vrelk Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I am having a crashing issue during cursed loot events, and I think I have narrowed it down to CD. I have the Chaste life quest active. My spouse currently has a posture collar, bra and belt on me. Whenever I encounter a cursed loot event I end up getting arm cuffs, leg cuffs, followed by a crash. I tried this with the cursed loot self bondage option and crashed again, although after a few more and different items. I think that extra item might be a corset since putting one on myself also causes a crash, although after setting a chance of a corset to be applied to 0 I still crash during a cursed loot event. If I remove the CD plugin (nothing but slave boots on after this) and repeat the self bondage option, I don't crash. Thoughts? Unlike the usual crash to the desktop, or the CrashFix skse plugin message, I get a windows "lets find a fix for this" box. This also happens when exiting the game normally, but this never happened before today's 3 hour debugging session. Doubt it will mean anything, but here's this: 03 Aug 20:21:44 Game has crashed with exception address 0xAAF2DC!03 Aug 20:23:41 Game has crashed with exception address 0xABEAB4!03 Aug 20:27:13 Game has crashed with exception address 0x77B561EB!
Veladarius Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 I am having a crashing issue during cursed loot events, and I think I have narrowed it down to CD. I have the Chaste life quest active. My spouse currently has a posture collar, bra and belt on me. Whenever I encounter a cursed loot event I end up getting arm cuffs, leg cuffs, followed by a crash. I tried this with the cursed loot self bondage option and crashed again, although after a few more and different items. I think that extra item might be a corset since putting one on myself also causes a crash, although after setting a chance of a corset to be applied to 0 I still crash during a cursed loot event. If I remove the CD plugin (nothing but slave boots on after this) and repeat the self bondage option, I don't crash. Thoughts? Unlike the usual crash to the desktop, or the CrashFix skse plugin message, I get a windows "lets find a fix for this" box. This also happens when exiting the game normally, but this never happened before today's 3 hour debugging session. Doubt it will mean anything, but here's this: 03 Aug 20:21:44 Game has crashed with exception address 0xAAF2DC! 03 Aug 20:23:41 Game has crashed with exception address 0xABEAB4! 03 Aug 20:27:13 Game has crashed with exception address 0x77B561EB! No idea on this, the devices from Chaste Life / Chaste Spouse have been around for some time and I have not had any issues using them with Cursed Loot (though I am not sure if I have the latest version of it installed). The only real difference between CD quest devices and standard devices is they have a custom menu which removes the options to unlock or force your way out of them successfully. Upload a papyrus log from one of the crashes.
vrelk Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 No idea on this, the devices from Chaste Life / Chaste Spouse have been around for some time and I have not had any issues using them with Cursed Loot (though I am not sure if I have the latest version of it installed). The only real difference between CD quest devices and standard devices is they have a custom menu which removes the options to unlock or force your way out of them successfully. Upload a papyrus log from one of the crashes. Any suggestions on getting papryus logs to work? I have the following in skyrim.ini already, but im not getting any logs, or even a log folder for that matter. U:\Users\******\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Skyrim.ini (I remapped my documents off the ssd, saves also go in this folder. I checked the one on C drive and "My Games" doesn't even exist there) [Papyrus] fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation=1 fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2000000477
LazyBoot Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I am having a crashing issue during cursed loot events, and I think I have narrowed it down to CD. I have the Chaste life quest active. My spouse currently has a posture collar, bra and belt on me. Whenever I encounter a cursed loot event I end up getting arm cuffs, leg cuffs, followed by a crash. I tried this with the cursed loot self bondage option and crashed again, although after a few more and different items. I think that extra item might be a corset since putting one on myself also causes a crash, although after setting a chance of a corset to be applied to 0 I still crash during a cursed loot event. If I remove the CD plugin (nothing but slave boots on after this) and repeat the self bondage option, I don't crash. Thoughts? Unlike the usual crash to the desktop, or the CrashFix skse plugin message, I get a windows "lets find a fix for this" box. This also happens when exiting the game normally, but this never happened before today's 3 hour debugging session. Doubt it will mean anything, but here's this: 03 Aug 20:21:44 Game has crashed with exception address 0xAAF2DC! 03 Aug 20:23:41 Game has crashed with exception address 0xABEAB4! 03 Aug 20:27:13 Game has crashed with exception address 0x77B561EB! No idea on this, the devices from Chaste Life / Chaste Spouse have been around for some time and I have not had any issues using them with Cursed Loot (though I am not sure if I have the latest version of it installed). The only real difference between CD quest devices and standard devices is they have a custom menu which removes the options to unlock or force your way out of them successfully. Upload a papyrus log from one of the crashes. My guess is that @vrelk is using CBBE and this is another case of the open-belt + corset crash.
