Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy I'm doing the "learning the ropes" quest. I'm wearing the dollmakers promotion catsuit and a regular corsett. The chief doesn't check for existing corsetts in the second lesson, so I get "You can't equip multiple corsetts simultaneously". I think the immersion would benefit, if the rope master Chief Bogran would check for conflicting devices (Corsett) and remove that for re-applying it later. Just a thought...

Cheers!

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy Think I found a bug in "learning the ropes". The chief binds me in an armbinder and harness/crotch rope.

So I struggled out of the beforementioned corset, so the two bindings applied just find. I struggled out of the armbinder and untied the crotch rope/harness thing. But I'm still wearing the Maidens Shield. Wouldn't walk around Skyrim without some security. But the chief now tells me, I'm still tied, and I shall go struggle, although, I already struggled out of all the rope items. Maybe he sees the Maidens Shield and thinks, that has to go off now first, too, to continue. I will have to reload to a point without the Belt, since it won't unlock for another week, I guess. ?

[RadogoR]

21 hours ago, DeWired said:

This looks very strange, like your DCL installation is broken as hell. Namely, it thinks that DD is missing (but it isn't). Does DCL go in your load order after DD?

Thank you for pointing in the right direction! It was indeed "missing" since I've unckecked the older devious devices mod in mod manager, then installed the latest devious devices, but the mo was still looking at the old esps insted of the newer ones. Complete removal of all the old dd mods together with their eps fiels and another new game start sorted it out.

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy When the dollmaker sends me from Dawnstart to Markarth to "learn the ropes", the carriage is not to be found, when the Khajeet or what they are called set up their tents in front of town. I suppose, that's the reason. I just see a horse with carriage metall bar, but no carriage. Not sure, why, though. I did a coc "CellNameOfMarkarthStables" to get there... Edit: Replayed from earlier without coc'ing and same result.

 

So the driver and the carriage are missing, the horse and it's metall bar which should attach the carriage is there...

Maybe because of the "tree"? I use dark forrests of skyrim. But I already used the Dawnstar special carriage service before, in the game.

 

Edit: Uninstalled the forrest mod, no difference. And when I get attacked, the carriage horse runs off. ?

 

 

I did COC from Riften to Markarth before, since the cab driver didn't understand my gag talk for the heck of it... (You realize your gag is impossible to talk through). Does anyone know, what to do in such a situation? I don't want to coc around skyrim...

[gr4ssi]

28 minutes ago, gr4ssi said:

I did COC from Riften to Markarth before, since the cab driver didn't understand my gag talk for the heck of it... (You realize your gag is impossible to talk through). Does anyone know, what to do in such a situation? I don't want to coc around skyrim...

Fixed that one. I added paper and a quill to my inventory, and then he understood me. This is probably coincidence, since the gag talk just was understood, this time...

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, gr4ssi said:

This is probably coincidence, since the gag talk just was understood, this time...

This is original gag talk for DD.

DCL have own gag talk (at least in 8.5) In MCM is chance to trigger that gag talk. At least in DCL 8.5 About 9.0 don't know. Also you must repeat talk to driver up to 20 times and wait while Gag talk trigger. If you are very unlucky. If lucky it can trigger with first time or second. Or just in DCL MCM set trigger to 100% instead of default 75%.

 

[Skullered]

On 11/24/2020 at 9:06 PM, Best1123 said:

Hi @Kimy here are some more details about this issue that I found through my testing so that you and Skullered can track down what is causing this issue.

 

The issue occurs when both DD For Him and Beast races is installed using DD5 installer. When DCL is installed and you go in game all the gags that are added using DCL do not appear on the player character when they wear them. Even though the gag doesn't visually appear my characters mouth still opens as seen in the pictures I previously showed and the player character is unable to speak to anyone properly which is how the gags normally work. The gag meshes however do appear in the preview for the items in your characters inventory and when you drop the device on the ground they appear on the ground as well and are not invisible.

 

I removed DD For Him and Beast races from my game and the gag meshes worked correctly. I then proceeded to try installing both DD For Him and Beast races again to see if the issue occurred again and it did happen again which suggests that it is a recurring problem.

