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kamithemoon

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23 minutes ago, killer905 said:

If you find the cause, a fix will be applied in the next update.

Wellp, absolutely no idea what's going on.  However, for the love of physics I have a hair patch that replaces her hair with physics.

 

 

Hacky Hair Physics Patch for Tirwin:

 

This mod adds a nonplayable long haired physics wig to Tirwin's outfit at 0 armor that also has the Sexlab No strip Keyword.  So you shouldn't see it in her inventory and it shouldn't be stripped during sex.  Then this mod changes Tirwin's short hair wig into a physics version and it keeps the base 10 armor so her short hair wig counts as better "armor" and she'll wear it instead of her long hair whenever it's in her inventory.

 

Not fully tested, at all, but works in theory.  The correct way to do this would have been to adjust Tirwin's mesh to make her bald then add long hair physics to her skin but I don't know how to use nifscope.

 

Requirements: KSWigsSMP

Animal Research Hair Physics.esp

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killer905

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9 minutes ago, kamithemoon said:

Opps, you beat me to it.  Yep, this fixed it.  Guess it was a nif issue then and I was completely wrong about the ENB stuff =\

 

According to a post I found mentioned the culprit as ENB or HDTSMP / faster HDTSMP.

 

But as you can see, this can be fixed by changing one value in the NIF file affected by the problem.

 

I guess we nned have to think about FOMOD, as there are already a couple of patches for Animal Research ^^

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kamithemoon

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I updated my voice pack to try and add a bit more emotion to the Dark Elf voice.  Original and new voice files provided for reference.

 

 

17 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

The wig is Sprite I think and in the mod it's armor form id is xx2a14f which point to the armor addon xx2a2150 for the model.

 

The mod is  likely using a TirwinLH.EquipItem(alias for the hair,true,true) to equip it? 

 

It's all good.  I replaced them with physics version and the patch Killer 905 provided worked as well.

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eflat01

eflat01

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2 hours ago, killer905 said:

This would already have a chance, but for Ria, as the rest of the NPCs cannot travel with PC and Tirwin.

 

 

Likely what I mean by that is awareness of them. i.e. Serana via SDA often strikes up a conversation with some npcs like Yosolda, Carlota, Belathor, etc...  just by being around them.

 

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

Stewart Little? As for the names, Tirwin and naryu Virian are taken from The ELder Scrolls Online :3

 

 

Npc's can be creatures... but you'd likely have to had kids to get that joke. Stewart Little is a children's book made into a film in the 90's about a silly talking mouse who gets adopted by a human family, the family's pet is a cat named "Snowbell".

killer905

killer905

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1 hour ago, kamithemoon said:

I updated my voice pack to try and add a bit more emotion to the Dark Elf voice.  Original and new voice files provided for reference.

 

 

It's all good.  I replaced them with physics version and the patch Killer 905 provided worked as well.

It sounds like I'm literally hearing Jenass's voice ^^

 

42 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Likely what I mean by that is awareness of them. i.e. Serana via SDA often strikes up a conversation with some npcs like Yosolda, Carlota, Belathor, etc...  just by being around them.

Ahh, I've never personally used it, but I guess it's high time to check it out ^^

 

42 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

Npc's can be creatures... but you'd likely have to had kids to get that joke. Stewart Little is a children's book made into a film in the 90's about a silly talking mouse who gets adopted by a human family, the family's pet is a cat named "Snowbell".

Oh no... you just gave me an idea of a name for Skeever :D

In my country (90‘s-2000’s) the likes of Dragon Ball, Sailer Moon, Pokemon, Tsubasa, Shaman King. I not to mention cartoons made just for my country, because 90% don't even know they exist :D

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Gristle

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6 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Btw... I really like how creative you and Gristle are with npc names, though "I can't help but wonder if Stewart Little is jealous that his cat gets more action from the ladies than he does?" 😂

But it's 'Snowflake'. I actually liked how that name for something so light and fragile was so surprising (and ill-fitting) for such a sturdy and ferocious beast. 🤣

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eflat01

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13 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

Oh, how about this?  Tirwin and Braith banter!

 

Don't mind me.  I'm just messing around.

 

 

 

 😂 Yes, though I would not want Tirwin to go wondering off too much all it takes is just a little bit of interaction with surroundings and other npcs. You don't what her nor npcs force greeting each other constantly. A few can go a long way. Like I said imo I'd start with Ria, Naryu and Angi... those she's a some rapport with.

 

 

Yep! That's one way to handle a bully 😏... Although Braith's real problem is she's sweet on Lars and just really wants him to kiss her (puppy love). Many kids are like that when they're not getting attention they'll seek negative attention because it's better than none at all, especially girls (and sometimes women) do that.

