these changes into account. My plan is to ideally have 3.0 go live when Sexlab 1.60 goes out (if I am finished in time). We will be jumping to 3.0 as there will be new scripts added to help with registration and sorting in the new version for NSAP if all goes well. If not wi will shift only to 2.4. The current version will be left in tact for people who do not upgrade to 1.60 to have the current animations, but no new aniamtions will be added to this version in the future.

[Weetold]

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet and hopefully, this is the right place to put it but I think I found a temporary work-around for the 'furniture getting suck to actor' bug: jumping. Yeah jumping. Just hit the ' ] '  key while your animation is going and it should free you for about 7 seconds before the animation starts again. In that time, just hit the jump key (or button if you play on a game pad like the cool kids) and it should shake the items right off you! Also remember 3 things:

1.) This is just a work-around, not a fix.

2.) Always advance to an animation set that doesn't include a furniture item in it's animation before you do this. I don't know what happens when you try this with one and I don't want to know.

3.) Sometimes, the camera is taken out of 'flying mode' when the animation resets. Just type in 'tfc' (without quotations) into the console command screen.

 

tl;dr

Hit the ']' key and jump.

 

 

A much simpler way to remove the furniture is to advance the animation all the way to the cum/finish stage, and then cycling to another animation.

 

[theshiba]

 

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet and hopefully, this is the right place to put it but I think I found a temporary work-around for the 'furniture getting suck to actor' bug: jumping. Yeah jumping. Just hit the ' ] '  key while your animation is going and it should free you for about 7 seconds before the animation starts again. In that time, just hit the jump key (or button if you play on a game pad like the cool kids) and it should shake the items right off you! Also remember 3 things:

1.) This is just a work-around, not a fix.

2.) Always advance to an animation set that doesn't include a furniture item in it's animation before you do this. I don't know what happens when you try this with one and I don't want to know.

3.) Sometimes, the camera is taken out of 'flying mode' when the animation resets. Just type in 'tfc' (without quotations) into the console command screen.

 

tl;dr

Hit the ']' key and jump.

 

 

Yup. Mentioned LOAD of times. I really should put it somewhere.

 

Hello @theshiba, usually, after both SexLab and NSAL are installed you can go in the SexLab debug menu and refresh the Animation registry. This may resolve the problem (common when the other animations are working well.)

Please keep in mind that if you are using SexLab 1.59c there is a limit of about 128 anims that can be handled by SexLab. Extra animation will not register.

 

Thanks for the response @CPU. I've refreshed the animation registry in the past (and just now), but the NPC and my character continue to freeze when a NSL animation starts. If I'm reading my papyrus log correctly I should only have the 61 Human/Anthro animations that come with SexLab (1.59c) +  the 51 additional Creature animations registered (112 total). The animation problem still persists even when one NSL animation is registered.

 

 

Sicne you said you are using Mod Organizer, have you

 

- made sure SexLab is on higher priority to NSAP

- ran FNIS then turned your new overwrite files from FNIS into a new mod?

 

The previous user never got back to me, but looking at thier screenshot, that normally suggests the NSAP has not been correctly isntalled, FNIS has not correctly been updated or the overwrite files have not been updated/saved correctly. Running FNIS on it's own in MO will not work.

 

If you created a mod with the overwrite files, my best advice would be to untick that (cause having more than one can cause issues but don't delete until you have fixed the issues) and create a new one. Ie. if you called it "Overwrite Files Mod" then call a new one "Overwrite Files Mod 2". Make sure the second one is ticked and the first one is unticked in MO as if they are both ticked one will override the other.

 

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In other news, final word has been given from Ashal of what is moving to 1.60 and what is not so I will start working on 3.0 to take these changes into account. My plan is to ideally have 3.0 go live when Sexlab 1.60 goes out (if I am finished in time). We will be jumping to 3.0 as there will be new scripts added to help with registration and sorting in the new version for NSAP if all goes well. If not wi will shift only to 2.4. The current version will be left in tact for people who do not upgrade to 1.60 to have the current animations, but no new aniamtions will be added to this version in the future.

 

 

Hi @rydin; thank you for taking the time to help me. To answer your first two questions:

- Yes, I've always ensured that SexLab has a higher priority than NSAP.

- And yes, I've always created a mod from the overwrite files generated after running FNIS (I've named mine FNIS - Patch).

