Gulfwulf Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 The only quest I would do which had zero past loves is Orc Strongholds. That seems like a culture that demands its own story. Orc women need love too.Â
FoxFingers Posted April 2, 2016 Author Posted April 2, 2016   Grr, so no Sigrid??  The Gerdur quest is 10 voiced lines. Talk to Hod, yeah bang my wife, done.  I can come up with 10 lines for Sigrid, sure. Talk to Alvor, yeah bang my wife, done.  I was talking about things that take a couple hundred voiced lines.   Well, when you put it like that I guess there isn't much point is there?   Well, here's my Dilemma. Sigrid is married, and very happily so to Alvor. And they have a nice daughter.  There is no romance in the classic sense to be had there. And you know (generally) I run story lines that have some kind of plausibility for the characters.  There is no version of Sigrid I can think of that's romance-able. She's not interested in you - she's interested in her daughter, her vegetable garden and her husband. And a quick fling like Gerdur's doesn't take 200 lines of dialogue, nor should it.  Incidentally, there's no version of Gerdur that's romance-able either. Her 10 lines of dialogue "quest" exists as a test to see if an NPC voiced Mod was even possible. Right? I should have just started with Camilla.  All that said, there is already a Sigrid Quest in the Mod that RealCardia submitted the story for. And it's a fine story on its own and a plausible way to fuck Sigrid except it doesn't really work for a Male PC - it's built for a bi-sexual female.  Also, all the dialogue needs to be re-done, which is fine. I mean. chopping up sound files to make natural and emotional sounding dialogue is not easy.  Right, and now that I've typed all that ... I wonder. I wonder if I could adapt that quest to what I'm doing with Serana right now. She could play the female role in that. Huh. That would work pretty well, actually.
Old Book Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016    Grr, so no Sigrid??  The Gerdur quest is 10 voiced lines. Talk to Hod, yeah bang my wife, done.  I can come up with 10 lines for Sigrid, sure. Talk to Alvor, yeah bang my wife, done.  I was talking about things that take a couple hundred voiced lines.   Well, when you put it like that I guess there isn't much point is there?   Well, here's my Dilemma. Sigrid is married, and very happily so to Alvor. And they have a nice daughter.  There is no romance in the classic sense to be had there. And you know (generally) I run story lines that have some kind of plausibility for the characters.  There is no version of Sigrid I can think of that's romance-able. She's not interested in you - she's interested in her daughter, her vegetable garden and her husband. And a quick fling like Gerdur's doesn't take 200 lines of dialogue, nor should it.  Incidentally, there's no version of Gerdur that's romance-able either. Her 10 lines of dialogue "quest" exists as a test to see if an NPC voiced Mod was even possible. Right? I should have just started with Camilla.  All that said, there is already a Sigrid Quest in the Mod that RealCardia submitted the story for. And it's a fine story on its own and a plausible way to fuck Sigrid except it doesn't really work for a Male PC - it's built for a bi-sexual female.  Also, all the dialogue needs to be re-done, which is fine. I mean. chopping up sound files to make natural and emotional sounding dialogue is not easy.  Right, and now that I've typed all that ... I wonder. I wonder if I could adapt that quest to what I'm doing with Serana right now. She could play the female role in that. Huh. That would work pretty well, actually.  I liked the Gerdur quest just because it reminded me of the Vikings TV series. That tradition of accepting a spouse's choice to sleep with a third party, so long as there's consent all around.  But, yes, it doesn't quite work with Sigrid. She starts off by telling you to keep your eyes to yourself, and never really warms up.
FoxFingers Posted April 2, 2016 Author Posted April 2, 2016 She is a character I will hate to put in the lovers faction because the flirty talk and free love does't fit with anything about the character. But, players seem attracted to her.
shardoom Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 If you do decide to add her, and I understand more now why you don't want to, you could still condition the greetings to exclude her. Just let her have the least flirty one, or even make a new one. Perhaps she could be the first 'hatefuck' romance? lol  I do agree, having her go from telling me to watch where I'm staring to basically fucking me with her voice would be quite jarring.  You are exceedingly good at this now though, I'm sure you could make it work.
rubenibanez Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 I want so see more of Erikur being a cock blocking weasel. I love to hate him.
