Apropos

[eflat0]

From the op:

 

Note: The database included in this release is not complete. Some content is missing, and some content is being restructured (Decauk) to take advantage of animation-specific messages. If you want a complete experience, wait until a release in the future.

 

I don't think there are Male masturbation messages in the database yet. The mod supports both M and F.

Seems most the female_actor stuff is missing too, and near all the beast entries only cover 1st person. It's probably best to turn off messages until complete ... seems it attempts to access empty strings sometimes on a loading a save and hangs the loading? not quite sure... 

 

[Ashra XIII]

 

Nor Jcontainers , nor me can not be responsible for mod authors who can't upgrade their mods. Also you may wish to look at my last post in RP thread which comes with upgraded RP version.

 

 

When I said it was a 'Jcontainers issue', I wasn't blaming Jcontainers... merely saying that's where the hang-up was, in that Radiant Prostitution hasn't been updated to use the latest Jcontainers, which is going to potentially cause issue when other mods do use it. For me, the issue seemed pretty minor, but again I didn't delve that far into it at the time.

 

I also did see your post in the RP thread, but was a little confused by it because I a) totally didn't know you made Jcontainers, and somehow didn't make the connection that you were posting an updated version of RP, merely that you were putting up a version that also included Jcontainers 3.1 which I already had. That was pretty silly of me I fully admit.

 

I went ahead and downloaded your update from that thread and will install it, thank you for the effort.

[darkfender666]

 

It isn t working for me

i used previous version and it worked..

 

Updated following the procedure, and now i get sporadic messages only after sex nothing else.

 

It's possible you are just hitting missing content. The database for this version has been revamped. It's possible the text file is missing or the narrative voice for that text file is blank.

 

Please provide an apropos0.log file (See "Reporting Problems" in the OP)

 

I enabled papyrus, load a game in a small cell to prevent crashes (isnatlled the patch for that but yet it doesn t work 100%) and loaded another game.

 

Started a sexlab animation between female PC and male NPC.

 

I had 2 apropos logs when it ended

 

 

What is strange is i get some messages sometimes and they are orgasm messages.. but nothing else

 

P.S. reinstalled back previous version and it works properly :/ but i can t seem to make the new work

[Guest]

 

From the op:

 

Note: The database included in this release is not complete. Some content is missing, and some content is being restructured (Decauk) to take advantage of animation-specific messages. If you want a complete experience, wait until a release in the future.

 

I don't think there are Male masturbation messages in the database yet. The mod supports both M and F.

Seems most the female_actor stuff is missing too, and near all the beast entries only cover 1st person. It's probably best to turn off messages until complete ... seems it attempts to access empty strings sometimes on a loading a save and hangs the loading? not quite sure... 

 

 

Do you mean FemaleActor_Female stuff? Yeah, that's almost empty, in fact the entries that are there are really just being 'stored'. FF is not currently supported by Apropos due to an issue with identifying position (sub or dom). Until Gooser sets up FF to work, the most I could write would be messages assuming the PC was always position [0] (sub), and depending on how Gooser sets up the tags, that may involve a lot of rework for me.

 

As for being only 1st person; this will be changed very soon. In fact, 2nd person is complete, and 3rd person almost there.

[Fredfish]

From what I can see Gooser has gone from a Version number filing systrm to a Date system:-

 

Update 09/26/2014.1 NEWS

Note: The database included in this release is not complete. Some content is missing, and some cnot completeontent is being restructured (Decauk) to take advantage of animation-specific messages. If you want a complete experience, wait until a release in the future.

- F and M Masturbation messages, including start, orgasm, and stages

- Compiled against JContainers 3.1.0 (includes JC 3.1.0)

 

(Edited extract of the OP)

 

09/26/14.1 is the latest version in the download area

 

As for male masturbation, I had a look at the file structure in MO (lateest version) and there is no folder for it. I guess thats the not complete part of the DB
 

[gooser]

 

 

It isn t working for me

i used previous version and it worked..

 

Updated following the procedure, and now i get sporadic messages only after sex nothing else.

 

It's possible you are just hitting missing content. The database for this version has been revamped. It's possible the text file is missing or the narrative voice for that text file is blank.

 

Please provide an apropos0.log file (See "Reporting Problems" in the OP)

 

I enabled papyrus, load a game in a small cell to prevent crashes (isnatlled the patch for that but yet it doesn t work 100%) and loaded another game.

