gregathit Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Ah' date=' forgot about that. Well, I'll be right back... [/quote'] Â No don't go doing that! We may need an inside man someday to give us some insight on something. Â It is always better to have a resource that you never use, than to need something and not have it.
deathparade Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Better to buy a tool and not need it than having no tool and needing it?
Brucealso Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 So if i put a link to LL in my signature over at nexus i could be banned for that?
prideslayer Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Short answer: yes. Â Long answer: You *could* be. You might get a lenient mod who resets your sig and gives a warning, but that seems less than likely these days. You'd have to put it in an image or else it'll just show up 'restricted site' or whatever, which stinks of trying to 'get around' the filter, which is breaking the rules.
Duoleb The Chosen Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Short answer: yes. Â Long answer: You *could* be. You might get a lenient mod who resets your sig and gives a warning' date=' but that seems less than likely these days. You'd have to put it in an image or else it'll just show up 'restricted site' or whatever, which stinks of trying to 'get around' the filter, which is breaking the rules. [/quote'] Â But if you're lucky get Dante the retard ADM, he'll ban you.
thesapien Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Mogie56, I empathize with your sentiments, but please be careful evoking "freedom of speech" in a context maybe not meant by its authors. It's like, think of how you have a right to kick someone out of your home if you don't like their behavior. A business owner has a right to refuse trading with you and things aren't that simple in grey areas like public forums that are privately owned. I just mean it's very complicated, like how freedom of speech conflicts with other laws like how falsely slandering someone could land you into legal trouble. Harassment too. We can't use freedom of speech to post anything we want anywhere we want, like certainly not child porn, for example. Â Maybe freedom of speech was more intended as applying between the individual and the state? So if you play the freedom of speech card here, they may come back with their right to refuse you in their place of business card. What I'm taking forever to say is that this isn't a situation that ought to be settled by state rights or laws. This is a problem between consenting adults doing trade. My solution is for everyone to just leave Nexus and stop visiting the site. Problem solved. Nexus would be shut down without any courts and handled by individuals just as such a problem should be.
Poontank Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 ...laws like how falsely slandering someone could land you into legal trouble. Very interesting. I've been pondering on this for quite a while now: Â I got publicly accused of producing 'child pornography' by that moderator who banned me. Could be interpreted as slander' date=' more precisely [i']libel[/i] since it was in written form. I got indirectly called a 'pedophile' (although the right term would be 'ephebophile' because the depicted character on the image that got me banned has already reached puberty) - what are the legal implications of such false allegations/accusations?
Sensual Nautilus Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I first heard of LL from Nexus while it was being censored and the fact that it was censored only encouraged me further. So I say keep it up Nexus. Best advertising in the world. In addition' date=' I wish Nexus would instaban discovered LL members! That would help us a lot, too. [/quote'] whoahohohoho! easy there buddy, let's not get ahead of ourselves although the regulations and regime of the site are a bit... extreme, I still appreciate the lovely modders who pop up there. I don't want to be seperated from that, especially that im pretty sure a mod including the one here who just contributed knows im an LL user. I may not be content with the aims of the figureheads of nexus, but I most certainly appreciate the amazing modders who regularly pop-up there from the abyss. I usually take every chance i get mentioning LL to these significant folks but that don't mean i want nexus dead. the site kind of makes it easy to find talented modders around... well... when I could still even type the name loverslab on the comments anyway. Â ps. I feel so special evoking such an enriching and interesting discussion Child like ego +1
Poontank Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 You are absolutely right about that. I actually still somewhat like the site. Â The things you wrote might explain the 'grudge' I'm harbouring: My ban brutally cut me off from easy access to said modders' resources and the contact with these important people, without me really breaking any rules. And whatever happened to the site's fabled strike system? Â As a first-time 'offender' (don't even think about that 'you got banned before for your horribly inappropriate and vulgar username' crap) who was very active for three months over there - and whose oh-so rule-breaking image was online for these three months without offending anyone - I should have deserved to be treated better than that. The appeal I wrote unfortunately wasn't sheepish begging to get reinstated but a catalogue of justified objections - 'arguing against a moderator's decision'. Rejected! Because moderators are always right, even in case of being utterly wrong. Â I don't hate the site and every member of the staff. Just a select few who deserve all the hate they can get for the pleasure they seem to feel because of their position of 'power', abusing it with impunity. No coincidence they are in fact the ones everybody hates, just check the web!
deathparade Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Poontank i adore from now on... that is the awesomest and most funny review i have ever heard of a game!
Duoleb The Chosen Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 i think that everyone should move to planet ElderScrolls or ModDB
deathparade Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Move? more like use it a little more  anyway 10% of moddb is actual good stuff 70% is mods that have no future 20% is shitty mods by 12 year old that think if you launch hammer editor and slam a bunch of walls together that you have a mod!   i know i've been user for 2/3 years or so the only good thing is it's nice community really
Poontank Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Well, Deathparade, that whole site is full of funny and very NSFW stuff. No, not the Nesux, I mean ED . Â Great fun browsing their pages if you can stomach (apparently you can) their tendency of bashing anything. In fact, the nasty bashing is the most funny part about the site. Â Back when ED got shut down a while back, thanks to the collaborative effort of many users the articles got recovered and the site was rebuilt.
deathparade Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Hmm can't seem to find ED in my mind anyway iam quite new to the whole elder scrolls series i saw skyrim and was like: well i wanna play that but i like starting a little more from the beginning in a series
Poontank Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 'Encyclopedia Dramatica' actually isn't Elder Scrolls-related, it's a kind of 'evil version' of Wikipedia. You'll find no-holds-barred articles on about any topic on there, giving everything a nice and sound trashing with a plethora of swear words and abysmal humour.
