Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[killer905]

4 hours ago, Asphodelium said:

 

I see, personally, I don't really think there is a physiological problem for an Ass to... accomodate something that can enter a Vagina (especially in an adult oriented creature mod in a fantasy setting scenario), you wouldn't believe how stretchy an ass can be.

 

I would be happy with a mini patch to make Tirwin Male (and maybe other people would enjoy it too), but I understand what you said about having to adapt everything else around that to make it make sense (it would need extensive work to update the dialogues and dynamics of some of the quests etc.)

Thank you for answering, Gristle and you are doing a very good job with this ❤️

We see but for now we have other things do to. Or maybe anyone else wanted create Male Tirwin patch go ahed and make.

1 hour ago, pinky6225 said:

Played through the barrow with Tharsten and the pick up of the book/quest advanced fine, as we was leaving the tunnel though Tirwin asked if we should stay and help Tharsten or leave now and i went with the option to stay and help Tharsten but then Tirwin ran up to Tharsten and did a dialogue about how he should leave with us now which sounds like it should have triggered if i'd picked the other option to leave now with Tirwin rather than stay and help Tharsten

 

Tail end of the dialogue was

 

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Definitely a bug. This scene in case of further help for Tharsten should start at the last chamber after defeating the dragon priest.

[leking]

On 2/22/2025 at 7:30 AM, killer905 said:

Currently, 16 of the 42 planned creatures are available. So some content to be added.

 

There is a plan for another custom follower, but it is currently in a drawer.

 

42 creatures seems a lot to me. I know that is the point of this mod and i love it but i think after lets says 20 creatures or even now the improvement should be more about tyrwin interacting/reacting with the world around her or optionals events / quest that could be done aside from her researches.

 

The more small dialogues reactions and comments she gets the more she feel alive.

 

The more side activities the mod gets the more it feel complete and immersive.

 

I already love all the litlle additions since the last update anb looking forward to the next 😎

[Gristle]

13 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Played through the barrow with Tharsten and the pick up of the book/quest advanced fine, as we was leaving the tunnel though Tirwin asked if we should stay and help Tharsten or leave now and i went with the option to stay and help Tharsten but then Tirwin ran up to Tharsten and did a dialogue about how he should leave with us now which sounds like it should have triggered if i'd picked the other option to leave now with Tirwin rather than stay and help Tharsten

 

Tail end of the dialogue was

 

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Thanks for the note. Quite a mysterious bug. I just checked five times and that scene is only attached to the dialogue where you choose to not help. And yet, as you say, it is nonetheless triggered by both choices. I'll have to dig into this further. In the meantime, just keep playing. The quest advances to the same next stage no matter which option you choose.

[eflat01]

16 hours ago, Gristle said:

Thanks for the note. Quite a mysterious bug. I just checked five times and that scene is only attached to the dialogue where you choose to not help. And yet, as you say, it is nonetheless triggered by both choices. I'll have to dig into this further. In the meantime, just keep playing. The quest advances to the same next stage no matter which option you choose.

 

Is something I couldn't test because I did the vanilla dragonborn quest prior... He was just hanging around the dragon priests chamber for me and his dialog played  through fine.

 

I will say, and it's not your bug - least I think not. I had respawn at White Ridge Barrow when we went there, including Merilar Rendas (who was killed long ago), thought to myself just how many times will I have to kill that dunmer?😉 

Edited February 25, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

Is something I couldn't test because I did the vanilla dragonborn quest prior... He was just hanging around the dragon priests chamber for me and his dialog played  through fine.

 

I will say, and it's not your bug - least I think not. I had respawn at White Ridge Barrow when we went there, including Merilar Rendas (who was killed long ago), thought to myself just how many times will I have to kill that dunmer?😉 

Merilar Rendas comes to life as White Ridge Barrow is reset to a state before PC was even in the location. Consider that she had a twin sister ^^

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, killer905 said:

Merilar Rendas comes to life as White Ridge Barrow is reset to a state before PC was even in the location. Consider that she had a twin sister ^^

I didn't realize she was a named PC. I can kill her off after resetting the dungeon if the quest has previously been completed. Twin sister also works.

[killer905]

4 hours ago, Gristle said:

I didn't realize she was a named PC. I can kill her off after resetting the dungeon if the quest has previously been completed. Twin sister also works.

