Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

On 2/23/2019 at 10:19 PM, Fourier42 said:

I can't speak for the other person, but I am still enslaved at that point. Sorry, I wasn't terribly clear in y last post. I get the dialogue option to give him the mead. He takes it and drinks it, but then he doesn't appear to do anything differently than a normal owner.

 

Also, I was given the "Truth" quest at the same time, and got to the point where I need to talk to Sanguine about the Alicias. I can not seem to get this dialogue option. Maybe because I'm enslaved? I bring it up just in case that helps you identify a potential issue.

Thanks!!

What does 'sqs _sd_dream' give you in the console?

 

 

[Fourier42]

1 hour ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

What does 'sqs _sd_dream' give you in the console?

 

 

All are zero except the following: 0, 10, 200, 202, 226, 232, 234, & 252.

[DIO over Za Warudo]

So I finally got everything installed and (maybe?) working, and I tried your suggestion to see if Sanguine's gender would be fluid. 

 

So far all I've gotten is Male Sanguine and no Female Sanguine. And in addition to that, I seem to be getting stuck in animation loops whenever I enter a SexLab animation in the Dreamworld, where the animation will get stuck on repeat even after the scene is supposed to have ended. The free camera setting turns off like it usually does when the scene ends, but my character was stuck giving Sanguine a blowjob for the rest of eternity until I exited the game.

I also have not been able to actually get out of the Dreamworld after Sanguine frees me. Though that might just be from the fact that I can't seem to find any visible exits, and the pull chain doesn't do anything.

 

Not sure what happened, as I installed everything according to the instructions on the FAQ. 

[Fuzzy_Fox]

11 hours ago, Aizen525 said:

So I finally got everything installed and (maybe?) working, and I tried your suggestion to see if Sanguine's gender would be fluid. 

 

So far all I've gotten is Male Sanguine and no Female Sanguine. And in addition to that, I seem to be getting stuck in animation loops whenever I enter a SexLab animation in the Dreamworld, where the animation will get stuck on repeat even after the scene is supposed to have ended. The free camera setting turns off like it usually does when the scene ends, but my character was stuck giving Sanguine a blowjob for the rest of eternity until I exited the game.

I also have not been able to actually get out of the Dreamworld after Sanguine frees me. Though that might just be from the fact that I can't seem to find any visible exits, and the pull chain doesn't do anything.

 

Not sure what happened, as I installed everything according to the instructions on the FAQ. 

I managed to get Sanguine to be fluid gender and its how you set up SD+. Here are pictures of my settings. 

 

 

When my character was male Sanguine was female, and when my character became female Sanguine went back to being male. If Sexlabs is set to bisexual then Sanguine will change how he/she feels like it. 

[Kira_of_Tilgia]

I tried to see if this has been mentioned before, but couldn't find anything. I'm having a problem with the new version where slavery isn't happening. I've tried using simple slavery, the "I need a strong hand" dialogue and also surrendering. In all three cases the NPC who should become my master merely fucks my character and then wanders off. I'm wondering if the newest version is maybe not compatible with something else I have recently updated, or with something I've had for ages that hasn't been updated and is no longer compatible, or if it's a load order issue. For the record I am using vortex for my mod manager. I'm probably just going to try reverting back to the previous version of SD. Oh, and also, I did start a COMPLETELY new game. My menu doesn't give the same options it used to for sanguine and master genders, if that has any significance.

 

If this issue doesn't jump out at anyone as a "ohhey I had that problem and this should be how to fix it" thing, feel free to ignore this and I will assume I screwed something up with load order or requirements, which I am continuing to attempt to try adjusting to see if something fixes this.

[Fourier42]

5 hours ago, Kira_of_Tilgia said:

If this issue doesn't jump out at anyone as a "ohhey I had that problem and this should be how to fix it" thing, feel free to ignore this and I will assume I screwed something up with load order or requirements, which I am continuing to attempt to try adjusting to see if something fixes this.

FWIW, I have a boatload of the DD-type stuff running, and I use LOOT to set up my load order. I have never seen this issue. It might be a stupid question, but is your mod order program updated? That could be the issue. Good luck!!