 

Started a sexlab animation between female PC and male NPC.

 

I had 2 apropos logs when it ended

 

 

What is strange is i get some messages sometimes and they are orgasm messages.. but nothing else

 

P.S. reinstalled back previous version and it works properly :/ but i can t seem to make the new work

 

 

I one case in your Apropos0.log there is a reference to a missing file 

Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_male/femaleActor_male_Anal_Stage1.txt'

In the other cases, there is no 2nd Person version of the descriptions. It appears, and correct me if I am wrong Decauk, that 1st person is still what we have predominantly in the current database.

 

Switching to 1st person mode (Narrative Voice) in MCM should help generate more descriptions in the mean time darkfender.

[gooser]

 

 

 

It isn t working for me

i used previous version and it worked..

 

Updated following the procedure, and now i get sporadic messages only after sex nothing else.

 

It's possible you are just hitting missing content. The database for this version has been revamped. It's possible the text file is missing or the narrative voice for that text file is blank.

 

Please provide an apropos0.log file (See "Reporting Problems" in the OP)

 

I enabled papyrus, load a game in a small cell to prevent crashes (isnatlled the patch for that but yet it doesn t work 100%) and loaded another game.

 

Started a sexlab animation between female PC and male NPC.

 

I had 2 apropos logs when it ended

 

 

What is strange is i get some messages sometimes and they are orgasm messages.. but nothing else

 

P.S. reinstalled back previous version and it works properly :/ but i can t seem to make the new work

 

 

I one case in your Apropos0.log there is a reference to a missing file 

Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_male/femaleActor_male_Anal_Stage1.txt'

In the other cases, there is no 2nd Person version of the descriptions. It appears, and correct me if I am wrong Decauk, that 1st person is still what we have predominantly in the current database.

 

Switching to 1st person mode (Narrative Voice) in MCM should help generate more descriptions in the mean time darkfender.

 

 

Just looking above to Decauk's post:

 

 

 

As for being only 1st person; this will be changed very soon. In fact, 2nd person is complete, and 3rd person almost there.

 

So, hopefully a follow-up release of Apropos will be available in the near future with a more comprehensive db.

[gooser]

 

 

Hi, I like the sound of this mod but more so the wear & tear system.

Would there be a possibility of a light version, with just the wear & tear conditions & messages?

 

So just messages regarding W&T but the actual sex acts?

 

 

The entire Wear&Tear system alone, missing out the descriptions of the animations.

So, you get descriptive messages of the state of the wear&tear & you suffer the consequences of the effects.

 

 

Gotcha, that doesn't sound very difficult to implement...

[gooser]

Male messages, including masturbation, will be done soon. I have just finished 3rd person for FM, which was the biggest chunk, so all basic content will be supported in the next few days.

Then I can get started on the cool stuff and refining the messages.

I see masturbation support was listed, what about handjob, footjob and fisting?

 

Not in the release made on Friday. I'm actually working on those last three right now.

[justbob2]

I don't know if this has been addressed yet (I haven't read all the posts), but is there a way to display the text on screen longer? I'm having to read too quickly before it disappears!

 

Alternately, could you change the way the segments are displayed and/or cleared?. For example, say the message takes 3 segments;  you start reading on the first line (segment 1), but the last line disappears first (segment 3).  It would be better if segment 1 cleared before segment 3, since you read that first.  Maybe you could reverse the order in which the lines are cleared?

[gooser]

I don't know if this has been addressed yet (I haven't read all the posts), but is there a way to display the text on screen longer? I'm having to read too quickly before it disappears!

 

Alternately, could you change the way the segments are displayed and/or cleared?. For example, say the message takes 3 segments;  you start reading on the first line (segment 1), but the last line disappears first (segment 3).  It would be better if segment 1 cleared before segment 3, since you read that first.  Maybe you could reverse the order in which the lines are cleared?

 

Been discussed many times before, read OP "Description Caveats".

[darkfender666]

 

 

 

It isn t working for me

i used previous version and it worked..

 

Updated following the procedure, and now i get sporadic messages only after sex nothing else.

 

It's possible you are just hitting missing content. The database for this version has been revamped. It's possible the text file is missing or the narrative voice for that text file is blank.

 

Please provide an apropos0.log file (See "Reporting Problems" in the OP)

 

I enabled papyrus, load a game in a small cell to prevent crashes (isnatlled the patch for that but yet it doesn t work 100%) and loaded another game.

