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Oh, alright, hopefully the op will move it to the downloads page soon, for now I've downloaded it and i'll test it later tonite after we both enjoy the holiday

happy independence day and thanx for your hard work even on the holday

 

Edit: the new enforcer update didn't help, I'm still reported by zaid the slave buyer as not abiding by the laws, i'll try reloading to before I met brutus again and paying off the previous 500 bounty enforced by a separate mod "alternate start:devious..." before talking to brutus and see if that clears the issue Later tonite, happy holiday

Are you completely nude or wearing a Devious Device? My mod shouldn't be reporting a DD but sometimes things don't work the way you expect them to.

 

 

I'm Completely nude, only my followers are wearing clothing/armor edit:couple followers also wearing dd, but none on me as the original problem I had before you updated twice was my full dd restrictions of chastity, bra, cuffs, and binder, I went to captured dreams and had them removed.....But on further note to that the removal bugged so I had to buy keys from the master after that to remove the arm cuffs and the harness is still attached, i'll try removing That next

edit 2 : the last time I tried removing the harness was prior to the version 4 update and had no effect on the villagers, i'll try removing it again with the update

edit 3 :removed the harness with version 4 running and immediately after brutus declared me a slave to report to the slave trader, I was reported by my follower (faendal from riverwood) before the dialogue even completed and the impending battlet caused a ctd before anything could result from that

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Hmm... Seem to have an odd problem. Same problem since v3 as well. The enforcer doesn't enforce the nudity law on current followers. If I use player.placeatme any follower, they get stripped. If I ask them to join me, they don't. Same problem with them getting enslaved; if I get enslaved and they're followers, they don't get stripped, and they don't get enslaved. Would this be a mod conflict, or something else?

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Hmm... Seem to have an odd problem. Same problem since v3 as well. The enforcer doesn't enforce the nudity law on current followers. If I use player.placeatme any follower, they get stripped. If I ask them to join me, they don't. Same problem with them getting enslaved; if I get enslaved and they're followers, they don't get stripped, and they don't get enslaved. Would this be a mod conflict, or something else?

 

I doubt its a conflict, it would have to act as sd+ to enslave the followers and strip them too, this mod isn't quite as complex as that, its only the player, as for not enforcing the nudity laws on followers, it seems to have a range on how close the followers are to the player has been my experience Or its designed to only work with the standard follower rules or 1 follower and or conflict is too many followers as we're both using multiple followers, I have my 2 closest followers, the most recent with me near brutus I get reported as tho I broke the laws, when its only them still clothed, until the law is broken and the guards shoot me to death, then sd+ kicks in and enslaves me and the 2 closest followers, notice even sd+ doesn't catch them all

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enforcer bugs aside for the time being I think i'll just slip past again and talk to him sometime when I can strip my followers or leave them outside of whiterun, maybe get my house and come back after dropping the loot

but I was also looking at the slave merchant by the shrine of talos with the 3 slaves: the 3 slaves have some dialog now with the daughter and the whore begging for help, but there's no dialog with any npc's to help them in anyway, can't even buy them out

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I don't think there's any follow up to actually interact with the slaves yet other than talking to some of them and donating to the wolf pen box.

The mod only has one quest line as far as I know and that is the PC slavery one.

Followers should get strip by Enforcer if they are female, that was happening in V3 of Enforcer, although they might not do it right away. Try entering a building in Whiterun then exiting.

 

Going to mess around with V4 later, too much freedom today, slavery will have to wait! :P

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Hmm... Seem to have an odd problem. Same problem since v3 as well. The enforcer doesn't enforce the nudity law on current followers. If I use player.placeatme any follower, they get stripped. If I ask them to join me, they don't. Same problem with them getting enslaved; if I get enslaved and they're followers, they don't get stripped, and they don't get enslaved. Would this be a mod conflict, or something else?

