Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Celedhring]

41 minutes ago, notfriendsftw said:

have the se version and i dont know if the fix for this is posted but i ctd when entering the dreamworld, also i downloaded daymoyl and defeat and was wondering if it was necessary to download both or even just 1 of them

My advice?  Get rid of DAYMOYL.  

[Black Justicar]

SO... I got 4 issues on a new version:

1. In first setup I set "buyout gold" to 500, but after enslavement it became somewhat like 960 gold instead.

2. When I asking my citizen master (owner) "How can i serve" her, she starts a topic like: "Listen carefully, slave...", and then dialog is stopping. Nothing happening.

3. In first setup (and later in enslavement) I seted "Hourly disposition modifier" to 1.0, but it is not applying my settings. Disposition still keeps degrading by 1 or 2 per hour.

4. Don't know is that an issue, but I can't see anywhere in real time how much gold I need to bring to my owner to buy myself out. Only in MCM.

Any thoughts? Solutions?

[donttouchmethere]

3 minutes ago, Black Justicar said:

When I asking my citizen master (owner) "How can i serve" her, she starts a topic like: "Listen carefully, slave...", and then dialog is stopping. Nothing happening.

thats a good question!

I would like to know what she had to say too ?

in fact, I'm still listening ?

[nikachuuu]

18 hours ago, notfriendsftw said:

have the se version and i dont know if the fix for this is posted but i ctd when entering the dreamworld, also i downloaded daymoyl and defeat and was wondering if it was necessary to download both or even just 1 of them

I am also having this issue. only I don't have DAYMOYL, just defeat.

[Adviser69]

18 hours ago, notfriendsftw said:

have the se version and i dont know if the fix for this is posted but i ctd when entering the dreamworld, also i downloaded daymoyl and defeat and was wondering if it was necessary to download both or even just 1 of them

 

22 minutes ago, nikachuuu said:

I am also having this issue. only I don't have DAYMOYL, just defeat.

I've addressed this bug before, and it has nothing to do with DAYMOYL or Defeat, nor is it really necessary to have either if you choose. The bug has more to do with one of the dependency mods, Devious Devices. More specifically, some of the chain and iron restraint types. You'll need this:
https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs <--DD hotfix

It removes the old HDT dependencies from the meshes for the chain iron restraints, and thus one of the core problems that cause CTD going to Dreamworld. There is a possibility that two faulty textures for statues could be a potential cause for CTD as well. If so, my conversion of Sisterhood of Dibella contains the fixed textures, courtesy of Yinkle. They will be in the folder Textures/azmoscreens/statues, and will be labeled yoa08c_whitemarble.dds and yoa08h_whitemarble.dds, respectively. Though they are separate standalone mods, SD+ and SoD share many assets between them, and I just implemented the statue fix for SoD earlier this evening. You can use BAE or another BSA extractor tool to get it, at least until this fix has been streamlined among all of DeepBlueFrog's mods that I convert.

 

At present, I am waiting for the next batch of changes and fixes, as many have been hinted at earlier in the week. As soon as the newest release hits LE, I will convert it to SE as time permits.

[notfriendsftw]

1 hour ago, Adviser69 said:

 

I've addressed this bug before, and it has nothing to do with DAYMOYL or Defeat, nor is it really necessary to have either if you choose. The bug has more to do with one of the dependency mods, Devious Devices. More specifically, some of the chain and iron restraint types. You'll need this:
https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs <--DD hotfix

It removes the old HDT dependencies from the meshes for the chain iron restraints, and thus one of the core problems that cause CTD going to Dreamworld. There is a possibility that two faulty textures for statues could be a potential cause for CTD as well. If so, my conversion of Sisterhood of Dibella contains the fixed textures, courtesy of Yinkle. They will be in the folder Textures/azmoscreens/statues, and will be labeled yoa08c_whitemarble.dds and yoa08h_whitemarble.dds, respectively. Though they are separate standalone mods, SD+ and SoD share many assets between them, and I just implemented the statue fix for SoD earlier this evening. You can use BAE or another BSA extractor tool to get it, at least until this fix has been streamlined among all of DeepBlueFrog's mods that I convert.

