Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Kariko]

Previous version worked fine for me. Once I installed the new update the game started crashing at startup. 

I tried deinstalling the mod and starting a new game, to have a fresh save and then installing the mod again. Same result 

[jfraser]

Did you run fins and boss (or at least check the load order)?

[Kariko]

Did you run fins and boss (or at least check the load order)?

I did run FNIS. but i don't know what is boss (never needed anything like that before)  

 

P.S. found it, downloading now

 

P.P.S didn't help. 

[pyjinbom]

Make sure you have all of the required esps active. I think SexLab Aroused was added as a requirment since the last version.

[shinji72]

CTD right before you start Skyrim (before you're getting to the main menu) can only mean a missing dependency. There is some mod you've installed which require another mod which you have not installed (another mod or .esm or even dlc)

[NTK]

 

I followed all requirements but every time try to start... crash!

How can I solve?

 

(sorry for my bad english, it isn't my native language)

 

Welcome to the world of modding.

So you're crashing BEFORE you can load a savegame?

I'll suggest to use ModOrganizer, WryeBash and TES5edit - and you will immediatelly see which master is missing.

 

SexLab Aroused is now required as well.

 

Yes, it crash BEFORE I can see the menu!

I'll try to download one of the suggested programs...

[Kariko]

Make sure you have all of the required esps active. I think SexLab Aroused was added as a requirment since the last version.

 

That solved the problem. Works fine now.

 

Thank you ^____^

[zaira]

I strongly believe that SD / SD+ is to overloaded with triggers and monitoring - I think that is the reason why so many scenes stucks or fails.

 

Splitting SD up would be the best solution to stabilize the source - remove redundant stuff like prostitution, dancing and naked victims rape. Separate heavy scripted scenes like flowering spriggan into own mods. It is to bad to see you herding cats - version 1.11 and still everything is fragile - get rid of old habits - cut the mod.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

 

 

 

 

EDIT
Never mind, figured it out on my own. I made a spare files of outfit_f_0.nif at somewhere else that's not in Skyrim directory & I put the outfit I want in there so of course it's not gonna work. I'm such a dumbass!

BUT, I also figured out why it didn't worked for me for so long, I could've just created an empty file inside Slave rags, put the esps of the outfits I want inside there & then the Outfit_f_0, 1 &  Outfit_f_cbbe_0,1. Nobody even bothered to teach me this for more than a year until now?!!! For shame!

 

Anyways, thanks Skyrimll for helping.

 

If you're wondering about this invisible outfit, it's already in SD.

 

[aljustineg]

just tried the new version im not getting any sex animation on my master when i please him im also getting a message your captors grim smile (ithink) that shivers your spine but no animation  and also the  shall i dance daialogue doesnt work either no dance animation the need company dialogue works fine on any bandit except my owner i didnt get any sex animation

[zaira]

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

*lol* sorry - I can't help you but your screenshot is so cool - I love Skyrim...

[carnifex]

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

Sorry that I can't help you, but - where can I get this gear?

[Lyman the Lunatic]

 

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

*lol* sorry - I can't help you but your screenshot is so cool - I love Skyrim...

 

 

 

Nevermind, got it fixed now.

 

 

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

Sorry that I can't help you, but - where can I get this gear?

 

 

 

Here, I'll show you what it's supposed to look like. For some reason, it never worked properly on SD & nobody ever bothered to tell me why when I brought it up!

 

 

I don't think you can get this anymore, unless you have download J&C Pleasure Factory back when they were on Loverslab. I've heard that people here pissed them off so they left, taking the project along with them. Not sure how much of that is true though, I miss them, they are a creative bunch. I was looking forward to see the completion of the dungeon, excellent design to say the least.

[Nogurnot]

Ok So I downloaded the new version started a new game and it works, no crashing, however half the time I can not talk to my owner almost none of the animations are showing at all. I have pissed him off and got the anal beads, gag and blindfold on me. But other than that, I cant seem to get any of the animations to work. I am using defeat instead of submit now, because with submit and devioius devices was causing to many problems with SD+.  I have dangerous nights, but that never seemed to be an issue either. 