Veladarius Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 I am having a crashing issue during cursed loot events, and I think I have narrowed it down to CD. I have the Chaste life quest active. My spouse currently has a posture collar, bra and belt on me. Whenever I encounter a cursed loot event I end up getting arm cuffs, leg cuffs, followed by a crash. I tried this with the cursed loot self bondage option and crashed again, although after a few more and different items. I think that extra item might be a corset since putting one on myself also causes a crash, although after setting a chance of a corset to be applied to 0 I still crash during a cursed loot event. If I remove the CD plugin (nothing but slave boots on after this) and repeat the self bondage option, I don't crash. Thoughts? Unlike the usual crash to the desktop, or the CrashFix skse plugin message, I get a windows "lets find a fix for this" box. This also happens when exiting the game normally, but this never happened before today's 3 hour debugging session. Doubt it will mean anything, but here's this: 03 Aug 20:21:44 Game has crashed with exception address 0xAAF2DC! 03 Aug 20:23:41 Game has crashed with exception address 0xABEAB4! 03 Aug 20:27:13 Game has crashed with exception address 0x77B561EB! No idea on this, the devices from Chaste Life / Chaste Spouse have been around for some time and I have not had any issues using them with Cursed Loot (though I am not sure if I have the latest version of it installed). The only real difference between CD quest devices and standard devices is they have a custom menu which removes the options to unlock or force your way out of them successfully. Upload a papyrus log from one of the crashes. My guess is that @vrelk is using CBBE and this is another case of the open-belt + corset crash. If so I suggest going to the DD development github site, downloading the development files and extracting the bodyslide files and use those. That is what I did and it worked fine.
Amrovich Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Hey, give this mod a look .. maybe add it to your mod :D
Krynn Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Hey, give this mod a look .. maybe add it to your mod :D Yes and No.. my opinion. The armor can not be adjusted, I think Vel can be better! I've tried using caliente tools to bring the armor to UNP, but the physics of HDT do not really allow it to fit!
vrelk Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 My guess is that @vrelk is using CBBE and this is another case of the open-belt + corset crash. If so I suggest going to the DD development github site, downloading the development files and extracting the bodyslide files and use those. That is what I did and it worked fine. Thank you. I still crash after getting the dev version of DDa and running BS and FNIS again though, but I did switch to a closed back belt and that fixed the crash. That is good enough for me for now as the alternative is to remove CD completely. If you can think of something I missed so I don't run into this same crash further down the road, let me know.
Veladarius Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 My guess is that @vrelk is using CBBE and this is another case of the open-belt + corset crash. If so I suggest going to the DD development github site, downloading the development files and extracting the bodyslide files and use those. That is what I did and it worked fine. Thank you. I still crash after getting the dev version of DDa and running BS and FNIS again though, but I did switch to a closed back belt and that fixed the crash. That is good enough for me for now as the alternative is to remove CD completely. If you can think of something I missed so I don't run into this same crash further down the road, let me know. Get the DDx version as well as I believe the issue is with the Ebonite corset/belt combo and that is in DDx not DDa (they have different meshes for whatever reason). Make sure to change the version to the development version on the left side of the page (straight left of the download button) as the Master version does not have the updated bodyslide files. Hey, give this mod a look .. maybe add it to your mod :D Yes and No.. my opinion. The armor can not be adjusted, I think Vel can be better! I've tried using caliente tools to bring the armor to UNP, but the physics of HDT do not really allow it to fit! I have seen it and have been given permission to use it. This is something that would likely be used in the quest series involving the dwemer but not likely used on the player.
crayne Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I seem to have a problem with the jobs. I've completed delivery and retrievel, but after several ingame weeks, master tells me none available. I've used the MCM menu option "Restart Task Manager", but still none available. Or do i have to wait for the amount of days chosen in MCM menu after restart?
