Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[donttouchmethere]

sweet!

my experience was with SD+ 3.5.5 and below

 

time to get enslaved i guess =D

 

awesome, yehaaaaaa

 

(i learned, always tell the mod version before writing a lot ^^)

[DeepBlueFrog]

It's really great how you've kept  going with the hardwork, thank you so much for all the tweaks and improvements!

 

Just one question though, do you plan on putting gags back on followers soon?

 

I'm also curious if you'd ever work with Devious Equip in any future makes? Lots of good gear there .

 

I need to do more tests with followers to see if their behavior is/was linked to equipped devices or not.

 

I don't use Devious Equip and my load order is maxed out, so there is little chance I will add support anytime soon.

 

Would anyone mind goin over the features of ''allowance''? just wanna make sure im not missing anything. Also posting this before the latest update so i havnt tested the spriggan mask but thank you for making it invisable

 

The allowance system has evolved over time, so there is still a chance of things not quite working as intended, but it should be working like this:

 

- the allowance number is the number of hours you can go about without being punished from changing cells (going outside or inside without your master nearby)

- if your allowance is positive, you can change cells without being punished

- if your allowance is negative, you need to do things for your master to increase the amount back to a positive balance

- every hour you spend without doing anything for your master costs you one allowance point

- you can earn points by giving your owner items you found and by reaching a daily goal of needs for your master (food, gold, sex and punishments). Daily goals are unique to each master and only disclosed through comments from your master, so you will have to guess if they prefer gold, sex or punishments.

- you can also earn points by having sex with him (submit option), but only while your balance is negative. 

 

I am working on a daily task system to earn more points if you complete a task given from your master each day but it will take a few more weeks to get that system to work (I have been delayed by the random issues I have just fixed).

[donttouchmethere]

how do i trigger punishments without loosing allowance thru doing something that triggers punishment?

 

do i ask for punishment or do i use the indirect approach via dialog like "calling master names"?

[DeepBlueFrog]

how do i trigger punishments without loosing allowance thru doing something that triggers punishment?

 

do i ask for punishment or do i use the indirect approach via dialog like "calling master names"?

 

There isn't a good way right now to ask to be punished without losing allowance... punishments are by definition, punishments

 

Right now, you are pretty much stuck with calling master names.

 

I will have to add that in a future release.

[donttouchmethere]

 

how do i trigger punishments without loosing allowance thru doing something that triggers punishment?

 

do i ask for punishment or do i use the indirect approach via dialog like "calling master names"?

 

There isn't a good way right now to ask to be punished without losing allowance... punishments are by definition, punishments

 

Right now, you are pretty much stuck with calling master names.

 

I will have to add that in a future release.

 

 

thx for the quick answer!

that bothered me a lot on my 5 day slavery test trail with a hyrdagon slaver, well it makes the whole punish part more subtile

 

i like the new allowance system a lot more, i can see better than i have enough freedom to try a escape or to get some food/gold or set up a traps

 

and without that pop issue there is no point in trying to resist a little enslavement anymore \o/

 

new load order set, ACTION!

[Kujo187]

Hi, where can I find the textures for the CT77 SD+ slave outfit? Mine doesn't seem to have textures. Thanks

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi, where can I find the textures for the CT77 SD+ slave outfit? Mine doesn't seem to have textures. Thanks

I thought they used the default textures. I will have to check that tonight.

 

Did you try the download link I added to the mod description under Slave rags?

[DeepBlueFrog]

One important update I forgot up mention.

 

Part of the fix to making the Spriggan mask visible again was to turn it into a gag- including the effect on blocked speech.

 

That effect will remain when I recreate the spriggan quest in Parasites.

 

It makes a lot of sense to me that something that makes you part of nature (and part plant) would prevent you from speaking eventually.

[Kujo187]

 

Hi, where can I find the textures for the CT77 SD+ slave outfit? Mine doesn't seem to have textures. Thanks

I thought they used the default textures. I will have to check that tonight.

 

Did you try the download link I added to the mod description under Slave rags?

 

 

I haven't actually put it on ingame yet. It had no textures in bodyslide which generally but not always means they won't be ingame. I went ingame to test but I couldn't find the slave outfit in the console. 

 

What's the ingame name for the slave outfit so I can test it with the console?

 

Thanks for anyhelp!

[DeepBlueFrog]

I will check tonight but you can try looking for 'SlaveRags'

[Morferous]

Thank you for the update, skyrimll.

[Krynn]

Hmmm no answer is probably also one.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hmmm no answer is probably also one.

No answer was only because I didn't have a lot of time to answer before going to work. I will answer later.

[bicobus]

I have a few questions please:

 

This addon, with which one can adjust which devices to be created does not work, no matter what I adjust since, I am always only this standard Zaz gag created.

If I understand what you are referring to correctly, the addon is from Content Consumer, I have no idea what the sliders are for.

Do you actually get any other devices than the gag and a blindfold after a failed escape? So belts, boots or anything else?

I believe I saw references to other devices in the code, but they are only used as punishment or equipped through another mod like CCAS or DDe (which register many variants).