 

I then proceed to try installing DD For Him but leaving Beast races out of the installation of DD5 and the same issue occurred, I then did the opposite installing Beast races and leaving DD For Him out of the installation and again the same issue occurred.

 

I have not tested to see if it works on any races outside of the wood elf which is the race I used for my main character and I have not tested to see if the issue occurs with NPC's.

 

I hope the information above can help you identify what is causing this issue.

 

On 11/24/2020 at 6:04 PM, Kimy said:

@Skullered: Any idea if this can be confirmed, and if yes, what's causing it?

This is happening because of BRRF (and For Him) overriding the armoraddons that DCL references, which removes the elf, orc, argonian and khajiit races from "Additional races", so multiple armoraddons won't render all at once. This problem can happen with any mod that references the original armoraddons in Integration and Expansion in their custom gags.

 

The affected mods will need to be patched (there should be a DCL patch on my original BRRF page, not sure if it's severely outdated), or implement their own armoraddons into the mods themselves.

 

For the latter implementation (and preferred since it doesn't rely on an additional plugin), you will need to duplicate the armoraddons from BRRF into your own plugin and add the additional duplicated armoraddons to the armature of your custom gags. This would make the refitted gags render automatically without making BRRF a requirement. I could do that for you if you'd like.

[gr4ssi]

The quest "Learning the Ropes" doesn't go together with the Billboard Attire from the Dollmaker, in the third step. I can't put on the temple attire. Well, I guess, I will have to wear the Billboard Attire, till the contract runs out, and then try again?

It'd probably be good to not let Billboard Attire start, once you are on the "Learning the Ropes" quest, or make the rope Chief remove the Billboard Attire if there and replace it later on after the Dibella Temple Fetch subquest?

[gr4ssi]

I'm in a dungeon, wearing the Dollmakers Billboard Catsuit. My follower approaches me via Deviously Enslaved Continued and finds a nice chastity belt for me. The Catsuit gets unequipped, the belt goes on, and I can't re-equip the catsuit. I know DEC is not maintained anymore (but seems to work quite nicely), and I'm not sure if this is a bug in DD5 or DCL9b1.

Just wanted to mention it.

[Zaflis]

27 minutes ago, gr4ssi said:

I'm in a dungeon, wearing the Dollmakers Billboard Catsuit. My follower approaches me via Deviously Enslaved Continued and finds a nice chastity belt for me. The Catsuit gets unequipped, the belt goes on, and I can't re-equip the catsuit. I know DEC is not maintained anymore (but seems to work quite nicely), and I'm not sure if this is a bug in DD5 or DCL9b1.

Just wanted to mention it.

Too vague report, we would never be able to reproduce this without knowing ID or name of the belt and catsuit. You can also try to cross equip those yourself when at a safe point you have no restraints on.

[dennis102503]

I believe I have found a small bug. I purchased some of the DAMN packages from the dollmaker. When I activate them in inventory, the add whatever is "in them" to the inventory. However, the number of DAMN packages in inventory doesn't change. You can just keep activating them for infinite goodies. This has happened twice. It doesn't seem to happen with DAMN packages found in loot though. Those seem to work correctly.

[Kimy]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Uninstall DCL 9.0, then start new game, initialize all other mods by save load game a few times. When all initialize complete, exit Skyrim and install DCL 9.0. MCM as i understand not show up while DD 5.0 not initialize. And later not reinitialize a MCM.

 

God, no! If the MCM menu isn't showing up, all you need to do is quitting the game you just made to menu (not desktop!), and start ANOTHER new game.

[Addramyr]

Bit off topic, but thought I'd mention that in 10 pages time this thread will have reached 1,000 pages! In preparation I offer this fine community some virtual cake 

[kaldwin]

Guys, if the MCM isn't showing up for any mod that has dependencies, (not just DCL) it usually means that the mod tried to initialize before it dependences had a chance to.  just quick save and load.  you don't need a new game.  mods have to check for updates, and reinitialize after each load.  just make sure you give a chance for the mods that do initialize to load up before you save and load

[Solatium]

On 11/20/2020 at 12:33 PM, Kimy said:

The feature now respects the "Use Vanilla Prisons" control and doesn't always send the player to the DCL prison when surrendering to guards.