 

Bascially, everything runs fine except I am hardly getting to talk to my master, and no animations.  However when asking for food or drink it opens an inventory window now.

[Mdy]

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

 

EDIT

Never mind, figured it out on my own. I made a spare files of outfit_f_0.nif at somewhere else that's not in Skyrim directory & I put the outfit I want in there so of course it's not gonna work. I'm such a dumbass!

 

BUT, I also figured out why it didn't worked for me for so long, I could've just created an empty file inside Slave rags, put the esps of the outfits I want inside there & then the Outfit_f_0, 1 &  Outfit_f_cbbe_0,1. Nobody even bothered to teach me this for more than a year until now?!!! For shame!

 

Anyways, thanks Skyrimll for helping.

 

If you're wondering about this invisible outfit, it's already in SD.

 

I don't understand your description.

 

If I can still remember it, you just have to

1. create a Data\meshes\_SD_\custom\slave_rags folder,
2. copy the _0 and _1 meshes (eg from an activated mod) in it and
3. rename them to outfit_f_unpb_0.nif and ...1.nif (or cbbe).

    

[Lyman the Lunatic]

 

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

 

EDIT

Never mind, figured it out on my own. I made a spare files of outfit_f_0.nif at somewhere else that's not in Skyrim directory & I put the outfit I want in there so of course it's not gonna work. I'm such a dumbass!

 

BUT, I also figured out why it didn't worked for me for so long, I could've just created an empty file inside Slave rags, put the esps of the outfits I want inside there & then the Outfit_f_0, 1 &  Outfit_f_cbbe_0,1. Nobody even bothered to teach me this for more than a year until now?!!! For shame!

 

Anyways, thanks Skyrimll for helping.

 

If you're wondering about this invisible outfit, it's already in SD.

 

I don't understand your description.

 

If I can still remember it, you just have to

1. create a Data\meshes\_SD_\custom\slave_rags folder,
2. copy the _0 and _1 meshes (eg from an activated mod) in it and
3. rename them to outfit_f_unpb_0.nif and ...1.nif (or cbbe).

    

 

 

Wait, so I have to rename the esps of the outfit I want into outfit_f_cbbe_0 & 1 .nif? Because I didn't.

All I did was creating a file within Slave rags file, put the outfit esps I want inside that file I created inside Slave rags file, then I move outfit_f_0, outfit_f_1, outfit_f_cbbe_0 & outfit_f_cbbe_1 inside that file.

My directory was skyrim/data/meshes/_SD_/custom/slave rags/test   (test is the new folder I created)

[aljustineg]

Ok So I downloaded the new version started a new game and it works, no crashing, however half the time I can not talk to my owner almost none of the animations are showing at all. I have pissed him off and got the anal beads, gag and blindfold on me. But other than that, I cant seem to get any of the animations to work. I am using defeat instead of submit now, because with submit and devioius devices was causing to many problems with SD+.  I have dangerous nights, but that never seemed to be an issue either. 

 

Bascially, everything runs fine except I am hardly getting to talk to my master, and no animations.  However when asking for food or drink it opens an inventory window now.

did you see any animations when you use the need some company dialogue on the bandit except your owner?

[Mdy]

laomaster, the only place where Skyrim will load an esp is in the Data folder. You can delete it from the custom path - only the *.nif files are important.

I'll install SD+ later and will see if my steps are still correct.

[carnifex]

 

I don't think you can get this anymore, unless you have download J&C Pleasure Factory back when they were on Loverslab. I've heard that people here pissed them off so they left, taking the project along with them. Not sure how much of that is true though, I miss them, they are a creative bunch. I was looking forward to see the completion of the dungeon, excellent design to say the least.

 

 

 

Oh, ouch! That's too bad, the harness looks awesome Most bondage gear available for Skyrim looks very sleek and fetish-y, and that's fine, but I have a thing for heavy and menacing restraints, which don't seem too popular with modders. Alas.

