Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

Slorm · October 23, 2014

Vel

One other thing I forgot to mention when I was testing the bandits last night and I'm not sure you can do anything about in any case. On the new game where they work, on one of the tests after they attacked me and took the delivery, the Defeat Wildness event suddenly kicked and transported both my pc and the bandits into a wilderness location where the bandits then turned hostile and killed me.

May have just been a glitch, I've never had it happen before, I'll see if I can reproduce when the next update comes out. Do you want a log of it btw?

If you were beaten without killing any of them they get moved to a camp and will wait there for a day before leaving so you have a chance to get the delivery back. When Defeat kicked in it likely transported you with them but it ended up disrupting defeat and they went back to being hostile.

I just finished the new system for the bandits but have not started testing it to make sure it works. I ended up going with a set of bandits at each city instead of just moving one around but it required making some function sets for each group.

I just tested this again on v3.2 and I couldn't reproduce it so must have been a glitch, however I did find another small bug

After the scene fades out and fades back in, once I got rid of the armbinder and checked inventory there was a spare iron chastity belt, vaginal and anal plugs. This looks like the bandits were trying to fit them but couldn't because of the CD belt already in place so might be an idea to stop bandits trying to fit them.

Something else, in addition to asking to overwrite the HDT Highheel psc and pex there's also a request to overwrite:

qf_freeformfalkreathquest03_000b83c3.psc

October 23, 2014

I don't know if "deviously helpless" was a good mod for my character.

I mean sure it's immersive as all get-out, but I feel so...helpless.

No one owns my character so no one cares about them.

And I'd think my employer (master) would cover on-the-job mishaps, but no, she's a true republican, she wants me to pay Her.

So suppressing the urge to do a console command to lay waste to everyone and everything, I now owe a lot.

All Quests done except the dezra one, I hope I'm supposed to be notified or something, except now that I owe THEM for doing them a favor (plus, she never asks or mourns over dead couriers),

I think I'm ready to retire.

Edit:

Master has gone "round the bend" anyway, she's dressed as a gigantic mouse, tail and all.

Slick black catsuit, purple-something-with-tail.

and where is this "Captain"?

O nevermind (the last part anyway)

stroganof · October 23, 2014

im kinda stuck with erani,

sqv CDxDiaErani tells me stage 10, if i type

setstage CDxDiaErani 100 i get an error saying there is no stage 100.

Can i ignore this and setstage to 10 again or is something broken?

Btw, how does this quest progress? Is there a set amount of time that needs to pass while she is hanging around in my house in rifton, cleaning etc?

*Veladarius* · October 23, 2014

OK...so currently I have the following problems: I can't get new dates for Tavish (it is the global variable set to the wrong value), I don't see how I can change the variable, though.

I'm also stuck, apparently with an undroppable, invisible chastity belt, since my belt quest is going and going, Free Trial doesn't seem to remove the offending belt, and it seems like its the device hider, because that's the only thing I can find in my inventory with no name. I can wear a chastity belt and remove it without the quest completing.

Equip a belt then remove it (spawn a key if needed). I don't know why it happens but I have seen it on occasion as well but I think it is more that the quest is not ending properly instead of a belt being left in place.

Looking at the errors it seems like a number of properties are either missing or have been broken. Do the following for me and tell me if you see any of the properties on these quests show as none, specifically things like Global Variables or items or quests. Aliases or things like int or bool don't matter at this point.

sqv CDxExpQuest02

sqv CDxFreeTrial

sqv CDxFramework

If there are a few just give me some examples, if there are a lot then just tell me that.

I just tried the commands. I also tried sqv CDxExpQuest02 before and after the quest starter with the errors in it. I searched through all the lines looking for the word "none", but I only found a few instances.

In CDxExpQuest02:

::Player Ref_Var = None

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver' -> NONE

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver2' -> NONE

In CDxFreeTrial:

::Player Ref_Var = None

and I didn't see the word 'none' at all in CDxFramework.

Is there a way to copy console output as easily as a papyrus log file?

Oh, and there's an odd little occurrence that's likely unrelated but is kind of funny to me: Master seems to have a fondness for anal toys. Most of the time I talk to her she has beads or a fox tail hanging out. Possibly due to For The Masses?

This is the main thing I see wrong:

In CDxFreeTrial:

::Player Ref_Var = None

That is the property for the player so anything it tries to do on you it can't as it does not know who you are. Try resetting the quest in the MCM menu and see if that fixes it.

