Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[deadmetal]

16 hours ago, Razuryam said:

Excuse me i really need help with a problem with animations, everytime i try to kneel or crawl this message is showed "[SD] Problem with position:".

 

Im using ZaZ animation pack 7. Simple Slavery, Death Alternative, Devius Devices "assets-Integration-Expansion" in their last versions

 

Ive been intalling this mods several time and running FNIS. and i dont know what else to do. and yes ive been reading the post of bugs and problems, and also the whole page of the mod and i cannot find a solution.

 

So far my Character can be Slaved and all, the problem is this "[SD] Problem with position:". everytime i try to kneel and crawl that message is showed and well without those animation i cannot progress in the slavery.

 

I really wanna try this mod, and ive been really triying to make it work, i even unistalled my devious framework triying to see if that fix it and nothing.

So pls someone, anybody can help me or knows why is this happening?  

 

 

PT: Just to be clear I have all the mods that are required for SD to work, i just mention some of them because i didnt wanna overextend the msg but if is needed i will.

 

 How many animation packs are you running? you might have clogged up the animation slots available in FNIS

[Fuzzy_Fox]

Just had a strange occurrence with Sanguine.

 

My second visit to his DreamWorld and he says "I am not quite ready yet to continue." Then he sent me back to my Inn Room that I had rented. Usually he/she sends me to Helga's Bunkhouse basement.  

[Razuryam]

5 hours ago, deadmetal said:

 How many animation packs are you running? you might have clogged up the animation slots available in FNIS

I was about to install PCA and PCEA 2 but i didnt cause i thought it could make problems. now the ones that i have installed are

 

More Nasty Creatures for Creature Framework, Sexlab, Zaz animation pack, Devious Integration (with assets and expansion). 

 

PT: Uninstalled  SD and ZaZ anim pack v7.0 and simple slavery, Then i installed ZaZ animation pack V8 Devius Framework and simple slavery with devious Framework support, start a new game and wait until everything is loaded and then i saved. After that i installed SD, load the save and now is working xD. well it made the same problem at the begining but in the end start working. would lie if i say that i know why is working now but... its something xD

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

On 2/11/2019 at 6:09 PM, Aizen525 said:

Out of curiosity, did you ever figure out how to make Sanguine gender-fluid like you mentioned a while ago? As in he appears male sometimes, but other times appears female?

 

Cause I'm planning a succubus character at some point (once I figure out how I'm supposed to get everything set up), and part of her backstory involves her having been corrupted by Sanguine to become a succubus (she was originally a Daughter of Coldharbour) so I figured I'd install this mod for the chance to have her occasionally pop into the Dreamworld and worship her "god" so to speak.  And since she'd definitely be very hypersexual (she doesn't care who or what fucks her, so long as she gets fucked) I think it would fit to have Sanguine appear to her as either gender (or possibly futa too) depending on the Prince's mood. 

 

If you haven't implemented it yet, I'm still probably going to install this mod, but I figured I'd ask to satisfy my curiosity.

That feature should be working already if you enable no gender restriction in the menu.

 

That said, I haven't seen Sanguine switch much lately in my tests so I should probably double check that.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

6 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

That feature should be working already if you enable no gender restriction in the menu.

 

That said, I haven't seen Sanguine switch much lately in my tests so I should probably double check that.

I have managed to get Sanguine to be a female with my male bosmer with these settings. Not sure if Sanguine will become male until my character makes the change to female. Sanguine and I have a little competition, its called "How far can I get in the game before my character becomes a full succubus using the psq mod.". 

[MikeyD28]

On ‎1‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 7:47 AM, DeepBlueFrog said:

You will need both SD+ and Death Alternative to be enslaved automatically after being defeated.

 

By itself, SD+ does not handle combat outcomes anymore. You would have to use the surrender key manually to submit to the NPC who defeats you at the right moment.

Does this mean that the only way for me to be enslaved by the enemies who defeat me is to manually submit to them?  I have SL Defeat.  I'm just not sure after going through the menus on all three mods: Defeat, SD+, and Death Alternative how I need to set it up to where when, say bandits defeat me, I become their slaves.  I have all the required mods.  So I feel like it's something I'm not doing in the settings.