 

I doubt its a conflict, it would have to act as sd+ to enslave the followers and strip them too, this mod isn't quite as complex as that, its only the player, as for not enforcing the nudity laws on followers, it seems to have a range on how close the followers are to the player has been my experience Or its designed to only work with the standard follower rules or 1 follower and or conflict is too many followers as we're both using multiple followers, I have my 2 closest followers, the most recent with me near brutus I get reported as tho I broke the laws, when its only them still clothed, until the law is broken and the guards shoot me to death, then sd+ kicks in and enslaves me and the 2 closest followers, notice even sd+ doesn't catch them all

 

 

It's not even that. It's a different problem. If they were ever asked to be followers, they won't get stripped. If I just player.placeatme a random, new follower actor, they are stripped in the next periodic check. If I recruit them as a follower in the time between the checks, by the time the next check happens, they won't be stripped as they are now active followers. If I tell them to stop being followers and go home, they still won't be stripped. I think  my config somehow adds or removes a keyword when they're asked to become followers, but I'm not sure what's going, really.

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Updated Slaverun Enforcer Mod -- Version 4

 

New with this version:

  • Fixed issue with passing Whiterun gate not changing status of player re nudity laws.
  • Fixed problem of not allowing Devious Devices on the player.
  • Fixed problem of allowing player to equip weapons or spells without being reported.
  • Added MCM options to turn on or off nearly every feature of this mod.
  • Added MCM option to limit sex to aggressive animations for sex with slaves
  • Added MCM option to limit sex to aggressive animations for sex with free females
  • Moved Statistics to own MCM page
  • Added new messaging system to mod, it has four categories of messages and three handling options for each category all set in a new MCM menu page.
  • Added simple handling for female followers, they can be enslaved if the player is enslaved, simple because nothing really happens to them.
Why was this mod created?

I was playing a character when the Slaverun mod was first released and I tried it out. I however have a number of mods that add a lot of additional NPC characters to Whiterun and of course all those NPCs ignored the new laws. I could have made a custom patch mod for each of those mods to make those additional NPCs compliant but I am at heart a coder and my purpose in life has been the principle: Let the computer do that work. This mod represents my sharing of what I wanted for myself.

 

What does this mod do?

This mod replaces an early patch mod that could be added to make many of the females in Whiterun into slaves in an all or none fashion. This mod allows you to individually select which will be enslaved though all young females will be stripped.

  • All young female NPCs in Whiterun will be stripped. If their clothing was marked as "poor" then they will be enslaved as well. Stripping is done by script and then reinforced by changing the outfit the NPC wears to a "shoes only" outfit for free females or a slave outfit for slaves.
  • Companion females are stripped but not enslaved unless they are also a follower.
  • Elder race females are left alone, if there's a call for it I suppose I can add an option to include them too.
  • Female children are also left alone, do not call for that to change. It will not be done.
  • Males (except children) will demand sex from any slave they see that is close enough to be called for sex.
  • Males will also demand sex from free females they see that are also close enough to be called for sex.
  • Males will report you for violating the law if your female PC accepted the law or was enslaved and is wearing clothing and is close to the male.
  • Male followers will also demand sex or report you for violating the laws and they are almost always close enough that an enslaved female player will be their choice for that sex.
  • All vanilla interior and exterior locations in the City of Whiterun except Breezehome should require player nudity. Breezehome belongs to the player so it can be a retreat from the new laws, beware stepping out without stripping first though.
Required Mods
  • Slaverun and of course the mods it requires.
  • Sexlab Aroused is an additional requirement since some actions in this mod are based on the arousal of the NPCs.
Remaining known problems
  • Since the current method of checking runs through all NPCs in the same cell as the player, NPCs you are right next to cho are in another cell can be ignored.
  • This mod has only two scripts but one of them repeats every few seconds and that can contribute to script lag problems on slower machines that already have a lot of scripted mods.
Incompatible mods
  • Any mod that makes children killable or playable (which is done by turning off the flags that identify children to the game) or that adds children without also setting the child flag on the actor or adds a child race that doesn't have the child race flag set.

     

    This mod (and the other sex mods on this site for that matter) have to use the vanilla flags in the game to separate the children from the adults when adding dialogues and setting up adult situations. If the vanilla flags are not present then the children can end up getting swept up into the adult activities, sometimes partially and sometimes all too fully. The general rule is to not use such mods in combination with sex mods.