Vel

One other thing I forgot to mention when I was testing the bandits last night and I'm not sure you can do anything about in any case. On the new game where they work, on one of the tests after they attacked me and took the delivery, the Defeat Wildness event suddenly kicked and transported both my pc and the bandits into a wilderness location where the bandits then turned hostile and killed me.

May have just been a glitch, I've never had it happen before, I'll see if I can reproduce when the next update comes out. Do you want a log of it btw?

If you were beaten without killing any of them they get moved to a camp and will wait there for a day before leaving so you have a chance to get the delivery back. When Defeat kicked in it likely transported you with them but it ended up disrupting defeat and they went back to being hostile.

I just finished the new system for the bandits but have not started testing it to make sure it works. I ended up going with a set of bandits at each city instead of just moving one around but it required making some function sets for each group.

I just tested this again on v3.2 and I couldn't reproduce it so must have been a glitch, however I did find another small bug

After the scene fades out and fades back in, once I got rid of the armbinder and checked inventory there was a spare iron chastity belt, vaginal and anal plugs. This looks like the bandits were trying to fit them but couldn't because of the CD belt already in place so might be an idea to stop bandits trying to fit them.

Something else, in addition to asking to overwrite the HDT Highheel psc and pex there's also a request to overwrite:

qf_freeformfalkreathquest03_000b83c3.psc

I will remove the HDT high heel script, I think the custom boots probably triggered it being added to the archive.

As for the Freeform Falkreath script, that should overwrite the original as that is for the quest for Dengeir.

im kinda stuck with erani,

sqv CDxDiaErani tells me stage 10, if i type

setstage CDxDiaErani 100 i get an error saying there is no stage 100.

Can i ignore this and setstage to 10 again or is something broken?

Btw, how does this quest progress? Is there a set amount of time that needs to pass while she is hanging around in my house in rifton, cleaning etc?

Sorry, it is stage 900 that resets her quest.

Currently there is no other quest for Erani, her training and such will come later. Unless I decide otherwise, she is yours to use however as she is set up so she can be a follower.

*Veladarius* · October 23, 2014

Looking at the errors it seems like a number of properties are either missing or have been broken. Do the following for me and tell me if you see any of the properties on these quests show as none, specifically things like Global Variables or items or quests. Aliases or things like int or bool don't matter at this point.

sqv CDxExpQuest02

sqv CDxFreeTrial

sqv CDxFramework

If there are a few just give me some examples, if there are a lot then just tell me that.

I just tried the commands. I also tried sqv CDxExpQuest02 before and after the quest starter with the errors in it. I searched through all the lines looking for the word "none", but I only found a few instances.

In CDxExpQuest02:

::Player Ref_Var = None

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver' -> NONE

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver2' -> NONE

In CDxFreeTrial:

::Player Ref_Var = None

and I didn't see the word 'none' at all in CDxFramework.

Is there a way to copy console output as easily as a papyrus log file?

Oh, and there's an odd little occurrence that's likely unrelated but is kind of funny to me: Master seems to have a fondness for anal toys. Most of the time I talk to her she has beads or a fox tail hanging out. Possibly due to For The Masses?

The toys are from the Calyps sex toy addon, it adds some to her outfits.

Also:

In CDxExpQuest02:

::Player Ref_Var = None

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver' -> NONE

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver2' -> NONE

That is not good either, something killed the references to your character in both quests and resetting this one is more difficult. I usually have not had success in getting the Expansion quests to reset manually, resetquest may be able to do it though.

stroganof · October 23, 2014

wow that was quick, thanks veladarius.

And again, great mod

*Veladarius* · October 23, 2014

Hmm, seem to have found an odd bug appearing in multiple scenes. The bug is that every time I initiate a scene such as Assist a Customer, Free Trial, and any other scene where I'm taken control of and moved somewhere (or have my control taken away), it puts me on auto-pilot to run out the front door and stand out there in between dialog sentences. I can't move while out there (permanently stuck unless I reload), nor can I activate anything but the main menu for save/load etc.

I checked the conflicts and problems section, but I can't seem to find anything indicating something went wrong. I know that it was working fine before v3.0 and maybe even worked during v3.0 but v3.1 brought on this strange auto-pilot error. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the mod several times now (v3.2) to no avail.

Anyone have a fix for this?