[Nohrin]

Whenever I am about to be enslaved, the Safeword feature automatically initiates and ends the enslavement. My character is stipped all of her gear, but the enslavement is over, and my would be master has no master related dialogue. The MCM status page even says I am not enslaved.

 

I don't get it. Why is this happening? Is this a bug that has been brought up before? It's impossible for me to read every single page. And searching "Safeword" in google or on this support topic only brings up people suggesting to use Safeword to fix other unrelated problems.

 

Edit: I seem to have fixed it myself. After telling me I have been freed (because of the auto Safeword), I went into the MCM and used Safeword myself. This cleaned everything up, and on the next Surrender, it went through the enslavement process normally. The problem however is my items are gone. I am pretty sure they won't be waiting for me in the Dreamworld, or when I am released from my master as the items were removed from the previous enslavement attempt (the one which automatically was safeworded).

[DeepBlueFrog]

57 minutes ago, Nohrin said:

Whenever I am about to be enslaved, the Safeword feature automatically initiates and ends the enslavement. My character is stipped all of her gear, but the enslavement is over, and my would be master has no master related dialogue. The MCM status page even says I am not enslaved.

 

I don't get it. Why is this happening? Is this a bug that has been brought up before? It's impossible for me to read every single page. And searching "Safeword" in google or on this support topic only brings up people suggesting to use Safeword to fix other unrelated problems.

 

Edit: I seem to have fixed it myself. After telling me I have been freed (because of the auto Safeword), I went into the MCM and used Safeword myself. This cleaned everything up, and on the next Surrender, it went through the enslavement process normally. The problem however is my items are gone. I am pretty sure they won't be waiting for me in the Dreamworld, or when I am released from my master as the items were removed from the previous enslavement attempt (the one which automatically was safeworded).

There is a small chance items are moved to your master if he/she dies in front of you, so if you miss that and the master is cleared by the game, you will indeed lose your items.

Other than that, they will likely be in Dreamworld regardless how enslavement ends.

[Nohrin]

4 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

There is a small chance items are moved to your master if he/she dies in front of you, so if you miss that and the master is cleared by the game, you will indeed lose your items.

Other than that, they will likely be in Dreamworld regardless how enslavement ends.

I tried killing my master, but the items did not show up (do they appear immediately on death, or after a several second - few minutes? I waited 10-20 seconds after death). So what I did was figure out the refID of the Slave Locker, and wrote it down. I can do "prid <refid of the Slave Locker>" and then "removeallitems player" to have all the items sent back to me. Perhaps adding a feature to the MCM to deposit the stored items to your inventory would be ideal?

 

I'm more concerned about why the Safeword started triggering by itself. I haven't been able to replicate it after fixing it just now. Might be a one off bug. I will let you know if it happens again.

[Xiaron]

18 hours ago, MikeyD28 said:

Does this mean that the only way for me to be enslaved by the enemies who defeat me is to manually submit to them?  I have SL Defeat.  I'm just not sure after going through the menus on all three mods: Defeat, SD+, and Death Alternative how I need to set it up to where when, say bandits defeat me, I become their slaves.  I have all the required mods.  So I feel like it's something I'm not doing in the settings.

What it means, is that the setting for DA in Defeat needs to be set so post defeat, the handover to DA happens, then in DA there should be a setting in blackout I think that sends you to SD+ on a configurable chance. If you hit the percentages for both options (Defeat to DA, DA to SD+) then your PC gets enslaved. Otherwise one of the other options should happen. Try setting DA chances to 100% and SD+ enslavement to 100%. If post getting defeated doesn't enslave you then you have a problem. Otherwise adjust chances as needed.

[Nohrin]

So right now, the majority of the times my owner abuses my female character, my female character takes the role of a male and begins using a strap-on against my male owner. How do I change this so my female character is always the one to get fucked? This doesn't always happen however. I would say 7/10 times my character takes the role of a male.

 

In Sexlab my character is considered female. I see no option in the MCM to let it know that I am female.

