Morferous Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Hey there SkyrimLL. It seems that when the player get enslaved through your mod, several StorageUtil variables get wiped. For example, prison overhaul patch by Inte get its version removed and trigger a reset and update or the different sexlab voices assigned to actors gets reinitialized to default. These events occurs only after the enslavement, and (obviously) on reload. I know you're taking a break, but do you have any idea as to why such a thing would occur? I don't know if SD+ is the culprit though, the mod may very well be another victim. So, that is what is causing it? I need edit my response to Inte then. I was not certain which way around that went. There is also an other issue, where I am not certain which mod is a culprit. I played Devious Framework with SD+. Every time I was napped by slavers, screen did constant "Go away... I already have enough slaves" spam. All the time. I think that line is coming from SD+. I am just not sure if I should ask about Skyrimll or legume about this. I might as well ask about this right now, while I am responding to this and ask legume about the same thing.
GeorgiaCav Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Hi SkyrimII, Just checking: have I missed something or is there no way to easily trigger punishment scenes through dialogue (whipping, furniture bondage etc) once the player hits slavery level 6? If players do indeed lose that option at Slavery 6, it seems a bit of a pity - I do like seeing those poses once in a while. Would you consider such a dialogue addition? (We already have the option to start sex through dialogue) As always, thank you for your continued work on this mod and others. (Edit: Similarly, if playing with Hormone's bimbo curse, it'd be nice to be able to initiate punishment scenes once in a while) (Edit 2: Should this be in the Dialogues thread instead...?) I second, third, and fourth the idea of a dialogue to start punishment. It seems every time I do something that should trigger a punishment, and get the "You wince at the sight of the whip" message, there's just a sex scene and no punishment, or I get the tail end of a punishment after the sex scene ("You are left to ponder your fate" and the whip scars). However, I think skyrimll has indicated in the past he's had some trouble getting the punishment scenes to work right. Idk if such an option is in the cards or not but if it were, it might be the thing that finally allows me to leave ME out of my LO, or at least have two separate MO profiles, an SD+ and an ME one.
bicobus Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Hey there SkyrimLL. It seems that when the player get enslaved through your mod, several StorageUtil variables get wiped. For example, prison overhaul patch by Inte get its version removed and trigger a reset and update or the different sexlab voices assigned to actors gets reinitialized to default. These events occurs only after the enslavement, and (obviously) on reload. I know you're taking a break, but do you have any idea as to why such a thing would occur? I don't know if SD+ is the culprit though, the mod may very well be another victim. So, that is what is causing it? I need edit my response to Inte then. I was not certain which way around that went. There is also an other issue, where I am not certain which mod is a culprit. I played Devious Framework with SD+. Every time I was napped by slavers, screen did constant "Go away... I already have enough slaves" spam. All the time. I think that line is coming from SD+. I am just not sure if I should ask about Skyrimll or legume about this. I might as well ask about this right now, while I am responding to this and ask legume about the same thing. I don't know if you'd get the same results by simply equipping the collar, but I doubt it. As for the "go away", that is from devious framework, not SD+.
Morferous Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I don't know if you'd get the same results by simply equipping the collar, but I doubt it. As for the "go away", that is from devious framework, not SD+. It seems to cause the spam, but I thought that line itself was from SD+. I might remember wrong, so it might be best to ask directly from DF thread. Edit: Ah, it looks like legume is already aware of this. I somehow missed that, while I was searching for the phrase from that thread. Only hits I got were from SD+, but this actually has already been discussed in DF thread.
bicobus Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 SD+ only ever manage the player character as a slave, it can't have more than one.
Morferous Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 SD+ only ever manage the player character as a slave, it can't have more than one. I am aware of that. I was talking about the source of the message itself. It was unclear to me, if SD+ is the original source of that message. What prompts it to cause spam is another question, which I already bumped in Devious Framework thread. I do hope that some sort of solution can be found. I had RL headache from the constant spam and was unable to keep playing the game. But, if issue is indeed coming from DF, then let's hope that legume figures out how to remove it, or at least how to hide the notification spam.
bicobus Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Incidentally, I just got that message too... While being punished by the brutish orc introduced by CCAS. My bad! But you didn't properly pasted the string, it is "Go away.. I already have enough slaves." with only two dots. What I believe is happening is SD+ trying to enslave the PC yet again. But can't do it. Excerpt from my log: [02/12/2017 - 07:03:46PM] [SD] Creature Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (930C11E3)>] ] - FAILED [02/12/2017 - 07:03:47PM] _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (930C11E3)>] found:False [02/12/2017 - 07:03:47PM] [SD] Actor is already an owner [02/12/2017 - 07:03:48PM] _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (930C11E3)>] found:False [02/12/2017 - 07:03:49PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (930C11E3)>] ] - FAILED [02/12/2017 - 07:03:49PM] _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (930C11E3)>] found:False [02/12/2017 - 07:03:50PM] [SD] Humanoid Enslavement check with actor [ [Actor < (930C11E3)>] ] - FAILED [02/12/2017 - 07:03:51PM] _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (930C11E3)>] found:False [02/12/2017 - 07:03:51PM] [SD] Actor is already an owner [02/12/2017 - 07:03:51PM] [SD] Actor is already a slaver in another ZAP compatible mod - aborting [02/12/2017 - 07:03:51PM] [SD] Player is already owned by a ZAP compatible mod - aborting
Morferous Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I was away over weekend and didn't remember how many dots there were. I did take a screenshot, but forgot to look at it. Did I understood this correctly: SD+ is going circles between Devious Framework and itself, which causes the issue? I did find past discussion about this in DF thread. Congratulation of your 1000th post.
