pinky6225 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 If i have a follower what should happen if i'm enslaved/killed and whisked off to sanguine?
Vithiss Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I've used this with Defeat also and would only add that at lower levels (ie: when you have less health to start with) it can be helpful to have a wider margin between Defeat's minimum and SD's trigger because you can cross the gap pretty quickly when a Bandit Chief hits you with an enchanted two handed attack or the like. Following someone's advice somewhere here on LL - EDIT: for PC as Victim - (Sorry that I forgot who, or in which thread) I have Defeat's top end for health set rather high (around 60%) but Chance on Hit is adjusted downward, meaning that you don't get a rape every hit below the threshold. Then I set Defeat's minimum to around 20% with SD's trigger left at the default 5%. This seems to give pretty good results at lower levels as far as the two mods interacting well, and as health rises, the settings can be adjusted suitablly. SkyrimII: I certainly wish I could help more, but alas.... no skills. The work you're doing is great, and is greatly appreciated.
gaggedgirl123 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I can't wait until the gag and blindfold are back in. Also, as a suggestion, I think the blindfold could have an option to make it like "alternate start - live a deviant life", where the screen is about 90% opaque, and periodically turns 50% or a bit less, I dunno the exact value. I think that would make it more of a "punishment", but then again, having it as an option would be ideal. On another note though, if you need someone to test very specific parts of the mod, don't hesitate to PM me. Right now I'm taking a bit of a time-out from HID, but I still have a bit of time to test. And it would be my pleasure to help make this mod what it's meant to be!
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 I can't wait until the gag and blindfold are back in. Also, as a suggestion, I think the blindfold could have an option to make it like "alternate start - live a deviant life", where the screen is about 90% opaque, and periodically turns 50% or a bit less, I dunno the exact value. I think that would make it more of a "punishment", but then again, having it as an option would be ideal. On another note though, if you need someone to test very specific parts of the mod, don't hesitate to PM me. Right now I'm taking a bit of a time-out from HID, but I still have a bit of time to test. And it would be my pleasure to help make this mod what it's meant to be! Gag and blindfold should be back already at high levels of demerits. That's something you could test if you want Piss your Master off big time and see if they get equipped.
carthoris Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Nice work on this. I was hoping SD would evolve, and you've certainly delivered. Slavery would be such a major industry in a primitive place like Skyrim that I'm surprised some form of it wasn't included in the base game. Not Politically Correct, I suppose. Only annoyance (and maybe I didn't read the instructions carefully enough): it seems that I'm constantly getting pulled into Sanguine's dreamworld, when I'm not low on health. Even happens when I'm crushing my opponent, right in the middle of the death-stroke! Probably something I screwed up (or due to another mod, perhaps), but it would be nice to have some sort of config controlling the percent chance of it happening. Finally, as is a bad habit of mine, I have a couple of suggestions. These come to mind from two Oblivion mods I've used, which might be appropriate as part of SD. Anyway, in one mod, the PC is put in a cage and rich folk stand around watching as she's raped by wild animals. All the while, those rich SOB's are yelling out obnoxious insults. After her "performance", she's moved to another cage in the back until it's time to perform again. Might be interesting if the PC were to recognize one of the people in the audience as someone important, giving her leverage with that person on her escape. Or, that knowledge might serve as her Owner's quest: "If you set me free, I'll help you blackmail the Jarl. He comes here regularly!" Of course, the next time she tries that, at a different establishment, there might be... shall we say ... dire consequences? Not to mention what would happen if that deviant VIP should learn of her involvement in the blackmail scheme. Some extended sessions with the torturer (courtesy of ZAZ), methinks. The second mod I have in mind from Oblivion is unusual in that the PC's body odor shows up as a greenish cloud that gets heavier as the PC gets dirtier (bathing reverses the effect). It's not really SD related except that, as a slave, the PC would certainly get filthy, and stink to high heaven. Imagine if random comments from nearby NPC's reflected the degree of that stink. The PC can be given a choice to reduce the chance of rape by staying dirty (who'd want to come near her, never mind actually come into contact with her?), or ask the Owner to let her bathe. Should be some sort of health debuff while dirty, though. Also, she'd be more susceptible to disease. On second thought, it might be better as an addition to Realistic Needs, or even as a stand-alone mod, but either way, it would mesh perfectly with what's in SD. Just some food for thought. Anyway, bravo for all your hard work. It's appreciated,