The scenes have not changed between versions, is it happening in all of them or just specific ones? Also, can you show me where you are moving to? It may give me an idea of what may be causing it.

Khe · October 23, 2014

Nissa somehow isn't moving, she is standing with a static pose. Tessa is moving around as always, sometimes sitting somewhere etc..

I have updated first from 3.0 to 3.1 via patch download and then to 3.2 in my current game, so maybe she got stuck somehow this way.

And a tiny request: If you have devices on you and ask Nissa to remove them, could she answer with the price needed to remove them instead of just answering you can't afford it? Like "This would cost you 5000 gold, unfortunately you can't afford that".

Will take quite a while till i can try out the new quests, but i want to complement you for all the hard post release work you have done in the last days. Two patches and you answered most user questions and bug reports, this is better support than many game developers provide

if they get stuck in the tpose, disable and enable them...

October 23, 2014

Can we still wish for stuff, or is it set in stone?

Kinder-gentler Master, or whoever she farms my PC out to, once I graduate her little school.

More suits (Everyone else gets one, why shouldn't the player?

Getting a follower I can mistreat the way I was taught is illogical.

I'd like to free everyone (the new girl and Kara, anyway, hasn't Kara suffered enough??)

That's the non-technical stuff.

Technically, the Thalmor Embassy was having a Civil War when I got there, lots of sparks.

Once they killed the nice-looking people, they answered the gate.

OK I get I'm tied up, my voice still works.

I should be able to shout my attackers to oblivion ("Begone, ye nasties, have ye no shame?")

limonotu · October 23, 2014

Is there a special action to do during the Jarl Elisif reconsiders the offer or just wait with 'T' ? It seems I'm stuck, few weeks waited, many teleport to change the timer in another way than 'T', but she stills 'need more time to think about it'...

*Veladarius* · October 23, 2014

Is there a special action to do during the Jarl Elisif reconsiders the offer or just wait with 'T' ? It seems I'm stuck, few weeks waited, many teleport to change the timer in another way than 'T', but she stills 'need more time to think about it'...

You need to increase your speechcraft or your relationship rank with her by doing some quests for her. I am adding a modifier to increase the chances of it succeeding each time you return and fail.

Erdemic · October 23, 2014

Also:

In CDxExpQuest02:

::Player Ref_Var = None

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver' -> NONE

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver2' -> NONE

That is not good either, something killed the references to your character in both quests and resetting this one is more difficult. I usually have not had success in getting the Expansion quests to reset manually, resetquest may be able to do it though.

I just tried using the MCM menu to reset the Free Trial, and resetquest command to reset CDxExpQuest02, and then checked both using sqv again. No dice, didn't seem to fix it, PlayerRef_Var still showing as "None."

I dug up a far older save file, and used sqv on it, and was seeing a value for PlayerRef there though.

Sooooooooooo, it sounds like I boned myself somewhere, pretty bad. Guess I should be saving more often. Doesn't look like I can easily recover from this, not without losing a lot of time working back up. Oh well, I was thinking of starting a new character anyway. Thanks for your time and help though, I was never gonna figure this out on my own.

(Is there a console command I could use to instantly improve my disposition?)

justbob2 · October 23, 2014

If it's not too late for suggestions, I have a couple;

Once you become so submissive that the Master outfits you with semi-permanent devices, it seems you can no longer take advantage of the variety of 'Little Devils' plugs you created. I think it would be great if you could ask the Master for specific 'Little Devils' plugs. You could either purchase them, or maybe make the choice of plugs a reward for completing a particular quest? The Master could then equip them without having to release you. Perhaps a trigger could be added to have her ask you if you want to wear it if you buy one?

Also, there is a locked cabinet in the shop that contains some interesting potions (to increase submissiveness, etc.); with all the new NPC's you've added, maybe you could make one of them a vendor of such potions? Or, maybe the Master could sell them?

*Veladarius* · October 23, 2014

Also:

In CDxExpQuest02:

::Player Ref_Var = None

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver' -> NONE

REF 'ThalmorCarriageDriver2' -> NONE

That is not good either, something killed the references to your character in both quests and resetting this one is more difficult. I usually have not had success in getting the Expansion quests to reset manually, resetquest may be able to do it though.

I just tried using the MCM menu to reset the Free Trial, and resetquest command to reset CDxExpQuest02, and then checked both using sqv again. No dice, didn't seem to fix it, PlayerRef_Var still showing as "None."