[DeepBlueFrog]

On 3/1/2019 at 12:05 AM, Kira_of_Tilgia said:

I tried to see if this has been mentioned before, but couldn't find anything. I'm having a problem with the new version where slavery isn't happening. I've tried using simple slavery, the "I need a strong hand" dialogue and also surrendering. In all three cases the NPC who should become my master merely fucks my character and then wanders off. I'm wondering if the newest version is maybe not compatible with something else I have recently updated, or with something I've had for ages that hasn't been updated and is no longer compatible, or if it's a load order issue. For the record I am using vortex for my mod manager. I'm probably just going to try reverting back to the previous version of SD. Oh, and also, I did start a COMPLETELY new game. My menu doesn't give the same options it used to for sanguine and master genders, if that has any significance.

 

If this issue doesn't jump out at anyone as a "ohhey I had that problem and this should be how to fix it" thing, feel free to ignore this and I will assume I screwed something up with load order or requirements, which I am continuing to attempt to try adjusting to see if something fixes this.

When you start a new game, did you save and reload after starting SD? if you don't and start playing right away, SD is not fully initialized.

On 2/26/2019 at 9:53 PM, Fourier42 said:

All are zero except the following: 0, 10, 200, 202, 226, 232, 234, & 252.

That's weird.

Stage 200 is where the first enslavement from Sanguine happened. 

Stage 202 is where you game him mead to stop enslavement.

 

One of the conditions to stop enslavement did not trigger apparently. I looked at them but I can't see why they wouldn't work in your case.

 

How did you start your game and got send to Sanguine?

 

Is your character male or female?

What race is your character?

[Fourier42]

1 hour ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

That's weird.

Stage 200 is where the first enslavement from Sanguine happened. 

Stage 202 is where you game him mead to stop enslavement.

 

One of the conditions to stop enslavement did not trigger apparently. I looked at them but I can't see why they wouldn't work in your case.

 

How did you start your game and got send to Sanguine?

 

Is your character male or female?

What race is your character?

I start all of my games with Live Another Life. Both times I tried this was after sleeping. Once in a random bed and once in front of his shrine. My character is a Breton female.

[DeepBlueFrog]

9 minutes ago, Fourier42 said:

I start all of my games with Live Another Life. Both times I tried this was after sleeping. Once in a random bed and once in front of his shrine. My character is a Breton female.

If it's not too late, can you share an error log?

[Fourier42]

7 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

If it's not too late, can you share an error log?

Sure thing! …. but how do I do that... sorry.

 

[Straze]

Hmmm, I'm running into a problem with Sanguine in the Sanguine Grove area. 
I arrived there after getting killed by a dragon. I got enslaved and stayed there for 6 days straight because there was no way out. After getting to level 2 in Slave Ranking, I got the following dialogue options;

- Staying Enslaved to Sanguine

- Leave but join the Faction

- Leaving and not joining the Faction.
Since the first Dialogue doesn't let me explore outside of the Sanguine Grove, I had chosen the second option. Unfortunately that removes the quest "Enslaved" and I'm free again (I'd like keep being his slave and being able to spent time outside Sanguine Grove if possible).

 

I noticed my quest marker below a black portal like gate that I can not access. Was it meant to be a portal from / to Sanguine Grove, as you could actually explore Skyrim and get the requirements for his orders (food / valuables)? It was quite a pain having to stay inside Sanguine Grove until the slave rank was lvl 2. 

 

If it is a portal and somehow my game is bugged, does someone know how to fix it?

p.s. it didn't work the moment I got there, I tried the moving through it to see what would happen when I arrived in Sanguine Grove.

[donttouchmethere]

 

Sure thing! …. but how do I do that... sorry. 

 

basicly you do this in skyrim.ini:

bEnableLogging = 0                    => 1

bEnableTrace = 0                         => 1

bLoadDebugInformation = 0       => 1

this will create a papyrus.0.log

more info here @Psalam blog:

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7650-papyrus-logs/

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Sure thing! …. but how do I do that... sorry.

 

Follow these instructions: https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/wiki/FAQ#q-you-said-something-about-papyrus-logs-how-do-i-do-that

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Hmmm, I'm running into a problem with Sanguine in the Sanguine Grove area. 
I arrived there after getting killed by a dragon. I got enslaved and stayed there for 6 days straight because there was no way out. After getting to level 2 in Slave Ranking, I got the Dialogue of Staying Enslaved to Sanguine, or leave but join the Faction, or Leaving and not joining the Faction.
Since the first Dialogue doesn't let me explore outside of the Sanguine Grove, I chose the second option. Unfortunately that removes the quest "Enslaved" and I'm free again.