Furthermore, I have a problem, if I should crawl and there comes a punishment scene, my character is standing, only when I reload, the crawl animation is again.

The crawling animation should be forced upon you by the owner/collar. Try walking around, going away then closer to your owner.

Greetings!

 

 

PS: if i must crawl, then the Owner ask what he want... if i get told to knee, if i am near.. i am waiting 1 hour as example.. Skyrim hangs up.

 

 

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Ich habe da bitte ein paar Fragen:

 

Dieses Addon, bei dem man einstellen kann welche Geräte angelegt werden sollen funktioniert nicht, egal was ich da einstelle, mir wird immer nur dieser Standart Zaz Knebel angelegt.

 

Bekommt man denn eigentlich auch irgendwann noch andere Geräte angelegt als der Knebel und eine Augenbinde nach einer missglückten Flucht? Also Gürtel, Boots oder sonstiges?

 

Des weiteren habe ich ein Problem, wenn ich kriechen soll und es kommt dann eine Bestrafungsszene, steht mein Charakter wieder, erst wenn ich neu lade, ist die Kriechen Animation wieder an.

 

Grüße!

 

[Krynn]

Das einzige Problem was ich mit diesem Mod seit eh und je habe ist folgendes:

 

Wenn ich versklavt werde, dann wird mir so ein komisches Halsband angelegt und Arm und Beinfesseln...

 

Aber: es ist egal was auch immer ich mache, es wird nichts hinzugefügt.. also keine anderen Geräte... Schuhe, Arm oder Bein-Fesseln, Gürtel (Plugs) usw usw...

 

Als Beispiel: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1386-sanguine%E2%80%99s-debauchery-patches/

 

Bei diesem Mod wurde man bestraft mit diversen Fesseln und dergleichen... leider wird er wohl nicht mehr weiter unterstützt.

 

Im Vergleich dazu ist diese Version leider langweilig.

 

aber egal... danke!

 

 

 

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The only problem I have with this mod since ever has been the following:

 

If I am enslaved, then I will have a comic collar and arm and leg cuffs ...

 

But: it does not matter what I do, there is nothing added .. so no other devices ... shoes, arm or leg-shackles, belts (plugs) etc. etc ...

 

For example: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1386-sanguine%E2%80%99s-debauchery-patches/

 

In this mod you were punished with various fetters and the like ... unfortunately, he will probably no longer supported.

 

In comparison, this version is unfortunately boring.

 

But no matter

[Levrette]

I'm having a slight issue with SD+ (well...apart from being made to crawl around chugging skooma and begging for scraps) that seems to be more pronounced with this latest version than the previous one: It keeps kicking me out of first person, usually less than a second after switch from third person.

 

It could be a conflict with other mods (the only camera mods I use are Customizable Camera and Enhanced Camera (SKSE plugin)) but this happens only while using SD+ and not with other DD or ZaZ mods.

 

Is this a known issue that I simply failed to read about or is it something peculiar to my game..and if it's either of those, is there a way to fix it, please?

 

Sorry, I hadn't properly looked at the linked issues page. Is a fix in the works or is it one of those infuriating bugs without an obvious source?

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'm having a slight issue with SD+ (well...apart from being made to crawl around chugging skooma and begging for scraps) that seems to be more pronounced with this latest version than the previous one: It keeps kicking me out of first person, usually less than a second after switch from third person.

 

It could be a conflict with other mods (the only camera mods I use are Customizable Camera and Enhanced Camera (SKSE plugin)) but this happens only while using SD+ and not with other DD or ZaZ mods.

 

Is this a known issue that I simply failed to read about or is it something peculiar to my game..and if it's either of those, is there a way to fix it, please?

 

Sorry, I hadn't properly looked at the linked issues page. Is a fix in the works or is it one of those infuriating bugs without an obvious source?

It is a bug without an obvious source. I can't reproduce it on my end.

 

I am not experiencing that bug in my game, which is not helping at all.

[bicobus]

 

I'm having a slight issue with SD+ (well...apart from being made to crawl around chugging skooma and begging for scraps) that seems to be more pronounced with this latest version than the previous one: It keeps kicking me out of first person, usually less than a second after switch from third person.

 

It could be a conflict with other mods (the only camera mods I use are Customizable Camera and Enhanced Camera (SKSE plugin)) but this happens only while using SD+ and not with other DD or ZaZ mods.

 

Is this a known issue that I simply failed to read about or is it something peculiar to my game..and if it's either of those, is there a way to fix it, please?

 

Sorry, I hadn't properly looked at the linked issues page. Is a fix in the works or is it one of those infuriating bugs without an obvious source?

It is a bug without an obvious source. I can't reproduce it on my end.

 

I am not experiencing that bug in my game, which is not helping at all.

 

 

What happens if you disable "Immersive First Person", either through a keybind or totally?

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I'm having a slight issue with SD+ (well...apart from being made to crawl around chugging skooma and begging for scraps) that seems to be more pronounced with this latest version than the previous one: It keeps kicking me out of first person, usually less than a second after switch from third person.