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 Nice work on this. I was hoping SD would evolve, and you've certainly delivered. Slavery would be such a major industry in a primitive place like Skyrim that I'm surprised some form of it wasn't included in the base game. Not Politically Correct, I suppose. Slavery was very visible in Morrowind. This is not a Politically Correct issue. It is just that slavery was traditionally present only in Morrowind. It is supposed to be outlawed in the Skyrim province. I tried to respect that by having only NPCs with low morality interact with you as a slave. Only annoyance (and maybe I didn't read the instructions carefully enough): it seems that I'm constantly getting pulled into Sanguine's dreamworld, when I'm not low on health. Even happens when I'm crushing my opponent, right in the middle of the death-stroke! Probably something I screwed up (or due to another mod, perhaps), but it would be nice to have some sort of config controlling the percent chance of it happening. That should have been fixed in the last version (teleport to Sanguine during a kill move). Did you install the latest version on a fresh game? or did you upgrade an existing game with SD? Finally, as is a bad habit of mine, I have a couple of suggestions. These come to mind from two Oblivion mods I've used, which might be appropriate as part of SD. Anyway, in one mod, the PC is put in a cage and rich folk stand around watching as she's raped by wild animals. (...) An arena and some kind of animal fight / humiliation is planned. There are left over scripts for an incomplete arena fight already in the game. There are also several forts in Skyrim with animal fights in mind. These beg to be used. The second mod I have in mind from Oblivion is unusual in that the PC's body odor shows up as a greenish cloud that gets heavier as the PC gets dirtier (bathing reverses the effect). That would be better done as a separate mod, like I did with Hormones. I have enough on my plate with the long list of ideas already captured for SD+, and for my other mods Maybe that could become an extension of Hormones in ways of pheromones/repulsion someday.
aljustineg Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 how about the dance spell anyone getting some dance animation? the dance animation for me didnt show up no animation at all and when i get attack by a spriggan i just recieve a message about the spriggan scent then no sex animation the spriggan keeps on atking me and about getting enslave i just tried to piss my master and yes i did get gag bind and the rest of the restraints but when i talk to my master about the dialogue pleasing i dont get any animation but when i try to talk to a bandit and ask for him to unbind me then choose the word go to hell i did get the sex animation and also the need some company dialogue
Vithiss Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I haven't tried the dance spell (because, i think, that I forgot about it), however, I have used the Shall I dance for you, dialog option and have had an animation with that when the offer is accepted. The animation is pretty short, and the debug messages for it run on for quite a bit longer than the dance itself. My tests, I should note, for v.1.11 have not been while enslaved, just asking npcs in taverns and inns and such, in case that makes a difference.
Kariko Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I seem to be immortal now.... how should that be fixed???
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 I seem to be immortal now.... how should that be fixed??? Are you low on health? Do you have 'Essential when weakened' set in your menu? If you do, get your health back on track and you should be good to go. Also change the negative health buffer for 1x or less. If happens that some mods (like Requiem) make health change very slowly when it is negative, making it almost impossible to reach 3 times the base heath in negative value.
Kariko Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I seem to be immortal now.... how should that be fixed??? Are you low on health? Do you have 'Essential when weakened' set in your menu? If you do, get your health back on track and you should be good to go. Also change the negative health buffer for 1x or less. If happens that some mods (like Requiem) make health change very slowly when it is negative, making it almost impossible to reach 3 times the base heath in negative value. I don't have "essential when weakened" set. And i set the buffer to less than 1x no result. still cannot die. Health line goes to zero but I am totally fine
NTK Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I tried "Mod Organizer" but gave me some errors... uninstalled. Wrye and Tesedit seems to be too difficult to use for me and I think they need much time to understand After have installed SD+ still have crash starting Skyrim (before reaching the menu!) and I can't undestrand WHY? Requirements (from first SD): SexLab Framework ..........................................................................OK! I have version v138b Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE) v1.6.16....................................................OK! I have version v 1.7 Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS v4.0.....................................................OK! I have version v 4.1.1 SkyUI v3.4 (required for Mod Configuration Menu - MCM)...............OK! I have version v 4.1 A custom body replacer ( or a BBP version of another ) CBBE BBP by Caliente UNPB BBP by Calyps......................................... OK! I have this! A custom skeleton. Custom Skeleton Replacers by Skulltyrant Perfect 3-2 Skeleton by Ning XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS by xp32.................. OK! I have this! ZaZ-Animation-Pack (v005 min) ( ESM Must be enabled )..........OK??? I have V0054 ...but I can't understand what does it mean "ESM Must be enabled" I also installed SexLab Aroused 20140124 I used NMM for all in automatic; need to instal some manually??? I need to uninstall and install again the required mods and THEN install SD+??? SD+ seems to be the mod I was looking for but I can't use it... Help me please! This is my mod list:
alexvkj Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Hey, you are doing great job on that mod. I tried it couple of times observed some recurring odds: Bondage devices are not shown at the punishments scenes. The char plays all the animations nicely, but it just hangs somewhere in the air, not like in all he screenshot. Do I miss something? Enslaved-Quest stucks when I use "wait"-functionality too often. I managed to escape and get rid of schackles, but am still enslaved and thus don't get to Sanguine after sleep. Safe word don't help. I think, it could be a nice thought to forbid waiting while enslaved, but let player to adjust time scaling - like in Devious Regulations. So you can bring the "leash" back because it was sooo nice And the last question - it's about the custom slave rags. Is it enough just to put the meshes in the folder and rename to outfit_1_blah blah, or do I actually need to undertake changes in Creation Kit as the dialog in Configuration pane says?
