Deviously Helpless

[JahReit]

Love the mod, can't live without it.  You do great work on anything you are involved with.

 

With the well deserved accolades out of the way, I do have one problem;  if DH is used with SD+, which makes the experience a lot better/interesting, the conversation is disabled until DH is reset in the maintenance option.  Not a big problem, but with your talent I thought it might be an easy fix.

 

Regardless, thanks for all your great mods and all your great work for us, the undeserving. 

[Srende]

Lol, thanks!

 

I haven't used SD+ in ages, but what I think is happening: During a scene and afterwards while you're bound and running away, DH disables interacting with the attackers. That goes away once you get far enough or wait 3 minutes, whatever comes first. At the same time the enemies also become hostile again.

[Srende]

 

None, actually. Wearing arm and leg cuffs and a collar.

... Edit: and both soulgem plugs. I took them out and it looks like that fixed the problem.

 

I'll try get a log... I killed the bandit out of frustration and I think I saved after the fact, but this happened a couple times.

 

 

DH tries to remove any belt & plugs you have equipped if the option is on. To maximize compatibility with items from other mods and because the DD items aren't exactly like normal items, it takes a while to look them up. Basically, it takes longer the more stuff you have in your inventory, but it'll go through.

[JahReit]

Lol, thanks!

 

I haven't used SD+ in ages, but what I think is happening: During a scene and afterwards while you're bound and running away, DH disables interacting with the attackers. That goes away once you get far enough or wait 3 minutes, whatever comes first. At the same time the enemies also become hostile again.

I should have realized that, but to old and brain dead to think things through sometimes.  Thanks for your reply.

[Mord Sif]

Srende, whenever you get a minute would you mind taking a quick look at this for me please:

 

DH_log&lo.7z

 

I've been having a lot of sexlab CTD problems lately on scene starts. It's not a DH problem as far as I know, as it can happen with any other mod that calls for an animation, but after my latest crash today (which happened with DH) I noticed an error right near the end of the log.

 

This was on a brand new game. I left DH out of my load order until everything else had loaded in because I'd seen the odd error in there before and wanted to give it a chance to load up without having to compete with anything else. I used the console to give myself some gear (specifically the silver collar, arm&leg cuffs, padded open belt and orgasmo plug from Captured Dreams, plus a simple ring gag and armbinder from DD) and then ran straight to a nearby bandit camp. Sexlab gave me its usual CTD, but I thought I might as well check on that DH error while I was at it. (There are also loads of errors at the start from AFT, but games without that still crash on me.)

 

Thrown my load order in the archive, too.

 

Incidentally, I notice in that log that the eventual animation selected isn't an exact match to any of the ones sexlab had listed as available. Significant to the crash, perhaps?

 

Thanks

[Srende]

Yeah, I've noticed the occasional CTD at the start of SL anims too. The error isn't really error, it's just due to how SL handles animation arrays and papyrus being inconsistent.

 

 

Papyrus doesn't allow "none" arrays, but SL still returns "none" when no animations are found, instead of an empty array prompting that error. That said, here it clearly found animations so I think I'm actually initializing the array as none, will fiddle with it.

 

 

The animation selected is one of the ones listed:

[09/07/2014 - 03:01:20PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Found Animations(4): AP Holding Leg Up, Rough Behind, Rough Doggy Style, Arrok Rape,

[09/07/2014 - 03:01:22PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Adjustment Profile: SexLabAggrBehind.Adjust.BretonRaceF.ImperialRaceM

 

"Rough behind" is the friendly name that gets show in the SL menus, but internally it's SexLabAggrBehind.

 

Anyway, at the point the log ends, it's purely on SL. I don't think there's anything unusual happening that might prompt a crash from DH.

[Mord Sif]

Thanks!

[Qbeez999]

I installed but it won't show up in MCM.

[Dielos]

Hello,

 

On a completely new install, When loading a save or starting a new game, I always get a message from Deviously Helpless stating that the save is corrupt and I need to reinstall the mod through a clean save. Reinstalled several times, and always start a new game, but the message keeps popping up. What might be causing this, and how could I solve this?