 

As to proper installation of FNIS, I've always followed the procedures of GamerPoets on YouTube. I did try your suggestion of making a second overwrite mod. Unfortunately, that didn't resolve the issue. I will, however, try (carefully) reinstalling NSAP and FNIS again.

 

I've also attached my load order and overwrites from MO.

[rydin]

 

 

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet and hopefully, this is the right place to put it but I think I found a temporary work-around for the 'furniture getting suck to actor' bug: jumping. Yeah jumping. Just hit the ' ] '  key while your animation is going and it should free you for about 7 seconds before the animation starts again. In that time, just hit the jump key (or button if you play on a game pad like the cool kids) and it should shake the items right off you! Also remember 3 things:

1.) This is just a work-around, not a fix.

2.) Always advance to an animation set that doesn't include a furniture item in it's animation before you do this. I don't know what happens when you try this with one and I don't want to know.

3.) Sometimes, the camera is taken out of 'flying mode' when the animation resets. Just type in 'tfc' (without quotations) into the console command screen.

 

tl;dr

Hit the ']' key and jump.

 

 

Yup. Mentioned LOAD of times. I really should put it somewhere.

 

Hello @theshiba, usually, after both SexLab and NSAL are installed you can go in the SexLab debug menu and refresh the Animation registry. This may resolve the problem (common when the other animations are working well.)

Please keep in mind that if you are using SexLab 1.59c there is a limit of about 128 anims that can be handled by SexLab. Extra animation will not register.

 

Thanks for the response @CPU. I've refreshed the animation registry in the past (and just now), but the NPC and my character continue to freeze when a NSL animation starts. If I'm reading my papyrus log correctly I should only have the 61 Human/Anthro animations that come with SexLab (1.59c) +  the 51 additional Creature animations registered (112 total). The animation problem still persists even when one NSL animation is registered.

 

 

Sicne you said you are using Mod Organizer, have you

 

- made sure SexLab is on higher priority to NSAP

- ran FNIS then turned your new overwrite files from FNIS into a new mod?

 

The previous user never got back to me, but looking at thier screenshot, that normally suggests the NSAP has not been correctly isntalled, FNIS has not correctly been updated or the overwrite files have not been updated/saved correctly. Running FNIS on it's own in MO will not work.

 

If you created a mod with the overwrite files, my best advice would be to untick that (cause having more than one can cause issues but don't delete until you have fixed the issues) and create a new one. Ie. if you called it "Overwrite Files Mod" then call a new one "Overwrite Files Mod 2". Make sure the second one is ticked and the first one is unticked in MO as if they are both ticked one will override the other.

 

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In other news, final word has been given from Ashal of what is moving to 1.60 and what is not so I will start working on 3.0 to take these changes into account. My plan is to ideally have 3.0 go live when Sexlab 1.60 goes out (if I am finished in time). We will be jumping to 3.0 as there will be new scripts added to help with registration and sorting in the new version for NSAP if all goes well. If not wi will shift only to 2.4. The current version will be left in tact for people who do not upgrade to 1.60 to have the current animations, but no new aniamtions will be added to this version in the future.

 

 

Hi @rydin; thank you for taking the time to help me. To answer your first two questions:

- Yes, I've always ensured that SexLab has a higher priority than NSAP.

- And yes, I've always created a mod from the overwrite files generated after running FNIS (I've named mine FNIS - Patch).

 

As to proper installation of FNIS, I've always followed the procedures of GamerPoets on YouTube. I did try your suggestion of making a second overwrite mod. Unfortunately, that didn't resolve the issue. I will, however, try (carefully) reinstalling NSAP and FNIS again.

 

I've also attached my load order and overwrites from MO.

 

 

Hmmm. I have it setup in MO, so it's definately something we are missing. What are the FNIS results after you run it?

 

[Nite_Star]

Well all I can say, is that any person who can animate is my friend. Think its a excellent thing that they take there time and do animations for us. agree if not for Ashal these would at the moment be pointless. fore is also a credit as to what he has done to make all this possible, and these animations that are mentioned of this thread get a thumbs up from me, but not all can be satisfied. Keep up the excellent job you are doing, might have some suggestions for you at a later date..

[theshiba]

 

 

 

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet and hopefully, this is the right place to put it but I think I found a temporary work-around for the 'furniture getting suck to actor' bug: jumping. Yeah jumping. Just hit the ' ] '  key while your animation is going and it should free you for about 7 seconds before the animation starts again. In that time, just hit the jump key (or button if you play on a game pad like the cool kids) and it should shake the items right off you! Also remember 3 things:

1.) This is just a work-around, not a fix.

