Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[senshou26]

4 hours ago, knots1353 said:

The other thing I meant to report is it seems to be, at least sometimes, ignoring the weightings on the Events page and the restrictions on the Devices page.  One of the first things I always do with a new DCL run is adjust these - I hate anything which restricts speed or sex, so I always set the weight of Shock Boots, Slave Chastity Belt, and Full Slave set to 0, and reduce the chance of the Chain Harness as well.  And on the Devices page I turn off hobble skirts and anything chastity related.   And I always turn Progressive Bondage on, and arousal to force full set to 101.

 

But the first couple of DCL events in 9.0 is the Full Slave Set (collar, corset, belt, and plugs) or a chain harness or full pony suit or something like that.  (With timed locks so you can't even get rid of them if you have the keys...)  Is this deliberate, or is something not checking the Event weightings?

 

While I can't say for certain if this is the case for you, I think this occurs due to the feature added awhile back to choose less punishing devices until level 3. I noticed DCL ignoring my MCM settings in new games until level 3 as of 8.5, if not earlier (I forget when this feature was added offhand). My guess is that the separate list of devices used to pick less punishing restraints for low level characters doesn't check itself against the MCM settings.

 

Things I probably should've posted about a while back, but I was busying being a lurker...

[Zaflis]

10 hours ago, neinnie said:

After Returning to Dollmaker after Supply and Demand and completing the quest, no new quest started and Supply and Demand is still in the questlog. 

I started Whip and Chain Inn via console

 

setstage dcur_twac_questarc 0

I can confirm this seems to continue the questline and advance to Queen Sarah.

About the QS collection, it seems that chance to find them from boss chests is about 30% in practise. Considering Sarah's set is 5 parts total, you need 5 boss chests x 3 to find them all. It is actually very hard to find that many dungeons! I can only save before opening boss chests, load and loot until i get it 100% that i expected it would already be.

 

Oh and the Supply and Demand will disappear from quest log when continuing with the console command.

[Guest]

I think I found a bug in the "bondage high-low" minigame: after equipping a collar on me (and a lot of other stuff, since I've been a bit unlucky ?), I keep getting the message "it's impossible to wear multiple collars at the same time" each time I lose.

[Tenri]

8 hours ago, CursedGor said:

The bug:

In the new inn I played the "escape room" game. I was given a "Heavy Yoke", a high security restraint. This was not removed during the game, although the game said it ended. Also Laura refused to remove this Yoke.

6 hours ago, tester86 said:

I had the exact same thing happen to me. The game starter didn't remove it and the lady by the front door said it was too devious to remove. My follower using Devious Followers said the same thing. I was able to get it removed by doing courier in steel by the blacksmith in Riverwood but that was the first time I'd seen that quest in over 100 hours of playing Skyrim so not sure how to force that quest to start. Maybe I got lucky. 

Also got it to remove via player.removeitem in the console but that left the animation in place of my hand held aloft. 

Just seconding the bug report. 

The "Heavy Yoke" came up some time ago as well (several months ago, maybe approaching a year not sure exactly), this yoke is a BlockGeneric device meaning the only way to remove it is via the methods provided by the mod equipping you with it, in this case the courier quest tester86 mentions is the intended way to escape the "Heavy Yoke".

 

However the Heavy Yoke is treated like any of the other generic wrist bindings as far as when it is added to the player is concerned, it is one of 3 "generic" yokes available to be equipped if the random wrist binding rolls yoke, the others being a standard yoke and the breast binding yoke (shouldn't be available during the Escape room due to progressive bondage having already equipped a suit), the chances for rolling yoke is determined by your device weights set in the MCM.

When the only way to roll for random wrist bindings was cursed loot traps this disparity of a BlockGeneric yoke being available in Generic device traps was less obvious (but has still made me greatly reduce if not outright prevent the use of random yokes from any mod), but now that it is appearing in a game centered around the removal of generic devices it is a serious issue that needs to be addressed in my opinion. I don't mind the "Heavy Yoke" existing and that it has a quest dedicated to removing it is fun, but the yoke should have its own trap category or some way to differentiate getting it compared to an actual generic yoke.

