Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

Dinkel · September 13, 2018

On 9/9/2018 at 7:43 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

Do you have a mod that adds melee combat or anything treated as permanent equipped spells?

These are unfortunately treated as attacks on the master and end up in endless loops.

Anyone have any idea what popular mods might cause this ? or give me an example of the kind of mod that might ?

Still trying to narrow down what mod might be causing my issue.

P.S issue is master punishment spam possibly due to active spells/melee

p.p.s it doesnt happen on creature masters

DonQuiWho · September 14, 2018

Hi

Using 3.6.2 beta3 mods

When using the Buxom Wench Yuriana mod...

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77903?

.... I am getting a lot of SD messages in my Papyrus log - see extract of SD messages below - and after this any combat using Defeat will crash to CTD as will any attempt to save the game at that point

I have SD running

I also have the Updated Defeat in use, being used without Death Alternative - in my set up, SD should only be an outcome from Simple Slavery

But I'm therefore not quite sure why I'm getting SD checks appearing at this point

Is it that they are always running but only appear in Papyrus log if they generate 'failure/false' type outcomes? (This is probably the main part of the query ?)

I can understand why they probably would fail as that mod apparently introduces a strange, non run of the mill, bandit faction - lot of discussion about that in the SBC thread, and the particular location where it all goes squiff, ie Broken Oar Grotto, where boith SBC and Yuriana have rescue type quests

But at this point, no matter what else I do, any attempt to save the game, or to engage in any combat with the mods NPCs using Defeat, I get an almost instant CTD

Others have managed to get to the end of the Yuriana and SBC quests located there eventually. Does the log give you any thoughts as to why that might happen and if it really could be SD related?

Spoiler

[09/14/2018 - 01:19:11PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Blackblood Marauder" [Actor < (000BAB9D)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Nord" [Race <NordRace (00013746)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:19:11PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D550)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["IMPERIAL" [Race <ImperialRace (00013744)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:19:11PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D550)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["IMPERIAL" [Race <ImperialRace (00013744)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:19:11PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D54F)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Redguard" [Race <RedguardRace (00013748)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:19:11PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D54F)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Redguard" [Race <RedguardRace (00013748)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:20:22PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Blackblood Marauder" [Actor < (000BAB9D)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Nord" [Race <NordRace (00013746)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:20:22PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D550)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["IMPERIAL" [Race <ImperialRace (00013744)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:20:22PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D550)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["IMPERIAL" [Race <ImperialRace (00013744)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:20:22PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D54F)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Redguard" [Race <RedguardRace (00013748)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:20:22PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Subjugated Bandit Wench" [Actor < (9D28D54F)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Redguard" [Race <RedguardRace (00013748)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (9D000D62)>]]
   [Active effect 2 on (9D28D550)].DSerNPCMonitor.OnHit() - "DSerNPCMonitor.psc" Line 86
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:03PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:03PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D54F)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:03PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:03PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:04PM] [SD] Creature Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D54F)>] ] - FAILED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:06PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:06PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:07PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:07PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:08PM] [SD] Creature Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D54F)>] ] - FAILED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:09PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:09PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:10PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:10PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:10PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:10PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:11PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:11PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:12PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:12PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:12PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:12PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:13PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:13PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:13PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:13PM] [SD] Creature Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - FAILED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:13PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:14PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:14PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:14PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:14PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:14PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:15PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D54F)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:15PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:15PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:16PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:16PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:16PM] [SD] Creature Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - FAILED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:17PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:17PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:17PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:17PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:17PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:17PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:18PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:18PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:18PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:18PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:18PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:18PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:19PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:19PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:19PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Subjugated Bandit Wench] SetActor([Actor < (9D28D550)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (10061EEF)>]
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Subjugated Bandit Wench] - Equipment: [[Form < (9D1D1B19)>], [Form < (9D00D02F)>], [Form < (9D48373C)>], [WEAPON < (00013984)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Subjugated Bandit Wench] - Equipment: [[Form < (9D1D1B19)>], [Form < (9D00D02F)>], [Form < (9D48373C)>], [WEAPON < (00013984)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Subjugated Bandit Wench] - Equipment: [[Form < (9D1D1B19)>], [Form < (9D00D02F)>], [Form < (9D48373C)>], [WEAPON < (00013984)>]]
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D54F)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM] SEXLAB - Checking([SPELL < (0009379D)>]): Muffled Movement
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:20PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:21PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:21PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:21PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:21PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:21PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (9D28D550)>] ] - SUCCEEDED
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:22PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:22PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:22PM]            _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:22PM]            _SD::actorInBannedFactions akActor:[Actor < (9D28D550)>] found:False
[09/14/2018 - 01:26:23PM] GagSFX: - Subjugated Bandit Wench [Actor < (9D28D550)>] Sex is 0