Mdy Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 [...]After have installed SD+ still have crash starting Skyrim (before reaching the menu!) and I can't undestrand WHY?[...] Crashing before the main menu is the user's fault, a dependency/master is missing. I thought it would be the "SDpatch - frostfall.esp", but it doesn't have Frostfall as a master. It would be good if you would upload a screenshot with SD+ installed (or are my eyes too tired to see it?). Using NMM is totally worthless in finding errors and installing mods, with ModOrganizer you can find and solve overwriting errors quickly. As for TES5edit, it's simple as hell. Install it, now! Then load all your plugins at once. It'll tell you what is wrong. Alexvkj, about custom rags, just rename the meshes in the right folder create a Data\meshes\_SD_\custom\slave_rags folder, copy the _0 and _1 meshes (eg from an activated mod) in it and rename them to outfit_f_unpb_0.nif and outfit_f_unpb_1.nif (or cbbe). Skyrimll, ..but I had problems with the rags: When getting enslaved I had a belted tunic in my inv, the owner wanted to give me my own clothing item and it wasn't equipped. So I've reloaded the save while enslaved and before asking for clothes, deleted the item from the owners inventory and, when asking for something to wear, the trade window is empty. Even after a reloading, throwing away the clothes and getting enslaved again, the window is empty. Forced my char to wear the rags via clicking on her and typing "equipitem xx0963c2 1" ('Bondage Clothing') to test my custom meshes. Also my owner can't whip me. He's been mining, "Please" I said. He turned towards me, talked about whipping, walked some meters away and got navmeshes in a corner. Debug messages scrolled through without an animation and after the stop-whipping message he kept on mining. Won't help you that much, I suppose. If you want to repeat it, Bilegulch Mine, at the ore mine where it'll go downstairs (second pic).
asheevee Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm still not having luck with SD+. I fear I may have to reinstall the game and start 100% fresh for it to work. Is that a custom race showing emotions I see?
Mdy Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm still not having luck with SD+. I fear I may have to reinstall the game and start 100% fresh for it to work. Is that a custom race showing emotions I see? Don't reinstall the game immediately (but if you do, grab Mod Organizer, you won't have old scripts again and are able to see conflicting files). Try a new save instead. If that doesn't help, uninstall SD+ first and look for scripts from old SD versions. That's the mod 'CustomRaces' and 'mfg console' (console command "me 1 100"), if the answer is helpful. Skyrimll, next thing "limited removal": Meridian's beacon or unique items from mods which can break scripts ("Kace autoloot chest") got removed, but as you can see in the pics above, 'worthless' stuff like a cheap necklace is still in my inv. 1. Useless items weren't removed: Iron arrows, Necklace of Minor Stamina. 2. Good thing, following items with scripts attached weren't removed: Travel lantern (mod wearable lanterns), knapsack (knapsack mod) and SkyRe's "Unarmed" item (that's an equipable weapon for the unarmed fistfighting tree, can't be crafted or found). "What can I do to please you?": Dancing wasn't played as he watched me, just the 'bow' animation. Then he walked away. The messages are too fast to remember them, next time I'm taking screenshots. Two other things I've noticed: 1. "While enslaved getting enslaved" I'm bound and can pick up a weapon (done in unnoticed stealth mode). While still bound he's trying to kill me until I'm getting enslaved again. 2. And while bound there's only the Rough Doggy Style sex scene? One scene, and of all things anal.. I can tell you, my pregnancy mod isn't amused! edit: How great is this, I can set the custom rags as naked in SL Aroused! *evil grin* Overall great improvements in stability. Even if there are still bugs.
pinky6225 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Been trying to do the flowering spriggan quest and i'm up to stage 80 but i've been receiving [spriggan Slave Loop] Player is busy: 1 which I searched for and on the old thread it advised resetting the sexlab animation which I've done but it hasn't removed that message. First time doing the quest so dunno I'm missing something or whether everybody gets that error
katjezz Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Any way to stop Sanguine from bringing me to his realm? Everytime i sleep he does this and with RnD installed i cant get my Sleep-Need lower, always very tired.