 

At present, I am waiting for the next batch of changes and fixes, as many have been hinted at earlier in the week. As soon as the newest release hits LE, I will convert it to SE as time permits.

i have the dd hotfix and i did what you suggested by extracting the marble files and puting them in sd but i still ended up crashing

 

Edit- ran it through creation-kit and it works now

[Adviser69]

8 hours ago, notfriendsftw said:

i have the dd hotfix and i did what you suggested by extracting the marble files and puting them in sd but i still ended up crashing

 

Edit- ran it through creation-kit and it works now

Oof, that's one of the first things I do when testing for any bugs. I've gotten fairly passable at interpreting the error warnings CK throws when loading a mod, so that's a pretty solid reasoning.

[5MHdxfn]

Hi

 

Is is possible SD+ kills the "sharp item loot" of Mod Cursed Loot? I am guessing. Just found this today.

 

I played the Damsel in Distress quest of cursed loot. I never ever found the needed sharp item. Checked about 100 container. Last 30 Minutes with 100% chance. Nothing. When I disabled SD+ I found the item immediately.

 

For the record: Played with SD+ May 2019, Cursed Loot 8.0SE, DD Set 4.2SE

[notfriendsftw]

how can i manually un-equip sanguine's bonds that he gives you because a few times a single piece was left behind and i tried all manner of ways to get it off from "free me" to asking npc's around and ive been forced to reload from before that in order to be free

[Fuzzy_Fox]

43 minutes ago, notfriendsftw said:

how can i manually un-equip sanguine's bonds that he gives you because a few times a single piece was left behind and i tried all manner of ways to get it off from "free me" to asking npc's around and ive been forced to reload from before that in order to be free

Sanguine can remove it, and he does but at random points because he thinks its funny. 

[MaikCG]

Question
The owner goes for a walk to sell the player somewhere (quest _SD_thugslave, if i understand correctly)

So we come to an empty place on the map and if you ask the owner - are we already there? the quest _SD_thugslave is completion, release player, and right there enslavement by the same NPC.
This is normal?
For example, SimpleSlavery is not used?

[DeepBlueFrog]

27 minutes ago, MaikCG said:

Question
The owner goes for a walk to sell the player somewhere (quest _SD_thugslave, if i understand correctly)

So we come to an empty place on the map and if you ask the owner - are we already there? the quest _SD_thugslave is completion, release player, and right there enslavement by the same NPC.
This is normal?
For example, SimpleSlavery is not used?

Did you enable the link to SD in simple slavery?

[MaikCG]

On 5/14/2019 at 5:55 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

Did you enable the link to SD in simple slavery? 

Yes, enabled.

But I thought this option intended for SimpleSlavery could sell player to SD+. This should not affect the launch of the sale event from SD+?

It seemed to me that there must be something similar to the Deviously Enslaved Continued event - it takes me to the auction and that's it, SimpleSlavery works further and it already determines farther fate.

But now the owner resells me to himself ?

 

Edited

 

If i drag the owner by force to a crowded place, then the sale is happens with the first random NPC, but need to ask three times "have we come?" If don’t ask , then nothing happens, owner stands and does nothing. Sale trigger does not start. During the walk, when meeting the NPC, also does nothing, I thought he would sell to first met NPC. ?

 

If drag to giants camp and creature enslavement disabled, then there is an attempt to enslave, but new owner does not appear, and looks like the enslavement quest doesn't work anymore, need to go to the blacksmith or the guard and ask for release.

[illymith]

ok, I give up what am i looking for in moonshadow garden* been here for ages and cant work it out please help

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, illymith said:

ok, I give up what am i looking for in moonshadow garden* been here for ages and cant work it out please help

Try looking for all the roses. The right one will trigger something special to appear. The wrong one will anger the guardians.

 

You can't touch the roses but standing right next to them should work.

