vladivostok Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Thank you for your great work! also, Kimy's. What is going on here may be one of the biggest events happened in Skyrim, and the civil war between stormcloak and the empire definitely is not big enough to be one of them. I'm really happy to see real modders discussing problem like this. Here in my country, we called this men in temper(which is a commendatory term). Discussions in international forums are always constuctive. It happens in my country that modders and developers argue about things, players pick sides and attack each other personally, plagiar and speculator take the benefit, leaving nothing good. I dont want to interupt your talking. Please come up with a solution and stay!
Kimy Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 11 hours ago, Veladarius said: At this point, yes, that would satisfy me. Seriously, next time just TALK to me, ok? Â https://github.com/DeviousDevices/DDi/commit/30afa8681b2b3056c4d2e96fb0cbd012efb80439 4
Guest Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, Kimy said: Seriously, next time just TALK to me, ok? Â https://github.com/DeviousDevices/DDi/commit/30afa8681b2b3056c4d2e96fb0cbd012efb80439 " TheKimy committed 7 hours from now " Â Kimy I know you work fast but I think this was a little too fast, you might have caused some kind of time anomaly
Kimy Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Bobbert6996 said: " TheKimy committed 7 hours from now " Â Kimy I know you work fast but I think this was a little too fast, you might have caused some kind of time anomaly Ssssh! We don't want to let anyone know!
Veladarius Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Kimy said: Seriously, next time just TALK to me, ok?  https://github.com/DeviousDevices/DDi/commit/30afa8681b2b3056c4d2e96fb0cbd012efb80439 Believe me I have tried but for some reason we never saw things eye to eye. I think once things flared up over all of this our vision towards each other was tainted.  You were always looking from a modders perspective as to how the devices worked and I looked from the player's perspective (at least that is how it seemed to me). It took me over an hour in chat on discord with CG! trying to explain what I have been trying to explain to you and he kept thinking there were issues with the code in DD. I had to tell him that there were no issues with the code (he asked that twice) and they operated as intended but that it was how the devices operated in game on the player and that I was looking to get standard devices to act in ways not covered by options in v4. Once I finally got him to understand he brushed off my preferences and I ended up disconnecting and deleting him from my discord contacts (not that I have many) because I was so frustrated. This was the same conversation where I was given the information that led to everything that happened over the last few days.  With my bi polar I work to restrain myself from reacting to something that is negative immediately but I am not always successful, CG! just hit too many buttons.  I still don't know when I will be able to start work on CD again but I will. I would prefer sooner than later but I don't have much control over that. 10
CGi Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Veladarius said: [snip] But in the end we figured out that it was personal preference, it just took forever to get there. Somewhere 50% through this forth and back, i felt like navigating a minefield with no way to avoid the mines compltely so i tried to trigger as little as possible. Didn't work out so well but i'm human, so errors have been made. i'm just glad that the "situation" could finally be resolved. 1
Diziet Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 8 hours ago, t.ara said: ???? Â one for KIMY:? one for VELI:? Â ? Second that!!! Glad you worked it out, I haven't done one single playthrough without both your mods in my load order. Â And Vel, take your sweet time, man. Ignore those that seem to put pressure on you, we're just glad you're sticking with us. Â now: scotch or vodka? ? 1
vladivostok Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 after i started slavery in mcm and chose property slave in the boat, i was sent to the mine, but stayed on the cross forever. no one came to release or talk to the character at all. i started player control in mcm but couldnt find a pickax to do the work.
vladivostok Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 11:48 AM, Veladarius said: CD is not entirely compatible with DDÂ v4+ particularly when it comes to any items that bind the hands/arms. The yoke is a standard yoke so you can give yourself a key and struggle out of it or use a mod that can remove standard items. this problem is solved after using the removal update. thanks!!!