Vithiss Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Got enslaved. Offering to dance for my owner: -dance animation played through -actors added to que -actors removed from que with no animations, however, opening the console I saw a list of six new aggressive animations, as if they had played. Was a "bad slave" and got sent back to Sanguine by my owner: I got Healing and Sanguine pulls you under his thumb (followed by a number that went up by one each time) after which I was transported to the entry of Sanguine's lair, I persisted until the count reached 50 before going back to a prior save. Whipping and Punishment animations freeze the camera (console tcf works) but the animations themselves appear to run as intended. In sex scenes with my owner I had to disable all three Arrok Foreplay animations in SL to keep them from running (6-8 times in a row). I didn't have Pre-sex Foreplay activated in SL, and didn't have the animations activated in the Agressive section at the time. I did get stuck with whipping scenes a couple of times when I interrupted my owner on the way to do some specific idle, like hammering at an armor workbench, but using the End Scene command fixed it immediately both times. Gift menu worked, both getting something to drink from my owner and giving something to my owner. Once, I did a 3 hour Wait, and then ported myself to my owner and she was about to walk into a village (Shor's Stone) though she didn't show that suicidal inclination otherwise (I was able to walk her back up the road to the fort). Hope that's helpful. Generally, it's getting better and better, and working better too. Thanks very much.
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 Any way to stop Sanguine from bringing me to his realm? Everytime i sleep he does this and with RnD installed i cant get my Sleep-Need lower, always very tired. That's a bug I have not been able to reproduce yet. Can you tell me more about what happened to your character before that point? How many times were you enslaved? Did you escape or join your Master? Was the enslavement smooth or chaotic?
Merdred44 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 I had both the "can't dance" and "everytime I tried to sleep teleported to Sanguine's realm" bugs. I fixed this by going into the scripts folder and deleting all the SD scripts there (a bunch of old ones, I'm guessing) then making a new character. I've had no problems since, so maybe you can try that...though don't hold me responsible if you delete something you shouldn't...lol. You might HAVE to make a new character, to clear the bugs this way, as I think scripts are permanent once character is created/saved. Likely you wouldn't be able to load an old save...but Im not 100% sure about that.
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 I had both the "can't dance" and "everytime I tried to sleep teleported to Sanguine's realm" bugs. I fixed this by going into the scripts folder and deleting all the SD scripts there (a bunch of old ones, I'm guessing) then making a new character. I've had no problems since, so maybe you can try that...though don't hold me responsible if you delete something you shouldn't...lol. You might HAVE to make a new character, to clear the bugs this way, as I think scripts are permanent once character is created/saved. Likely you wouldn't be able to load an old save...but Im not 100% sure about that. That could explain why I can't reproduce it. There should be no script starting with _sd in the script folder. All scripts have been moved into the BSA file.
asheevee Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 So I replaced my Data folder with a new one from Steam. Started fresh new save game any everything. Things appear to be working much better I can't seem to place it but I appear to be missing some features...things don't seem quite right. I still get the "Please?" dialogue option for my Owner which leads him to say "Watch it!" Close dialogue, run around or attack me. No one rapes me anymore...only when I initiate dialogue and am aggressive or passive. "Work for you" changes the quest to Indentured Servant but I don't notice any other differences. "Dance for you" doesn't seem to work, I get no animation save for the bow and then people just kind of ignore me. Although I wonder if this cave of bandits is special as they seem way more interested in mining/blacksmithing/grinding things than me.
hush2u2 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Hey, just wanted to say that I found a "fix" that worked for me regarding the bug where Sanguine drags you to his realm every time you sleep. Uninstall skyrim, manually delete its folder in My Documents (edit, oh and also whatever is left over in the installation folder after you uninstalled) and then freshly reinstall, that's what fixed it for me. Before when I had the glitch the MCM menu for SD didn't show the correct version of SD+, it was stuck on an old one. Now however it shows the current version number. Hope this helps someone. O _o Edit: aaaand I just saw someone posted the exact same thing a bit earlier. Oh well nvm me then ... xD
rizof Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks for your effort. Here is bug report. Covet = Works good. Dance = Dance animation works fine, but it seems still buggy. End of dance, vm say "actor is busy(-1)" and character only masterbate. Kill move = Still make character move to dreamworld. Maybe there are some conflict with "skyre", or vanilla. Mostly killing mage(or spell type enemy) occur this, especially they are using fire shield(?). Dreamworld = Sometimes, even if not being enslaved, character move to dreamworld when sleep. I do not confirm, but mostly, it works stable. Great work, skyrimll.
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