 

Started a sexlab animation between female PC and male NPC.

 

I had 2 apropos logs when it ended

 

 

What is strange is i get some messages sometimes and they are orgasm messages.. but nothing else

 

P.S. reinstalled back previous version and it works properly :/ but i can t seem to make the new work

 

 

I one case in your Apropos0.log there is a reference to a missing file 

Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_male/femaleActor_male_Anal_Stage1.txt'

In the other cases, there is no 2nd Person version of the descriptions. It appears, and correct me if I am wrong Decauk, that 1st person is still what we have predominantly in the current database.

 

Switching to 1st person mode (Narrative Voice) in MCM should help generate more descriptions in the mean time darkfender.

 

 

Switched to 1st person and everything works properly.

Any idea on how to fix 2nd person?

 

P.S. checked in the apropos data folder i don t have ANY stage 1

Only 2-3-4

Also in the zip file stage 1 is missing...

[gooser]

 

 

 

 

It isn t working for me

i used previous version and it worked..

 

Updated following the procedure, and now i get sporadic messages only after sex nothing else.

 

It's possible you are just hitting missing content. The database for this version has been revamped. It's possible the text file is missing or the narrative voice for that text file is blank.

 

Please provide an apropos0.log file (See "Reporting Problems" in the OP)

 

I enabled papyrus, load a game in a small cell to prevent crashes (isnatlled the patch for that but yet it doesn t work 100%) and loaded another game.

 

Started a sexlab animation between female PC and male NPC.

 

I had 2 apropos logs when it ended

 

 

What is strange is i get some messages sometimes and they are orgasm messages.. but nothing else

 

P.S. reinstalled back previous version and it works properly :/ but i can t seem to make the new work

 

 

I one case in your Apropos0.log there is a reference to a missing file 

Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_male/femaleActor_male_Anal_Stage1.txt'

In the other cases, there is no 2nd Person version of the descriptions. It appears, and correct me if I am wrong Decauk, that 1st person is still what we have predominantly in the current database.

 

Switching to 1st person mode (Narrative Voice) in MCM should help generate more descriptions in the mean time darkfender.

 

 

Switched to 1st person and everything works properly.

Any idea on how to fix 2nd person?

 

 

 

There is no "fix" per-se - remember Apropos is a mod that has  a separate database - essentially a folder full of text files that are read during the game play.  The database of those files is currently evolving at a different rate than the actual mod. I included what was the latest and greatest database from our main content creator and editor, Decauk. The database will continue to fleshed out and I will hopefully be releasing a new update that includes more complete 2nd and 3rd person versions.

[Content Consumer]

Alternately, could you change the way the segments are displayed and/or cleared?. For example, say the message takes 3 segments;  you start reading on the first line (segment 1), but the last line disappears first (segment 3).  It would be better if segment 1 cleared before segment 3, since you read that first.  Maybe you could reverse the order in which the lines are cleared?

Actually, this part is sort of an interesting idea.

What does this say:

School Zone, or Zone School?

It makes logical sense to put the first part of the message first. I mean, really.

But... I get justbob's point in certain limited circumstances.

When three lines of text appear on the screen at once, it is sometimes more natural to read them back to front...?

 

This really doesn't apply to me, because I set the option in the MCM to not split messages onto multiple lines, but I guess some people do have that issue.

 

From the OP:

- A new MCM text widget is under development that will be available as an alternative to what is currently displayed in Apropos today that will hopefully provide a much better viewing experience.

 

Maybe add another option for this widget to reverse the order in which messages are displayed if they come in 3+ lines?

[darkfender666]

So i just have to wait the release of future update or do i have to fix something.

As said seems all stage 1 are missing both in data folder and in zip.

 

If i just have to wait i will if something is wrong on my game i'd better know.

[gooser]

So i just have to wait the release of future update or do i have to fix something.

As said seems all stage 1 are missing both in data folder and in zip.

 

If i just have to wait i will if something is wrong on my game i'd better know.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure Stage 1 will ever get that high of priority - primarily because it's the stage right after the initial AnimationStart event. 

 

People generally will be mentally absorbing (ahem) the first message when things start off - to immediately followup with a Stage 1 message probably would overwrite too quickly an be too abrupt. 