I dug up a far older save file, and used sqv on it, and was seeing a value for PlayerRef there though.

Sooooooooooo, it sounds like I boned myself somewhere, pretty bad. Guess I should be saving more often. Doesn't look like I can easily recover from this, not without losing a lot of time working back up. Oh well, I was thinking of starting a new character anyway. Thanks for your time and help though, I was never gonna figure this out on my own.

(Is there a console command I could use to instantly improve my disposition?)

Set cdxplayerdisposition to x x should be between 1 (sub) and 20 (dom). Also, there are potions in one of the cabinets in the back corner of the shop by the stairs that will raise/lower it as well.

ItalianG62 · October 24, 2014

Ok so I'm having a couple issues. After taking on the making a delivery quest, I don't get a spot on my map for where I can make the delivery and when I do manage to find the person, there isn't an option for me to give it to them. Then when I go to the embassy and I get put into the Solar, I'm laying there hogtied with a bunch of random camera movements and don't seem to progress. (Then I went to go by stuff from the Master, she gives me the option to buy the letters that were supposed to be delivered to me. Not sure with that)

*Veladarius* · October 24, 2014

Ok so I'm having a couple issues. After taking on the making a delivery quest, I don't get a spot on my map for where I can make the delivery and when I do manage to find the person, there isn't an option for me to give it to them. Then when I go to the embassy and I get put into the Solar, I'm laying there hogtied with a bunch of random camera movements and don't seem to progress. (Then I went to go by stuff from the Master, she gives me the option to buy the letters that were supposed to be delivered to me. Not sure with that)

On the delivery, if you didn't get the quest marker then you probably dropped out of the dialogue, you should be able to speak with the Master and continue it.

On the Embassy, not sure what is going on there as I don't do anything with the camera. At most you would have the vanity camera circling you if you hadn't touched the controls.

On the letters, the courier quest is supposed to remove them from her inventory and give them to you.

ItalianG62 · October 24, 2014

Ok so I'm having a couple issues. After taking on the making a delivery quest, I don't get a spot on my map for where I can make the delivery and when I do manage to find the person, there isn't an option for me to give it to them. Then when I go to the embassy and I get put into the Solar, I'm laying there hogtied with a bunch of random camera movements and don't seem to progress. (Then I went to go by stuff from the Master, she gives me the option to buy the letters that were supposed to be delivered to me. Not sure with that)

On the delivery, if you didn't get the quest marker then you probably dropped out of the dialogue, you should be able to speak with the Master and continue it.

On the Embassy, not sure what is going on there as I don't do anything with the camera. At most you would have the vanity camera circling you if you hadn't touched the controls.

On the letters, the courier quest is supposed to remove them from her inventory and give them to you.

It shows up in my quest list as that I have to make a delivery for the shop but doesn't say where and to who.

What happens is that it starts circling around and I go between being hogtied and then masturbating. All of a sudden while hogtied, I start to slide across the floor and then get stuck trying to go up the stairs.

I figured that was something that was my fault but it still triggered the events just fine.

*Veladarius* · October 24, 2014

Ok so I'm having a couple issues. After taking on the making a delivery quest, I don't get a spot on my map for where I can make the delivery and when I do manage to find the person, there isn't an option for me to give it to them. Then when I go to the embassy and I get put into the Solar, I'm laying there hogtied with a bunch of random camera movements and don't seem to progress. (Then I went to go by stuff from the Master, she gives me the option to buy the letters that were supposed to be delivered to me. Not sure with that)

On the delivery, if you didn't get the quest marker then you probably dropped out of the dialogue, you should be able to speak with the Master and continue it.

On the Embassy, not sure what is going on there as I don't do anything with the camera. At most you would have the vanity camera circling you if you hadn't touched the controls.

On the letters, the courier quest is supposed to remove them from her inventory and give them to you.

It shows up in my quest list as that I have to make a delivery for the shop but doesn't say where and to who.

What happens is that it starts circling around and I go between being hogtied and then masturbating. All of a sudden while hogtied, I start to slide across the floor and then get stuck trying to go up the stairs.

I figured that was something that was my fault but it still triggered the events just fine.

On the delivery quest, check the global that tells what customer it is going to: help cdxPDCustNo it should be 1 - 18

Also, check that you have the delivery, if you don't then they won't talk about it.

You should have appeared in Elenwen's room not downstairs, the sex scene is triggering as normal then you are supposed to move over to her. For whatever reason you are appearing in the wrong location.

