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Posted

I now have messages back after re-installing Apropos. I am glad I did because I now get starting messages (which were absent before).

 

No bloat yet, so Earendil's fix (which I reinstalled) seems to be working. Thanks, Earendil! Just to be on the safe side I shall make an effort to keep my custom messages short--just on the right side of premature ejaculation--so I do not "spill over" on to another line.

 

Jjust to reiterate: the bloat problem is a result of custom messages. The default Apropos should be fine. Gooser did warn us, and this is a beta mod, and I am impressed just how few bugs there are, in the big picture.

 

Thanks, Gooser!

Posted

A small thing but Apropos doesn't trigger for me when I use spells from SexLab Enchantress to trigger animations. I'm getting an error when I try to upload Apropos.0.log so I'll just put it in spoilers here

[03/24/2014 - 05:02:51PM] Apropos log opened (PC)

[03/24/2014 - 05:02:51PM] ---- AnimationStart ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:51PM] 1 falmer
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:51PM] Actors >>
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:52PM] [0]: test, female
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:52PM] [1]: falmer, Creature
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:52PM] Animation: '(Falmer) Holding' (Fc,gone,Creature,Bestiality,Dirty,Doggystyle,Missionary,Holding,Gangbang)
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:52PM] Stage: 1
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:54PM] AproposDescriptions.DisplayFemaleActorCreatureDescriptions(creature=falmer,isActorVictim=False,activeName=falmer,primaryName=test,effectiveVoice=2nd Person,isOrgasm=False,isGangbang=False,displayVirginityLost=False
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:54PM] AproposDescriptionDb.RetrieveDescription(subjectPrefix=femaleActor,partner=falmer,isActorVictim=False,isOrgasm=False,sexPart=vaginal,narrativeVoice=2nd Person
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:54PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_falmer/femaleActor_falmer_vaginal.txt'
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:55PM] ---- StageStart ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:02:55PM] Stage: 1
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:25PM] ---- StageEnd ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:25PM] Stage: 2
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:26PM] ---- StageStart ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:26PM] Stage: 2
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:46PM] ---- StageEnd ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:46PM] Stage: 3
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:47PM] ---- StageStart ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:47PM] Stage: 3
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] ---- AnimationChange ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] 1 falmer
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] Actors >>
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] [0]: test, female
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] [1]: falmer, Creature
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] Animation: '(Falmer) Doggystyle' (Fc,gone,Creature,Bestiality,Dirty,Doggystyle,falmer)
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:49PM] Stage: 3
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:51PM] AproposDescriptions.DisplayFemaleActorCreatureDescriptions(creature=falmer,isActorVictim=False,activeName=falmer,primaryName=test,effectiveVoice=2nd Person,isOrgasm=False,isGangbang=False,displayVirginityLost=False
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:51PM] AproposDescriptionDb.RetrieveDescription(subjectPrefix=femaleActor,partner=falmer,isActorVictim=False,isOrgasm=False,sexPart=vaginal,narrativeVoice=2nd Person
[03/24/2014 - 05:03:51PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_falmer/femaleActor_falmer_vaginal.txt'
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:03PM] ---- StageEnd ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:03PM] Stage: 4
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] ---- OrgasmStart ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] 1 falmer
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] Actors >>
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] [0]: test, female
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] [1]: falmer, Creature
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] Animation: '(Falmer) Doggystyle' (Fc,gone,Creature,Bestiality,Dirty,Doggystyle,falmer)
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] Stage: 4
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] AproposDescriptions.DisplayFemaleActorCreatureDescriptions(creature=falmer,isActorVictim=False,activeName=falmer,primaryName=test,effectiveVoice=2nd Person,isOrgasm=TRUE,isGangbang=False,displayVirginityLost=False
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] AproposDescriptionDb.RetrieveDescription(subjectPrefix=femaleActor,partner=falmer,isActorVictim=False,isOrgasm=TRUE,sexPart=vaginal,narrativeVoice=2nd Person
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/femaleActor_falmer/femaleActor_falmer_vaginal_Orgasm.txt'
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] AproposWearAndTear.GetWearTearDamage(actorType=falmer, assaultType=NOASSAULT
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:04PM] AproposWearAndTear.IncreaseWearAndTearAmount(test,AproposWearTearVaginal,AproposVaginalState,40
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] ---- OrgasmEnd ----
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] 1 falmer
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] Actors >>
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] [0]: test, female
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] [1]: falmer, Creature
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] Animation: '(Falmer) Doggystyle' (Fc,gone,Creature,Bestiality,Dirty,Doggystyle,falmer)
[03/24/2014 - 05:04:17PM] Stage: 4