[Silenceyoursword]

3 hours ago, Zaflis said:

About the new whip & chain inn:

- In the escape room, trap for sex attack doesn't start any animation. In the end there's 2-3 bandits still standing around.

 

- Around the middle of inn was the man and woman continuously having sex, they started spazzing next to a wall corner at one point and causing some lag spikes. It never fixed itself until i loaded game, they just kept flickering in weird overlapped pose.

 

- The cage trap could last a few seconds longer too, the door opens almost right away as player enters it.

I dunno, I had the cage trap stay closed for about an hour in game-time.

Had about 5 bandits knocking around though. Made the mistake of talking to one, they promptly added more devices ¬_¬

 

This is probably DD rather than DCL related, by the way, but I got stuck in one of those ultra-tight straitjackets and even with all the keys it took me a day and a half (with everything on easiest difficulty) to get out because of the sheer number of 'Nope, you can't reach the lock, try again in an hour!' results, plus two keybreaks. By the end I was just waiting an hour, trying, waiting an hour, trying... I get what you were going for with it, but it wasn't terribly fun after the first few hours

[qawsedrftg765]

Suggestion:

Would it be possible to move The Dollmakers shop outside of dawnstar, similar to how Laura has her Bondage shop outside of whiterun (If this is already done in 9.0 I cant tell as I am SE only at the moment)?

Currently the shop conflicts with many City Overhauls, and I get that it is impossible to make everything compatible with everything.

Thanks, can't wait for the SE conversions. Probs looking more forward to DD stuff for skyrim more than most games this year.

 

[Best1123]

Overall very impressed with DCL9 and I am really enjoying it.

 

Unfortunately I have encountered some technical issues which I am not sure if they are the mod itself or something I did wrong during installation.

 

The problems that I have is when I go into the whip and chain inn the game will sometimes randomly crash. This issue doesn't occur any where else in the game for me so I'm not sure what is causing it.

 

The next problem is that all or the gag textures or models that are added through DCL9 appear to be missing when I put them on my character. They appear on the ground fine and when I look at them in my inventory they look fine but when I put them on my character she does the animation for having a gag in her mouth which is she opens her mouth but there is no visible gag present.

 

Again I am not sure if this is a problem with DCL9 or a problem with the way I am installing DCL9 (I'm installing DCL9 through nexus mod manager and I have tried to uninstall and reinstall the mod multiple times but it doesn't fix the issue).

 

This is not a issue with DD5 as all the gags from that mod work properly.

 

If anyone could give me advise on how to fix the texture or model issue with the gags it would be greatly appreciated.

[Silenceyoursword]

I'm also having texture problems - a lot of the DCL stuff just has that shiny purple 'no texture found' colour on it - I'm wondering if that's some kinda load order thing?

[Richard1234]

I’ve played through a bunch of the DCL content now and haven’t seen any texture issues

- finished supply and demand, so at least all the devices used up to then look good.

- got some new items from random cursed loot stuck onto me. All looked good. (Heavy purple ballgag and ultra tight straightjacket)

[Zaflis]

59 minutes ago, Silenceyoursword said:

I'm also having texture problems - a lot of the DCL stuff just has that shiny purple 'no texture found' colour on it - I'm wondering if that's some kinda load order thing?

Texture issues don't depend on load order, it's about the files that you installed (in wrong place or wrong way, etc...).

 

@Best1123 Try changing your skyrim pref inis to high quality. Gag's showing "crystal" texture had something to do with missing mipmaps in textures perhaps, too rough optimization routine done by mod devs, i don't know.

[Best1123]

31 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

Texture issues don't depend on load order, it's about the files that you installed (in wrong place or wrong way, etc...).

 

@Best1123 Try changing your skyrim pref inis to high quality. Gag's showing "crystal" texture had something to do with missing mipmaps in textures perhaps, too rough optimization routine done by mod devs, i don't know.