Veladarius Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 I seem to have a problem with the jobs. I've completed delivery and retrievel, but after several ingame weeks, master tells me none available. I've used the MCM menu option "Restart Task Manager", but still none available. Or do i have to wait for the amount of days chosen in MCM menu after restart? The task manager updates in the morning each day (6 am) but you can try resetting both of those quests as well.
vrelk Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Thank you. I still crash after getting the dev version of DDa and running BS and FNIS again though, but I did switch to a closed back belt and that fixed the crash. That is good enough for me for now as the alternative is to remove CD completely. If you can think of something I missed so I don't run into this same crash further down the road, let me know. Get the DDx version as well as I believe the issue is with the Ebonite corset/belt combo and that is in DDx not DDa (they have different meshes for whatever reason). Make sure to change the version to the development version on the left side of the page (straight left of the download button) as the Master version does not have the updated bodyslide files. I got DDa and DDx, and got it in dev instead of master this time, which fixed it. Thank you very much. Hopefully that dev branch gets pushed out, or someone makes a nice faq post that is easy to find for others. Still, any suggestions on getting papryus logs to work? Might help with some other random crashes im getting.
vyseari Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I've tried installing the dev bodyslide files, yet i am still getting a CTD anytime i get near the lighthouse. Is there any other suggestion? or a console command to skip this step?
Veladarius Posted August 5, 2017 Author Posted August 5, 2017 Hey, sorry to bother you since I'm sure this sort of issue springs up a lot. When trying to remove a cursed loot (this mod is usually more trouble than it's worth, I should just uninstall it already) belt through the captured dreams NPC, the notification that a belt item is being removed comes up, but never gets unequipped. The item is visible on the actor, AND it appears to be equipped in the inventory. Trying to remove the item from my inventory through the developer console makes the notification " Removed" (sic). I've read the FAQ, and nothing for this has really worked so far. I'm just wondering what sort of log messages I should be looking for, or what mods I should try to make sure logging is enabled on. Thanks in advance. Also, the NPC on the right just as you enter the building rapidly switches animations. It's pretty funny, but I'm guessing this isn't intended behaviour. What kind of belt from Cursed Loot is it? There are only certain items that can be removed but if it says it can remove it then it should be able to. As for log messages it would involve a CD script and one of the DDi scripts (starts with ZAD_), likely that something sent is either not a DD item or a NONE item. Note: if you are using the Beta version of DD it may be a conflict there, no idea as I am not touching it until it is actually released. If the npc's are constantly changing positions then something is trying to do something to them or scanning them, possibly a cloak effect from a mod that is set to do something. Thank you. I still crash after getting the dev version of DDa and running BS and FNIS again though, but I did switch to a closed back belt and that fixed the crash. That is good enough for me for now as the alternative is to remove CD completely. If you can think of something I missed so I don't run into this same crash further down the road, let me know. Get the DDx version as well as I believe the issue is with the Ebonite corset/belt combo and that is in DDx not DDa (they have different meshes for whatever reason). Make sure to change the version to the development version on the left side of the page (straight left of the download button) as the Master version does not have the updated bodyslide files. I got DDa and DDx, and got it in dev instead of master this time, which fixed it. Thank you very much. Hopefully that dev branch gets pushed out, or someone makes a nice faq post that is easy to find for others. Still, any suggestions on getting papryus logs to work? Might help with some other random crashes im getting. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3018379-papyrus-log-mod-organizer-where-is-it/ I've tried installing the dev bodyslide files, yet i am still getting a CTD anytime i get near the lighthouse. Is there any other suggestion? or a console command to skip this step? The only thing known to cause the crash is the corset. There is no way around this for this quest but you can try deleting the meshes for the corset/belt combinations, since it is the mesh that causes the crash if there is no mesh then it should work (though it will look like they have no belt or corset on).
Discount MIB Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 >What kind of belt from Cursed Loot is it? This particular item's called "Slave Chastitiy Belt", and it's removeable according to your mod. Thanks for the advice on the logs, I'll take a look around
Shion11 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 i'm having a problem with jarl elsif the fair. she repeats scenes where i have to rebind her and in the middle of the scene before leading her to the bed, she randomly says "what was that?" i have tried a fresh save with and without hydra slave girls to see if it was affecting the scenes in the bedroom, and it does not affect it as far as i see it. right now i'm on the second session and instead of talking to her, it's starting with the end of the 1st session. other than that, the quest started fine and started smoothly. is there a way to advance it safely through the console?
Shion11 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 >As for log messages it would involve a CD script and one of the DDi scripts (starts with ZAD_), likely that something sent is either not a DD item or a NONE item. Sorry to double post, but the phrase "ERROR: None is not a valid inventory item" frequently pops up in my log. This wouldn't be related, right? have you tried using something such as cursed loot's debug menu? i use it to get rid of almost everything if i don't have the key. also, i use cursed loot bondage traps to get rid of things in a same way.