 

That is why Stage 1 is unselected by default in MCM. Stage 2 is a much more interesting point, imo, to display the next "thing" in the scenario.

 

So, Decauk I think has given Stage 1 low priority because of this. However, this never stops anyone from adding the text to their own copy, should they be so inclined.

[justbob2]

 

I don't know if this has been addressed yet (I haven't read all the posts), but is there a way to display the text on screen longer? I'm having to read too quickly before it disappears!

 

Alternately, could you change the way the segments are displayed and/or cleared?. For example, say the message takes 3 segments;  you start reading on the first line (segment 1), but the last line disappears first (segment 3).  It would be better if segment 1 cleared before segment 3, since you read that first.  Maybe you could reverse the order in which the lines are cleared?

 

Been discussed many times before, read OP "Description Caveats".

 

 

Thanks for the reply.  This mod is still a great game addition anyway.  (I'll just have to read faster)

 

[gooser]

 

Alternately, could you change the way the segments are displayed and/or cleared?. For example, say the message takes 3 segments;  you start reading on the first line (segment 1), but the last line disappears first (segment 3).  It would be better if segment 1 cleared before segment 3, since you read that first.  Maybe you could reverse the order in which the lines are cleared?

Actually, this part is sort of an interesting idea.

What does this say:

images.jpg

School Zone, or Zone School?

It makes logical sense to put the first part of the message first. I mean, really.

But... I get justbob's point in certain limited circumstances.

When three lines of text appear on the screen at once, it is sometimes more natural to read them back to front...?

 

This really doesn't apply to me, because I set the option in the MCM to not split messages onto multiple lines, but I guess some people do have that issue.

 

From the OP:

- A new MCM text widget is under development that will be available as an alternative to what is currently displayed in Apropos today that will hopefully provide a much better viewing experience.

 

Maybe add another option for this widget to reverse the order in which messages are displayed if they come in 3+ lines?

 

 

That's spot-on CC! I've tried to explain this a few times in the past (cf. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28123-apropos/page-57?do=findComment&comment=860814)

 

In order to get a display like this:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-76197-0-59205100-1398643654.jpg

 

You have to sequence the segments the way they are now. Otherwise, if you have a three-segment message, and it was sequenced the otherway, you won't be able to read it.

 

I *know* it is clunky. that is why I'm investing in a new MCM widget for displaying text in a completely different way.

[gooser]

 

 

I don't know if this has been addressed yet (I haven't read all the posts), but is there a way to display the text on screen longer? I'm having to read too quickly before it disappears!

 

Alternately, could you change the way the segments are displayed and/or cleared?. For example, say the message takes 3 segments;  you start reading on the first line (segment 1), but the last line disappears first (segment 3).  It would be better if segment 1 cleared before segment 3, since you read that first.  Maybe you could reverse the order in which the lines are cleared?

 

Been discussed many times before, read OP "Description Caveats".

 

 

Thanks for the reply.  This mod is still a great game addition anyway.  (I'll just have to read faster)

 

 

 

I am trying to improve this. Hopefully this will be a non-issue in the near future.

[darkfender666]

Tried again with stage 1 deselected...

Still no messages on 2nd person :|

 

 

[gooser]

Tried again with stage 1 deselected...

Still no messages on 2nd person :|

 

You will have to also select 1st person as Narrative Voice in MCM.

 

The stage description that you are hitting is:

{
    "1st Person" :
    [
        	"Spread your {ASS}, {BITCH}, he says. I burn with embarassment as {ACTIVE} describes me as an object.",
		"Tears stream down my face and I scream throgh clenched teeth, my {ASS} feeling like it's on fire.",
		"I'm at {ACTIVE}'s mercy, and he shows me none, painfully spearing my {ASS} on his {COCK}.",
		"{ACTIVE} plunges up my {ASS} violently, shaking my whole body.",
		"I grunt and begin sliding down, feeling painfully stretched by the {HUGE} intruder but pressing on anyway.",
		"I try to relax my {ASS} and suppress a shiver, please just let this be over soon...",
		"I shake, knowing full well I'll be a bit looser by the time I take his whole length.",
		"({ACTIVE}) Bet you were dreaming of a nice, {HUGE} {COCK} up your ass. Here you go!",
		"My naked body is shivering at how open and exposed I am like this.",
		"Feel better now that you're being fucked, {BITCH}? he says. I blush at the words.",
		"I'm helpless and struggling. The position I'm in has never seemed more ominous - or more exciting.",
		"I'm helpless to resist the inches of {HUGE} {COCK} sliding into my {WTANAL} pucker.",
		"I start turning red with embarassment and fury, and I bite my lip and try hard not to cry.",
		"Oh Gods... ugh.... aah... it hurts... I think this guy really wants to hurt me...",
		"({ACTIVE}) You're crying already? Its not even all the way in yet!",
		"Oh yeah, you got a {WTANAL} little {ASS}! {ACTIVE} leers as he slowly pushes into me.",
		"My heart pounds in my chest and I will my body to relax, preparing myself for a hard anal riding.",
		"I can't start doing anal with a {COCK} this big, it'll rip me apart...",
		"({ACTIVE}) Cry for me,  I wanna hear you screaming!",
		"I can't help but be attracted to a bad boy, even if he is raping my {ASS}...",
		"I'm not gonna give him the satisfaction of breaking me... This 'little girl' is not to be messed with!",
		"({ACTIVE}) Keep struggling, {BITCH}, it's a real turn on.",
		"{ACTIVE} doesn't care anything about me, only that he can empty his aching, needy balls into my belly.",
		"({ACTIVE}) I think she likes anal sex!",
		"({ACTIVE}) How do you like this, you damn {BITCH}!",
		"{ACTIVE} assfucks me hard, and my screams must be horrible to hear.",
		"({ACTIVE}) I bet you never let your boyfriend fuck you in the {ASS}!",
		"I try to stop him, but he keeps doing it, and as my {ASS} loosens up, it starts to feel good...",
		"It doesn't hurt that much after the initial penetration, so I decide to let him carry on."
    ],
    "2nd Person" :
    [
        	""
    ],
    "3rd Person" :
    [
        	""
    ]
}

Notice the empty 2nd and 3rd person sections.

 

These are currently being authored by Decauk.

 

Please be patient.

[chajapa]

 

 

 

 

From the op:

 

Note: The database included in this release is not complete. Some content is missing, and some content is being restructured (Decauk) to take advantage of animation-specific messages. If you want a complete experience, wait until a release in the future.

 

I don't think there are Male masturbation messages in the database yet. The mod supports both M and F.

Seems most the female_actor stuff is missing too, and near all the beast entries only cover 1st person. It's probably best to turn off messages until complete ... seems it attempts to access empty strings sometimes on a loading a save and hangs the loading? not quite sure... 

 

 

 

 

Do you mean FemaleActor_Female stuff? Yeah, that's almost empty, in fact the entries that are there are really just being 'stored'. FF is not currently supported by Apropos due to an issue with identifying position (sub or dom). Until Gooser sets up FF to work, the most I could write would be messages assuming the PC was always position [0] (sub), and depending on how Gooser sets up the tags, that may involve a lot of rework for me.

 

As for being only 1st person; this will be changed very soon. In fact, 2nd person is complete, and 3rd person almost there.

 

 

I wonder if the Female_Actor_Female stuff couldn't be written from the aspect of "sharing" and not so much on dom/sub? Would that work?

 

[darkfender666]

 

 

These are currently being authored by Decauk.

 

Please be patient.

 

Ty i just thought i had something broken on my game :|

 

And for some reason i hate to have things broken.

 

I'll just wait for next update TY

[egon123]

Quick question:

Should the female masturbating show up?

It has some entries in the database but ingame nothing shows up.

I dont know if there is a problem on my side or its just not yet activated in this release.

 

Another thing: Is it possible to get a massage when you change the animation?

Liked that in the older versions. Now I have the case, when sexlab choose a blowjob animation and I switch to, lets say, an vaginal, then I dont get a massage that says "Now this and that is happen". Or would that just end up in spam?

 

About the time the massages stays: Well, english isnt my first language. I often cant read them all before the last(first that shows up) vanished. Since the time is an engine problem it would be easier to read when the first line that appears the first line in the massage is.

However, since you can read them in the console if you are not fast enough, its not that serious.

 

Buuuut after all: Really well done so far! Cant wait till the full release! So many cool new stuff! :3

[Mez558]

I'm getting no messages at all (either displayed or in console) with new version, tried uninstalling and going back to old version but that now doesn't work either.

 

Is there a clean uninstall procedure I can do?

 

I obviously tried using the uninstall option from MCM already.