September 14, 2018

Hello,

Installed 3.6.2 beta4 and when I go to Sanguine's grove for the first time Sanguine turns hostile the moment you see him. He just stands there without attacking but I can't start a dialogue. This didn't happen with 3.6.1, however I had a bunch of other issues with 3.6.1(like failing to equip armbinders, slavery ending on midnight of first day with most NPCs etc.) so I installed the beta. None of the other mods have changed

Fuzzy_Fox · September 15, 2018

8 hours ago, pearisdriving said:

Hello,

Installed 3.6.2 beta4 and when I go to Sanguine's grove for the first time Sanguine turns hostile the moment you see him. He just stands there without attacking but I can't start a dialogue. This didn't happen with 3.6.1, however I had a bunch of other issues with 3.6.1(like failing to equip armbinders, slavery ending on midnight of first day with most NPCs etc.) so I installed the beta. None of the other mods have changed

DeepBlueFrog gave me a solution to this and I changed the settings in TESEdit for Sanguine male and female.

Here is a screen shot of the fix I put in to get Sanguine to work in beta 4. image.png.773679ba7652ef870d89b0edada7ed53.png

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 15, 2018

SD+ beta 5 is up in my beta testing thread, with small fixes to hopefully improve the popup message on game load and the aggressiveness of Sanguine.

I said 'hopefully' since these are issues I do not have on my test games, and I could not test properly.

Nocturnel_reaper · September 16, 2018

On 8/9/2018 at 9:22 PM, SqueezyLemon said:

No note on or around the desk, as far as I can find. Would there possibly be a way to either spawn the note in or to proceed the quest through the console?

EDIT: SOLVED! Figured out that I could go into the ESP and spawned in the correct note. The problem was that I had already been to the location and grabbed it prior to starting the quest, I guess.

Second Edit:

Stuck on the next part. I've been using the honningbrew basement to get in and out for a little while, so I have no idea how to make the quest progress for "Find the location of Sanguine's shrine"

Did you already get the "find the location" part of the quest complete I'm stuck on it

EDIT: fixed it with console commands

currently stuck at the portal doesn't seem to open to sanguines haven

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 17, 2018

2 hours ago, Nocturnel_reaper said:

Did you already get the "find the location" part of the quest complete I'm stuck on it

EDIT: fixed it with console commands

currently stuck at the portal doesn't seem to open to sanguines haven

What portal?

The Sanguine Shrine has an alter and a few beds where you are supposed to sleep in order to get to Sanguine's realm.

if you see a portal, it's another location (Morvunskar by any chance?).

Warlock3000 · September 18, 2018

I didn't quite get if "Beast enslavement" option in the menu relates to all supported creature types or only some of them.

Specifically, does this option need to be enabled in order for the Falmer to be able to enslave you?

Krynn · September 18, 2018

Do not I need a night after remember or anything else?
I had not played the mod for a long time, can not find anything in the mcm menu, partly it is in English, partly in German.

***Psalam*** · September 18, 2018

Spoiler

23 minutes ago, Krynn said:

Do not I need a night after remember or anything else?
I had not played the mod for a long time, can not find anything in the mcm menu, partly it is in English, partly in German.

A Night to Remember is the Daedric Quest for Sanguine as part of Vanilla Skyrim. Doing it is not needed to play this mod.

Krynn · September 18, 2018

So I will not click on your link here ?!
why too?
it was a simple question.
weird thing.

this mod is still right back and front not.
I get partially no chains created.
When flogged, the character moves through the entire room to a corner.
There are no devices that I asked before I think one year ago.
oke, I know, I do not have to play it.
I do not do any more.

there SD + 2044 was even better around the world, unfortunately with some error messages, as already described in the forum.
pity that this will not continue!

my english is not the best and i had not played this mod for a long time.
so friendly @Psalam
it was just a simple question!

Nevertheless, I see no sense in this mod. I'm in this dream world for a short time, or not and then I have no idea... all over again...
sanguine then sends me away, then I'm back there, can hear everything again, sends me away again...
never ending Story
it will not continue with me.

***Psalam*** · September 18, 2018

Spoiler

50 minutes ago, Krynn said:

So I will not click on your link here ?!
why too?
it was a simple question.
weird thing.

this mod is still right back and front not.
I get partially no chains created.
When flogged, the character moves through the entire room to a corner.
There are no devices that I asked before I think one year ago.
oke, I know, I do not have to play it.
I do not do any more.

there SD + 2044 was even better around the world, unfortunately with some error messages, as already described in the forum.
pity that this will not continue!

my english is not the best and i had not played this mod for a long time.
so friendly @Psalam
it was just a simple question!

