Devious Devices - Expansion

[Princessity]

 

Just got in-game and still trying stuff out.

Hobble dress + overburdened = strangeness. Sometimes I can move, sometimes I can't?

Further messing with,

hobble dress + overburdened + 3rd person view = no movement

hobble dress + overburdened + 1st person view = movement (very slow, but to be expected)

Once I start moving in 1st person, so long as I am holding down any movement key, I can switch to third person and keep moving.  Once I stop moving I get stuck again till I zoom into 1st person.

 

 

What kind of hobble dress? Extreme, relaxed or elegant?

 

Extreme has a prevention mechanism but we didn't think the other two needed it since they don't slow player down that much.

[Deuton]

Ok, i think i just figured out how that Bodyslide-thing works. Actually this seem to be pretty easy and fast, stupid me didn't expect this...

 

So here's what i did:

 

1. Open NMM

 

2. click "Supported Tools" (top right of toolbar), choose Bodyslide 2 there

 

3. choose Game (Skyrim in this case)

 

4. under "Present" Tab (second row on the top left) choose the body used (CBBE curvy, in my case)

 

5. check the "Build Morph"-Box in the lower left side (?; not sure but it's description makes sense)

 

6. click "Batch Build" in the lower left --> a window with a list of all the "clothing" opens

 

7. in this window everything is checked by default, so i left it this way (i'm not sure this is correct, because even already existing/fitting outfits were build again...)

 

8. next window, choose output (?; i choose standart CBBE (no undies and stuff) in the body section and non TBBP/HDT versions in the other sections, because i don't use any bouncing)

 

9. After processing is completed, close Bodyslide and start the game via NMM, the devices show up on my char now (yay!)

 

 

Some ideas, whether i did this correct? It seems to work so far, tested on a new char...

[pavelius_pavlentius]

I managed to fix my problem, thanks Princessity <3

[pincopallino]

Ok, i think i just figured out how that Bodyslide-thing works. Actually this seem to be pretty easy and fast, stupid me didn't expect this...

 

So here's what i did:

 

1. Open NMM

 

2. click "Supported Tools" (top right of toolbar), choose Bodyslide 2 there

 

3. choose Game (Skyrim in this case)

 

4. under "Present" Tab (second row on the top left) choose the body used (CBBE curvy, in my case)

 

5. check the "Build Morph"-Box in the lower left side (?; not sure but it's description makes sense)

 

6. click "Batch Build" in the lower left --> a window with a list of all the "clothing" opens

 

7. in this window everything is checked by default, so i left it this way (i'm not sure this is correct, because even already existing/fitting outfits were build again...)

 

8. next window, choose output (?; i choose standart CBBE (no undies and stuff) in the body section and non TBBP/HDT versions in the other sections, because i don't use any bouncing)

 

9. After processing is completed, close Bodyslide and start the game via NMM, the devices show up on my char now (yay!)

 

 

Some ideas, whether i did this correct? It seems to work so far, tested on a new char...

This is the way Bodyslides is meant to work, it is simple unless for unknown innatural supernatural reasons things go to hell

[greyspammer]

 

When i equip any Hobble Dress, my characters body becomes invisible, and hobble dress is also invisible

 

You need to use Bodyslide. Also if you are having any issues with animations, update your FNIS and XPMSE.

 

 

Same problem here. After asking, people confirmed that I indeed used BodySlide correctly.

 

But the dress still is invisible (animations are fine, though). I checked in the CK and the AA points to devious\devices\kimydress_eb_1.nif. Which does not exist in my data\meshes directory. Same with the bondage mittens and the elegant dress, by the way.

 

I used UUNP - UNP in BodySlide. Could it be that some information that BodySlide needs for UUNP is missing in the archive or placed in the wrong folder?

 

EDIT: When I try to build the mesh manually in BodySlide (instead of doing a batch build), it claims that the NIFs were generated. But they weren't. BodySlide is lying to me.

[r5e4w3q2]

 

 

Just got in-game and still trying stuff out.

Hobble dress + overburdened = strangeness. Sometimes I can move, sometimes I can't?

Further messing with,

hobble dress + overburdened + 3rd person view = no movement

hobble dress + overburdened + 1st person view = movement (very slow, but to be expected)

Once I start moving in 1st person, so long as I am holding down any movement key, I can switch to third person and keep moving.  Once I stop moving I get stuck again till I zoom into 1st person.

 

 

What kind of hobble dress? Extreme, relaxed or elegant?

 

Extreme has a prevention mechanism but we didn't think the other two needed it since they don't slow player down that much.

 

Elegant

[Hiekkaa]

 

 

When i equip any Hobble Dress, my characters body becomes invisible, and hobble dress is also invisible

 

You need to use Bodyslide. Also if you are having any issues with animations, update your FNIS and XPMSE.

 

 

Same problem here. After asking, people confirmed that I indeed used BodySlide correctly.