Laura Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 I'm so glad this is resolved. ? Today is a good day for kinky mods. 6
t.ara Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018  Veladarius told: "Believe me I have tried but for some reason we never saw things eye to eye. I think once things flared up over all of this our vision towards each other was tainted.  You were always looking from a modders perspective as to how the devices worked and I looked from the player's perspective (at least that is how it seemed to me). It took me over an hour in chat on discord with CG! trying to explain what I have been trying to explain to you and he kept thinking there were issues with the code in DD. I had to tell him that there were no issues with the code (he asked that twice) and they operated as intended but that it was how the devices operated in game on the player and that I was looking to get standard devices to act in ways not covered by options in v4. Once I finally got him to understand he brushed off my preferences and I ended up disconnecting and deleting him from my discord contacts (not that I have many) because I was so frustrated. This was the same conversation where I was given the information that led to everything that happened over the last few days.  With my bi polar I work to restrain myself from reacting to something that is negative immediately but I am not always successful, CG! just hit too many buttons.  I still don't know when I will be able to start work on CD again but I will. I would prefer sooner than later but I don't have much control over that."   I´m very happy with this:-) This are words of a "real man" and I know how hard is is, if I have personally to regret mistakes or if I went wrong somehow. It´s also not anymore important how it all began and I think it´s the best to look forward. Different opinions can lead into a disaster with personal "likes" or "dislikes": so if he or she argues this way, I have a "douchebag" in front of me...and so on and so on. It´s a process of "forgiving", "cleaning" and "resetting" the system, the "brain/mind/thoughts". You may now be able to return to those days, before all this "black-clouds" {thought about the movie: "Breezy"} went hanging over the head. I´m sure, that controverse discussions between you and CGI become "cleaned" as well. I enjoy when you are working all together in a positive atmosphere and I really wish you, VELADARIUS, KIMY and CGI all the best. The foreground is here of course KIMY´s, CGI´s and VELADARIUS´s health and well-being, and secondary is follow the modding and then the community. Me, I also learned my lesson here: I don´t like (anymore) to have this ZAP against DD nonsence...!  And I guess that LAURA ^^^^ is very much right over there, in #19276;-))    2
Veladarius Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Beethoven kicked up to epic scale. Most of it is still orchestral but a few parts have a bit of synth mainly for effects. They describe these as 'Epic Trailers' and are short, the video has 3 songs and clocks in at about 10 minutes. Includes Midnight Sonata, Symphony No 5 and Fur Elise. I have also included Romeo and Juliet and Ride of the Valkyries (didn't know how you could make that any more epic but they did). All of these are on an EP and available to buy ($5 on iTunes)      They have lots more music as well.  Music like this can help get me going again. 2
CovertDemon Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 So, due to that unexpected plot twist, will it still have minimal compatibility with DD4? Or will there be another plot twist where it'll make the jump to the latest version of DD? I don't mind either way, it's just that the whole thing was quite the roller coaster.
jigwigigx Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 WTF is going on here, I thought CDS was finished, what is this update about? Reading back through the pages here, it seems things have been sorted out, so does this mean CD is finally going to get a DD4 compatible update? It would be nice to see that and Trapped in Rubber updated as well because since the DD4 framework was released, apparently to make it easy for modders to create more devious mods, I have not seen a single new mod, only updated versions of existing ones. I haven't the faintest idea how to use this framework to make a mod, I wish I did because I have a lot of good ideas and I would get busy doing it, I just don't know where to start. DD4 has come on really well since the first release, the only remaining issue I have with it now is that dumb, multi faceted escape system, why couldn't it be 'one click fits all'?
Veladarius Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, CovertDemon said: So, due to that unexpected plot twist, will it still have minimal compatibility with DD4? Or will there be another plot twist where it'll make the jump to the latest version of DD? I don't mind either way, it's just that the whole thing was quite the roller coaster. It will likely be a full v4 update. I can still keep the scripting for armbinders and yokes so those using v3 will still have them removable but I am not sure how backwards compatible other devices are.  There is no eta on the update as I still need to finish the other items slated for the v4.16 update as well. 3
Veladarius Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, jigwigigx said: WTF is going on here, I thought CDS was finished, what is this update about? Reading back through the pages here, it seems things have been sorted out, so does this mean CD is finally going to get a DD4 compatible update? It would be nice to see that and Trapped in Rubber updated as well because since the DD4 framework was released, apparently to make it easy for modders to create more devious mods, I have not seen a single new mod, only updated versions of existing ones. I haven't the faintest idea how to use this framework to make a mod, I wish I did because I have a lot of good ideas and I would get busy doing it, I just don't know where to start. DD4 has come on really well since the first release, the only remaining issue I have with it now is that dumb, multi faceted escape system, why couldn't it be 'one click fits all'? 1 - yes, CD will go to v4 2 - It isn't hard to use the framework to equip and unequip devices, people are willing to help if asked 3 - 'One Click Fits All' was the reason I didn't update as everyone has different ways they want to use it. It's not like it was hard to set up in v3 and v4 has fewer settings to fiddle with for players. 4
jigwigigx Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 2 - It isn't hard to use the framework to equip and unequip devices, people are willing to help if asked  Ok, let me just throw this out there, suppose I wanted to write a very basic mod with a single npc and some dd's thrown in, where would I start? Creation kit or what? Does it have to be from scratch?