     

    If you see a child in Whiterun participating in activities initiated by this mod it is because you have a mod that is incompatible. It is not a bug in this mod and reporting it as such will be considered fair basis for getting a nasty reply, you have been warned. OTOH, if you see something like this happening and want help to identify the offending mod post your mod list (in a spoiler please) and I'll help you run down the mod causing the problem.

Installing this mod
  • This mod has exactly three files all of which should be placed into the Skyrim DATA folder.
Upgrading from a previous version
  • Upgrading should only require replacing the three files with the new ones, however it appears that the Slaverun 20140702 version of the Slaverun mod which contains V3 of this mod also has the unpacked SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX and SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX files in the DATA\SCRIPTS folder which you must delete. It is highly recommended that you also delete the PSC (source) versions of those file in the DATA\SCRIPTS\SOURCE folder as well.
attachicon.gifSlaverunEnforcer4.7z

 

 

 

 

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couple hours ago might explain the discrepencies, it seems you're download page was only showing the 0702, i'll try again for version 4

This isn't my thread, I just created an add-on mod which the OP has added to his. My update is only available back a few posts here in the thread so far.

 

Should be on the previous page unless the page changes as I post.

 

 

 

 

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Oh, alright, hopefully the op will move it to the downloads page soon, for now I've downloaded it and i'll test it later tonite after we both enjoy the holiday

happy independence day and thanx for your hard work even on the holday

 

Edit: the new enforcer update didn't help, I'm still reported by zaid the slave buyer as not abiding by the laws, i'll try reloading to before I met brutus again and paying off the previous 500 bounty enforced by a separate mod "alternate start:devious..." before talking to brutus and see if that clears the issue Later tonite, happy holiday

Are you completely nude or wearing a Devious Device? My mod shouldn't be reporting a DD but sometimes things don't work the way you expect them to.

 

 

after further inspection I notice the mcm isn't accessible after the upgrade, could you describe a little better on which files it is I need to delete from where for the upgrade from 0702 as I've tried to find the 2 files named here and neither exist in the data\scripts folder and this could be the reason your changes haven't affected the enforcer's laws if the enforcer isn't accessible from mcm after the upgrade

do I need to uninstall the mod and reinstall it to fix the issues or uninstall and delete something then, reinstall the mod to fix the issues, what's best fix for this to continue progression of the mod, aside from letting sd+ take care of it and losing what ever armor and loot my followers had on them before enslavement

open to suggestions, or fixes, i'll check back tomorrow sometime after a family reunion

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Really like what you've done to the place. :)

 

Some things I've seen:

  1. Slaves falling off their furniture. I believe this is caused by using the furniture in ZaZ. If you use idlemarkers pointing to the actual animations it should fix it I believe. (Been awhile since I've messed with it and may be giving you misinformation...)
  2. Player falling off the xcross while being whipped in the dungeon scene. Same as above except might also need to use a static that disables itself when the player is forced to use it. This is why in mods like Prison Overhaul the stocks disappear right before the player uses it. This will also cause a problem with knockback during the whipping and requires code to move the player back to where they're supposed to be. I might be getting some details off...
  3. You can unequip the collar and cuffs.

Wishlist :):

A radiant quest series that will make the fun unending and less linear. Maybe after the training is complete?

A way to escape and/or continue the game as a slave. (Pref both...)

 

Tempted to attempt a lead in mod...

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Mess around with V4 of Enforcer a little. First, I can't find the loose script files mentioned, they seem to be packaged in slaverun's bsa already, so didn't delete anything.

 

Did it with an existing save game also, there is still things that I can't get to work in existing save mostly regarding the quest, enforcer features seems ok except haven't test the follower enslavement one.

 

The messages are quite intense when I turn them on  :P noticed quite a few "can't find any slaves/female" messages when there should be(?) It seems like it'll eventually trigger after few more rounds.

Not sure if NPC checked as slaves actually get the lower arousal trigger.

Also about the slave arousal and free woman arousal threshold, are they fixed to be always 10 levels apart always? It seems like when I change one of them the number gets a little weird, and when I exit and return both numbers will always arrange itself to 10 level apart.

 

Is there some NPC or location dependent checks for men reporting PC for not following the law? It seems like woman won't report, I have only tested with Arcadia in her shop however.