Discount MIB Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Thanks Shion, missed that functionality as I looked around the MCM. The thing's called "Safeword", for future reference. Guess I can just fork in the 750 gold, and pretend that bitch did her part of the deal
shadowwolf2k7 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 >What kind of belt from Cursed Loot is it? This particular item's called "Slave Chastitiy Belt", and it's removeable according to your mod. Thanks for the advice on the logs, I'll take a look around depending on your dd settings and your lock picking skill, you can pick the lock, or find the right keys, cursed loots "freeme" will also remove it. i have yet to see "master" be able to remove it. but since i usually have a high enough lock picking (30+) i just lock pick it. you will need atleast a 20 in lock picking to have a chance at picking it.
Veladarius Posted August 5, 2017 Author Posted August 5, 2017 i'm having a problem with jarl elsif the fair. she repeats scenes where i have to rebind her and in the middle of the scene before leading her to the bed, she randomly says "what was that?" i have tried a fresh save with and without hydra slave girls to see if it was affecting the scenes in the bedroom, and it does not affect it as far as i see it. right now i'm on the second session and instead of talking to her, it's starting with the end of the 1st session. other than that, the quest started fine and started smoothly. is there a way to advance it safely through the console? Use sqv CDxExpQuest03 and get the following variables for me as well as the quest stage sessionnumber boundsession ElisifWillSee As for the 'what was that?' that was the walkaway dialogue kicking in as you dropped out of the dialogue and it is bringing you back into it. If it happens often then something is interrupting the dialogue.
vrelk Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I got DDa and DDx, and got it in dev instead of master this time, which fixed it. Thank you very much. Hopefully that dev branch gets pushed out, or someone makes a nice faq post that is easy to find for others. Still, any suggestions on getting papryus logs to work? Might help with some other random crashes im getting. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3018379-papyrus-log-mod-organizer-where-is-it/ I've tried installing the dev bodyslide files, yet i am still getting a CTD anytime i get near the lighthouse. Is there any other suggestion? or a console command to skip this step? The only thing known to cause the crash is the corset. There is no way around this for this quest but you can try deleting the meshes for the corset/belt combinations, since it is the mesh that causes the crash if there is no mesh then it should work (though it will look like they have no belt or corset on). -Thanks, good to know. Didn't know mod organizer did that with settings. -That sort of crash isn't CD related. Not sure what it belongs to actually, but I haven't been able to approach Mortal for about a month now. Unfortunately I didn't think of reverting the save at the time, so I'm kinda locked out of that area now. I was able to go there, but I had to disable every mod I had first.
Veladarius Posted August 5, 2017 Author Posted August 5, 2017 >As for log messages it would involve a CD script and one of the DDi scripts (starts with ZAD_), likely that something sent is either not a DD item or a NONE item. Sorry to double post, but the phrase "ERROR: None is not a valid inventory item" frequently pops up in my log. This wouldn't be related, right? The removal system uses several semi-generic DDi functions to look up devices and get their parts. It starts by figuring out what items you are wearing by the wornhaskeyword function then looks up the inventory item using the keyword and then the rendered item using the inventory item. The error you are getting means that it detected a device, looked up the inventory item but came up with nothing (DD could not find a device using that keyword as the primary keyword) and when it went to look up the rendered device it had NONE for the Inventory item piece. The most common scenario for this with a belt is if it is a harness as the harness has the belt keyword on it but its primary keyword is the one for the harness. This can also happen with hoods that have multiple effects such as a gag or blindfold as it will try to remove those but since they are part of the hood they come up with NONE as well. I do have safeguards for these, in the case of belts it also looks for the harness keyword on it and for hoods they are set to be removed before gags and blindfolds and since they are no longer on you it should skip trying to remove them. Some other causes for this is either script overload and the removal function is failing, the device has an issue with it (possibly due to script overload and has broken the device) or you are using the beta version and there is an issue with one of the DDi functions not working correctly. Upload an entire log and I will look at it.
