Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

[thomastm]

the punishment outside the shop wont work, after the bodyguard wanna put my pc in the cage my pc wont go in. and there a lot of ctd when entering the shop & starting\ending a quest. do i need to turn off some setting that i didnt? 

[Veladarius]

the punishment outside the shop wont work, after the bodyguard wanna put my pc in the cage my pc wont go in. and there a lot of ctd when entering the shop & starting\ending a quest. do i need to turn off some setting that i didnt? 

 

If you are having crashes in the shop then you likely have a number of errors occurring in scripts that are running. Except during scenes I don't have scripts running other than the standard Integration scripts on items. Check your papyrus log or post it here.

[Verstort]

the punishment outside the shop wont work, after the bodyguard wanna put my pc in the cage my pc wont go in.

 

You tried the quicksave + quickload trick that sometimes frees up stuck characters?

 

Did you also try it with a new character/new game?

 

You can test it quickly with new character, open console -> "COC CapturedDreamsShop" to get back to the shop quickly.

 

For failed delivery punishment all you have to do is accept the retrieval quest and turn around and tell her it was too hard, she won't like that.

 

If it works with new game than something could be corrupted with your save, or DD items might be glitching, and it might not even be a part of CD+DD that's causing it.

[uglykidcid]

This mod would be amazing with some voice volunteers.  It already amazing but that would be more amazing.

[Emerain]

 

*snip*

 

I will get it updated. I thought I had copied the original open belt when I made it so it would have the keywords on them.

 

 

Awesome!  I love the mod, I just noticed that and it made me go 'hmm'.

[aqqh]

This mod would be amazing with some voice volunteers.  It already amazing but that would be more amazing.

man have you seen how many new NPCs there would be?

honestly when i check that new areas it did made me go "wow".

 

Sure it would be nice with voice acted dialogues. but where to get 20 of voice actors, half of them female - and some of those females would have to voice aloooooot of lines (master or rayani i presume).

So it would be cool but i guess its unreal.

[Veladarius]

 

This mod would be amazing with some voice volunteers.  It already amazing but that would be more amazing.

man have you seen how many new NPCs there would be?

honestly when i check that new areas it did made me go "wow".

 

Sure it would be nice with voice acted dialogues. but where to get 20 of voice actors, half of them female - and some of those females would have to voice aloooooot of lines (master or rayani i presume).

So it would be cool but i guess its unreal.

 

 

With the new scenes I am building and new areas, I have copied the Thalmor embassy building interiors for the scene I am working on now. For this I have 12 npc's, about half are guards but have a good bit of dialogue to them. I think that brings the total number of npc's to 60 and I expect to add a few more by the time I am ready to release.

 

Yes, 60 npc's and that doesn't even count the dead couriers. The esp file has passed 2mb in size as well.

[Rapshiko]

 

 

 

 

One one hand, I feel there should be a way to "not know" about the next modeling session, because... well, there is other stuff happening in Skyrim that might be calling the Dragonwhore away.

On the other hand, obedience is the whole point of submission. If you can't pay attention to Master's wishes without distractions for a while, you don't deserve to be her slave..

 

While I agree with you, being at the shop every ten days is not exactly my idea of fun.

And I could make the argument that a player desiring a submissive character shouldn't directly require him to constantly submit to the same cutscene (for that is what it is) over and over.

The "optimal" (=that pleases as many people as possible) solution would, I suppose, be to have an mcm toggle for it.

Failing that, the presence of the dialog line would (in my opinion) be better than it's absence, because players who don't want to use it can simply not click it, while players who do can't click it if it isn't there.

 

Of course, that's all my opinions, and you're free to agree or disagree as you like.

 

-Edit- Godgers, did you disable the mod, or simply reset it?

Try disabling it if you haven't. It should correct the issue.

 

 

I can put in some options for the quest in the MCM menu to control the frequency or to enable/disable it.

 

 

 

That would be a good solution. I was thinking, though, if the assist a customer event is going to be similar in the future perhaps another method could be used. Presently, from my understanding, Tavish events begin to happen only if you are submissive and in debt. If the player doesn't want to be there for the next visit then maybe there could be a large dialogue where the player is challenged (either by their choices in the dialogue or just a stat (Speech?) based opposition to the Master with factors like debt, current relationship, and current submissive status) in order to get out of it. Results and methods used could influence the relationship with the Master (probably negatively if at all) and maybe earn the player some dominance or reinforce their submissiveness should they fail.

[Hideyoshi]

 

This mod would be amazing with some voice volunteers.  It already amazing but that would be more amazing.

man have you seen how many new NPCs there would be?

honestly when i check that new areas it did made me go "wow".

 

Sure it would be nice with voice acted dialogues. but where to get 20 of voice actors, half of them female - and some of those females would have to voice aloooooot of lines (master or rayani i presume).

So it would be cool but i guess its unreal.

 

 

Getting the voice actors wouldn't be all that difficult, actually... there exist plenty out there who will do dialog that's present in the mod as it stands. Relatively speaking the dialog in this mod isn't anywhere near as sexually explicit as some other mods which currently have voice actors.