and here is the Papyrus file

[03/24/2014 - 04:59:01PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[03/24/2014 - 04:59:01PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:01PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function GetTriFilePath on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function SwitchTriFiles on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function IsPlayableItem on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultSkinTextureSet on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function SetGlobalTimeMultiplier on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function GetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function SetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function StartFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function StopFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function ToggleFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function SetUFOCamSpeedMult on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:02PM] warning: Replacing native function TogglePause on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function GetTriFilePath on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function SwitchTriFiles on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function IsPlayableItem on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultSkinTextureSet on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function SetGlobalTimeMultiplier on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function GetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function SetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function StartFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function StopFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function ToggleFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function SetUFOCamSpeedMult on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:08PM] warning: Replacing native function TogglePause on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "_sltns_update", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script _sltns_update to _sltns_update (2400331F) because their base types do not match
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "daymoyl_QuestTemplate", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Error: Unable to link "daymoyl_QuestTemplate" - the parent of "xpoIntegration".
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script xpoIntegration to xpoIntegration (4E041A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zzEstrusTestEffectScript", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSEffectsDeadScript", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSFireNormal", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSFireCritical", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSShockRandom", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSIceRandom", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSFireRandom", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSEffectsScript", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSShockNormal", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSShockCritical", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSShockConvulsion", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSPoisonRandom", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSIceNormal", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSIceCritical", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zBFSSKYUIConfig", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script zBFSSKYUIConfig to zBFSSKYUIConfigQuest (590744F1) because their base types do not match
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "sslVanillaVoiceNPC", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script sslVanillaVoiceNPC to SexLabVanillaVoicesQuest (6A002E3E) because their base types do not match
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodaliasnpc", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodnpccreatures", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodaliasnpcremove", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodnpcbleed", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodnpc", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodnpcquestupdatescript", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Cannot open store for class "zbloodEBTmenu", missing file?
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:10PM] Error: Unable to bind script zbloodEBTmenu to zGoreEffectsPlayerQuest (750389EC) because their base types do not match
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetTriFilePath on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SwitchTriFiles on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function IsPlayableItem on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultSkinTextureSet on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SetGlobalTimeMultiplier on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function StartFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function StopFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function ToggleFlyCam on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SetUFOCamSpeedMult on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function TogglePause on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetTriFilePath on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SwitchTriFiles on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function IsPlayableItem on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultSkinTextureSet on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SetGlobalTimeMultiplier on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetDefaultFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function GetCurrentFOV on unlinked object zzEstrusUtil.
[03/24/2014 - 04:59:11PM] warning: Replacing native function SetCurrentFOV on unlinked object

 

Posted

That is because the current FB doesn't have consensual creature sex files, only rape. You can copy the ones from rape to the appropriate folders or wait until the next release

Posted

Just tested the difference between using {TAGS} and not using them, and there's precisely bugger all difference in performance. I customised a db folder with {TAGS} for vaginal, and no {TAGS} for anal, and stock db files for oral, and proceeded to run around Whiterun going at it. No real difference in reliability of messages, either in startup or orgasm, for the messages appearing or staying.

 

So frankly, use of tags makes no discernible difference in performance, nor do custom messages appear less frequently than stock ones.