Old Book Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 She is a character I will hate to put in the lovers faction because the flirty talk and free love does't fit with anything about the character. But, players seem attracted to her. I think it's the conquest aspect. She does not want you. She is very clear about it. It would be toxic for her marriage and her family. It goes against her self image and best interests. Â So of course some guys will say "Oh yeah! She totally wants me!" Â Toxic has its own temptation. Â I don't want to see that quest, but tastes be tastes.
KRSG Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 The great thing about this mod, is the fact that you can end the quest line for a character before it even begins. Â I'm in the Con-Sigrid side because, like you, she's seems happily married and has no intention of laying with another man. Â With Gerdur, there was nothing pre-established that she was against sleeping with another man, just implied. Â So with Sigrid, if enough people want it, and you feel like doing it, go ahead.Honestly the one I'm most looking forward to is more adventures with Jenassa, but that's just personal bias. Â Though if you are still adding people, how about a little Uthgerd love? Â Yes, the trials and tribulations of Krosis have given me something of a soft spot her. Â And Bijins makes her absolutely gorgeous.As to "Gifts" from your lovers, I did feel that the necklace from Camilla was overpowered (hasn't stopped me from using it and am not complaining) but if you do decide to nerf it, 20 - 30? Â Or don't and leave it as is. Â Not really an issue. Â With the mod "Live Another Life" by the time I get Lydia I usually already have the Ebony Smithing Perk and tend smelt down the armor into materials. Â Not the biggest fan of the Ebony Armor look, but again, personal bias.Started the Winterhold the Questline and I have to thank you for NPC Improvement for that faction. Â Mirabelle is absolutely gorgeous. Â And Holy Shit is she....enthusiastic of our....research......I love it.Till next time.
Old Book Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 I loved Jenassa's story arc. She went from a character I ignored completely in earlier play throughs to being one of the most interesting companions in the game. It was also an excuse to try some vanilla dungeons and a side quest that I had forgotten about.
FoxFingers Posted April 2, 2016 Author Posted April 2, 2016 The Sigrid quest that's unfinished in the Mod works well - only if your player character is a female. You are helping Alvor and Sigrid over a rough patch and enhancing their relationship, pretty much.  I'm tempted, now, to make that quest of helping Sigrid one of Serana's challenges to appease Dibella. It would fit because Serana is a female, naturally. And it dovetails nicely with helping Ahlam with her Nazeem problem.  Of course in the end I'll be hearing from people who are possessive about their Serana and what she's doing on Dibella's missions. Â
KRSG Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 I loved Jenassa's story arc. She went from a character I ignored completely in earlier play throughs to being one of the most interesting companions in the game. It was also an excuse to try some vanilla dungeons and a side quest that I had forgotten about. Â Almost literally the same thing with me. Â Bijin Warmaiden's planted the idea of bringing her along, Amorous Adventures cemented her as necessary. Â Too be fair, without mods Elves aren't very appealing to look at and as a companion, you'll be looking at them a lot. Â And her story here is very interesting. Â I especially love the possessiveness she develops. Â It's cute.
karlpaws Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 The Sigrid quest that's unfinished in the Mod works well - only if your player character is a female. You are helping Alvor and Sigrid over a rough patch and enhancing their relationship, pretty much.  I'm tempted, now, to make that quest of helping Sigrid one of Serana's challenges to appease Dibella. It would fit because Serana is a female, naturally. And it dovetails nicely with helping Ahlam with her Nazeem problem.  Of course in the end I'll be hearing from people who are possessive about their Serana and what she's doing on Dibella's missions.  Similar to the divine quest for Agent of Mara, running about the countryside bringing love to couples?  How about adding in Frabbi and Kleppr in Markarth itself? Would be a very mundane comparison to her own parents, self absorbed and sniping at each other.  I suppose the Shattershields are more in the care of Arkay, in grief not loss of love. The couple in Falkreath the same way.  I'm not sure it can be changed enough, but the Mistwatch keep boss has a story that might be usable?