[illymith]

I think I stood on the 5 I could see will try again. I thought someone said 6 so was thinking I was one of them or the staff. I read though alot of these pages trying to find answers and get you dont want to hold our hands and want us to work it out for ourselfs but some hints along the way on some quests would be nice. I ran up and down the road trying to find the sisters in your other mod and finally had to give up. no fault on you but the game is full of bugs and with all the mods its hard to be sure if its somthing I'm missing or a game bug. Theres a CTD if u have night mistress mansion CTD when you try to enter the bunk house dunno if you wana check see if u can repeat it on legend dunno about SE.

Other wise I have been enjoying the mods.

[oh boy]

Is it normal to keep being considered a slave even after escaping?

 

Specifically, I was captured by Sanguine, got him all happy dappy, asked to leave after choosing to join his faction (first option I believe). I got all my stuff back but couldn't leave the dreamworld, so I had to go back and talk to him, chose 'Why am I here?' and then he slapped some DD on me and dropped me back in the world. I traveled back to Whiterun, spent some days getting all the DDs off, but I'm still getting constantly approached as a "free fuck slave". It's kinda making getting the Companions quest started difficult. Every minute Athis is trying to fuck my poor girl lol

 

I don't really know 100% if it's SD+ that's making it obvious to everyone in Skyrim that my PC was a slave, but this is the first time she's been enslaved so I have no idea where else to post this question ?

edit: it may be Deviously Enslaved that's making my PC trigger as a still a slave, despite removing all devices and having no other obvious flags showing. I'll look into it more in the meanwhile

[cuceta]

I think the free fuck slave message is from Slaverun mod, not SD+ nor DE

[oh boy]

2 hours ago, cuceta said:

I think the free fuck slave message is from Slaverun mod, not SD+ nor DE

I don't have Slaverun installed ?

The only reason I assumed DE was because in its description it said to get rid of all DD devices, especially collars, or you'll be assumed as an escaped slave and taken advantage of. I looked through the MCM settings and couldn't find anything that could be an issue.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

10 hours ago, illymith said:

I think I stood on the 5 I could see will try again. I thought someone said 6 so was thinking I was one of them or the staff. I read though alot of these pages trying to find answers and get you dont want to hold our hands and want us to work it out for ourselfs but some hints along the way on some quests would be nice. I ran up and down the road trying to find the sisters in your other mod and finally had to give up. no fault on you but the game is full of bugs and with all the mods its hard to be sure if its somthing I'm missing or a game bug. Theres a CTD if u have night mistress mansion CTD when you try to enter the bunk house dunno if you wana check see if u can repeat it on legend dunno about SE.

Other wise I have been enjoying the mods.

I found the Night Mistress Mansion to cause me a lot of CTD and conflicted with other mods I really wanted to have in my load order. At the time I also had the Captured Dreams mod installed which also caused problems with the Night Mistress mod which is a shame as I liked the look of them both. But I would rather have stable game load order so sacrifices had to be made. 

[NunsontheRun]

I have a peculiar graphical glitch.  I was defeated through Sexlab Defeat, and sold as a slave through Simple Slavery to Riften Slave Market.  Got hung up with arms in the air, the bidding went, was sold, that all worked fine.

 

Then I wake up with an owner and the arms are still stuck up in the air.  When I move around the legs don't move, it's as though it's not loaded animations correctly.  I've run FNIS to check and it's not that.  The owner put an armbinder on me, my hands disappeared and my arms are still up in the air.

Everything else seems to work though, I've just got no movement graphics for my PC.

 

Any advice gratefully received.

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, NunsontheRun said:

I have a peculiar graphical glitch.  I was defeated through Sexlab Defeat, and sold as a slave through Simple Slavery to Riften Slave Market.  Got hung up with arms in the air, the bidding went, was sold, that all worked fine.

 

Then I wake up with an owner and the arms are still stuck up in the air.  When I move around the legs don't move, it's as though it's not loaded animations correctly.  I've run FNIS to check and it's not that.  The owner put an armbinder on me, my hands disappeared and my arms are still up in the air.

Everything else seems to work though, I've just got no movement graphics for my PC.

 

Any advice gratefully received.

Try the debug options on the Surrender key menu. They help sometimes in these situations.

 

You can also try sitting or using a crafting station to reset your pose.