 

btw: reminds me, when our kids were little around nine or so, I told our son and a nephew while in front of our daughter and a group of her friends, if you like a girl and want her to know it go get an earth worm drop it down inside of the back of her shirt and then squish it. The girls were like 'eww, and said that's mean, then the light went on upstairs as they realized it was a joke. 

 

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eflat01

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11 hours ago, Gristle said:

But it's 'Snowflake'. I actually liked how that name for something so light and fragile was so surprising (and ill-fitting) for such a sturdy and ferocious beast. 🤣

 😂 Yeah it's a great name - and part of what makes your mods fun. I have to say in my defense it's been a while since we visited Angi, I'm old and am lucky I'd not forgotten my own name yet, and Snowflake, Snowball or Snowbell, close enough they all pop up in mind.

 

I had dropped a few npc's into my game i.e. One I added was a bar wench in Thirsk - every mead hall should have a wench right? - her last name Honey-Dripper, bit straight to point but have to admit Nord surnames are great. 

 

I also enjoy your use of lore friendly slang, like the term of skeever (for pussy), etc... people are always creative with slang and innuendo and use what they're familiar with.

 

Reminds me, back in the late 80's I went to pick up a band-mate of mine at his apartment, he was in grad-school at the time, he had a white-board on the wall in his kitchen, listing every slang word he and others could think of for vagina. I looked at it and thought well what's missing and rattled off snatch and snapper. There must had been close to forty words on that thing.

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kamithemoon

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3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

 😂 Yes, though I would not want Tirwin to go wondering off too much all it takes is just a little bit of interaction with surroundings and other npcs. You don't what her nor npcs force greeting each other constantly. A few can go a long way. Like I said imo I'd start with Ria, Naryu and Angi... those she's a some rapport with.

 

 

Yep! That's one way to handle a bully 😏... Although Braith's real problem is she's sweet on Lars and just really wants him to kiss her (puppy love). Many kids are like that when they're not getting attention they'll seek negative attention because it's better than none at all, especially girls (and sometimes women) do that.

 

btw: reminds me, when our kids were little around nine or so, I told our son and a nephew while in front of our daughter and a group of her friends, if you like a girl and want her to know it go get an earth worm drop it down inside of the back of her shirt and then squish it. The girls were like 'eww, and said that's mean, then the light went on upstairs as they realized it was a joke. 

 

 

Maybe something like this then as banter between Lars and Tirwin?  Tirwin is bad about giving relationship advice to small human children lol.  It's really up to the authors though, I'm just goofing and showing off what I can do =P.

 

 

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eflat01

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4 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

 

Maybe something like this then as banter between Lars and Tirwin?  Tirwin is bad about giving relationship advice to small human children lol.  It's really up to the authors though, I'm just goofing and showing off what I can do =P.

 

 

🤣 Lmao, Least someone out there understands dad jokes... and advice. 

AthenaTheLover

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I have some questions.


Why are the books called Taming Creature?
Any specific reason why a scholar is a High Elf?
What will be in the next update and when?
Getting rid of the Thalmor with the horse task wouldn't lead to her arrest/execution of Tirwin faster?

kkiiees

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I recently downloaded JK's Solitude Outskirts and found these floating crates that belong to this mod. I wonder if it will affect anything from this mod?


 

On 2/22/2025 at 10:46 PM, kkiiees said:

so I'm having a problem. After having sex in quests, Tirwin suppose to talk to me but she doesn't, she just immediately put her clothes back and when I interact with her, it only show to default dialogue and I can't progress anymore. I have to use setstage in order to advance

Oh and also this problem I had a while back just came back. Don't really know why, probably only occur to me. But to save time from any more hassle, I just when to ask if there are any command line that could manually trigger Tirwin dialogues after sex in each quests. I did use setstage but it can just go straight to the dialogue that my PC ask what should we do with the creature. Thanks.

killer905

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1 hour ago, kkiiees said:

I recently downloaded JK's Solitude Outskirts and found these floating crates that belong to this mod. I wonder if it will affect anything from this mod?

These chests should appear during the task ‘Chase’ on the ship you arrive on when you reach Solitude and disappear when you complete it. 

In a word, incompatible with JK's Solitude Outskirts. A patch for this would have to be made.

 

1 hour ago, kkiiees said:

Oh and also this problem I had a while back just came back. Don't really know why, probably only occur to me. But to save time from any more hassle, I just when to ask if there are any command line that could manually trigger Tirwin dialogues after sex in each quests. I did use setstage but it can just go straight to the dialogue that my PC ask what should we do with the creature. Thanks.