Shion11 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 i'm having a problem with jarl elsif the fair. she repeats scenes where i have to rebind her and in the middle of the scene before leading her to the bed, she randomly says "what was that?" i have tried a fresh save with and without hydra slave girls to see if it was affecting the scenes in the bedroom, and it does not affect it as far as i see it. right now i'm on the second session and instead of talking to her, it's starting with the end of the 1st session. other than that, the quest started fine and started smoothly. is there a way to advance it safely through the console? Use sqv CDxExpQuest03 and get the following variables for me as well as the quest stage sessionnumber boundsession ElisifWillSee As for the 'what was that?' that was the walkaway dialogue kicking in as you dropped out of the dialogue and it is bringing you back into it. If it happens often then something is interrupting the dialogue. the current stage is 275 sessionnumber_var is 1 Boundsession_var is 0 elsifwillsee_var is 0 here's a papyrus log from a save that's stuck near the end of the first session. the race of the PC is the ashen race, and hydra slave girls is active on it as well. if you can get any data from the log, here it is. Papyrus.0.log
Discount MIB Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 This happens a little earlier, can't guarantee it's strictly related [08/05/2017 - 03:40:41PM] ERROR: Unable to call Delete - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[item 1 in container (00000014)].zadHiderScript.Delete() - "<native>" Line ?[item 1 in container (00000014)].zadHiderScript.OnContainerChanged() - "zadHiderScript.psc" Line 5 and then this line recurs itself about a billion times [08/05/2017 - 03:40:41PM] ERROR: File "SurvivalistIngenuity.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?[WM_WidgedModQuest (5D005901)].WM_LockpickCountQuestScript.UpdateStatus() - "WM_LockpickCountQuestScript.psc" Line 112[WM_WidgedModQuest (5D005901)].WM_MasterManagerScript.OnUpdate() - "WM_MasterManagerScript.psc" Line 29[08/05/2017 - 03:40:41PM] ERROR: None is not a valid inventory itemstack:[ (00000014)].Actor.GetItemCount() - "<native>" Line ?[WM_WidgedModQuest (5D005901)].WM_LockpickCountQuestScript.UpdateStatus() - "WM_LockpickCountQuestScript.psc" Line 113[WM_WidgedModQuest (5D005901)].WM_MasterManagerScript.OnUpdate() - "WM_MasterManagerScript.psc" Line 29 No irregularities seem to pop up for the removal of the item itself though [08/05/2017 - 03:51:10PM] [Zad]: RemoveDevice called for Slave Chastity Belt[08/05/2017 - 03:51:10PM] ERROR: None is not a valid inventory itemstack:[ (00000014)].Actor.GetItemCount() - "<native>" Line ?[WM_WidgedModQuest (5D005901)].WM_LockpickCountQuestScript.UpdateStatus() - "WM_LockpickCountQuestScript.psc" Line 113[WM_WidgedModQuest (5D005901)].WM_MasterManagerScript.OnUpdate() - "WM_MasterManagerScript.psc" Line 29[08/05/2017 - 03:51:10PM] [Zad]: Acquired mutex, removing Slave Chastity Belt[08/05/2017 - 03:51:11PM] [Zad]: OnUnequipped(Abel: Slave Chastity Belt)[08/05/2017 - 03:51:11PM] [Zad]: Detected removal token. Done. Is that enough for a meaningful debug? It could be script lag, as you say.Also, SOS really wants to give the residents of Captured Dreams all schlongs for some reason, so I'd watch out if I were you.
Veladarius Posted August 5, 2017 Author Posted August 5, 2017 i'm having a problem with jarl elsif the fair. she repeats scenes where i have to rebind her and in the middle of the scene before leading her to the bed, she randomly says "what was that?" i have tried a fresh save with and without hydra slave girls to see if it was affecting the scenes in the bedroom, and it does not affect it as far as i see it. right now i'm on the second session and instead of talking to her, it's starting with the end of the 1st session. other than that, the quest started fine and started smoothly. is there a way to advance it safely through the console? Use sqv CDxExpQuest03 and get the following variables for me as well as the quest stage sessionnumber boundsession ElisifWillSee As for the 'what was that?' that was the walkaway dialogue kicking in as you dropped out of the dialogue and it is bringing you back into it. If it happens often then something is interrupting the dialogue. the current stage is 275 sessionnumber_var is 1 Boundsession_var is 0 elsifwillsee_var is 0 here's a papyrus log from a save that's stuck near the end of the first session. the race of the PC is the ashen race, and hydra slave girls is active on it as well. if you can get any data from the log, here it is. For the first session these numbers are correct. When the timer goes off and you can see Elisif the next time the sessionnumber should increase by 1. This variable is what controls everything so wait until 9pm and check these variables again and when ElisifWillSee is a 1 and not a 0 then sessionnumber should have been increased by 1. If it isn't then use setpqv cdxexpquest03 sessionnumber 2 BEFORE you speak with her and it will play the next intro (all of the intro dialogue is part of the same Dialogue Topic and is also what sets the stage) and advance the stage. This should happen for each session so if you check the sessionnumber before speaking to her and make sure it has increased then things will proceed properly. Note: advancing the session number is not recommended to skip forward in the quest, figuring out her tendency and what she wants will skip it ahead once you do, trying to do it yourself could leave other variables unset properly.
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