Men is kind of random(?) Belethor in his shop never report, the priest in halls of the dead never report (doesn't rape also?), bard in Bannered Mare however reported, Sigurd while outside reported, Farkas while outside didn't report.

 

Follower stripping seems less reliable than before I have only seen them strip once and it was when a guard approach due to reporting, not sure if related. Also their weapon seems to disappear? Other items stays. Should test more later.

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I've just gone looking for the files as i didn't see this yesterday

 

Upgrading from a previous version

  • Upgrading should only require replacing the three files with the new ones, however it appears that the Slaverun 20140702 version of the Slaverun mod which contains V3 of this mod also has the unpacked SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX and SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX files in the DATA\SCRIPTS folder which you must delete. It is highly recommended that you also delete the PSC (source) versions of those file in the DATA\SCRIPTS\SOURCE folder as well.

But i don't have them to delete.

 

I have noticed that i still have slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp in my data folder which isn't packaged with the slaverun mod itself anymore so i assume i should remove that (the enforce MCM seems like it does the same thing now)

 

Would that be a cause for the problems we are having with the nudity law being enforced on nude PC's?

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Tried out the new slaverun enforcer 4 update. Still getting reported for chastity belts.

 

The mcm menu seems to be messed up too. I don't see any new options in the menu. Just a new little title screen with a picture, the same old options in a drop down tab thing, and a blank tab thing that does nothing when I click on it, but I can highlight it.

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Tried out the new slaverun enforcer 4 update. Still getting reported for chastity belts.

 

The mcm menu seems to be messed up too. I don't see any new options in the menu. Just a new little title screen with a picture, the same old options in a drop down tab thing, and a blank tab thing that does nothing when I click on it, but I can highlight it.

 

Have you tried setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 since the current enforcer MCM has 3 submenu's that should appear, if they don't then i don't think the mcm has updated correctly.

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Tried out the new slaverun enforcer 4 update. Still getting reported for chastity belts.

 

The mcm menu seems to be messed up too. I don't see any new options in the menu. Just a new little title screen with a picture, the same old options in a drop down tab thing, and a blank tab thing that does nothing when I click on it, but I can highlight it.

 

Have you tried setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 since the current enforcer MCM has 3 submenu's that should appear, if they don't then i don't think the mcm has updated correctly.

 

 

I started a new game. That didn't work. Tried the setstage ... thing just now, didn't work either. Still only 2 submenus.

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Tried out the new slaverun enforcer 4 update. Still getting reported for chastity belts.

 

The mcm menu seems to be messed up too. I don't see any new options in the menu. Just a new little title screen with a picture, the same old options in a drop down tab thing, and a blank tab thing that does nothing when I click on it, but I can highlight it.

 

Have you tried setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 since the current enforcer MCM has 3 submenu's that should appear, if they don't then i don't think the mcm has updated correctly.

 

 

I started a new game. That didn't work. Tried the setstage ... thing just now, didn't work either. Still only 2 submenus.

 

 

For me upgrading on an existing game didn't show the new menus, but starting a new game worked, i have 3 subpages now.

 

 

 

 

Edit: the new enforcer update didn't help, I'm still reported by zaid the slave buyer as not abiding by the laws, i'll try reloading to before I met brutus again and paying off the previous 500 bounty enforced by a separate mod "alternate start:devious..." before talking to brutus and see if that clears the issue Later tonite, happy holiday

 

 

Maybe the alternate start ladl mod is causing problems. It is outdated, iirc Aelie recommended to rather start with alternate start and then use Skyrim Unbound instead.

 

 

 

I don't now how outdated alt start is, I'm using alt start devious start from lover's lab and clearing the bounty didn't fix it either so I'm thinking the issue is with the followers as the sd+ fix for the issue stripped the 2 closest followers while paying the bounty so i'll have to either live with it how it is after sd+ has fixed it or find a place to store my follower's gear and items, maybe get a house before meeting up with brutus, lucky for me he's easy enough to get around

 

 

Ah i see, then your followers might as well cause problems. I'd recommend bathing beauties luxury suite then as a good place to park your followers, it is near whiterun and you can easily send them there via dialogue :)

 

 

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Okay, I figured out my problem. I had to delete 4 loose script files to fix the periodic update and mcm menus. Everything is working well now. I can see all 3 submenus and don't get reported for chastity belts anymore.