Nevertheless, I see no sense in this mod. I'm in this dream world for a short time, or not and then I have no idea... all over again...
sanguine then sends me away, then I'm back there, can hear everything again, sends me away again...
never ending Story
it will not continue with me.

Of course you can do, or not do, whatever you like. I use SD+ as a way to get my PC enslaved. I can do it directly through this mod or through a number of others that then send me to SD+. DeepBlueFrog is still working out the kinks of Dreamworld and you can try the beta5 version if you like (the link is on his signature on any of his posts).

I'm sorry if my reply came across as abrupt or rude. I tend to be terse.

Krynn · September 18, 2018

Congratulations Psalam, you have been for over 2 years now after some very friendly and nice people who have also helped the first ever on my ignore list...

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 18, 2018

A night to remember is no longer required to start the main quest in Sanguine world.

All the interactions about the quest are done through the journal and dialogues with Sanguine, the Alicias and Crassius Curio.

I strongly encourage you to use the latest beta version of you want to give this mod another try,

Version 2+ had way too many other issues that I have since addressed (most of all, the poor AI leash that got you stuck against a rock 90% of the time).

Version 3+ still has issues of course. I would welcome bug fixes if you are bored with the game and want to try something more constructive.

DonQuiWho · September 18, 2018

@DeepBlueFrog

I'm using SDPlus 362 beta3

I have a problem that has been referred to above by others and on which I should like some advice, please

I first landed up in Sanguine's domain after sleeping in the Riverwood Sleeping Giant Inn, and couldn't get out again. The Quest 'The Truth' was for some reason active at the time. Read up on the thread and saw others saying 'you need to be enslaved before Dreamworld visit first, etc - which hadn't happened - and you saying that you first needed to sleep in front of Sanguine's statue - a place I had already visited on the main Meadery poisoning quest, but not slept at the shrine - so went back to an earlier save and carried on from their as it seemed to have borked

I have now gone back to the Meadery, slept at the Sanguine Shrine, been shuftied off to Dreamworld, and once again can't seem to get out

I got the text (paraphrased heavily) re would you like some mead?, offered it and gave it to him, got the 'i want to get out ?' dialogue, but never get released. Hung around for there for about an hour realtime. I've seen some txt about having fun, some telling me Sanguine's wisdom about what the Dragonborn has done, something about been had by all 4 (?), - with the poor Dragonborn having by this time been shafted silly, and on one occasion asked to 'Submit or Resist once, Resist chosen - but every time I select the 'I wanna go home' txt, I get the 'you've only just arrived, stay and have some fun' stuff .

I haven't yet tried to flush it all away by pulling the chain ?

I saw you ask others, also querying this, about the stage values so here are those in my game for stage completion for _sd_dream (in console also called 'The Truth')

They were as follows, Left to right:

Stage No; Value in Dreamworld when logged off; Value in save before slept at shrine

0 1 1

10 1 0

15 0 0

20 0 0

100 0 0

200 1 0

202 1 0

210 0 0

220 0 0

222 0 0

224 1 1

226 1 1

230 0 0

232 1 0

234 1 0

236 0 0

all rest 0 0

Does any of that help at all?

(I'll keep these saves, but meantime continue my main game from before I went into the Meadery)

FWIW, I also asked a question about SD papyrus log messages upstream, (here, or in beta thread) but haven't seen any reply to that. Any chance on a help with that too, please, even if it's only just 'I haven't really got a clue' or tl;didn't read ? . No-one is expecting you to know everything all of the time

TIA if you can give me any help with this

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 19, 2018

Thanks for the details.

I am traveling this week but I will take a look when I can.

In the meantime, try upgrading to the beta 5 version so I don’t chase issues that I may have fixed a while back already.

chubjub · September 19, 2018

6 hours ago, donkeywho said:

@DeepBlueFrog

I'm using SDPlus 362 beta3

I have a problem that has been referred to above by others and on which I should like some advice, please

I first landed up in Sanguine's domain after sleeping in the Riverwood Sleeping Giant Inn, and couldn't get out again. The Quest 'The Truth' was for some reason active at the time. Read up on the thread and saw others saying 'you need to be enslaved before Dreamworld visit first, etc - which hadn't happened - and you saying that you first needed to sleep in front of Sanguine's statue - a place I had already visited on the main Meadery poisoning quest, but not slept at the shrine - so went back to an earlier save and carried on from their as it seemed to have borked

I have now gone back to the Meadery, slept at the Sanguine Shrine, been shuftied off to Dreamworld, and once again can't seem to get out

I got the text (paraphrased heavily) re would you like some mead?, offered it and gave it to him, got the 'i want to get out ?' dialogue, but never get released. Hung around for there for about an hour realtime. I've seen some txt about having fun, some telling me Sanguine's wisdom about what the Dragonborn has done, something about been had by all 4 (?), - with the poor Dragonborn having by this time been shafted silly, and on one occasion asked to 'Submit or Resist once, Resist chosen - but every time I select the 'I wanna go home' txt, I get the 'you've only just arrived, stay and have some fun' stuff .