[Vaelorian]

Presently, from my understanding, Tavish events begin to happen only if you are submissive and in debt.

Debt has nothing to do with it; none of my characters are (or were) ever in debt at any point (because that's simply not how I play), and yet the quest triggers regardless. I'm not sure if being dominant affects it, but can say that it will trigger even if your character is dominant. In my game, it appears to trigger after anywhere between one and three successful errands for the master.

[Sentrychaos]

I believe this may be incompatible with B3lisario's UNPB BBP pregnant body from the Estrus Chaurus mod, as whenever I enter the shop the game crashes, nor can I load a save from inside the shop, but everywhere else is perfectly fine.

 

I tested this multiple times without any new mods except that (it was a new install and prior everything worked) and every single time upon attempting to load into the shop from save or transition resulted in a CTD.

[Veladarius]

 

Presently, from my understanding, Tavish events begin to happen only if you are submissive and in debt.

Debt has nothing to do with it; none of my characters are (or were) ever in debt at any point (because that's simply not how I play), and yet the quest triggers regardless. I'm not sure if being dominant affects it, but can say that it will trigger even if your character is dominant. In my game, it appears to trigger after anywhere between one and three successful errands for the master.

 

 

The Tavish event is triggered the first time if you are submissive and the Master likes you (disposition of 7 or less and Rank with Master of 13 and up). Once it starts though it is on a regular basis and there are some dialogue changes to reflect the differences.

[Vaelorian]

That's quite weird; I had it start (for the first time on that save) on a dominant character (capable of purchasing keys). That was with version 2.76 I believe.

[Mondaiji]

That's quite weird; I had it start (for the first time on that save) on a dominant character (capable of purchasing keys). That was with version 2.76 I believe.

 

I have now 25 jobs done for the master are in good standing and dominant, i did this over many weeks in gametime and the event wont trigger for me. Damn would be nice if there was a dominant event .

[aqqh]

 

That's quite weird; I had it start (for the first time on that save) on a dominant character (capable of purchasing keys). That was with version 2.76 I believe.

 

I have now 25 jobs done for the master are in good standing and dominant, i did this over many weeks in gametime and the event wont trigger for me. Damn would be nice if there was a dominant event .

 

First thing that comes to mind is a quest to find a suitable female, train her and make her assist Tavish.

By train i mean you would have to make her accustomed to each type of devices and during show she would be choosing those shes most familiar with, and refuse those she is not.

Then evaluation as normal. Tho i guess option "shes is not ready yet" would be needed when master would request her participation. Could be made that you would have take her place yourself then (with penalty to your dominant standing?).

 

Guess such quest would have to come bit later than on sub side - as that girl would be your very first slave. Or maybe there would be an option to make her your slave once she would successfully pass customer assist?

[Veladarius]

 

 

That's quite weird; I had it start (for the first time on that save) on a dominant character (capable of purchasing keys). That was with version 2.76 I believe.

 

I have now 25 jobs done for the master are in good standing and dominant, i did this over many weeks in gametime and the event wont trigger for me. Damn would be nice if there was a dominant event .

 

First thing that comes to mind is a quest to find a suitable female, train her and make her assist Tavish.

By train i mean you would have to make her accustomed to each type of devices and during show she would be choosing those shes most familiar with, and refuse those she is not.

Then evaluation as normal. Tho i guess option "shes is not ready yet" would be needed when master would request her participation. Could be made that you would have take her place yourself then (with penalty to your dominant standing?).

 

Guess such quest would have to come bit later than on sub side - as that girl would be your very first slave. Or maybe there would be an option to make her your slave once she would successfully pass customer assist?

 

 

I am looking to do a Slave Training quest but it is somewhat more difficult than most to do. The AI of the slave will take a good bit of work so that it starts off doing things wrong but get corrected over time if the player catches it. It could actually follow another quest that is one of the 4 expansion quests I am building as well as some other things I intend to add.

[aqqh]

Well, not saying to make that happen now - you do have alot on your hands.

 

For now some more dominant like dialogue options could do for dom characters. Like you refuse to be chained or you demand some extra reward in return for your cooperation.

An option to refuse to wear pieces slave choses for you. That would make Tavish angry - but hell, why should you care 

 

Could be done that master approaches you with request that her important customer is coming and she does not have any suitable "showgirl".

That could lead to whole dialogue of "convince me".

[rypley]

do you create a pemanent link between the master and the player character (if it is submitted) much like the mod slaverun must pay back every week ?

[Veladarius]

I had ideas for several things, features I was looking to put in and various quests but I just had an idea that linked them all together. Depending on how hard the training is to set up will determine on if I can get it into the expansion release or not. It would require doing some things with AI and markers that I have not done before.

 

If it works you would be able to take slaves (typically followers or spouse) and make them your slave. You would have to train them (tell them what to do where in your home) and correct them when they are doing something wrong. Once you think they have been trained the Master will test them, if you fail you get punished, otherwise you have a nice new slave. I have a specific quest where you would get your first and after that you can use whoever. I would have to set up a number of aliases as slots for each slave so I can control their AI easier.

[Veladarius]

do you create a pemanent link between the master and the player character (if it is submitted) much like the mod slaverun must pay back every week ?