2.) Always advance to an animation set that doesn't include a furniture item in it's animation before you do this. I don't know what happens when you try this with one and I don't want to know.

3.) Sometimes, the camera is taken out of 'flying mode' when the animation resets. Just type in 'tfc' (without quotations) into the console command screen.

 

tl;dr

Hit the ']' key and jump.

 

 

Yup. Mentioned LOAD of times. I really should put it somewhere.

 

Hello @theshiba, usually, after both SexLab and NSAL are installed you can go in the SexLab debug menu and refresh the Animation registry. This may resolve the problem (common when the other animations are working well.)

Please keep in mind that if you are using SexLab 1.59c there is a limit of about 128 anims that can be handled by SexLab. Extra animation will not register.

 

Thanks for the response @CPU. I've refreshed the animation registry in the past (and just now), but the NPC and my character continue to freeze when a NSL animation starts. If I'm reading my papyrus log correctly I should only have the 61 Human/Anthro animations that come with SexLab (1.59c) +  the 51 additional Creature animations registered (112 total). The animation problem still persists even when one NSL animation is registered.

 

 

Sicne you said you are using Mod Organizer, have you

 

- made sure SexLab is on higher priority to NSAP

- ran FNIS then turned your new overwrite files from FNIS into a new mod?

 

The previous user never got back to me, but looking at thier screenshot, that normally suggests the NSAP has not been correctly isntalled, FNIS has not correctly been updated or the overwrite files have not been updated/saved correctly. Running FNIS on it's own in MO will not work.

 

If you created a mod with the overwrite files, my best advice would be to untick that (cause having more than one can cause issues but don't delete until you have fixed the issues) and create a new one. Ie. if you called it "Overwrite Files Mod" then call a new one "Overwrite Files Mod 2". Make sure the second one is ticked and the first one is unticked in MO as if they are both ticked one will override the other.

 

-------------

 

In other news, final word has been given from Ashal of what is moving to 1.60 and what is not so I will start working on 3.0 to take these changes into account. My plan is to ideally have 3.0 go live when Sexlab 1.60 goes out (if I am finished in time). We will be jumping to 3.0 as there will be new scripts added to help with registration and sorting in the new version for NSAP if all goes well. If not wi will shift only to 2.4. The current version will be left in tact for people who do not upgrade to 1.60 to have the current animations, but no new aniamtions will be added to this version in the future.

 

 

Hi @rydin; thank you for taking the time to help me. To answer your first two questions:

- Yes, I've always ensured that SexLab has a higher priority than NSAP.

- And yes, I've always created a mod from the overwrite files generated after running FNIS (I've named mine FNIS - Patch).

 

As to proper installation of FNIS, I've always followed the procedures of GamerPoets on YouTube. I did try your suggestion of making a second overwrite mod. Unfortunately, that didn't resolve the issue. I will, however, try (carefully) reinstalling NSAP and FNIS again.

 

I've also attached my load order and overwrites from MO.

 

 

Hmmm. I have it setup in MO, so it's definately something we are missing. What are the FNIS results after you run it?

 

 

This is what I get after running FNIS.

 

 

[rydin]

Still can't see anything wrong theshiba. Thought, I assume that the FNIS patch 2 is what you created after I asked you too? What is in the files that are being overwritten as MO in those screenshots saying something is overwritten in the patch file.

 

Also, when you run an aniamtion, what exactly happens? Do the characters just stand there? have you tried switching animations b pressing the default 'o' key? I assume it's EVERY NSAP animation, right?

[draeneis]

I had what might be a similar problem after I had one of the earliest versions of this mod installed and I did not clean save without it before upgrading a while ago. I could be remembering that wrong, but uninstall it all and sit around in game for a bit then save then try again. That's my advice good luck. Thanks for making this rydin, it works for me!

[theshiba]

Still can't see anything wrong theshiba. Thought, I assume that the FNIS patch 2 is what you created after I asked you too? What is in the files that are being overwritten as MO in those screenshots saying something is overwritten in the patch file.

 

Also, when you run an aniamtion, what exactly happens? Do the characters just stand there? have you tried switching animations b pressing the default 'o' key? I assume it's EVERY NSAP animation, right?

 

Yes, FNIS Patch 2 was made after your suggestion. And it looks like defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx are being overwritten by the Bashed Patch (picture below).