 

But the dress still is invisible (animations are fine, though). I checked in the CK and the AA points to devious\devices\kimydress_eb_1.nif. Which does not exist in my data\meshes directory. Same with the bondage mittens and the elegant dress, by the way.

 

I used UUNP - UNP in BodySlide. Could it be that some information that BodySlide needs for UUNP is missing in the archive or placed in the wrong folder?

 

EDIT: When I try to build the mesh manually in BodySlide (instead of doing a batch build), it claims that the NIFs were generated. But they weren't. BodySlide is lying to me.

 

 

This fixed the issue for me:

Hold CTRL when doing batch build in bodyslide, then move the resulting folder into Mod Organizer's mod directory.

 

It looks like bodyslide + Mod Organizer combo messes up somewhere if the intended file doesn't exist already.

[r5e4w3q2]

 

 

This fixed the issue for me:

Hold CTRL when doing batch build in bodyslide, then move the resulting folder into Mod Organizer's mod directory.

 

It looks like bodyslide + Mod Organizer combo messes up somewhere if the intended file doesn't exist already.

 

 Out of curiosity, were you running Bodyslide though Mod Organizer?

[greyspammer]

This fixed the issue for me:

Hold CTRL when doing batch build in bodyslide, then move the resulting folder into Mod Organizer's mod directory.

 

It looks like bodyslide + Mod Organizer combo messes up somewhere if the intended file doesn't exist already.

I use NMM instead of MO, but your idea still helped. I created the meshes in some other folder, then copied the files manually to where they should be. Now I have a hobble dress!

 

Thanks!

[Devious Diana]

So I looked at a bunch of the previous posts regarding the 2.0 update, I've updated all mods (DDa, DDi, DDx, Bodyslide, Zaz etc.).
Yet the majority of the items I try out on my character still appear invisible, I don't get any odd animations, but it does say the devices are locked on my character.

I have no experience using Bodyslide, I just added it to my load order and ran with it.

 

What do I do to make the items appear?

[Princessity]

So I looked at a bunch of the previous posts regarding the 2.0 update, I've updated all mods (DDa, DDi, DDx, Bodyslide, Zaz etc.).

Yet the majority of the items I try out on my character still appear invisible, I don't get any odd animations, but it does say the devices are locked on my character.

I have no experience using Bodyslide, I just added it to my load order and ran with it.

 

What do I do to make the items appear?

 

You need to use bodyslide to generate the meshes.

[darkfender666]

Help i installed new DDexp, DDcursed loot and dd integration

 

Now all devices are invisible

 

I am not the only wth that ptoblem it seems what shoul i do ?

[isee]

Help i installed new DDexp, DDcursed loot and dd integration

 

Now all devices are invisible

 

I am not the only wth that ptoblem it seems what shoul i do ?

Have you installed and used bodyslide to generate the meshes? it's easy and there are plenty of tutorials everywhere. Let alone the last few pages of this thread.

 

Everything works fine for me and I haven't  seen any noticeable problems keep up the good work DD team!

[darkfender666]

 

Help i installed new DDexp, DDcursed loot and dd integration

 

Now all devices are invisible

 

I am not the only wth that ptoblem it seems what shoul i do ?

Have you installed and used bodyslide to generate the meshes? it's easy and there are plenty of tutorials everywhere. Let alone the last few pages of this thread.

 

Everything works fine for me and I haven't  seen any noticeable problems keep up the good work DD team!

 

 

I have installed bodyslide (did not update since few months).

 

but i didn t generate anything.

 

I once used it to generate a body and then forgot it.

 

but does it mean i have to edit each piece of device?

All tutorials i saw explians only how to generate a single one....it would take ages

[isee]

 

I have installed bodyslide (did not update since few months).

 

but i didn t generate anything.

 

I once used it to generate a body and then forgot it.

 

but does it mean i have to edit each piece of device?

All tutorials i saw explians only how to generate a single one....it would take ages

 

 

Look in the lower left hand corner of the bodyslide program there is a button labeled "batch build" select that and then check-mark the files labeled "DDX" or"DD" and it will go much faster for you. 

[Devious Diana]

 

So I looked at a bunch of the previous posts regarding the 2.0 update, I've updated all mods (DDa, DDi, DDx, Bodyslide, Zaz etc.).

Yet the majority of the items I try out on my character still appear invisible, I don't get any odd animations, but it does say the devices are locked on my character.

I have no experience using Bodyslide, I just added it to my load order and ran with it.

 

What do I do to make the items appear?

 

You need to use bodyslide to generate the meshes.

 

 

Like I said I have no experience using Bodyslide, how do i do it? >.<

[Princessity]

 

 

So I looked at a bunch of the previous posts regarding the 2.0 update, I've updated all mods (DDa, DDi, DDx, Bodyslide, Zaz etc.).

Yet the majority of the items I try out on my character still appear invisible, I don't get any odd animations, but it does say the devices are locked on my character.

I have no experience using Bodyslide, I just added it to my load order and ran with it.

 

What do I do to make the items appear?

 

You need to use bodyslide to generate the meshes.