steelmagpie Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018  As a humble player I am pleased to see those I see as Modding genius's finding a path to resolution... Your next challenge, world peace.. piece of cake compared to modding I'd bet..  Vel, play that music loud and enjoy,,, anything that helps you battle through the lows of BP is good "medicine" for mind and soul..  Kimy the no jam button is just what I needed too even If I never realised it.  To all the other "players", hyperthetical thought.. Imagine if Vel, Kimy and T.ara teamed up and made a mod how "complete" it would be.. It would melt minds ..
shadowwolf2k7 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 i think it would be a combination of CD DCUR's followers, and the Furniture from ZAP 8/8+
Veladarius Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 3 hours ago, jigwigigx said: 2 - It isn't hard to use the framework to equip and unequip devices, people are willing to help if asked  Ok, let me just throw this out there, suppose I wanted to write a very basic mod with a single npc and some dd's thrown in, where would I start? Creation kit or what? Does it have to be from scratch? I use the Creation Kit myself but that is because it is far easier to find things in it than trying to make a mod in TESVEdit unless you know your way around it really well. You can modify an existing mod such as a follower mod or a mod that adds a location and add an additional npc who is bound or bind one that is there. You can also create something from scratch if you want. Whatever you want to create you can with a bit of time and learning.  If you have an idea for a mod, pm me and we can discuss it and I can go over some things with you and if you do build it and are having issues I will help with what to do and why. The commands are simple even though they look daunting but I'm not a programmer and I managed to end up doing quite a bit.
Nohrin Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 7:40 PM, Veladarius said: I don't know why the player would not be animated as they are set directly as an actor and the scripts I use for sex scenes are pretty much the same across the entire mod (copy, paste then adjust). Only thing I can think of is that you should not have control of your character just before it starts BUT CD does return control of the character just before it starts so CD is not doing anything with the player when it starts the SexLab scene. I would suggest trying to enable the player controls and see if it kicks in then as something else may be trying to take over and interfering. That fixed it. I had to time it properly, and right after the "Guest" talked to me, I had to reset idles, and that did the trick. Thanks.  Edit:-Also how long does this route go on for? My character is acting rebellious and is not getting good tips. Does this mean it will go on until I earn a certain amount of money? Or are there triggers to advance her through the "quest"?  Re-read main page and learnt there are 14 stages, and I was on the second last stage. I assume freedom comes after the "5 days in the cage" stage? Oh joy...  Is it normal for after the 5 days in the cage, to be sent into Simple Slavery? The note that was given to me "to my ex-slave" tells me my items/gear would be in a bag nearby, however since I am in simple slavery, there is no bag or anything nearby, and I am walked off on stage and re-sold into Captured Dreams. Is this intended?Â
radbomber Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Still a bit confused on what's going on. But from what I've gathered I'm glad to see that the creator of my favorite mod is going to stick around
Veladarius Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 52 minutes ago, visoth said: That fixed it. I had to time it properly, and right after the "Guest" talked to me, I had to reset idles, and that did the trick. Thanks. Â Edit: Also how long does this route go on for? My character is acting rebellious and is not getting good tips. Does this mean it will go on until I earn a certain amount of money? Or are there triggers to advance her through the "quest"? The amount you are supposed to generate is randomly generated, once you fall behind by an entire day's amount it should drop you down. There are 2 levels of the roadside task, they are obvious as to the position you are put in. You may be there a while, if you want to fail quickly then wait through until about 7pm so you get no customers and you will fail quickly.
Veladarius Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, radbomber said: Still a bit confused on what's going on. But from what I've gathered I'm glad to see that the creator of my favorite mod is going to stick around What happened? We were on the verge of WW III and somehow world peace broke out. 3
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