 

I noticed my quest marker below a black portal like gate that I can not access. Was it meant to be a portal from / to Sanguine Grove, as you could actually explore Skyrim and get the requirements for his orders (food / valuables)? It was quite a pain having to stay inside Sanguine Grove until the slave rank was lvl 2. 

 

If it is a portal and somehow my game is bugged, does someone know how to fix it?

Try this in the console and see if that opens up new dialogues with Sanguine:

 

setstage _sd_dream 202

 

What happened is that you were supposed to give Sanguine some mead and be released automatically. For some reason, the early release didn't work.

[Fourier42]

 

Follow these instructions: https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/wiki/FAQ#q-you-said-something-about-papyrus-logs-how-do-i-do-that

Oh I'm an idiot. I thought you meant a specific SD+ error log. >.< Sorry!!

I generated this file on a new save. I immediately went to his shrine and slept there. I got to the point where I give him the mead and he says that it hits the spot. I've uploaded it here. Let me know what else you need!

Papyrus.0.log

[Straze]

 

Try this in the console and see if that opens up new dialogues with Sanguine:

 

setstage _sd_dream 202

 

What happened is that you were supposed to give Sanguine some mead and be released automatically. For some reason, the early release didn't work.

Hmmm....
I tried but nothing happened when I entered the code.

 

When I first talk to Sanguine, The quest "The Truth" starts and I get enslaved by Sanguine (SD+ enslavement feature). It indeed does tell me to give him mead, including the specify Dialogue options when I have Mead in my inventory. He just accepts it and that is it, nothing follows.

 

Don't know if anything could be the cause for it, but I'm using SL Hormones and got infected by the curse: Bimbo & Succubus (early stage). 

I'm also wearing the "Slut Collar" from DCL.

 

-Hopefully I didn't skip any story somehow-

Currently I have some progression in story but did require me to leave the Enslavement. The dialogue "Why am I here again" is shown and in the end he equipes some DD items on the PC and throws you into the Skyrim world (not if you resist). Than you have the option "What do you want from me" and he starts talking about me having assisted him with some Prince Dominion I never met. Afterwards, he sends you to Riften (to Healga)? ?

 

Perhaps the Dialogue option "Why am I here again" should come after giving the mead (which wasn't the case until I ended the "Enslavement").

[hyper15]

So I didnt quite understand what it meant on the front page, but do I need DAYMOYL if im using Defeat?
Im getting all the mods together in a new game and wanted to know if I need it.

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, hyper15 said:

So I didnt quite understand what it meant on the front page, but do I need DAYMOYL if im using Defeat?
Im getting all the mods together in a new game and wanted to know if I need it.

Unless I missed a recent update, Defeat does not trigger SD Enslavement directly upon defeat. You will have to manually trigger enslavement with the Submit key from SD if you want to be enslaved that way.

 

What Death Alternative gives you with the automatic enslavement when defeated.

 

Both work well together. I have been using them at the same time for a long time.

[DeepBlueFrog]

16 hours ago, Lojjex said:

Hmmm....
I tried but nothing happened when I entered the code.

 

When I first talk to Sanguine, The quest "The Truth" starts and I get enslaved by Sanguine (SD+ enslavement feature). It indeed does tell me to give him mead, including the specify Dialogue options when I have Mead in my inventory. He just accepts it and that is it, nothing follows.

 

Don't know if anything could be the cause for it, but I'm using SL Hormones and got infected by the curse: Bimbo & Succubus (early stage). 

I'm also wearing the "Slut Collar" from DCL.

 

-Hopefully I didn't skip any story somehow-

Currently I have some progression in story but did require me to leave the Enslavement. The dialogue "Why am I here again" is shown and in the end he equipes some DD items on the PC and throws you into the Skyrim world (not if you resist). Than you have the option "What do you want from me" and he starts talking about me having assisted him with some Prince Dominion I never met. Afterwards, he sends you to Riften (to Healga)? ?

 

Perhaps the Dialogue option "Why am I here again" should come after giving the mead (which wasn't the case until I ended the "Enslavement").