As for me, it can die twice :3

[eflat01]

6 hours ago, Gristle said:

I didn't realize she was a named PC. I can kill her off after resetting the dungeon if the quest has previously been completed. Twin sister also works.

 

Lol, I didn't know you were resetting it... I assumed the dlc reset it? I know the ores in it reset normally and likely some spiders do. 

 

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

As for me, it can die twice :3

 

Fine by me, killing two of them means more flame spider scrolls. Their brother Servos is the dead dude she locked in the cage with the imburing chamber.

 

Their  journals explain what's going on with their experiments and kind of hint why she's a crazy bitch - She hears voices (most likely Hemora's) coming the dragon priest Dukaan's chamber beyond where the Sallow Regent black book is. That's driving her insane. 

 

At high level she actually is pretty tough unless you can close the distance with her quickly. She's a destruction mage who constantly spams aoe spells - mostly fire spells -  levels with the PC and has no level cap though I think her health does cap at about mid 700 or somewhere about? She was beating the crap out of the little elf girl, and I had to spam heals on Tirwin until I could get the PC between them to get a shout off and pounce on her... Ragnar being cyclone'd on the other side of the chamber with her.

 

Reminds me I think I'm going to uncap Tirwin. 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

41 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Lol, I didn't know you were resetting it... I assumed the dlc reset it? I know the ores in it reset normally and likely some spiders do. 

 

White Ridge Barrow is marked ‘no respawn’, which means that enemies will not reappear there, but there may be exceptions to this rule. Ore will respawn.

[killer905]

12 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Fine by me, killing two of them means more flame spider scrolls. Their brother Servos is the dead dude she locked in the cage with the imburing chamber.

 

Their  journals explain what's going on with their experiments and kind of hint why she's a crazy bitch - She hears voices (most likely Hemora's) coming the dragon priest Dukaan's chamber beyond where the Sallow Regent black book is. That's driving her insane. 

 

At high level she actually is pretty tough unless you can close the distance with her quickly. She's a destruction mage who constantly spams aoe spells - mostly fire spells -  levels with the PC and has no level cap though I think her health does cap at about mid 700 or somewhere about? She was beating the crap out of the little elf girl, and I had to spam heals on Tirwin until I could get the PC between them to get a shout off and pounce on her... Ragnar being cyclone'd on the other side of the chamber with her.

 

Reminds me I think I'm going to uncap Tirwin. 

 

 

Cool story bro

[Azauara]

Anyone having issues with Sexlab finding the animations for certain creatures in the newest update?

 

I downloaded Netch Animations specifically for the update and after installing them the console still kept showing Sexlab erroring at not being able to find animations for the Bull Netch. I ended up using the set stage command to move that quest forward. But I am now at the Ash Guardian quest and am having the same issue despite having the animations for the Ash Guardians (Storm Atronach) installed the whole time I've been playing. Console shows the same error of Sexlab not finding compatible animations for the Ash Guardian.

 

Anyone see this or know how to fix? Would rather not have to skip another scene of one of the quests with console commands.

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, Azauara said:

Anyone having issues with Sexlab finding the animations for certain creatures in the newest update?

 

I downloaded Netch Animations specifically for the update and after installing them the console still kept showing Sexlab erroring at not being able to find animations for the Bull Netch. I ended up using the set stage command to move that quest forward. But I am now at the Ash Guardian quest and am having the same issue despite having the animations for the Ash Guardians (Storm Atronach) installed the whole time I've been playing. Console shows the same error of Sexlab not finding compatible animations for the Ash Guardian.

 

Anyone see this or know how to fix? Would rather not have to skip another scene of one of the quests with console commands.

The only thing I can think of is to check that "Match Creature Genders" in the Sexlab MCM is turned off. One of the Netch that comes to shore is a Betty Netch, so Sexlab could be rejecting it because it's female. Shouldn't affect the Storm Atronach though. No tags are being required for these particular animations, so any animation you have for the race should work.

 

Also, of course, check and make sure your new animations are actually enabled in SLAL or the relevant program.

[eflat01]

4 hours ago, morgan502 said:

I had to skip the Netch scenes because for some reason creature framework has no option for them??