Posted

Since reinstalling Apropos, and installing Earendil's fix for customized messages on top of it, I have had no problems and no bloat. Apropos is working beautifully. Wanted to put that out there, because I know I have been deterred from downloading mods when I see nothing but problems on these forums. Good news tends not to get reported. So here is some, with my thanks to both Gooser and Earendil.

 

Gooser, you will probably (on a less happy note) have seen the bad news, unrelated to Apropos, that the Dude Guy is no longer going to be upkeeping Spouses Enhanced. He has offered it to whoever wants to take it over. I have long thought (and experienced :) ) that SE and Apropos work really well together. I mean really well. I know that many, perhaps most, users of Apropos use this mod to add spice to rape and bestiality mods (neither of which appeal to  me). I use it as a supplement to Spouses Enhanced, which explains my interest in customized messages. I have seen you post on SE, Gooser, so I know you are familiar with that mod and (presumably) use it yourself. So here is my suggestion/request. Would you be willing to  inherit TDG's mantle, take over  Spouses Enhanced, and steer it to a bright new future that might include integration with Apropos? I can think of no one better qualified to do it. A harmonization of these two great mods (the two best sexlab mods out there  imho) could create something better even than the two mods are when separate entities. Just a suggestion. I'm sure you are very busy with Apropos! But I suspect that I am not alone in thinking how good Apropos and SE would work together.

Posted

Jcontainer is now at 0.62, will that work with Apropos or do we need to stick to the version thats packaged with the mod?

Posted

Gooser can you check with korialstraszbob who is doing Radiant Prostitute? You guys both have a file that is over writing each other in your mods. I am afraid this will cause one of them to not work correctly now.

Posted

My apropos wear and tear isnt working, menu does not have the enable button but had the (state of organs) selection? also after start and end of sex it brings up the following message.
player Arousal 0---
player enjoyment 0---

 

i was originally getting a None for everything. but i got the db file posted from gooser. which solved that problem

 

i have the skse 1.07 and other mods this apparently needed. 

Posted

My apropos wear and tear isnt working, menu does not have the enable button but had the (state of organs) selection? also after start and end of sex it brings up the following message.

player Arousal 0---

player enjoyment 0---

 

i was originally getting a None for everything. but i got the db file posted from gooser. which solved that problem

 

i have the skse 1.07 and other mods this apparently needed. 

 

That is an old version of the mod. You need to download and update.

Posted

Gooser can you check with korialstraszbob who is doing Radiant Prostitute? You guys both have a file that is over writing each other in your mods. I am afraid this will cause one of them to not work correctly now.

 

What file?

Posted

 

Gooser can you check with korialstraszbob who is doing Radiant Prostitute? You guys both have a file that is over writing each other in your mods. I am afraid this will cause one of them to not work correctly now.

 

What file?

 

 

He's referring to Jcontainer as its packaged with both mods

 

Posted

 

 

Gooser can you check with korialstraszbob who is doing Radiant Prostitute? You guys both have a file that is over writing each other in your mods. I am afraid this will cause one of them to not work correctly now.

 

What file?

 

 

He's referring to Jcontainer as its packaged with both mods

 

 

 

I don't think there is any harm overwriting mine with his. I watch the JContainers forum and keeping track of what's been added to JContainers. The current version of JContainers contains things requested and unrelated to Apropos and subsumes what I need, therefore, in theory it should work fine. Just make sure you install Apropos first, and then RP and specify overwrite.

Posted

So I am upgrading from Sexlab Describ 1.3, I uninstalled it via NMM and installed the latest Apropos. Started a new game and while it did load Apopos in MCM, when I click on it, it shows the old Sexlab Describe picture and no options. How do I purge SLdescribe from my folder or am I missing something sitll for files?

Posted

 

 

 

Gooser can you check with korialstraszbob who is doing Radiant Prostitute? You guys both have a file that is over writing each other in your mods. I am afraid this will cause one of them to not work correctly now.

 

What file?