KRSG Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 The Sigrid quest that's unfinished in the Mod works well - only if your player character is a female. You are helping Alvor and Sigrid over a rough patch and enhancing their relationship, pretty much.  I'm tempted, now, to make that quest of helping Sigrid one of Serana's challenges to appease Dibella. It would fit because Serana is a female, naturally. And it dovetails nicely with helping Ahlam with her Nazeem problem.  Of course in the end I'll be hearing from people who are possessive about their Serana and what she's doing on Dibella's missions.  Haven't done/seen Serana's quest for this mod yet, so I don't really know to expect.  Though a playthrough I did see of the Dawnguard story and Serana's actions made her kind of adorable.  If this mod adds to that, I can see why people might be up-in-arms about sharing her.  Entirely ignoring how optional those quests are going to be, as is your style.  Whatever, more about the mod.  I know you where thinking about adding Angi to Serana's Dibella quest, anyway  you can keep that separate?  With Angi's situation, once her mini-quest is over she's quite happy having spent some time with some who doesn't have harmful intentions towards her.  And she even gives you a special gift when it's all said and done.  I honestly like the idea of the character meeting her, gaining her trust and friendship, and offering her some pleasant companionship.  Hell, when you mentioned Angi, this was my first thought about how you were going to go about doing this.  I even kind of makes sense.  Early on Angi, is very helpful for beginning players.  To have to do Serana's story to access it, while making sense with what you have planned her, seems a little out the way.  That could also just be personal bias showing.  Either way, this is my favorite Quests mod (for Skyrim) and will continue to be so.   Just had a thought, you ever thought about creating your own follower with interwoven quests?  It would be one hell of an undertaking, but holy shit it would be amazing.
Old Book Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 Joined FoxFingers patrons on Patreon. Been meaning to do that since FoxFingers first mentioned it.
FoxFingers Posted April 3, 2016 Author Posted April 3, 2016 Honestly the one I'm most looking forward to is more adventures with Jenassa, but that's just personal bias.  Though if you are still adding people, how about a little Uthgerd love?  Yes, the trials and tribulations of Krosis have given me something of a soft spot her.  And Bijins makes her absolutely gorgeous.  Started the Winterhold the Questline and I have to thank you for NPC Improvement for that faction.  Mirabelle is absolutely gorgeous.  And Holy Shit is she....enthusiastic of our....research......I love it.  Till next time.  I can see doing something with Uthgerd. Probably as part of some pre-existing lover's continuation. E.g. Carlotta needs help and her friend Uthgerd at the Bannered Mare is involved.  Glad you are enjoying Winterhold.   Similar to the divine quest for Agent of Mara, running about the countryside bringing love to couples?  That's the basis yep. Dibella version - sexah.    Whatever, more about the mod.  I know you where thinking about adding Angi to Serana's Dibella quest, anyway  you can keep that separate?  ...  Just had a thought, you ever thought about creating your own follower with interwoven quests?  It would be one hell of an undertaking, but holy shit it would be amazing.   Yeah, I've already decided to leave Angi for something else. I don't know, the Serana quest is already pretty wordy with 250 lines of dialogue or so. I might just leave it as is, release it and move on to something else.  Gee, I think there's enough Followers out there, though. I'll stick to just expanding the vanilla NPCs I think.   Joined FoxFingers patrons on Patreon. Been meaning to do that since FoxFingers first mentioned it.  Thank you! I appreciate that. But, more importantly, Arthur Guinness thanks you.   http://youtu.be/7lPtr6dQrnY
worik Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 The Sigrid quest that's unfinished in the Mod works well - only if your player character is a female. You are helping Alvor and Sigrid over a rough patch and enhancing their relationship, pretty much.  I'm tempted, now, to make that quest of helping Sigrid one of Serana's challenges to appease Dibella. It would fit because Serana is a female, naturally. And it dovetails nicely with helping Ahlam with her Nazeem problem.  Of course in the end I'll be hearing from people who are possessive about their Serana and what she's doing on Dibella's missions.  Maybe another idea for you:  Let the PC enlighten the marriage of Sigrid and Alvor by spending a nice time with both of them? It would be only possible during the day, when the daughter is out with the other kids and they have their house for themselves  Such an approach should also work for both PC genders.  As side twist from the classic "lovers faction" approach, instead of going to the "lover" it could mean the PC goes to the "couple" and it would always be some kind of threesome.