@Zaflis Thanks for the advise just a quick question what values do I need to change in the skyrim pref inis file to get high quality as I'm not very familiar with modifying the skyrim pref ini file?

[Zaflis]

26 minutes ago, Best1123 said:

@Zaflis Thanks for the advise just a quick question what values do I need to change in the skyrim pref inis file to get high quality as I'm not very familiar with modifying the skyrim pref ini file?

I didn't remember that at the time of posting, had to check... It is in skyrimprefs.ini, set this to:

iTexMipMapSkip = 0

 

Also for @Kimy i have papyrus for no sex animation starting. I had female enemy do combat surrender on me after i used Dollmaker sword on her. Neither of us had chastity but she had armbinder and gag. Then i did "rape" for testing in the chat dialog and nothing happened.

Papyrus:

Spoiler

[11/23/2020 - 12:34:23PM] slaScanner end time is ....1298.557007
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:23PM] Next update in 120.000000
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:38PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:48PM] [DCUR] - Sex with player: 
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:48PM] [Zad]: Selecting DD-aware animations.
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:48PM] [Zad]: Actor(s) are bound. Trying to set up bound animation.
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:48PM] [Zad]: Error: no valid bound animations could be found.
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:48PM] Error: Cannot cast from None to sslBaseAnimation[]
stack:
    [zadQuest (0900F624)].zadbq00.SelectValidDDAnimations() - "zadBQ00.psc" Line ?
    [zadQuest (0900F624)].zadlibs.SelectValidDDAnimations() - "zadLibs.psc" Line ?
    [dcur_mainlib (7D024495)].dcur_library.SexWithPlayer() - "dcur_library.psc" Line ?
    (topic info 7D0BFACC on quest dcur_curseddialogue (7D018CE7)) , dcur_npcsurrender_rape.Fragment_0() - "dcur_npcsurrender_rape.psc" Line ?
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:48PM] [DCUR] Sex Scene aborted. No valid animations found.
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:52PM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::OnUpdateGameTime()
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:53PM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::DoRegister(1.499947)
[11/23/2020 - 12:34:57PM] [Zad]: CheckAllEvents()

 

It's ok that no bound animations are found, but that it can't fall back to normal SL animations is bad thing.

[Best1123]

@Zaflis Thanks a lot I will give it a go now let you know how it goes.

[Best1123]

Unfortunately editing the iTexMipMapSkip to 0 did not fix the issue.

 

I have included some screen shots showing my character with a gag from DD5 and a gag from DCL9 so that hopefully a solution can be found.

[Zaflis]

14 minutes ago, Best1123 said:

Unfortunately editing the iTexMipMapSkip to 0 did not fix the issue.

 

I have included some screen shots showing my character with a gag from DD5 and a gag from DCL9 so that hopefully a solution can be found.

That is not a texture issue, it looks like you haven't installed the mesh. Could also be load order issue for DD. Maybe not done Bodyslide batch build? Although maybe gags weren't needed for that...

 

Quote

- Fixed: Surrendered NPCs should no longer get attacked by other NPCs. This time for real. I think? I hope?

Nope, even the slaver keeps attacking her so i can't deliver (a bandit from Whiterun hold). Also very often their arms get outside the armbinders.

[Silenceyoursword]

1 hour ago, Zaflis said:

Texture issues don't depend on load order, it's about the files that you installed (in wrong place or wrong way, etc...)

I installed DCL and DD via NMM in what I thought was the correct way, and the same way I've always installed mods. Any conflicts, I used the DCL files.

What else could I do to fix this? Leon's head is purple, and most of the Dollmaker's outfits are as well

[Richard1234]

7 minutes ago, Silenceyoursword said:

I installed DCL and DD via NMM in what I thought was the correct way, and the same way I've always installed mods. Any conflicts, I used the DCL files.