DeadSomething Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Ah' date=' forgot about that. Well, I'll be right back... [/quote'] Â No don't go doing that! We may need an inside man someday to give us some insight on something. Â It is always better to have a resource that you never use, than to need something and not have it. Â like in "Aliens": "why do you take a weapon? - you're a scientist." "It's like a condom; I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it."
Grumpf Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 anyway 10% of moddb is actual good stuff 70% is mods that have no future 20% is shitty mods by 12 year old that think if you launch hammer editor and slam a bunch of walls together that you have a mod!  That's yet another issue... Due to a bit too strict policies, we have thousands of retard mods on the Nexus. Don't get me started  The solution will be a nice free hosting place and a way to customize thread so they'll become a mod webpage.  Any Web gourou here?
sbire Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 The solution will be a nice free hosting place and a way to customize thread so they'll become a mod webpage. Â Any Web gourou here? Â the problem will be "free" and "hosting". the cms aren't the problem. you can simply modify a wordpress like modtype.doorblog.jp and present them with a simple frontend by joomla or else to promote like a index. but with hosting comes traffic and traffic cost money.
deathparade Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 anyway 10% of moddb is actual good stuff 70% is mods that have no future 20% is shitty mods by 12 year old that think if you launch hammer editor and slam a bunch of walls together that you have a mod!  That's yet another issue... Due to a bit too strict policies' date=' we have thousands of retard mods on the Nexus. Don't get me started  The solution will be a nice free hosting place and a way to customize thread so they'll become a mod webpage.  Any Web gourou here? [/quote']  Yea i know alot of people launch the geck change a bunch of variables that make this ONE seriously ONE weapon overpowered and call it a actual "mod" and how people will download it for all their "hard work"  Searching for a actual good mod is hard on the Nexus and for ModDB  And for what sbire:  You are right you probably need Ads and willing contributers which is hard since you need to make people believe your site has a actual future which is worth their money!
Guest Kate the Bionic Uterus Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 ...laws like how falsely slandering someone could land you into legal trouble. Very interesting. I've been pondering on this for quite a while now: Â I got publicly accused of producing 'child pornography' by that moderator who banned me. Could be interpreted as slander' date=' more precisely [i']libel[/i] since it was in written form. I got indirectly called a 'pedophile' (although the right term would be 'ephebophile' because the depicted character on the image that got me banned has already reached puberty) - what are the legal implications of such false allegations/accusations? You need to prove how the comment damaged your reputation and or prevented you from earning future sources of money and or pursuing interests. Difficult to prove as you can just change your nic to something else. However, if your nic was incorporated, trademarked or registered in some legal form then that would give you some solid grounds for lawsuit. Unless you have a law firm/lawyer on tetainer, "They hurt my feelings" cases are not taken seriously. However if you can show a "large number" and back it up, you would find plenty of lawyers willing to help themselves to a paycheck. I am not sure if this qualifies. Better to save your time and money for more positive endeavors.
Guest Kate the Bionic Uterus Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 ...laws like how falsely slandering someone could land you into legal trouble. Very interesting. I've been pondering on this for quite a while now: Â I got publicly accused of producing 'child pornography' by that moderator who banned me. Could be interpreted as slander' date=' more precisely [i']libel[/i] since it was in written form. I got indirectly called a 'pedophile' (although the right term would be 'ephebophile' because the depicted character on the image that got me banned has already reached puberty) - what are the legal implications of such false allegations/accusations? You need to prove how the comment damaged your reputation and or prevented you from earning future sources of income and or pursuing interests. Difficult to prove as you can just change your nic to something else and you are not banned from all of these type of websites. However, if your nic was incorporated, trademarked or registered in some legal form then that would give you some solid grounds for lawsuit. Unless you have a law firm/lawyer on retainer, "They hurt my feelings" cases are not taken seriously. However if you can show a "large number" and back it up, you would find plenty of lawyers willing to help themselves to a paycheck. I am not sure if this qualifies. Better to save your time and money for more positive endeavors. Like vacation or a new car iykwim.
Poontank Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I was BUTTHURT! Doesn't this count as grievous bodily harm ? Â Mentioning the whole ordeal was mainly to point out the gravity of the insults some of those moderators utter on a daily basis without a second thought. Patting themselves on the back for another banning job well done. I call the mindset behind such behaviour limitless hubris.
Guest GingerTom Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I believe in Karma--I've seen it in action. It catches up eventually...
thesapien Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 In addition' date=' I wish Nexus would instaban discovered LL members! That would help us a lot, too. [/quote'] *Several hours of work later* Done, and done! Were you able to ban yourself? Ah, forgot about that. Well, I'll be right back... No don't go doing that! We may need an inside man someday to give us some insight on something. It is always better to have a resource that you never use, than to need something and not have it. Fine, but if the asset becomes a liability, I still get to suicide him, right?
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