 

Only 2 minor gripes.

1. I'd still like an mcm option to set the amount of the bounty for breaking the law.

2. There's an invisible 4th submenu that you can click on. It just has a picture on it.

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Just tried after deleting slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp from my \data folder and i'm no longer being reported as breaking the nudity law.

 

Not tried the enslaved quest yet but i was able to go outside and get my gear back after speaking to brutus and selecting the okay heres my stuff option and have it flash up messages about exiting nudity area/entering nudity area okay and then wander around whiterun while nude without the guards deciding i'd broken the rules.

 

Just had a thought though will there be issues with having loversvictim running? i have currently have it installed but turned off as it wasn't working on npc/npc events (would trigger chase but then no sex for some reason - do need to try with latest sexlab version tho) but if that was working it would be allowing npcs to attack and sex up nude npc's which sounds like it might interfere with the call sex/free women although maybe different arosual settings would get around that

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Just tried after deleting slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp from my \data folder and i'm no longer being reported as breaking the nudity law.

 

Not tried the enslaved quest yet but i was able to go outside and get my gear back after speaking to brutus and selecting the okay heres my stuff option and have it flash up messages about exiting nudity area/entering nudity area okay and then wander around whiterun while nude without the guards deciding i'd broken the rules.

 

Just had a thought though will there be issues with having loversvictim running? i have currently have it installed but turned off as it wasn't working on npc/npc events (would trigger chase but then no sex for some reason - do need to try with latest sexlab version tho) but if that was working it would be allowing npcs to attack and sex up nude npc's which sounds like it might interfere with the call sex/free women although maybe different arosual settings would get around that

 

lover's victim seems to be working very well for me along side this mod, some npc's rape based on the old nude comments as if they forgot its law in whiterun you have to walk around nude while others just start having sex with the player, even seen orgy at the auction stand, slave trader had 1 slave then whiterun guard did another while follower did the player, but that's also after sneaking past brutus

also that slaverunvanillanpcenslaved is listed as an addon version 0624, but doesn't state anywhere if that's obsolete now, I'm going to try deleting that as well , thanx

Edit: tested just now, deleting that addon didn't fix it for me, I'm still reported by the slave buyer

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Okay, I figured out my problem. I had to delete 4 loose script files to fix the periodic update and mcm menus. Everything is working well now. I can see all 3 submenus and don't get reported for chastity belts anymore.

 

Only 2 minor gripes.

1. I'd still like an mcm option to set the amount of the bounty for breaking the law.

2. There's an invisible 4th submenu that you can click on. It just has a picture on it.

 

loose scripts, what files did you have to delete

 

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Tried out the new slaverun enforcer 4 update. Still getting reported for chastity belts.

 

The mcm menu seems to be messed up too. I don't see any new options in the menu. Just a new little title screen with a picture, the same old options in a drop down tab thing, and a blank tab thing that does nothing when I click on it, but I can highlight it.

In my release notes I explicitly warned that for upgrades you need to delete the loose script files added by the latest version of the Slaverun mod. The symptoms you are describing are exactly what happens when you fail to remove those loose scripts.

 

 

yes and as 2 of us have posted already, we don't see the files you named to delete, I'd love to get this fixed, curious as hell to see how it plays out

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Okay, I figured out my problem. I had to delete 4 loose script files to fix the periodic update and mcm menus. Everything is working well now. I can see all 3 submenus and don't get reported for chastity belts anymore.

 

Only 2 minor gripes.

1. I'd still like an mcm option to set the amount of the bounty for breaking the law.

2. There's an invisible 4th submenu that you can click on. It just has a picture on it.

 

loose scripts, what files did you have to delete

 

 

 

 SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX , SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX, SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PCS, and SlaverunMCMMenu.PCS

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I've just gone looking for the files as i didn't see this yesterday

 

Upgrading from a previous version

  • Upgrading should only require replacing the three files with the new ones, however it appears that the Slaverun 20140702 version of the Slaverun mod which contains V3 of this mod also has the unpacked SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX and SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX files in the DATA\SCRIPTS folder which you must delete. It is highly recommended that you also delete the PSC (source) versions of those file in the DATA\SCRIPTS\SOURCE folder as well.
But i don't have them to delete.