 

Edit: Another problem I am having is that punishments seem to be stacking. If I do something to be punished, my owner will whip me while put me in a cage (or hang me from the ceiling), or will for example rape me while whipping me. Or any other combination. Seems two different punishments happen at same time.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

There are times when my character gets called to Sanguine that all the enemy npcs will become friendly towards me. I have not joined Sanguines faction nor been enslaved to any other npcs to of joined them. 

[chubjub]

13 hours ago, Nohrin said:

So right now, the majority of the times my owner abuses my female character, my female character takes the role of a male and begins using a strap-on against my male owner. How do I change this so my female character is always the one to get fucked? This doesn't always happen however. I would say 7/10 times my character takes the role of a male.

 

In Sexlab my character is considered female. I see no option in the MCM to let it know that I am female.

 

Edit: Another problem I am having is that punishments seem to be stacking. If I do something to be punished, my owner will whip me while put me in a cage (or hang me from the ceiling), or will for example rape me while whipping me. Or any other combination. Seems two different punishments happen at same time.

I've been getting the same problem as well was going to re-install/restart because i can not find what is causing it all the my setting etc point as my character being female.

[Nohrin]

6 hours ago, chubjub said:

I've been getting the same problem as well was going to re-install/restart because i can not find what is causing it all the my setting etc point as my character being female.

If reinstalling fixes it, let me know. I'm not a fan of removing mods mid-playthrough (even if I reinstall them back right away) and every time I do, it ruins my playthrough.

[Oddside]

I've ran into a couple problems that I've only ever had happen in the most recent update.

1. Every time I'm become enslaved my character puts a strap-on on and ends up being the aggressor during scenes.

2. Even though my character will always kneel down with me hands behind her back, only about 50% of the time will shackles and leg cuffs be placed on. The collar however, will always be place on.

 

Anyone have any advice on how to fix these? Started a new save and still had the problem.  

     

 

[Fuzzy_Fox]

6 hours ago, Oddside said:

I've ran into a couple problems that I've only ever had happen in the most recent update.

1. Every time I'm become enslaved my character puts a strap-on on and ends up being the aggressor during scenes.

2. Even though my character will always kneel down with me hands behind her back, only about 50% of the time will shackles and leg cuffs be placed on. The collar however, will always be place on.

 

Anyone have any advice on how to fix these? Started a new save and still had the problem.  

     

 

I think this is a known bug if you look back on the thread. I also have this problem as well and saw the author respond to someone about it. So I left it there as it has already been spotted. 

[SRR_2020]

I'm having a bit of an issue, it seems the textures are not showing up. Whenever I get "punished" for being a bad slave instead of seeing the marks on my body I get purple splashes and the Sanguine statue in the meadery and the bridges and other things in Dreamworld appear in a purple like way, like the textures are missing. Also Sanguine and ALicia have the black face bug as well. Is there a fix for this? (I know how to fix the face bug, but no idea about the others). 

 

I tried checking the file but the textures seem to be there, they just don't appear in game

[Guest]

Hi there,

 

When I'm using SD my papyrus gets spammed with SD waiting messages, like 2 every second, which inevitably leads to a CTD, which always has those lines.

 

Would love to use this mod again, what could be causing this? Is it a mod incompatibility or something?

Any help would be appreciated

 

(Without SD game is stable as a mountain)

[JahReit]

Same thing for me: "[_sdras_slave] Player is Waiting" spams log till CTD.  My character isn't enslaved, no followers enslaved.  I've been a Sanguine Debauchery user since the original author started it and would hate to take it out of my load order.  If anyone has or knows of a fix, please post it here.

[DeepBlueFrog]

8 hours ago, jujoco said:

Hi there,

 

When I'm using SD my papyrus gets spammed with SD waiting messages, like 2 every second, which inevitably leads to a CTD, which always has those lines.

 

Would love to use this mod again, what could be causing this? Is it a mod incompatibility or something?

Any help would be appreciated

 

(Without SD game is stable as a mountain)

 

29 minutes ago, JahReit said:

Same thing for me: "[_sdras_slave] Player is Waiting" spams log till CTD.  My character isn't enslaved, no followers enslaved.  I've been a Sanguine Debauchery user since the original author started it and would hate to take it out of my load order.  If anyone has or knows of a fix, please post it here.

I put this message in to detect if and when the player is in an 'empty' state. 