It literally sounds like SexLab P+. Unfortunately if you have this mod, the author of this mod has to fix it (it has been written about in this thread by others). And yes personally I'd avoid typing in commands to skip some activities (might mess up those sentences or future ones).

eflat01

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2 hours ago, kkiiees said:

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I recently downloaded JK's Solitude Outskirts and found these floating crates that belong to this mod. I wonder if it will affect anything from this mod?

 

I think that may be where the ship comes in? Strange. Oh! look in SeEdit see which one is later in the load order, I think J.K. Solitude Outskirts should be loaded before Animal Research (Those props - what they are - should be temporary enabled/disabled by this mod). I do not have J.K.'s outskirts but I use J.K.'s Skyrim and I always make sure most  everything always loads after it (even though I've patches for a lot of things). 

 

If you look in SSeEdit you should find this area at: 

Worldspace > 0000003C Tamriel > Block -1,0 > Sub-Block -2,2 > 000092BC  SolitudeDocks01 > Temporary

 

You can see what's overwriting what then. I think you may have J.K. Outskirts loading after this mod which is causing that.

 

I have two mods changing things there that are later in load (Realistic Boat Bobbing and Realistic Water Two), they cause no issues... then again they're not adding clutter to the area.

 

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killer905

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5 hours ago, AthenaTheLover said:

Why are the books called Taming Creature?

The books are so named because ‘creature’, is a general term and can be applied even to a werewolf or vampire lord etc.

Yes I know the mod is called Animal Research, but Tirwin doesn't know what books he will find and if they won't be about animals or other creatures. In a nutshell it allows us to add tasks to different creatures not only for typical animals like dog, horse, wolf etc.

 

5 hours ago, AthenaTheLover said:

Any specific reason why a scholar is a High Elf?

Originally it was going to be Breton ‘Vivi’, but High Elf and it's pureblood gave more possibilities like the problem with Thalmor as to her activity. 

I personally don't like High Elves because they impose on other races who can be gods and which ones can't. And in addition, we have the chance to humiliate their very warlike race with such quite unnormal behaviour :D

 

Anyway, an extra reason to kick Thalmor's ass in Skyrim ^^

 

5 hours ago, AthenaTheLover said:

What will be in the next update and when?
Getting rid of the Thalmor with the horse task wouldn't lead to her arrest/execution of Tirwin faster?

You can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?usp=sharing

 

And never ask "when" update this only pisses off the creator.

 

Technically, it's currently Thalmor I don't know what Tirwin is doing together with PC or animals also they don't have much reason to pursue her (yet)

killer905

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12 minutes ago, KentuckyExpat said:

killer905 - Any particular reason you refer to Tirwin as both "he" and "she"? Is Tirwin a hermaphrodite? Just curious.

A simple typo while typing :D

eflat01

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2 hours ago, killer905 said:

These chests should appear during the task ‘Chase’ on the ship you arrive on when you reach Solitude and disappear when you complete it. 

In a word, incompatible with JK's Solitude Outskirts. A patch for this would have to be made.

 

 

The mod does disabled the ship and the clutter (Chest, crates, barrels) for me, heck I never noticed the Nord horn (good thing PC tends to steal those things) but the mod did leave a Thalmor Soldier behind - Base Form BA2EB2 Ref Form BA2EB3 - on the dock. 

 

Would not had known he was still there if he didn't happen to gang-rage the PC along with the crew from the Red Wave (Xander, Dorian, etc ...) . 

 

(note to PC: don't go fishing on the dock at night, Why would they put fishing bait so close to a busy ship, wouldn't that scare the fish away?)

 

Spoiler

 

Dragonbron : "Why is this place called the Winking Skeever?"

 

Corpulus Vinius : "Well, as it turns out, I had a pet skeever when I was a boy and she used to wink." 

 

Dragonborn : "You kept a skeever as a pet?"

 

Corpulus Vinius : "Yes, I know how to handle them well, So then, would you mind if I pet yours?"

 

 

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Gristle

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8 hours ago, AthenaTheLover said:

I have some questions.


Why are the books called Taming Creature?
Any specific reason why a scholar is a High Elf?
What will be in the next update and when?
Getting rid of the Thalmor with the horse task wouldn't lead to her arrest/execution of Tirwin faster?

To add to what @killer905 said, the "Taming" part of Taming Creatures reflects that the reader learns to "tame" creatures (including usually aggressive ones) enough to have sex with them. Later in the quest, Tirwin may be able to use this knowledge to create a spell or spells that tame creatures for this purpose.

 

I admit I didn't recognize the story possibilities for a high elf initially, but it does add a lot of potential for drama and conflict, and heightens the stakes of Tirwin's research.

 

As for killing the Thalmor, there were likely no witnesses. Also, although these Thalmor had info on Tirwin, they weren't specially sent to find or arrest Tirwin. Finally, at least in my game anyway, Thalmor tend to get killed all the time when venturing out of towns. 

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