FoxFingers Posted April 3, 2016 Author Posted April 3, 2016  The Sigrid quest that's unfinished in the Mod works well - only if your player character is a female. You are helping Alvor and Sigrid over a rough patch and enhancing their relationship, pretty much.  I'm tempted, now, to make that quest of helping Sigrid one of Serana's challenges to appease Dibella. It would fit because Serana is a female, naturally. And it dovetails nicely with helping Ahlam with her Nazeem problem.  Of course in the end I'll be hearing from people who are possessive about their Serana and what she's doing on Dibella's missions.  Maybe another idea for you:  Let the PC enlighten the marriage of Sigrid and Alvor by spending a nice time with both of them? It would be only possible during the day, when the daughter is out with the other kids and they have their house for themselves  Such an approach should also work for both PC genders.  As side twist from the classic "lovers faction" approach, instead of going to the "lover" it could mean the PC goes to the "couple" and it would always be some kind of threesome.   The quest as it's written and mocked-up simply does not work for anything except a Bi-Sexual female player character. Which isn't bad, it's just limiting.  There is sex both separately and as a threesome with Sigrid and Alvor. But, besides that, the real sticking point is a magical alchemy that has to be mixed in the player character's vagina involving various ingredients and a lot of sperm. It's a fine sex-quest concept, if your PC is female.  I was figuring Serana's vagina could be used for the alchemy and taking care of Alvor, besides.  Basically, to pull that quest off as it's written I would need to find a female surrogate character traveling with the PC. Doesn't necessarily have to be Serana.  Anyways, the quest only works just for a PC if they are a bi-sexual female. Â
pinky6225 Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016  Honestly the one I'm most looking forward to is more adventures with Jenassa, but that's just personal bias.  Though if you are still adding people, how about a little Uthgerd love?  Yes, the trials and tribulations of Krosis have given me something of a soft spot her.  And Bijins makes her absolutely gorgeous.  Started the Winterhold the Questline and I have to thank you for NPC Improvement for that faction.  Mirabelle is absolutely gorgeous.  And Holy Shit is she....enthusiastic of our....research......I love it.  Till next time.  I can see doing something with Uthgerd. Probably as part of some pre-existing lover's continuation. E.g. Carlotta needs help and her friend Uthgerd at the Bannered Mare is involved.   Not to rain on the parade but i was under the impression Uthgerd the unbroken was considered the most broken NPC in skyrim so trying to use her may be a recipey for headaches and hair loss
rubenibanez Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 We could be honorary agents of Dibella after Markarth quest, spicing marital sexual life of couples in need. One shot only, like old Irileth's quest. Theres a banter within Sigrid and Alvor that ends with her saying "you don't get to sugar coat me, specially after  last night" or something like that. This always lead me to think he may have some problem getting his steel hard and that's why Sigrid always seems to be a little on edge. Nazeem's wife is another woman that seems to need a bit of action.
FoxFingers Posted April 3, 2016 Author Posted April 3, 2016 We could be honorary agents of Dibella after Markarth quest, spicing marital sexual life of couples in need. One shot only, like old Irileth's quest. Theres a banter within Sigrid and Alvor that ends with her saying "you don't get to sugar coat me, specially after  last night" or something like that. This always lead me to think he may have some problem getting his steel hard and that's why Sigrid always seems to be a little on edge. Nazeem's wife is another woman that seems to need a bit of action.  Ahlam will get released with Serana's new quest. I hope to have that out in a week or two.  I was going to add other new lovers in that Quest as well, but it's already over long just as it is. Plus I'm burning out on doing voice work after Brelyna, Carlotta and now this too. Â
rubenibanez Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016  We could be honorary agents of Dibella after Markarth quest, spicing marital sexual life of couples in need. One shot only, like old Irileth's quest. Theres a banter within Sigrid and Alvor that ends with her saying "you don't get to sugar coat me, specially after  last night" or something like that. This always lead me to think he may have some problem getting his steel hard and that's why Sigrid always seems to be a little on edge. Nazeem's wife is another woman that seems to need a bit of action.  Ahlam will get released with Serana's new quest. I hope to have that out in a week or two.  I was going to add other new lovers in that Quest as well, but it's already over long just as it is. Plus I'm burning out on doing voice work after Brelyna, Carlotta and now this too.   Sweet! Take your time, we ain't going nowhere.
TheTraveler Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I keep getting a C++ runtime error when ending the threesome with anekke and her daughter.
Nymphiia Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I am just curious. Does the adult version of this mod involve visual sex or just dialog sex?
KRSG Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I am just curious. Does the adult version of this mod involve visual sex or just dialog sex? Â Visual. Â It uses and requires the SexLab Framework, which comes with Animations.
Gulfwulf Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I keep getting a C++ runtime error when ending the threesome with anekke and her daughter. That's a SexLab error and not one Fox can diagnose. I'd ask in the main SL thread about it. I haven't had that issue, so it's definitely SL and not AA.
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