That means somehow, the player was pushed out of the slavery state and stuck in an empty loop. When that happens, slavery actions are not detected anymore.

 

That should not happen, so it is concerning to me it is still happening.

 

Can you share any details about what you were doing in your gave when you noticed it was happening?

 

One thing you can try is to use the safe word option to cancel enslavement and try getting enslaved again. I will look into the code again for clues.

 

This is exactly the kind of random bugs that literally suck the life out of modding for me. I would rather be working on finishing the stories instead of chasing ghosts like these.

[JahReit]

36 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

I put this message in to detect if and when the player is in an 'empty' state. 

That means somehow, the player was pushed out of the slavery state and stuck in an empty loop. When that happens, slavery actions are not detected anymore.

 

That should not happen, so it is concerning to me it is still happening.

 

Can you share any details about what you were doing in your gave when you noticed it was happening?

 

One thing you can try is to use the safe word option to cancel enslavement and try getting enslaved again. I will look into the code again for clues.

 

This is exactly the kind of random bugs that literally suck the life out of modding for me. I would rather be working on finishing the stories instead of chasing ghosts like these.

It happens often, and I can't really say when/why except maybe other scripts fire at an inopportune time.  I'll enclose log.  Who knows, it might help ;~)

Papyrus.0.7z

[Guest]

8 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

I put this message in to detect if and when the player is in an 'empty' state. 

That means somehow, the player was pushed out of the slavery state and stuck in an empty loop. When that happens, slavery actions are not detected anymore.

 

That should not happen, so it is concerning to me it is still happening.

 

Can you share any details about what you were doing in your gave when you noticed it was happening?

 

One thing you can try is to use the safe word option to cancel enslavement and try getting enslaved again. I will look into the code again for clues.

 

This is exactly the kind of random bugs that literally suck the life out of modding for me. I would rather be working on finishing the stories instead of chasing ghosts like these.

Ha ha I understand

Debugging is an annoying task

I wasn't really doing anything special, first time after I installed it it happened when walking back from the alternate starts: grab book in helgen, give potion to imperial guy, then went back to Riverwood and... CTD, with that msg spam in log.

second was after going to the prison in whiterun for the alkahir (or something) prisoner for Saadia, went out the prison walked down steps of dragonreach: CTD, same msg spam again.

 

so I tested it again, this time just loading a save game and not doing anything. Papyrus spam again (maybe it's caused by another mod?), I thought it was because I wasn't doing anything , I exited that game myself just to see if it was happening again.

 

I'll try the safe word tonight after work to see if that fixes things, I think I also have a papyrus log lying about with it, might be a long one, but I'll upload that to, maybe it helps finding the issue. Good to know it shouldn't do that though though!

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

6 hours ago, jujoco said:

Ha ha I understand

Debugging is an annoying task

 

I wasn't really doing anything special, first time after I installed it it happened when walking back from the alternate starts: grab book in helgen, give potion to imperial guy, then went back to Riverwood and... CTD, with that msg spam in log.

second was after going to the prison in whiterun for the alkahir (or something) prisoner for Saadia, went out the prison walked down steps of dragonreach: CTD, same msg spam again.

 

so I tested it again, this time just loading a save game and not doing anything. Papyrus spam again (maybe it's caused by another mod?), I thought it was because I wasn't doing anything , I exited that game myself just to see if it was happening again.

 

I'll try the safe word tonight after work to see if that fixes things, I think I also have a papyrus log lying about with it, might be a long one, but I'll upload that to, maybe it helps finding the issue. Good to know it shouldn't do that though though!

 

 

Are you saying it happens even if you have not been enslaved once?

[Asertyp]

4 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

it happens even if you have not been enslaved once?

I also had.

("[_sdras_slave] Player is Waiting"  - 2 msg in second)

Spamming after clean install of mod and before 1st enslaving.

Stop spamming after enslaved. 
Do not spamming after released.

[Xiaron]

Have encountered a previously known issue that I believe you thought you fixed. Running the newest release of SD+, the 'chaurus neck brace' that comes from being enslaved by the falmer won't come off my PC. No key works, and the blacksmith says they will take it off and charges me, but doesn't actually remove the collar.