bicobus Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I don't have devious framework, it's just something in SD+ that checks if an actor is a possible slaver. Shouldn't happen if your character is already enslaved, but somehow it does.In my case, there may have 2 enslavements triggered or some shenanigans going on with the CCAS start and lags. The check seems to happens when you surrender, you get enslaved or the owner changes hand. Or when you get hit (part of State monitor). We'll need skyrimLL to clarify what is going on - - - Also, skyrimLL, somehow the StorageUtil entry for the player gets renamed to "Slave" upon enslavement. I'm not sure which mod does that, but it make it impossible for the other mods to retrieve the previously stored values. At least, this is what I assume based on the data I could see. Another thing I observed is that SD+ initialize with a outdated version number (20150125 I believe), then update itself with the next game load. Is it an intended behavior?
Zor2k13 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 So thats where the message comes from? If I start the leash game with DFW mod lets say with lydia while in breezehome this message shows over and over again then stops. The leash game works fine and goes through the motions but I was wondering where this message was coming from and thought it was only from DFW mod not SD.
Morferous Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 So thats where the message comes from? If I start the leash game with DFW mod lets say with lydia while in breezehome this message shows over and over again then stops. The leash game works fine and goes through the motions but I was wondering where this message was coming from and thought it was only from DFW mod not SD. It looks like DFW as well might have something to do with this. I just read legumes reply in DFW thread, after I asked about this.
bicobus Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I don't have Devious Framework installed. What happens are actors managed by SD+ (any actor you cross that is a valid slaver) trying to enslave you when you already are enslaved or they already are slavers. We would need skyrimll to explain it properly though.
Morferous Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 It is possible that both mods just have the same issue and finding the solution fixes it for both.
slonez1 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 A really cool idea for a future edition of this mod would be to be able to adjust the fee the Blacksmith charges when removing the devices.
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 14, 2017 Author Posted February 14, 2017 The 'Go away' message comes from my attempt at taking into account ZAP slavery factions to improve compatibility with mods using it like Maria Eden. Sorry for being away longer than expected - I should be back in a week or so.
uhuhuhuh Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Hi, I'm having trouble getting...well, anyone to enslave the PC. Basically, everything that should get me enslaved goes along fine, but when all is said and done the enslavement doesn't actually start. It just acts like everything's the same as before. Papyrus.0.log This log is from a Deviously Enslaved attempt, but the same problem occurs with Simple Slavery. Thanks for any help. Can I bump this issue? Still can't figure out how to fix it. I am also having this problem, only since the update in December though. EDIT: Solution found, I was using the older edition of DD still, after updating that it all works fine.
DeepBlueFrog Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Is there a way to make Reiklings slavers? Try using the addon from Content Consumer in the SD download page. i need sd 2013 , cant find I tried asking for an earlier version of this mod so good luck lol. Even if you could find it, I doubt that version would still work as it predates Sexlab and had requirements that also don't exist anymore.
Monkito Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Hm, installed this mod now, with simple slavery but all i can do is beeing in the auction hall, get soled, maybe one or two scenes. thats all. The owner also never leaves this place. After a while i stealed enough or stealed the key to be free. The question now, is that everything that should happen ? Btw, where is my stuff after im free again ? Thanks.
Morferous Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Hm, installed this mod now, with simple slavery but all i can do is beeing in the auction hall, get soled, maybe one or two scenes. thats all. The owner also never leaves this place. After a while i stealed enough or stealed the key to be free. The question now, is that everything that should happen ? Btw, where is my stuff after im free again ? Thanks. Owner does leave, but there is a 24 hour timer, before travel pack hits in.
Monkito Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Ah , so i have to wait till it moves further ? Thanks for info.
jayjayj Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 So not sure if bug or oversight to be fixed later but when Sanguine gives my gear back after choosing to be free there is no take all button. I'm a bit of a hoarder lol so hitting E on each and every item is...tedious. Otherwise love the mod so far. Besides the bug and quirks already mentioned by others have had no real major or breaking issues so far.
clown369 Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 is queen of Chaurus quest added in recent version of SD ?
bicobus Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Not as far as I am aware of. I never heard of any such quest though.
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