 

I have noticed that i still have slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp in my data folder which isn't packaged with the slaverun mod itself anymore so i assume i should remove that (the enforce MCM seems like it does the same thing now)

 

Would that be a cause for the problems we are having with the nudity law being enforced on nude PC's?

 

Some combinations of how the various mods installed may leave those files present but it also appears that other combinations are clean of those files. If you can't find them and the MCM menu has the new options showing then you don't need to worry.

 

slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp is not needed, the Slaverun Enforcer MCM options allow you to select any combination of those women as slave or as free that you desire.

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Okay, I figured out my problem. I had to delete 4 loose script files to fix the periodic update and mcm menus. Everything is working well now. I can see all 3 submenus and don't get reported for chastity belts anymore.

 

Only 2 minor gripes.

1. I'd still like an mcm option to set the amount of the bounty for breaking the law.

2. There's an invisible 4th submenu that you can click on. It just has a picture on it.

 

loose scripts, what files did you have to delete

 

 

 

 SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX , SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX, SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PCS, and SlaverunMCMMenu.PCS

 

that's weird I don't have those files so I tried looking in the folder I unzipped the mod from and they're not in there either

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Okay, I figured out my problem. I had to delete 4 loose script files to fix the periodic update and mcm menus. Everything is working well now. I can see all 3 submenus and don't get reported for chastity belts anymore.

 

Only 2 minor gripes.

1. I'd still like an mcm option to set the amount of the bounty for breaking the law.

2. There's an invisible 4th submenu that you can click on. It just has a picture on it.

 

loose scripts, what files did you have to delete

 

 

 SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX , SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX, SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PCS, and SlaverunMCMMenu.PCS

 

that's weird I don't have those files so I tried looking in the folder I unzipped the mod from and they're not in there either

 

There was some combination of installs that left those files behind, if they aren't present then they aren't a problem.

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I've just gone looking for the files as i didn't see this yesterday

 

Upgrading from a previous version

  • Upgrading should only require replacing the three files with the new ones, however it appears that the Slaverun 20140702 version of the Slaverun mod which contains V3 of this mod also has the unpacked SlaverunPeriodicCheck.PEX and SlaverunMCMMenu.PEX files in the DATA\SCRIPTS folder which you must delete. It is highly recommended that you also delete the PSC (source) versions of those file in the DATA\SCRIPTS\SOURCE folder as well.
But i don't have them to delete.

 

I have noticed that i still have slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp in my data folder which isn't packaged with the slaverun mod itself anymore so i assume i should remove that (the enforce MCM seems like it does the same thing now)

 

Would that be a cause for the problems we are having with the nudity law being enforced on nude PC's?

 

Some combinations of how the various mods installed may leave those files present but it also appears that other combinations are clean of those files. If you can't find them and the MCM menu has the new options showing then you don't need to worry.

 

slaverunVanillaNPCEnslaved.esp is not needed, the Slaverun Enforcer MCM options allow you to select any combination of those women as slave or as free that you desire.

 

 

but the enforcer menu hasn't worked since the update to 4 and I'm still being reported as covering myself

any ideas?

 

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Tried out the new slaverun enforcer 4 update. Still getting reported for chastity belts.

 

The mcm menu seems to be messed up too. I don't see any new options in the menu. Just a new little title screen with a picture, the same old options in a drop down tab thing, and a blank tab thing that does nothing when I click on it, but I can highlight it.

In my release notes I explicitly warned that for upgrades you need to delete the loose script files added by the latest version of the Slaverun mod. The symptoms you are describing are exactly what happens when you fail to remove those loose scripts.

 

 

yes and as 2 of us have posted already, we don't see the files you named to delete, I'd love to get this fixed, curious as hell to see how it plays out

 

It seems that some people got them and others did not. If you can't find them and the MCM menu has several pages of options then you are good.

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