 

It could be a conflict with other mods (the only camera mods I use are Customizable Camera and Enhanced Camera (SKSE plugin)) but this happens only while using SD+ and not with other DD or ZaZ mods.

 

Is this a known issue that I simply failed to read about or is it something peculiar to my game..and if it's either of those, is there a way to fix it, please?

 

Sorry, I hadn't properly looked at the linked issues page. Is a fix in the works or is it one of those infuriating bugs without an obvious source?

It is a bug without an obvious source. I can't reproduce it on my end.

 

I am not experiencing that bug in my game, which is not helping at all.

 

 

What happens if you disable "Immersive First Person", either through a keybind or totally?

 

 

 

I tried disabling it but I still couldn't reproduce the bug.

 

If anything, it seems IFPV has fixed the issue for some people.

[Levrette]

 

It is a bug without an obvious source. I can't reproduce it on my end.

 

I am not experiencing that bug in my game, which is not helping at all.

 

 

What happens if you disable "Immersive First Person", either through a keybind or totally?

 

 

 

I've now removed both Customizable Camera and Enhanced Camera and no matter whether DD's "Immersive First Person" is checked or not, I still get put back into third person almost instantly.

 

I can't think of any other installed mods that might have an effect on this, nothing fiddles with the camera except..perhaps Defeat and Death Alternative (when knocked down/in Bleedout it switches to 3rd person) but why should that get triggered constantly while enslaved?

 

Edit: Oh..right..sorry, did not quite comprehend what you were saying. Have now installed IFPV and it has fixed the issue completely! Thank you very much for that!

 

I just need to fiddle with IFPV to get rid of the head bobbing and general bounciness but it seems to be pretty much the same as Enhanced Camera in general use.

 

[Kujo187]

Just to make sure I'm talking about the same outfit.

 

 

This is the outfit I'm looking for ingame. Thanks again for any help!!

[DeepBlueFrog]

Just to make sure I'm talking about the same outfit.

 

 

This is the outfit I'm looking for ingame. Thanks again for any help!!

 

That outfit is not in SD+

 

There was a similar one as a custom slave rags outfit in the previous version of SD+ but it never rendered properly and I had to get rid of it.

[Guest]

I'm having a slight issue with SD+ (well...apart from being made to crawl around chugging skooma and begging for scraps) that seems to be more pronounced with this latest version than the previous one: It keeps kicking me out of first person, usually less than a second after switch from third person.

 

It could be a conflict with other mods (the only camera mods I use are Customizable Camera and Enhanced Camera (SKSE plugin)) but this happens only while using SD+ and not with other DD or ZaZ mods.

 

Is this a known issue that I simply failed to read about or is it something peculiar to my game..and if it's either of those, is there a way to fix it, please?

 

Sorry, I hadn't properly looked at the linked issues page. Is a fix in the works or is it one of those infuriating bugs without an obvious source?

weird I have the same problem along with the other problem I have with my idle animations, both are caused by SD+ as they both only trigger with SD+ installed.

 

Here are screenshots I have taken of what my character looks like when SD+ is loading(picture with whiterun) and when SD+ is done loading(picture with winterhold) so you can get an idea on the problem with my idle animations, any ideas on how to fix this?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Das einzige Problem was ich mit diesem Mod seit eh und je habe ist folgendes:

 

Wenn ich versklavt werde, dann wird mir so ein komisches Halsband angelegt und Arm und Beinfesseln...

 

Aber: es ist egal was auch immer ich mache, es wird nichts hinzugefügt.. also keine anderen Geräte... Schuhe, Arm oder Bein-Fesseln, Gürtel (Plugs) usw usw...

 

Als Beispiel: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1386-sanguine%E2%80%99s-debauchery-patches/

 

Bei diesem Mod wurde man bestraft mit diversen Fesseln und dergleichen... leider wird er wohl nicht mehr weiter unterstützt.

 

Im Vergleich dazu ist diese Version leider langweilig.

 

aber egal... danke!

 

 

 

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The only problem I have with this mod since ever has been the following:

 

If I am enslaved, then I will have a comic collar and arm and leg cuffs ...

 

But: it does not matter what I do, there is nothing added .. so no other devices ... shoes, arm or leg-shackles, belts (plugs) etc. etc ...

 

For example: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1386-sanguine%E2%80%99s-debauchery-patches/

 

In this mod you were punished with various fetters and the like ... unfortunately, he will probably no longer supported.

 

In comparison, this version is unfortunately boring.

 

But no matter

 

I have plans to add more punishment types now that I rewrote the punishment system.

I will try to add more interesting items from Devious Devices Expansion in the next version.

[Kujo187]

 

 

That outfit is not in SD+

 

There was a similar one as a custom slave rags outfit in the previous version of SD+ but it never rendered properly and I had to get rid of it.

 

 

Hmmm that's very odd. It definitely came with the SD+ downloads and it's name in bodyslide is CT77_SD+_slave_outfit. That's too bad it doesn't work ingame though cuz its awesome.

 

Oh well, thanks for the quick responses and great work on the mod!!!