 

The animation set mine is picking up is from "More Nasty Critters" the race is : "creature_race": "Netches",

 

 https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5464-more-nasty-critters-special-edition/

 

All your SL Loader animation SLAL packs should add in the files in Data/SLAnims/json directory... is just easier for me to find the animations I have in those json files rather than scrolling through the SL McM. The json files are used to add them into SL via the Loader. On the SL Loader McM make sure to load and register them into SexLab. 

 

Edited February 26, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

Updated to-do list (27-02-2025):

 

After talking to Gristle, some things will not be considered and others have some chance of being added. In some cases there will be notes giving the reason.

 

To do List for next update from roadmap:
- New quets
- New system (Again?)

 

Suggestions considered:

- Give Tirwin quest and location commentary from quests Vanillia 

NOTE: We could use dialogue suggestions from you ❤️ It could be dialogue from any quest from Vanilia and the DLC (not being from the AE version).

 

- Asking Angi to have sex Sacbre Cat with her, PC or Tirwin again after quest
- Asking Ria to have sex with Bear again, PC or Tirwin again after quest
- Asking Kaydi to have sex with warebear again, PC or Tirwin again after quest

- Revisit Rieklings and have sex with them

- Walking naked outside cities for Tirwin

NOTE: In the cities themselves, she'll be walking around in clothes anyway

 

Possible suggestions:

NOTE: (These are suggestions taken into account, but there are some reasons not to add)

- Adding a dialogue option for Ri'saad to have sex with Tirwin 

- Marrying Tirwin

- Male Tirwin

NOTE: Need a lot work.

 

Rejected (at least for the moment) suggestions:

- Give Tirwin feature where animal types she's sexed once are no longer hostile if she's in your party and will instead attempt to gangbang her leaving you to deal with any men or mer or other monsters.

NOTE: Rejected for the moment due to the fact that this could lead to strange situations in dungeons if it were automatic.

- Ria as follower can call Olaf to help in adventures
NOTE: Rejected for the moment on the reason that Tirwin and Ragnar are a powerful team, but we don't always go with them, do we?

- Conversations/banter between Tirwin and other followers (Vanilia)
NOTE: Rejected due to the fact that there are about 60 followers in the game, and this would mean a lot of work to get everyone to dialogue with Tirwin.

 

- BDSM/Slave/Humiliating clothing for Tirwin
- Slavetats

- Adding Riding Styles 2 as part of the mod for Animal Research (Permissions allow for this)

NOTE: This mod is quite buggy and is no longer supported by the developer.

 

- Tirwin having sex with friendly animals after completing a quest related to them
- Collection of sperm during each animal intercourse by PC and Tirwin (Use for selling, alchemy and food)

NOTE: Unfortunately a lot of work and there is a mod called Fill Her Up doing something similar.

- Ostim patch

NOTE: Not support creature animations

 

Edited February 28, 2025 by killer905

[shuvals]

Please advise. During the quest with the netches, I received the book and returned to the tavern, but the NPC does not have a dialogue option about the netches' habitat

[starchaser92]

has pplus patch out already?

[killer905]

5 hours ago, shuvals said:

Please advise. During the quest with the netches, I received the book and returned to the tavern, but the NPC does not have a dialogue option about the netches' habitat

Before entering the inn, it is Naryu who accosts Tirwin ‘Well, if it isn't the scholar and her babysitter!’. just don't enter the inn just wait for Naryu to approach :3

 

3 hours ago, starchaser92 said:

has pplus patch out already?

Huh? It works with SexLab+, but according to what I can see, it creates more problems than good.

[Gristle]

9 hours ago, shuvals said:

Please advise. During the quest with the netches, I received the book and returned to the tavern, but the NPC does not have a dialogue option about the netches' habitat

As killer905 mentioned, Naryu is supposed to force greet the PC and Tirwin outside the tavern before entering, at which point the quest marker changes. It seems in some cases this force greet doesn't work and I'm trying to figure out why. Which direction are you coming from? 

 

In any case, just go outside and approach Naryu and she should force greet you. In the next version, I'll give the NPC a dialogue option to send you to Naryu as a backup.