What else could I do to fix this? Leon's head is purple, and most of the Dollmaker's outfits are as well

No idea about NMM. All I can say is that it works good with MO2.

[Best1123]

@Zaflis I initially thought that it was a mesh issue so I tried manually installing it to see if NMM was the problem but the same problem occurs. I have also checked the meshes file to see if all the meshes are there and they are. I have also tried different load order configurations and that doesn't fix the issue ether. What is also strange is I don't have this issue with DCL8.5 stable version. To me it seams like the mod itself is not using the meshes even though they are present in the files which is very weird. I will do some more investigating to see if I can find a problem.

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, Best1123 said:

 

NMM is ages old, i'm not even sure if it really supports FOMOD installer or not. DD or DCUR can't just be extracted as is, all the folders in the archive are Data folders in different name. You only need to extract some of them, and you need to know which. That's why there is installer files so that your mod manager can do all that for you conveniently.

 

You need to reinstall both DD and DCUR in correct way. You can also make a post in tech support because if you need more detailed infos, this shouldn't be the forum thread for such personal guidance...

This is what installer looks like:

Spoiler

 

[Best1123]

@Zaflis NMM does support a FOMOD installer as I get that window when I installed it. I normally install it using NMM but as I said in my last post I decided to try it manually as a experiment to see if it could potentially fixed the issue. Believe it or not NMM is still supported at least in a bug fixing capacity as it received a update fixing some bugs it had 2 weeks ago from today. I have done some experimenting and looking at the mesh files and all the other components of the mod to try and identify what is causing the meshes to not appear in game and as far a I can see there is nothing wrong with the meshes of the mod and everything appears to have been installed correctly as per the options I put in the installer (CBBE bodyside, 2048 textures, Documentation and Live another life).

 

What makes it even stranger is that I installed DD5 in the same way as I did with DCL9 and DD5 works perfectly with no issues what so ever which leads me to believe there is a problem with DCL9 itself that is causing this issue. I'm not sure what else could cause this issue so again any help would be greatly appreciated in trying to get to the bottom of this issue.

[Silenceyoursword]

Yup, I've never had any problems with NMM giving me questions of what textures I want, movement style etc...

 

When the beta ends and the release version is out, I may look at moving to Vortex, as I'll be starting the whole thing from scratch.

[Best1123]

@Silenceyoursword Yeah I will probably look at doing a similar thing as well. To me at least this issue I am having looks like a problem with the mod its self which isn't surprising as it is a beta. It looks like it will be something that Kimy will need to probably fix before the release version is out.

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, Best1123 said:

What makes it even stranger is that I installed DD5 in the same way as I did with DCL9 and DD5 works perfectly with no issues what so ever which leads me to believe there is a problem with DCL9 itself that is causing this issue. I'm not sure what else could cause this issue so again any help would be greatly appreciated in trying to get to the bottom of this issue.

This is not how to report bugs... make a real reproduction case with details. I have not seen any issues with gags in my game so far, so that still leads me to suspect it's only problem in your game, not in the mod. You can check items mesh names in console and then track down their filename and full path. For example many devices are in:

Data\meshes\devious\expansion\

 

This screenshot is with DD5 and latest DCL, gag shows fine (i only use MO2 myself, i still wouldn't trust Vortex at all):

Spoiler

 

[Leeeeeroy]

So, how do I start the cursed collar quest through the dollmaker? I did it up to suply and delivery and eveyrthing worked up to that point, but the description says it's part of the dollmaker quest

And BTW i didn't have much problems with 9.0, the only real problem was with the mcm, but it was easy to fix, and my only critique is about the movement speed. There's just too much reducing our movement speed by a lot. It would be fine if it was only once, but it's in almost every quest and it becomes a chore after a while.

[Zaflis]

4 minutes ago, Leeeeeroy said:

So, how do I start the cursed collar quest through the dollmaker?

See my post before: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/page/986/?tab=comments#comment-3205830

I assume it will be some point after new inn and Queen Sarah, unsure still as that's a long one i haven't finished yet.