 

 

Like I said I have no experience using Bodyslide, how do i do it? >.<

 

 

There's like 3 years worth of tutorials posted everywhere. Even in this topic, the last couple of pages is full of helpful posts.

[Devious Diana]

 

 

 

So I looked at a bunch of the previous posts regarding the 2.0 update, I've updated all mods (DDa, DDi, DDx, Bodyslide, Zaz etc.).

Yet the majority of the items I try out on my character still appear invisible, I don't get any odd animations, but it does say the devices are locked on my character.

I have no experience using Bodyslide, I just added it to my load order and ran with it.

 

What do I do to make the items appear?

 

You need to use bodyslide to generate the meshes.

 

 

Like I said I have no experience using Bodyslide, how do i do it? >.<

 

 

There's like 3 years worth of tutorials posted everywhere. Even in this topic, the last couple of pages is full of helpful posts.

 

 

Was just looking at those. Is it really as simple as selecting the item and pressing build or am I missing something?

(I'm not a modder)

[Princessity]

 

 

 

 

So I looked at a bunch of the previous posts regarding the 2.0 update, I've updated all mods (DDa, DDi, DDx, Bodyslide, Zaz etc.).

Yet the majority of the items I try out on my character still appear invisible, I don't get any odd animations, but it does say the devices are locked on my character.

I have no experience using Bodyslide, I just added it to my load order and ran with it.

 

What do I do to make the items appear?

 

You need to use bodyslide to generate the meshes.

 

 

Like I said I have no experience using Bodyslide, how do i do it? >.<

 

 

There's like 3 years worth of tutorials posted everywhere. Even in this topic, the last couple of pages is full of helpful posts.

 

 

Was just looking at those. Is it really as simple as selecting the item and pressing build or am I missing something?

(I'm not a modder)

 

 

Yes... if you want to build one item at a time. It's much easier to just batch-build everything

 

(But make sure you select your body in the Outfit/Body dropdown menu first!)

[darkfender666]

 

 

I have installed bodyslide (did not update since few months).

 

but i didn t generate anything.

 

I once used it to generate a body and then forgot it.

 

but does it mean i have to edit each piece of device?

All tutorials i saw explians only how to generate a single one....it would take ages

 

 

Look in the lower left hand corner of the bodyslide program there is a button labeled "batch build" select that and then check-mark the files labeled "DDX" or"DD" and it will go much faster for you. 

 

 

Ty so much it worked

[Kimy]

Version 2.0b

- Fixed chain mittens, slider sets and the hobble dresses.

[greyspammer]

Yes... if you want to build one item at a time. It's much easier to just batch-build everything

 

(But make sure you select your body in the Outfit/Body dropdown menu first!)

May I suggest to add a sentence or two covering exactly that issue to the DDa/x description?

 

Something like:

 

To use BodySlide, if you are content with standard body shapes (like CBBE or UNP), just install everything, start BodySlide, select your standard body and preset (e.g. "Unified UNP" and "UUNP - UNP"), then click on "Batch build", select the output sets as appropriate and hit "Ok".

For more information, or if you wish more control over the result and/or use a non-standard body type, check out any of the tutorials on the internet [ideally linking to a few good ones here].

 

That wouldn't take up too much room and probably cover what a plurality (if not a majority) of users actually need. And alleviate the dread that is associated for many first-time users when being confronted with BodySlide. Sifting through tons of guides and tutorials on all the complex stuff that can be done with BodySlide, simply to find out what you have to do if you just want what previous versions of DDa/x gave you out-of-the-box, isn't exactly user-friendly.

[Soaryne]

Bug Reports

 

DDx is missing the MODL-RACE codes for Argonian (all), Argoinian Vampire (all), Orc (some), Orc Vampire (some), Khjiit (some), Khjiit Vampire (some) codes one the Heretic's itmes Armor Addons.

 

The Heretic's anal plug remove tails form the races when worn. Remove the tail place 40 form then will fix this.

[Kimy]

Bug Reports

 

DDx is missing the MODL-RACE codes for Argonian (all), Argoinian Vampire (all), Orc (some), Orc Vampire (some), Khjiit (some), Khjiit Vampire (some) codes one the Heretic's itmes Armor Addons.

 

The Heretic's anal plug remove tails form the races when worn. Remove the tail place 40 form then will fix this.

 

Tbh, beast races are officially unsupported by DD. We never test the items with them and don't design them for them either.

[Soaryne]

Bug Reports

 

DDx is missing the MODL-RACE codes for Argonian (all), Argoinian Vampire (all), Orc (some), Orc Vampire (some), Khjiit (some), Khjiit Vampire (some) codes one the Heretic's itmes Armor Addons.

 

The Heretic's anal plug remove tails form the races when worn. Remove the tail place 40 form then will fix this.

 

Here is a patch I made to fix the Heretic's DDx items.

This patch will have all Heretic show on Argonians both vampire and non-vampires and no longer have the heretic anal plugs remove tails form the races wearing them.

 

DDx Beast Races Fix.zip