[killer905]

2 hours ago, Gristle said:

As killer905 mentioned, Naryu is supposed to force greet the PC and Tirwin outside the tavern before entering, at which point the quest marker changes. It seems in some cases this force greet doesn't work and I'm trying to figure out why. Which direction are you coming from? 

 

In any case, just go outside and approach Naryu and she should force greet you. In the next version, I'll give the NPC a dialogue option to send you to Naryu as a backup.

At the moment it looks like this.
Naryu walks up to the PC, but talks to Tirwin, and then when she finishes talking to her, then the stage changes to ‘talk to Naryu’ and only at that point ForceGreet the PC.

[starchaser92]

21 hours ago, killer905 said:

Before entering the inn, it is Naryu who accosts Tirwin ‘Well, if it isn't the scholar and her babysitter!’. just don't enter the inn just wait for Naryu to approach :3

 

Huh? It works with SexLab+, but according to what I can see, it creates more problems than good.

 How do you get it work? I cant even get past the first beast quest (wolf) 

The quest doesn't progress after the wolf sex scene,while it work perfectly without PPlus

[killer905]

58 minutes ago, starchaser92 said:

 How do you get it work? I cant even get past the first beast quest (wolf) 

The quest doesn't progress after the wolf sex scene,while it work perfectly without PPlus

Because I do not use this SexLab+, but other users with initial problems (With Sexlab+) have already confirmed that the quest works correctly after some fixes.

 

Conclusion? I have already written above that this creates more problems than good.

Edited February 28, 2025 by killer905

[Herowynne]

@killer905 @Gristle I finished the Animal Research quest line up to the current end of story, and it is really good! Thank you so much for creating this mod! ❤️

[eflat01]

On 2/27/2025 at 1:02 PM, Gristle said:

As killer905 mentioned, Naryu is supposed to force greet the PC and Tirwin outside the tavern before entering, at which point the quest marker changes. It seems in some cases this force greet doesn't work and I'm trying to figure out why. Which direction are you coming from? 

 

In any case, just go outside and approach Naryu and she should force greet you. In the next version, I'll give the NPC a dialogue option to send you to Naryu as a backup.

 

On 2/27/2025 at 3:07 PM, killer905 said:

At the moment it looks like this.
Naryu walks up to the PC, but talks to Tirwin, and then when she finishes talking to her, then the stage changes to ‘talk to Naryu’ and only at that point ForceGreet the PC.

 

Yes, at this stage of the quest there's a quest marker on the Retching Netch's door... which imho works fine if your paying attention due Naryu force greets Tirwin, as long as she's close.

 

The issues occur when the PC runs ahead not paying attention to Tirwin leading to this confusion. 

 

In Tirwin's words: "Don't leave your little elf girl behind alone!" or is it "Don't leave your little elf girl behind, alone!"

 

What I think should happen is if they enter the Retching Netch the barkeep should have a marker and dialog to send them to Naryu?

 

iow: a first and second quest marker talking to the barkeep exposes a find Naryu - in any case either leading to placing the PC and Tirwin on the right path.  

 

A similar scenario happened to me at the Greathall in Skaal Village due Naryu force greets the PC as you're headed to the hall, and if you get too far ahead of Tirwin the interaction between the PC and Tirwin does not take place. 

 

So... what should happened there is a "Talk to Tirwin" to hold up the PC before they travel off to catch a boat... 😉

 

Edited February 28, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

30 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

 

Yes, at this stage of the quest there's a quest marker on the Retching Netch's door... which imho works fine if your paying attention due Naryu force greets Tirwin, as long as she's close.

 

The issues occur when the PC runs ahead not paying attention to Tirwin leading to this confusion. 

 

In Tirwin's words: "Don't leave your little elf girl behind alone!" or is it "Don't leave your little elf girl behind, alone!"

 

What I think should happen is if they enter the Retching Netch the barkeep should have a marker and dialog to send them to Naryu?

 

iow: a first and second quest marker talking to the barkeep exposes a find Naryu - in any case either leading to placing the PC and Tirwin on the right path.  

 

A similar scenario happened to me at the Greathall in Skaal Village due Naryu force greets the PC as you're headed to the hall, and if you get too far ahead of Tirwin the interaction between the PC and Tirwin does not take place. 

 

So... what should happened there is a "Talk to Tirwin" to hold up the PC before they travel off to catch a boat... 😉

 

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