 

As far as I know, I'm using the latest versions of all mods.

 

Here is my load order in case it helps:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

daymoyl.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

DD_restrained.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

sr_FillHerUp.esp

LoversVictim.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp

TavernClothes-MTM.esp

degradation.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

Apropos.esp

Drink Eat Sleep.esp

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

SexLabConsequences.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

Place2Sleep.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Populated Skyrim Civil War Patrols.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

SWT1.2.esp

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp

SexLabDangerousNights.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

mslDeviousCaptures.esp

SkyUI.esp

Sleep Anywhere.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

sexlab_WearAndTear.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

 

[Srende]

Hello,

 

On a completely new install, When loading a save or starting a new game, I always get a message from Deviously Helpless stating that the save is corrupt and I need to reinstall the mod through a clean save. Reinstalled several times, and always start a new game, but the message keeps popping up. What might be causing this, and how could I solve this?

 

As far as I know, I'm using the latest versions of all mods.

 

Here is my load order in case it helps:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

daymoyl.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

DD_restrained.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

sr_FillHerUp.esp

LoversVictim.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp

TavernClothes-MTM.esp

degradation.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

Apropos.esp

Drink Eat Sleep.esp

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

SexLabConsequences.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

Place2Sleep.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Populated Skyrim Civil War Patrols.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

SWT1.2.esp

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp

SexLabDangerousNights.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

mslDeviousCaptures.esp

SkyUI.esp

Sleep Anywhere.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

sexlab_WearAndTear.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Include a log of starting a new game.

[Srende]

I installed but it won't show up in MCM.

Try "setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1" in the console, and post a log of the first run after you installed it.

[Qbeez999]

 

I installed but it won't show up in MCM.

Try "setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1" in the console, and post a log of the first run after you installed it.

 

 

Sorry I'm a noob but where do I find the log and what will it be called?

[Srende]

See the first post for help with the log.

[Qbeez999]

 

 

I installed but it won't show up in MCM.

Try "setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1" in the console, and post a log of the first run after you installed it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Srende]

Nope, not that log, it's papyrus.n.log. And instead of pasting it, upload the actual file.

[originalwankster]

Hello,

 

On a completely new install, When loading a save or starting a new game, I always get a message from Deviously Helpless stating that the save is corrupt and I need to reinstall the mod through a clean save. Reinstalled several times, and always start a new game, but the message keeps popping up. What might be causing this, and how could I solve this?

 

As far as I know, I'm using the latest versions of all mods.

Getting the same problem here. Here's my log

 

 

[Srende]

The root cause seems to be this:

 

 

[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "stripBelt" in state "" on object "wd_util".
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "StripFollowerBelt" in state "" on object "wd_util".
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "ForceStripArmbinder" in state "" on object "wd_util".
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "GetCustomWornBeltKey" in state "" on object "wd_util".
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "ManipulateDevice" in state "" on object "wd_util".
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::Util_var" on object "WD_DeviantCloak"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "Util" on object "WD_DeviantCloak"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::Util_var" on object "WD_CreaturePacifier"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "Util" on object "WD_CreaturePacifier"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::Util_var" on object "wd_rustedbeltalias"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "Util" on object "wd_rustedbeltalias"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::Util_var" on object "WD_EquipMonitor"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "Util" on object "WD_EquipMonitor"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::Util_var" on object "WD_EventArmCuffs"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "Util" on object "WD_EventArmCuffs"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::Util_var" on object "WD_EventLegCuffs"
[09/09/2014 - 08:45:05PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "Util" on object "WD_EventLegCuffs"

 

 

It then induces bunch of errors in the config and eventually in the version check that pops up the error:

 

 