Thanks doing this, and making DCL play better with vanilla Skyrim in general. Sometimes I disable parts of DCL after going through a quest once, or if I want to focus on vanilla Skyrim for a bit and come back to DCL later, so this is very much appreciated.

[twsnider1138]

On 11/25/2020 at 6:50 PM, Zaflis said:

Having just finished Cursed Collar, it seems to be the last part of quests so far? (having used console command to continue to the whip and chain inn part earlier)

 

In the whip and chain inn, talking to Tamara puts on a full set which is made of 1 device "Extreme Bondage Dress". It includes gag visually but it keeps mouth closed. My guess is some missing keyword.

Zaflis, can you tell me what you did to continue to the Whip And Chain please? I know I got stuck just after completing the delivery quest for Vekel and the quest just stopped after Dollmaker released me. Thank you kindly,

[gr4ssi]

22 hours ago, gr4ssi said:

@Kimy When the dollmaker sends me from Dawnstart to Markarth to "learn the ropes", the carriage is not to be found,

 

 

I found the carriage inside a wall, because I was using The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/93901?tab=description

 

So this is incompatible... ?

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy Typo in the quest description in the journal. The Dollmaker sends me to "Ritfen" instead of Riften to fetch a delivery , when I return from "learning the ropes".

[gr4ssi]

Suggestion: when Chief Orc with the heavy ropes quest ties the heroine up as modell for the dollmaker (last round), wearing special outfits like the Nazeem rubber suit doesn't work well with the full body bondage, since Chief Ognar doesn't remove it first.

I'd suggest he'd either strip you first, before tying up or ask you to get rid of special suits. It'd just look much better.

 

And the hands in the rope armbinder ar black on my CBBE heroine..

[gr4ssi]

Dear all,

When the heroine wears a corset, the chastity belt isn't shown beneath. Is that on purpose, and how can I make at least the shield visible? This drives me nuts. Any suggestions highly appreciated.

[twsnider1138]

Ok I had a very weird experience right now and I’m gonna post my papyrus log in a minute too. I completed Chloe’s quest and started courier in chains and somehow my Sneak skill got boosted to 30 on me. I also seem to be getting a lot of error messages at the start of my log if anyone can explain that to me in plain language?

Papyrus.0 - Copy.log

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, twsnider1138 said:

Zaflis, can you tell me what you did to continue to the Whip And Chain please? I know I got stuck just after completing the delivery quest for Vekel and the quest just stopped after Dollmaker released me. Thank you kindly,

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/page/986/?tab=comments#comment-3205830

 

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[twsnider1138]

13 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/page/986/?tab=comments#comment-3205830

 

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Much obliged, good sir or madam. Thank you.

[Zaflis]

43 minutes ago, gr4ssi said:

When the heroine wears a corset, the chastity belt isn't shown beneath. Is that on purpose, and how can I make at least the shield visible? This drives me nuts. Any suggestions highly appreciated.

How do you mean? It looks like the waist band is not shown with corset. I'm not sure, maybe it's just really under corset?

Spoiler

 

Earlier someone had issue with gag not shown, was it because he was using the male devices mod? I don't use the devices for male nor beast refits addons. Don't plan to unless they become required for some mod.

And use 512 or 1024 textures for DD and DCL to save VRAM. This especially if someone is (many posts have so far) dealing with CTD's.

[twsnider1138]

51 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

How do you mean? It looks like the waist band is not shown with corset. I'm not sure, maybe it's just really under corset?

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Earlier someone had issue with gag not shown, was it because he was using the male devices mod? I don't use the devices for male nor beast refits addons. Don't plan to unless they become required for some mod.

And use 512 or 1024 textures for DD and DCL to save VRAM. This especially if someone is (many posts have so far) dealing with CTD's.

I can confirm that Beast Refit and Devices For Him do cause the DCUR exclusive gags to vanish and leave the PC with their mouth hanging open.