 

Thanks for the info

[Nogurnot]

 

Ok So I downloaded the new version started a new game and it works, no crashing, however half the time I can not talk to my owner almost none of the animations are showing at all. I have pissed him off and got the anal beads, gag and blindfold on me. But other than that, I cant seem to get any of the animations to work. I am using defeat instead of submit now, because with submit and devioius devices was causing to many problems with SD+.  I have dangerous nights, but that never seemed to be an issue either. 

 

Bascially, everything runs fine except I am hardly getting to talk to my master, and no animations.  However when asking for food or drink it opens an inventory window now.

did you see any animations when you use the need some company dialogue on the bandit except your owner?

 

 

I don't even get that option for the other bandits or bad guys

 

not to mention animals are trying to enslave me now.

 

I will again uninstall and wait for the next update to try again.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Ok So I downloaded the new version started a new game and it works, no crashing, however half the time I can not talk to my owner almost none of the animations are showing at all. I have pissed him off and got the anal beads, gag and blindfold on me. But other than that, I cant seem to get any of the animations to work. I am using defeat instead of submit now, because with submit and devioius devices was causing to many problems with SD+.  I have dangerous nights, but that never seemed to be an issue either. 

 

Bascially, everything runs fine except I am hardly getting to talk to my master, and no animations.  However when asking for food or drink it opens an inventory window now.

did you see any animations when you use the need some company dialogue on the bandit except your owner?

 

 

I don't even get that option for the other bandits or bad guys

 

not to mention animals are trying to enslave me now.

 

I will again uninstall and wait for the next update to try again.

 

 

I don't know why your owner is not talking to you but (failed) enslavement attempts from animals are normal.

 

They are usually followed by a rape attempt which will succeed 20% of the time if you are naked / wearing unarmored clothing or bindings (for animals without hands like wolves) or just 20% of the time for creatures with hands like trolls.

 

Cats, bears and creatures from DLCs are excluded (cats and bears because that kind of rape didn't make sense to me from these type of creatures, and DLC/ DB /Dawnguard creatures because I didn't want to add DB/Dawnguard as a requirement yet).

[DeepBlueFrog]

any video,just to see this mod in action before downloading

 

No video - sorry. But there are a lot of screenshots on the download page for SD+.

I have a lot more screenshots I haven't shared yet.

 

^{one question: when i ask a clother from master. I just can pick it form master's inventory.How can i wear it}

 

It should be equipped automatically.

I noticed it is not working with some clothing, including the slave clothing from SD itself.

Using the gift menu to select more options of clothing from the master is a new feature. I will have to figure out why it is not working for everything.

 

I strongly believe that SD / SD+ is to overloaded with triggers and monitoring - I think that is the reason why so many scenes stucks or fails.

 

Splitting SD up would be the best solution to stabilize the source - remove redundant stuff like prostitution, dancing and naked victims rape. Separate heavy scripted scenes like flowering spriggan into own mods. It is to bad to see you herding cats - version 1.11 and still everything is fragile - get rid of old habits - cut the mod.

 

Splitting the mod will not do much to reduce the triggers - the heavily scripted scenes happen only when they are triggered. They would be triggered just as well from a separate module. In other word, they are dormant as long as they are not triggered. 

 

What is causing the issue is simple - I don't have time to do in depth testing of everything I work on. Some changes require a full start over of the enslavement sequence if not a full restart of the mod. That takes time.

 

The only thing that could help with stabilizing the mod faster is... help More modders, more eyes on the code, more experienced people pointing at what I missed.

 

If I am splitting the code at this point, I may as well write the whole thing from scratch again - not going to happen

 

 

I was trying to get the custom outfit to work & this is what I've got. Any help?

Sorry that I can't help you, but - where can I get this gear?

 

 

Sorry to hear that these chains are no longer available.

They would look great as a default slave outfit.

[asheevee]

I'm having weird issues too.  I installed over old SD but tried older saves that didn't have it before and a new game and I still get issues...