*Veladarius* · October 24, 2014

Well, the new bandit setup looks to be working properly but I am going to test it a few more times to see if it continues to work right. The way I had to do it was a real pain in the ass as I replaced 6 properties and about 40 lines of script with 114 properties and 800 lines of script.

ItalianG62 · October 24, 2014

Ok so I'm having a couple issues. After taking on the making a delivery quest, I don't get a spot on my map for where I can make the delivery and when I do manage to find the person, there isn't an option for me to give it to them. Then when I go to the embassy and I get put into the Solar, I'm laying there hogtied with a bunch of random camera movements and don't seem to progress. (Then I went to go by stuff from the Master, she gives me the option to buy the letters that were supposed to be delivered to me. Not sure with that)

On the delivery, if you didn't get the quest marker then you probably dropped out of the dialogue, you should be able to speak with the Master and continue it.

On the Embassy, not sure what is going on there as I don't do anything with the camera. At most you would have the vanity camera circling you if you hadn't touched the controls.

On the letters, the courier quest is supposed to remove them from her inventory and give them to you.

It shows up in my quest list as that I have to make a delivery for the shop but doesn't say where and to who.

What happens is that it starts circling around and I go between being hogtied and then masturbating. All of a sudden while hogtied, I start to slide across the floor and then get stuck trying to go up the stairs.

I figured that was something that was my fault but it still triggered the events just fine.

On the delivery quest, check the global that tells what customer it is going to: help cdxPDCustNo it should be 1 - 18

Also, check that you have the delivery, if you don't then they won't talk about it.

You should have appeared in Elenwen's room not downstairs, the sex scene is triggering as normal then you are supposed to move over to her. For whatever reason you are appearing in the wrong location.

I'll have to check that later since I picked up a delivery retrieval quest.

Oh boy that's obnoxious haha, would you think that a mod conflict would cause something like that? At least I feel a bit better that its doing what its supposed to but jus tin the wrong location.

*Veladarius* · October 24, 2014

Ok so I'm having a couple issues. After taking on the making a delivery quest, I don't get a spot on my map for where I can make the delivery and when I do manage to find the person, there isn't an option for me to give it to them. Then when I go to the embassy and I get put into the Solar, I'm laying there hogtied with a bunch of random camera movements and don't seem to progress. (Then I went to go by stuff from the Master, she gives me the option to buy the letters that were supposed to be delivered to me. Not sure with that)

On the delivery, if you didn't get the quest marker then you probably dropped out of the dialogue, you should be able to speak with the Master and continue it.

On the Embassy, not sure what is going on there as I don't do anything with the camera. At most you would have the vanity camera circling you if you hadn't touched the controls.

On the letters, the courier quest is supposed to remove them from her inventory and give them to you.

It shows up in my quest list as that I have to make a delivery for the shop but doesn't say where and to who.

What happens is that it starts circling around and I go between being hogtied and then masturbating. All of a sudden while hogtied, I start to slide across the floor and then get stuck trying to go up the stairs.

I figured that was something that was my fault but it still triggered the events just fine.

On the delivery quest, check the global that tells what customer it is going to: help cdxPDCustNo it should be 1 - 18

Also, check that you have the delivery, if you don't then they won't talk about it.

You should have appeared in Elenwen's room not downstairs, the sex scene is triggering as normal then you are supposed to move over to her. For whatever reason you are appearing in the wrong location.

I'll have to check that later since I picked up a delivery retrieval quest.

Oh boy that's obnoxious haha, would you think that a mod conflict would cause something like that? At least I feel a bit better that its doing what its supposed to but jus tin the wrong location.

There should not be a conflict with any mods, the interiors I used for the Embassy are all copies and had any references to other quests and such removed. Where are you appearing exactly?

Verstort · October 24, 2014

3.2 Bypass request and questions

Working on a new sub character, since old sub has game breaking bugs and last character was dom

spoilers:

For the purpose of testing, is there a way to skip quest two? I want to test some stuff after the quest, but 5 hours is my limit. 5 hours I tried to do this quest but the game keeps crashing or the characters stop moving, and the furthest save I have is the first night in the cell. I can't make it past the guards, even with quick save. I only once made it to the guard party, then CTD (probably sexlab, but I didn't save in time is the point)

This happened the first time I played through the expansion but not to this level, every quick save I make is either volatile, being unstable and not allow me to continue no matter how many times I try, or the game crashes/hangs at every sexlab scene between every conversation.