 

I have not looked at it yet so I am not sure how it has been set up.

 

Once the enslavement is set up you will have to do various things to improve your standing in the household which will determine what things you may be required to do and where you sleep.

[fred200]

With all these new quests - please keep an uninstall option in mind.

This is a mod I tend to use long term. and starting over without it is really not practical.

Clean shutdown of Quests and references through MCM is great.

SaveTool.exe is actually great for finding hanging scripts and references.

If I have not said it yet today - thanks for a great mod and your plans for the future!

 

[CliftonJD]

 

This mod would be amazing with some voice volunteers.  It already amazing but that would be more amazing.

man have you seen how many new NPCs there would be?

honestly when i check that new areas it did made me go "wow".

 

Sure it would be nice with voice acted dialogues. but where to get 20 of voice actors, half of them female - and some of those females would have to voice aloooooot of lines (master or rayani i presume).

So it would be cool but i guess its unreal.

 

seen a number of times where skyrim has re-used voices of other skyrim characters to fill the void, common is the voice of the wife

 

I believe this may be incompatible with B3lisario's UNPB BBP pregnant body from the Estrus Chaurus mod, as whenever I enter the shop the game crashes, nor can I load a save from inside the shop, but everywhere else is perfectly fine.

 

I tested this multiple times without any new mods except that (it was a new install and prior everything worked) and every single time upon attempting to load into the shop from save or transition resulted in a CTD.

check papyrus or post the log here, a well-known issue with the estrus mod is estrusutil.dll giving papyrus bugs, allso note there's a setting in either estrus or estrus chaurus for cbe body you'll need to look for on a unpb body, or possible solution is to use the estruschaurus repack here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30871-estrus-chaurus/page-9?do=findComment&comment=879338

[Veladarius]

 

 

This mod would be amazing with some voice volunteers.  It already amazing but that would be more amazing.

man have you seen how many new NPCs there would be?

honestly when i check that new areas it did made me go "wow".

 

Sure it would be nice with voice acted dialogues. but where to get 20 of voice actors, half of them female - and some of those females would have to voice aloooooot of lines (master or rayani i presume).

So it would be cool but i guess its unreal.

 

seen a number of times where skyrim has re-used voices of other skyrim characters to fill the void, common is the voice of the wife

 

I believe this may be incompatible with B3lisario's UNPB BBP pregnant body from the Estrus Chaurus mod, as whenever I enter the shop the game crashes, nor can I load a save from inside the shop, but everywhere else is perfectly fine.

 

I tested this multiple times without any new mods except that (it was a new install and prior everything worked) and every single time upon attempting to load into the shop from save or transition resulted in a CTD.

check papyrus or post the log here, a well-known issue with the estrus mod is estrusutil.dll giving papyrus bugs, allso note there's a setting in either estrus or estrus chaurus for cbe body you'll need to look for on a unpb body, or possible solution is to use the estruschaurus repack here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30871-estrus-chaurus/page-9?do=findComment&comment=879338

 

 

I use that body, that isn't it, also, I don't use any custom bodies or skeletons in the mod as it uses whatever you have installed. There is a lot of things going on with Integration when you enter the shop or load a save from there. All the actors items are equipping on them so you have 6 actors with 4-8 items each being equipped by Integration. Errors in papyrus can cause issues when a number of devices are being equipped at once and if overloaded can cause problems. A clean script environment (minimal issues, none that are constant) can easily handle what is in the shop as I had twice the number of npc's in there originally and I didn't have any issues but some others did.

[Sentrychaos]

 

I use that body, that isn't it, also, I don't use any custom bodies or skeletons in the mod as it uses whatever you have installed. There is a lot of things going on with Integration when you enter the shop or load a save from there. All the actors items are equipping on them so you have 6 actors with 4-8 items each being equipped by Integration. Errors in papyrus can cause issues when a number of devices are being equipped at once and if overloaded can cause problems. A clean script environment (minimal issues, none that are constant) can easily handle what is in the shop as I had twice the number of npc's in there originally and I didn't have any issues but some others did.

Should give it a try with a new game, only the minimum requirements, load it up and go to the shop to see if it doesn't automatically CTD?

 

 

 

I believe this may be incompatible with B3lisario's UNPB BBP pregnant body from the Estrus Chaurus mod, as whenever I enter the shop the game crashes, nor can I load a save from inside the shop, but everywhere else is perfectly fine.

 

I tested this multiple times without any new mods except that (it was a new install and prior everything worked) and every single time upon attempting to load into the shop from save or transition resulted in a CTD.

check papyrus or post the log here, a well-known issue with the estrus mod is estrusutil.dll giving papyrus bugs, allso note there's a setting in either estrus or estrus chaurus for cbe body you'll need to look for on a unpb body, or possible solution is to use the estruschaurus repack here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30871-estrus-chaurus/page-9?do=findComment&comment=879338

 

I don't use the entire Estrus mod, only the body from chaurus, so it's not an issue with estrus itself because it's not even present

[been4you]

How do you activate these kind of idles?

 

Does items that u can buy in the shop provide an easy access?