Eventually the only option I can say to my owner is "Please?" and that really pisses him off for some reason.  He whips me then I can't initiate dialogue at all.

 

I can talk to other bandits but I can only ask for help or ask to join them.  Asking for help leads to nothing and asking to join leads to all the bandits attacking me.

[Nogurnot]

 

 

 

Ok So I downloaded the new version started a new game and it works, no crashing, however half the time I can not talk to my owner almost none of the animations are showing at all. I have pissed him off and got the anal beads, gag and blindfold on me. But other than that, I cant seem to get any of the animations to work. I am using defeat instead of submit now, because with submit and devioius devices was causing to many problems with SD+.  I have dangerous nights, but that never seemed to be an issue either. 

 

Bascially, everything runs fine except I am hardly getting to talk to my master, and no animations.  However when asking for food or drink it opens an inventory window now.

did you see any animations when you use the need some company dialogue on the bandit except your owner?

 

 

I don't even get that option for the other bandits or bad guys

 

not to mention animals are trying to enslave me now.

 

I will again uninstall and wait for the next update to try again.

 

 

I don't know why your owner is not talking to you but (failed) enslavement attempts from animals are normal.

 

They are usually followed by a rape attempt which will succeed 20% of the time if you are naked / wearing unarmored clothing or bindings (for animals without hands like wolves) or just 20% of the time for creatures with hands like trolls.

 

Cats, bears and creatures from DLCs are excluded (cats and bears because that kind of rape didn't make sense to me from these type of creatures, and DLC/ DB /Dawnguard creatures because I didn't want to add DB/Dawnguard as a requirement yet).

 

 

Ok well that is good to know about the animals, however the wolves just kept attacking.

 

I guess ill give it another try. I love this mod, and I would love to use it.

 

I do have one question, does this work better with Sexlab submit or Sexlab Defeat?  I know I am running Dangerous nights however I have it set for rare rapes. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

 

Ok So I downloaded the new version started a new game and it works, no crashing, however half the time I can not talk to my owner almost none of the animations are showing at all. I have pissed him off and got the anal beads, gag and blindfold on me. But other than that, I cant seem to get any of the animations to work. I am using defeat instead of submit now, because with submit and devioius devices was causing to many problems with SD+.  I have dangerous nights, but that never seemed to be an issue either. 

 

Bascially, everything runs fine except I am hardly getting to talk to my master, and no animations.  However when asking for food or drink it opens an inventory window now.

did you see any animations when you use the need some company dialogue on the bandit except your owner?

 

 

I don't even get that option for the other bandits or bad guys

 

not to mention animals are trying to enslave me now.

 

I will again uninstall and wait for the next update to try again.

 

 

I don't know why your owner is not talking to you but (failed) enslavement attempts from animals are normal.

 

They are usually followed by a rape attempt which will succeed 20% of the time if you are naked / wearing unarmored clothing or bindings (for animals without hands like wolves) or just 20% of the time for creatures with hands like trolls.

 

Cats, bears and creatures from DLCs are excluded (cats and bears because that kind of rape didn't make sense to me from these type of creatures, and DLC/ DB /Dawnguard creatures because I didn't want to add DB/Dawnguard as a requirement yet).

 

 

Ok well that is good to know about the animals, however the wolves just kept attacking.

 

I guess ill give it another try. I love this mod, and I would love to use it.

 

I do have one question, does this work better with Sexlab submit or Sexlab Defeat?  I know I am running Dangerous nights however I have it set for rare rapes. 

 

 

I haven't used Submit much.

 

You can configure Defeat to play nice with SD by keeping SD's health threshold very low (5%) and having Defeat on:

 

- PC as victim - scenario Health threshold (not the default)

- Health threshold - 30%

- Min health threshold - 10%

 

That way Defeat will stop 5% before SD kicks in.

 

In any case, expect to have issues when using multiple combat rape mods at the same time. The scripting engine gets overwhelmed sometimes and multiple mods start kicking in at the same time.