I notice a pattern, maybe irrelevant: the blindfold effect re-triggers even in 3rd person mode if the gag is switched out for oral sex (plugged gag -> plug removed gag), is this because the items are being re-added to the character because it detects the wrong gag as a gag missing?

All required mods are up to date, even fusrodah.

I tried bypassing the quest at the letter stage with setstage, but the buildings didn't update, so I assume one of the quest stages starts the script to change/build the mansion? I haven't found it yet, if it's one of the ~50 stages in that quest.

Lesser questions:

When you finish with the first exp quest, and she asks you what kind of reward you want, the only option I get is gold. Was there supposed to be other options there, like if you were submissive enough or already wearing trial items she would give you items to wear or a scene or something? I feel like there was a missing opportunity there.

When you finish a delivery quest early, and you get a tip from the customer, you return and she responds with "Well done, here's a little something extra" and gives you gold. Were there other endings planned here? I really need to test with the trial belt and debt belts in more detail ... me making connections where they shouldn't be

Is there a fail condition for exp quest 1 that I haven't found?

All of the beds in the cell under the shop seem to be owned, but there are only 3 display slaves and 7 beds? did you make the owned by a faction or something?

After a 10,000 gold punishment, master says "I have work for you when you are ready" but with the expansion, you gave those two quests cooldowns right? Maybe the dialog should change if the jobs are all on cooldown, or the jobs should become available again?

During the freetrial scene, the submissive options don't seem to affect playerdisposiiton, intended?

DevotedGynoid · October 24, 2014

I'm running through this mod's story a second time, and I keep running into the same issue. I can go to the Jarl/Elisif/etc, and do the expansion quests (CDxExpQuestXX), but the scenes don't progress at all, and I have to manually use the setstage command to move through each stage.

The first playthrough, I did completequest CDxExpQuest01, but everytime I would be animated in any scene afterwards (looking at you Embassy gate), I'd immediately try to travel back to Falkreath, walking the entire distance. What am I missing here?

BTW, I let an entire run go and walk back to Falkreath from the Embassy (that's a long walk, btw), and when she got to the Jarl's Longhouse, she just stood there, not doing anything.

On my current playthrough, I'm just standing around, with nothing happening after I've given Siddegir the package, and he's removed an item. When I do "getstage CDxExpQuest01", it returns 200, and I let it sit for an hour, and nothing happened, just standing there.

I'd like to experience this mod without having to resort to console commands. I do use Death Alternative, Sanguine's Debauchery+, SexLab/Aroused/Hormones, Deviously Helpless, and DD Cursed Loot, are one of them possibly interfering?

Other than that, this is a fun mod, and I can't wait for the updates.d

Verstort · October 24, 2014

3.2 Moderate bug: Tavish never shows up, and no punishment for missing either

I think someone else already mentioned this bug, just adding mine to the feedback

journal says show up on the 10th of the month

on the 10, arrow over master's head but no Tavish, and master has no dialog for this quest, just normal master dialog

CDxAssistCustStartMonth = 9

CDxAssistCustStartTime = 1 (should be 10 right?)

CDxCustomerAssit01 states set are 5 and 10. 0 and 20+ are all unset

setting 20 makes her think I missed the window

Resetting the quest from the start sets the 5 state, but not the 0 state, talking to master to get the quest sets the 10 state

Going back to before reset, changing starttime to 10 outside of the shop, does not make him apear, and then waiting 24 hours does not master angry.

reverted save back to the 9th, set starttime to 10, and still nothing, so I'm assuming the quest needs to be at a different state ...

This is on a character that had 3.1 installed first, then 3.2 installed in its place, might try clearing the cd scripts form the same tomorrow ..

Final edit: just realized I didn't check if the month was accurate, might check that tomorrow

mendalion · October 24, 2014

Is there a special action to do during the Jarl Elisif reconsiders the offer or just wait with 'T' ? It seems I'm stuck, few weeks waited, many teleport to change the timer in another way than 'T', but she stills 'need more time to think about it'...

You need to increase your speechcraft or your relationship rank with her by doing some quests for her. I am adding a modifier to increase the chances of it succeeding each time you return and fail.

You may not do it, and its probably not necessary to use your time for it, but when I played this quest I thought it would be best to add some miniquest to change her mind: for example to bring her some wine to ease her mind and maybe put a light drug to increase the chances (just an example).

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