 

 

Also, I've tried many of the NSL animations (switching between them using the 'o' key) , and they all start with the characters undressing then standing completely still. The characters then slide toward one another quickly until the characters occupy the same space (one is superimposed on the other). When I switch between animations or allow the animations to switch between scenes, only the characters' mouths move or, in the case of male characters, the erections move.

[zaira]

I have a simple feature request : a button to enable / disable all as bulk - there are so many checkboxes in your MCM...

Or store the selection via JsonUtils so it is restored even in new games.

[Monoman1]

+1 for the enable all. Or enable all per page.

[Weetold]

I have a simple feature request : a button to enable / disable all as bulk - there are so many checkboxes in your MCM...

Or store the selection via JsonUtils so it is restored even in new games.

 

This would be nice. Or just have them all enabled by default.

[TnTTnT]

Already requested, seem like rydin forgot to put it in his update list. 

[rydin]

I have a simple feature request : a button to enable / disable all as bulk - there are so many checkboxes in your MCM...

Or store the selection via JsonUtils so it is restored even in new games.

 

Sorry, this won't be added for now. In the current set up on SexLab, very few people will be able to use the "add as bulk" due to them going over the SexLab limit, so it's a pointless feature right now. Also with 85% of these animations being imported to SexLab, it will be a feature I will consider in the future when/if NSAP fills up again.

 

This would be nice. Or just have them all enabled by default.

 

The point of the feature is you select what you want to help you with the current SexLab limit.

 

_{I have to do the all hard work mantain the mod. So I'm leaving you all to do some work selecting them. Only fair, right?}

[rydin]

 

Still can't see anything wrong theshiba. Thought, I assume that the FNIS patch 2 is what you created after I asked you too? What is in the files that are being overwritten as MO in those screenshots saying something is overwritten in the patch file.

 

Also, when you run an aniamtion, what exactly happens? Do the characters just stand there? have you tried switching animations b pressing the default 'o' key? I assume it's EVERY NSAP animation, right?

 

Yes, FNIS Patch 2 was made after your suggestion. And it looks like defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx are being overwritten by the Bashed Patch (picture below).

 

conflicts.PNG

 

Also, I've tried many of the NSL animations (switching between them using the 'o' key) , and they all start with the characters undressing then standing completely still. The characters then slide toward one another quickly until the characters occupy the same space (one is superimposed on the other). When I switch between animations or allow the animations to switch between scenes, only the characters' mouths move or, in the case of male characters, the erections move.

 

 

Currently at the moment I am not sure what to tell you. You seem to be doing everything correctly. When other people had this issue, it was due to not re-running FNIS and adding the new overwrite files and that normally fixed the problem. Cause what it sounds like is that your game knows that the ESP and scripts are there to register them, but cannot find the animations to play them with. You'd get a T-Pose regardless of animations if it couldn;t find the behaviour file.

 

Open up the NSAP mod and check the directory is set correctly. Check the aniamtion folder is in your mod folder through using Windows File Explorer. Should be like this:

 

C:\[PATH TO SKYRIM DIRECTORY]\Skyrim\Mod Organizer\mods\[WHATEVER YOU CALL NSAP]\meshes\actors\character\animations\NonSexLabAnimationPack\

 

Also check the file tree in MO. Does it look like this?

[theshiba]

Yep, both the filepath and tree look correct. I may just do a reinstall of the game and see if that helps. Anyway, thanks for helping me regardless,rydin.

[WaxenFigure]

 

Still can't see anything wrong theshiba. Thought, I assume that the FNIS patch 2 is what you created after I asked you too? What is in the files that are being overwritten as MO in those screenshots saying something is overwritten in the patch file.

 

Also, when you run an aniamtion, what exactly happens? Do the characters just stand there? have you tried switching animations b pressing the default 'o' key? I assume it's EVERY NSAP animation, right?

 

Yes, FNIS Patch 2 was made after your suggestion. And it looks like defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx are being overwritten by the Bashed Patch (picture below).

 

conflicts.PNG

 

Also, I've tried many of the NSL animations (switching between them using the 'o' key) , and they all start with the characters undressing then standing completely still. The characters then slide toward one another quickly until the characters occupy the same space (one is superimposed on the other). When I switch between animations or allow the animations to switch between scenes, only the characters' mouths move or, in the case of male characters, the erections move.

 

Emphasis added, you have identified the problem. Disable those two files from the Bashed Patch.