 

He's referring to Jcontainer as its packaged with both mods

 

I don't think there is any harm overwriting mine with his. I watch the JContainers forum and keeping track of what's been added to JContainers. The current version of JContainers contains things requested and unrelated to Apropos and subsumes what I need, therefore, in theory it should work fine. Just make sure you install Apropos first, and then RP and specify overwrite.

 

Yeah that was the file, i didn't know what the file was for sure. Which is why I was asking for you guys to check just to make sure it was safe. So it is perfectly safe but I wanted to be sure.

 

As a suggestion you might consider putting on the main page that if you see such a overwrite that it is perfectly fine and not a issue. Just so people like me don't worry about accidentally screwing up the mods. :)

 

Posted

 

 

 

Gooser can you check with korialstraszbob who is doing Radiant Prostitute? You guys both have a file that is over writing each other in your mods. I am afraid this will cause one of them to not work correctly now.

 

What file?

 

 

He's referring to Jcontainer as its packaged with both mods

 

 

 

I don't think there is any harm overwriting mine with his. I watch the JContainers forum and keeping track of what's been added to JContainers. The current version of JContainers contains things requested and unrelated to Apropos and subsumes what I need, therefore, in theory it should work fine. Just make sure you install Apropos first, and then RP and specify overwrite.

 

actually is not good practice to override new plugin version with old. new is always backward compatible, but not vice versa (although currently it is)

Posted

Ok just tested it out for awhile tonight and for the most part it seems to work. But, yeah isn't there just always a but? Anyways sometimes the messages where or seemed incomplete things like

 

Bob splatters your ass with

 

and that was it. Not sure if others reported this issue or not. But just letting you know. Other than seeing that happen the rest of it that is done seems to work fine from my test anyways.

Posted

Ok just tested it out for awhile tonight and for the most part it seems to work. But, yeah isn't there just always a but? Anyways sometimes the messages where or seemed incomplete things like

 

Bob splatters your ass with

 

and that was it. Not sure if others reported this issue or not. But just letting you know. Other than seeing that happen the rest of it that is done seems to work fine from my test anyways.

 

I have an idea of what your problem is but can you please submit your Apropos0.log file?

Posted

I have occasionally seen the omissions too. I thought that they occurred because my custom messages added a TAG that was not in the original. So if there was {ASS} and {PUSSY}, but not {CUM}, I could use {ASS} and {PUSS}, but not {CUM}, in my customized version of  that message. Is this wrong?

Posted

 

Ok just tested it out for awhile tonight and for the most part it seems to work. But, yeah isn't there just always a but? Anyways sometimes the messages where or seemed incomplete things like

 

Bob splatters your ass with

 

and that was it. Not sure if others reported this issue or not. But just letting you know. Other than seeing that happen the rest of it that is done seems to work fine from my test anyways.

 

I have an idea of what your problem is but can you please submit your Apropos0.log file?

 

I ran back on and did one and it did it again so here is the log from that.

 

 

Posted

I saw that problem a while back, but haven't had it in a long time. Seems very intermittent, if it hasn't already been fixed.

Posted

So I am upgrading from Sexlab Describ 1.3, I uninstalled it via NMM and installed the latest Apropos. Started a new game and while it did load Apopos in MCM, when I click on it, it shows the old Sexlab Describe picture and no options. How do I purge SLdescribe from my folder or am I missing something sitll for files?

 

This is a screen shot I took, this is all that shows up for Apropos, not sure how to get rid of Sexlab describe, its uninstalled but seems to be conflicting.

 

 

l6kEllT.png

 

Posted

For those seeing a blank page how long are you waiting with that up? I only ask cause when i last update mine was blank for about 5 seconds and then it filled out the submenu's after that. Not sure why.

Posted

For those seeing a blank page how long are you waiting with that up? I only ask cause when i last update mine was blank for about 5 seconds and then it filled out the submenu's after that. Not sure why.

 

Opened it, got up, did stuff, came back 5 minutes later. Still blank with that same picture from the old Sexlab Describe mod.

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