I haven't yet tried to flush it all away by pulling the chain ?

I saw you ask others, also querying this, about the stage values so here are those in my game for stage completion for _sd_dream (in console also called 'The Truth')

They were as follows, Left to right:

Stage No; Value in Dreamworld when logged off; Value in save before slept at shrine

0          1 1

10        1   0

15        0   0

20        0   0

100      0   0

200      1   0

202      1   0

210      0   0

220      0   0

222      0   0

224      1   1

226      1   1

230      0   0

232      1   0

234      1   0

236      0   0

all rest 0   0

Does any of that help at all?

(I'll keep these saves, but meantime continue my main game from before I went into the Meadery)

FWIW, I also asked a question about SD papyrus log messages upstream, (here, or in beta thread) but haven't seen any reply to that. Any chance on a help with that too, please, even if it's only just 'I haven't really got a clue' or tl;didn't read ? .    No-one is expecting you to know everything all of the time

TIA if you can give me any help with this

I had that issue with with only getting 'you've only just arrived, stay and have some fun' but then i notice another option that said 'Why am I here again' after that sanguine let me go as normal haven't got to the meadary yet though.

Fuzzy_Fox · September 19, 2018

Playing beta 5 at the moment and it is looking rather stable. I can still trigger certain parts of the Truth quest before sleeping in front of Sanguine's shrine though. Is this a feature or a bug?

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 19, 2018

1 hour ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

Playing beta 5 at the moment and it is looking rather stable. I can still trigger certain parts of the Truth quest before sleeping in front of Sanguine's shrine though. Is this a feature or a bug?

Yes. That is normal.

As long as you can’t go to Moonshadow prematurely, it should be fine.

Jappa123 · September 19, 2018

@DeepBlueFrog

I posted my thoughts about beta 5 in beta thread any "statement" from you regarding cage scenes?

-Big cage with gate door - scenes works fine but days are not updating

-Normal cages and cells - scenes not working but days updating

And you did not answer anything so i guess i didnt have time to check it out yet?

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 19, 2018

36 minutes ago, Jappa123 said:

@DeepBlueFrog

I posted my thoughts about beta 5 in beta thread any "statement" from you regarding cage scenes?

-Big cage with gate door - scenes works fine but days are not updating

-Normal cages and cells - scenes not working but days updating

And you did not answer anything so i guess i didnt have time to check it out yet?

That’s right. I am traveling this week but I will check that issue soon.

Scrnes not working for normal cages and cells is normal. I have no way of detecting if the player is inside or outside for generic cells.

For larger cages with door, what do you mean by ‘days not ipdating’?

Are you saying there is no visible change after midnight? What about around 1am?

Jappa123 · September 19, 2018

20 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

That’s right. I am traveling this week but I will check that issue soon.

Scrnes not working for normal cages and cells is normal. I have no way of detecting if the player is inside or outside for generic cells.

For larger cages with door, what do you mean by ‘days not ipdating’?

Are you saying there is no visible change after midnight? What about around 1am?

There is no notification window that should pop up after each day so i guess enslavment stuck on first day for ever.

Same when i try "Why me?" dialogue - 0 days

*DeepBlueFrog* · September 20, 2018

12 hours ago, Jappa123 said:

There is no notification window that should pop up after each day so i guess enslavment stuck on first day for ever.

Same when i try "Why me?" dialogue - 0 days

An error log with the transition through midnight would help in that case.

Nothereatall1 · September 20, 2018

I'm having a problem where my owner disappears if I leave the cell too far away - the quest marker floats in the air. First time I was leaving Dragonsreach castle, and the quest marker appeared in a prison cell in the dungeons. The second time I was entering the Bannered Mare, and the quest mark pointed to where the owner was last headed, the wood chopping block behind Belethor's shop.

Teddar · September 20, 2018

On 9/19/2018 at 12:32 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

That’s right. I am traveling this week but I will check that issue soon.

Scrnes not working for normal cages and cells is normal. I have no way of detecting if the player is inside or outside for generic cells.

For larger cages with door, what do you mean by ‘days not ipdating’?

Are you saying there is no visible change after midnight? What about around 1am?

Did i understand that correctly? Scenes with the smaller cages placed in the vanilla game (i.e. not by the SD cages Mod) wont ever work? I ask because they certainly used to in the original SD mod and in SD+2044 if memory serves. Indeed i remember one of my favorite parts of the original SD mod was when the master/mistress locked you in a cage all night then got you out and beat the crap out of you in the morning. I miss that /sniff ?

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