[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] ERROR: wd_util.UpdateMaintenance() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call
stack:
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnVersionUpdate() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 437
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.CheckVersion() - "ski_questbase.psc" Line 17
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].SKI_ConfigBase.OnGameReload() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 119
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnGameReload() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 924
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnInit() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 82
[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] ERROR: wd_util.checkForWeapons() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call
stack:
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnVersionUpdate() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 447
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.CheckVersion() - "ski_questbase.psc" Line 17
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].SKI_ConfigBase.OnGameReload() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 119
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnGameReload() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 924
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnInit() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 82
[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] ERROR: wd_util.FindFollowers() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call
stack:
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnVersionUpdate() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 449
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.CheckVersion() - "ski_questbase.psc" Line 17
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].SKI_ConfigBase.OnGameReload() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 119
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnGameReload() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 924
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnInit() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 82
[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] -- SexLab -- Voices[39]: MaleCommoner (Louis)
[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] ERROR: wd_util.libs() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call
stack:
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnGameReload() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 925
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnInit() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 82
[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] ERROR: wd_util.libs() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call
stack:
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnGameReload() - "WD_Config.psc" Line 926
    [WD_ConfigQuest (280012D6)].wd_config.OnInit() - "ski_configbase.psc" Line 82
[09/09/2014 - 08:46:01PM] [Helpless]: *ERROR* corrupted installation, util: [wd_util <WD_Main (28000D62)>], libs: None

 

 

 

I can't say I've seen that before. It looks that for whatever reason Skyrim doesn't see DDi properly, preventing DH from initializing. I'd say reinstall DDi, load only it, and once you've verified it working ingame, save, and install DH.

 

Also, you get a bunch of errors from Beeing female I assume, mod at 0D.

[Srende]

Updated to 1.15b:

• Support for other mods to initiate drop weapon events
• Prevented scenes from starting while transformed into a werewolf
• Added support for boots, both as trigger and equipping
• Added Broken oar grotto bandits as valid rapist faction
• bug fixes

There's also some changes that might help those experiencing errors even after reinstall.

 

And thanks to Coopervane for the banner!

 

Remember to rate the mod if you enjoy it

[Coopervane]

Always glad to see an update for this, Srende

[thedeathdefied]

Can I update without breaking saves? Do I have to use save cleaner?

[Srende]

Overwriting the previous version is fine, there would be a note if anything else was needed

 

Also, just pretend there was version 1.15a and I didn't accidentally skip it...

[Callipygic]

For what it's worth, I was also getting the 'Helplessly corrupted' message on first install, and this update seems to have fixed that. So, thank you

[Srende]

For what it's worth, I was also getting the 'Helplessly corrupted' message on first install, and this update seems to have fixed that. So, thank you

That's good to hear, thanks!

[galgat]

1.I really love this mod

 

2. I have one thing I know everyone love the armbinder, but I have a Love/Hate relationship with it. It inhibits your ability to fast travel, and of course this makes finding someone to take it off, sort of a pain in the wilderness sometimes, and struggle animations were like really neat when first do them, but they sort of wax old now.

 

I have actually popped my stop watch, and found that sometimes if I try to use the now built in zenet_gag quest if I can even find someone, after wandering around in the wilderness, with out a map to look at, and gagged, and armbindered to actually help me.

 

I have seen it take over 15 min., and some just to get the arm binder off, once it took 10 min. just to get a response from the NPC with the zenet_quest. I find it better just to start struggling. and that is now very boring. Then if I finally get the binder off I can fast travel somewhere, and make a key to get the gag off, as I have never gotten anyone to actually remove the gag for me, only the armbinder.

 

  I would really like and option to turn Armbinder off/on. Just a personal thing, but sometimes I like it, and sometimes I do not.

 

 

3. I really love this mod.

[Monoman1]

@galgat

You could install deviously cursed loot which by default has a 10% chance to find a sharp object in containers to cut yourself free. it's a much more interesting way of handling it imo. Rather than stay in your safe spot and struggle away it encourages you to move about. Your character will however spend a lot more time 'geared up' , be warned.

 

@srende

This has probably been suggested before. But it seems like no matter what distance the enemy spot you at and how much time you have to fumble around in the grass, find your weapon and reequip it the scene always begins. It just doesn't look fluid or make sense sometimes. Could a distance check be added so that if you're reequipped by the time they reach you the scene won't automatically start. I realise this raises the problem: what's to stop you equipping a new weapon from inventory which would be a lot quicker, almost cheating. How about denying access to the inventory screen for a few seconds after a weapon drop event unless you manage to pick up the same weapon you dropped? Just an idea.