"Why am I here again" is set to come after you give the mead AND after you are released from enslavement. I don't want to send people back out in Tamriel while enslaved to Sanguine.

[Straze]

2 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

"Why am I here again" is set to come after you give the mead AND after you are released from enslavement. I don't want to send people back out in Tamriel while enslaved to Sanguine.

Ah that's why. I didn't know you had to leave the enslavement to be able to progress. Sorry, my bad.

Thanks for the quick replies ^^

[Kira_of_Tilgia]

DeepBlueFrog, I did indeed, I actually found, I think, your guide. I hadn't been doing it correctly for years, unfortunately that doesn't seem to have been the source of this bug. Honestly, for all I know this could be a bizarre conflict between SD and like... Loot and Degradation, or Sneak Tools. Though in my MCM menu there is a couple of settings where you check whether to have Sanguine's artifact or something and then click the word "Begin" or something to that effect, which causes a pop up and that section of the menu to be replaced by some commentary or another.

 

I first noticed the issue after recently updating a few of my loverslab mods. I think I might just attempt, once more, to start from near scratch... On that token, is there any reason testing my non LL mods first and making sure they are running smoothly before going back and starting to add in my LL mods would be a bad approach?

_________________

 

Hmm, Did some research on mods that tend to give LL mods trouble and discovered I had an offender. Specifically Better Vampires. I found this because someone was kind enough to mention they had problems because of that after including it with Milk Mod Economy which I recently added to my current load order. Trying to a new save with that not included and will report back if that seems to fix the problem.

_________________

 

IT WORKED.

 

I did not have the problem before I added Milk Mod back in and updated SD, but with that combo for me at least, enslavement wasn't working. Took Better Vampires out of the equation and BOOM. Everything is working again. And so much more smoothly! Woot Woot!

[hyper15]

21 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Unless I missed a recent update, Defeat does not trigger SD Enslavement directly upon defeat. You will have to manually trigger enslavement with the Submit key from SD if you want to be enslaved that way.

 

What Death Alternative gives you with the automatic enslavement when defeated.

 

Both work well together. I have been using them at the same time for a long time.

Ok so, if I wanted to use them both, how would I need to set them up in the MCM menu?

[Fuzzy_Fox]

1 hour ago, Kira_of_Tilgia said:

DeepBlueFrog, I did indeed, I actually found, I think, your guide. I hadn't been doing it correctly for years, unfortunately that doesn't seem to have been the source of this bug. Honestly, for all I know this could be a bizarre conflict between SD and like... Loot and Degradation, or Sneak Tools. Though in my MCM menu there is a couple of settings where you check whether to have Sanguine's artifact or something and then click the word "Begin" or something to that effect, which causes a pop up and that section of the menu to be replaced by some commentary or another.

 

I first noticed the issue after recently updating a few of my loverslab mods. I think I might just attempt, once more, to start from near scratch... On that token, is there any reason testing my non LL mods first and making sure they are running smoothly before going back and starting to add in my LL mods would be a bad approach?

_________________

 

Hmm, Did some research on mods that tend to give LL mods trouble and discovered I had an offender. Specifically Better Vampires. I found this because someone was kind enough to mention they had problems because of that after including it with Milk Mod Economy which I recently added to my current load order. Trying to a new save with that not included and will report back if that seems to fix the problem.

_________________

 

IT WORKED.

 

I did not have the problem before I added Milk Mod back in and updated SD, but with that combo for me at least, enslavement wasn't working. Took Better Vampires out of the equation and BOOM. Everything is working again. And so much more smoothly! Woot Woot!

As much as I like Better Vampires it doesn't like to play nice with other mods in the MCM. I had to remove it due to problems with my game and its conflict with several mods I use. 

[Xiaron]

17 hours ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

As much as I like Better Vampires it doesn't like to play nice with other mods in the MCM. I had to remove it due to problems with my game and its conflict with several mods I use. 

I've had Better Vampires issues too in the past. Load order is really important with that mod to make sure nothing is conflicting badly. I'm currently running Better Vampires, MME and SD+ all at the same time just fine.

[Storm18]

Mod is great, but I have one problem. In sex animations started by this mod the characters are switched, so instead of my PC being fucked by her owner she fucks her owner with a strapon. How do I fix that?