[Verstort]

On 5/15/2019 at 3:37 PM, oh boy said:

Is it normal to keep being considered a slave even after escaping?

 

Specifically, I was captured by Sanguine, got him all happy dappy, asked to leave after choosing to join his faction (first option I believe). I got all my stuff back but couldn't leave the dreamworld, so I had to go back and talk to him, chose 'Why am I here?' and then he slapped some DD on me and dropped me back in the world. I traveled back to Whiterun, spent some days getting all the DDs off, but I'm still getting constantly approached as a "free fuck slave". It's kinda making getting the Companions quest started difficult. Every minute Athis is trying to fuck my poor girl lol

 

I don't really know 100% if it's SD+ that's making it obvious to everyone in Skyrim that my PC was a slave, but this is the first time she's been enslaved so I have no idea where else to post this question ?

edit: it may be Deviously Enslaved that's making my PC trigger as a still a slave, despite removing all devices and having no other obvious flags showing. I'll look into it more in the meanwhile

 

I get a random glitch where a follower will start pretending like they are the player's master if the player is wearing some DD devices, especially the collar, even when the player was never a slave under that NPC.

 

I've looked at that glitch from DEC's side without finding any real reason it should go off. DEC only modifies one SD+ variable (storage util) ever, that is the master personality which, only if you get enslaved to a SD master through DEC's distant enslave system, and only there, does the master personality get changed to "sex fiend" because I prefer it over the other personalities (more sex, less beer searching/money searching, etc).

 

Other than that, DEC doesn't make any direct changes to SD code or state, only starting enslavement through SendStoryEvent, and reading the state of certain quests to see if SD is too busy for DEC to interfere.

 

As far as I can tell, its not DEC causing the issue... but I don't see too many users reporting that error here that don't have the mod either.

[jlttsmiley]

1 hour ago, Verstort said:

 

I get a random glitch where a follower will start pretending like they are the player's master if the player is wearing some DD devices, especially the collar, even when the player was never a slave under that NPC.

 

I've looked at that glitch from DEC's side without finding any real reason it should go off. DEC only modifies one SD+ variable (storage util) ever, that is the master personality which, only if you get enslaved to a SD master through DEC's distant enslave system, and only there, does the master personality get changed to "sex fiend" because I prefer it over the other personalities (more sex, less beer searching/money searching, etc).

 

Other than that, DEC doesn't make any direct changes to SD code or state, only starting enslavement through SendStoryEvent, and reading the state of certain quests to see if SD is too busy for DEC to interfere.

 

As far as I can tell, its not DEC causing the issue... but I don't see too many users reporting that error here that don't have the mod either.

It would help if you posted a mod list 

[oh boy]

On 5/16/2019 at 10:18 PM, Verstort said:

 

I get a random glitch where a follower will start pretending like they are the player's master if the player is wearing some DD devices, especially the collar, even when the player was never a slave under that NPC.

 

I've looked at that glitch from DEC's side without finding any real reason it should go off. DEC only modifies one SD+ variable (storage util) ever, that is the master personality which, only if you get enslaved to a SD master through DEC's distant enslave system, and only there, does the master personality get changed to "sex fiend" because I prefer it over the other personalities (more sex, less beer searching/money searching, etc).

 

Other than that, DEC doesn't make any direct changes to SD code or state, only starting enslavement through SendStoryEvent, and reading the state of certain quests to see if SD is too busy for DEC to interfere.

 

As far as I can tell, its not DEC causing the issue... but I don't see too many users reporting that error here that don't have the mod either.

Maybe my save is just glitchy. I've gone and started a fresh one and will see if I still get the same results. I don't know what exactly is causing it, maybe it's not SD+ at all. I just know it occurred after Sanguine enslaved my girl and that was her first time getting enslaved. I was also using a pet mod called Haddar and I noticed that follower was also acting like a human despite being a dog. I don't think huskies are suppose to ask, "Is that milk leaking?" or "Got milk?!" when my PC is lactating lol

So maybe it was that follower that borked things up. This playthrough I won't even bother going to go get them.