 

FNIS regenerates those files when you run it but if the bashed patch is overwriting the newly generated ones from FNIS then they never get updated and as you have seen things just don't work.

[rydin]

The furniture animations load when selecting to use a nearby bed.  furnature_on_bed.jpg

 

No fix for that till SexLab 1.60. The work around? Don't use beds as sex locations or don't play furnitures. Hence the warning.

 

 

 

Still can't see anything wrong theshiba. Thought, I assume that the FNIS patch 2 is what you created after I asked you too? What is in the files that are being overwritten as MO in those screenshots saying something is overwritten in the patch file.

 

Also, when you run an aniamtion, what exactly happens? Do the characters just stand there? have you tried switching animations b pressing the default 'o' key? I assume it's EVERY NSAP animation, right?

 

Yes, FNIS Patch 2 was made after your suggestion. And it looks like defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx are being overwritten by the Bashed Patch (picture below).

 

conflicts.PNG

 

Also, I've tried many of the NSL animations (switching between them using the 'o' key) , and they all start with the characters undressing then standing completely still. The characters then slide toward one another quickly until the characters occupy the same space (one is superimposed on the other). When I switch between animations or allow the animations to switch between scenes, only the characters' mouths move or, in the case of male characters, the erections move.

 

Emphasis added, you have identified the problem. Disable those two files from the Bashed Patch.

 

FNIS regenerates those files when you run it but if the bashed patch is overwriting the newly generated ones from FNIS then they never get updated and as you have seen things just don't work.

 

 

I thought that could cause something but I dismissed it (yeah I'm still a noob i know i know). It that fixes it I'll keep it in mind.

[theshiba]

 

 

Still can't see anything wrong theshiba. Thought, I assume that the FNIS patch 2 is what you created after I asked you too? What is in the files that are being overwritten as MO in those screenshots saying something is overwritten in the patch file.

 

Also, when you run an aniamtion, what exactly happens? Do the characters just stand there? have you tried switching animations b pressing the default 'o' key? I assume it's EVERY NSAP animation, right?

 

Yes, FNIS Patch 2 was made after your suggestion. And it looks like defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx are being overwritten by the Bashed Patch (picture below).

 

conflicts.PNG

 

Also, I've tried many of the NSL animations (switching between them using the 'o' key) , and they all start with the characters undressing then standing completely still. The characters then slide toward one another quickly until the characters occupy the same space (one is superimposed on the other). When I switch between animations or allow the animations to switch between scenes, only the characters' mouths move or, in the case of male characters, the erections move.

 

Emphasis added, you have identified the problem. Disable those two files from the Bashed Patch.

 

FNIS regenerates those files when you run it but if the bashed patch is overwriting the newly generated ones from FNIS then they never get updated and as you have seen things just don't work.

 

 

Wow, that was the problem. Thank you @WaxenFigure! That solved my issue. Again, thank you  @rydin for getting me up to this point. You've been a big help. And one last thank you to @CPU for responding to my initial post.

 

Y'all are awesome

 

 

[WaxenFigure]

...

Y'all are awesome

That is Lovers Lab for you and why I like these forums.

[AvAcyn]

Ahoy, Can anyone can explain the correct way to make sure Dual Sheath Redux doesn't overwrite the defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx, Because everytime i run FNIS to make these animations work; they still get overwritten by 'DSR'.

 

-using mod organizer by the way-

 

[rydin]

Ahoy, Can anyone can explain the correct way to make sure Dual Sheath Redux doesn't overwrite the defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx, Because everytime i run FNIS to make these animations work; they still get overwritten by 'DSR'.

 

-using mod organizer by the way-

 

Can you not go into the mod and under file tree delete the items you don't wish to use?

[Konskript]

is there anyway you could bring back those table animations? or maybe include them seperately?

 

if not does anyone have a link to the version containing those anims?

[AvAcyn]

 

Ahoy, Can anyone can explain the correct way to make sure Dual Sheath Redux doesn't overwrite the defaultmale.hkx and defaultfemale.hkx, Because everytime i run FNIS to make these animations work; they still get overwritten by 'DSR'.

 

-using mod organizer by the way-

 

Can you not go into the mod and under file tree delete the items you don't wish to use?

 

 

Well for me at the moment: I can either use DSR or This because this mod for some reason replaces the default idles, which i don't understand because   all the other standard sexlab mods works fine with DSR / FNIS.