Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[killer905]

10 hours ago, leking said:

In fille "her up" you already get cum ingredient that you can use to make powerfull stamina poisons or to stiate your cum hunger from "cum swallow needs".

 

Suggestions:

 

-Making a specific "moaning voice" and some lewd phrase like "oh fuck/ keep pounding me" and more for tyrwin.

Currently when in a sexlab scene all females will use generic sexlab females voices. But Tyrwin has been so much well voiced that it feel strange to suddenly her her moan in those generic females sound that do not sounds like her.

 

(i use "Bella voice" for my PC and it already feels a little strange to hear my pc moan in a different voice )

 

-Would love to hear comment when her or PC are peeing in front of each other/ in each other mouths using  "Pee and fart".

 

-In my opinion "fill her up" is an awsome addition to this mod. So if she could make lewd comments about how she likes to feel/seePC having cum coming out of holes it woud be amazing.

I am of the opinion that the fewer requirements, the better, as there is less chance of the mod breaking down.

 

Unfortunately, but I don't think xVASynth is capable of handling something like moans, sighs or other things.

 

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

She wouldn't be the most passionate vocalist but I suppose that's in line with her highborn nature and the taboo subject of her research lol.  Very Victorian.

The "Victorian" lines are very amusing. My issue is I don't know how to implement Sexlab "moans".  In fact, I don't know how to create any dialogue for a Sexlab actor during sex. I've cheated a few times in other mods by cloning one of the actors and placing the clone in a hidden cell, but there must be a better way to do that as well.

 

The idea of using select combat grunts and moans from vanilla is a good idea as well. In the Balazar mod, I had some success doing something similar -- using a set of the Sexlab "moan" sounds for the PC's response to being spanked or cropped. I just chose a particular set and increased the pitch and volume, and it worked pretty well. 

[eflat01]

15 hours ago, leking said:

In fille "her up" you already get cum ingredient that you can use to make powerfull stamina poisons or to stiate your cum hunger from "cum swallow needs".

 

Suggestions:

 

-Making a specific "moaning voice" and some lewd phrase like "oh fuck/ keep pounding me" and more for tyrwin.

Currently when in a sexlab scene all females will use generic sexlab females voices. But Tyrwin has been so much well voiced that it feel strange to suddenly her her moan in those generic females sound that do not sounds like her.

 

(i use "Bella voice" for my PC and it already feels a little strange to hear my pc moan in a different voice )

 

-Would love to hear comment when her or PC are peeing in front of each other/ in each other mouths using  "Pee and fart".

 

-In my opinion "fill her up" is an awsome addition to this mod. So if she could make lewd comments about how she likes to feel/seePC having cum coming out of holes it woud be amazing.

 

Reacting about exchange on Tyrwin clothes: 

I found the current system perfect. It allows you to choose your level of immersion and roleplay as you can dress her as you want you can tell if she is naked or not. Not everyone plays the mod in the same maner. So it would be best if it stays like this or similar instead of forcing you to dress her in a certain way. Options are always better.

 

Yes I see, I use sexlab extra voices - there are quite a few out there, (I use some porn star's voice but I thought I saw a Bella voice up here somewhere). Anyway, Someone should make better skyrim voicetypes Tirwin default uses FemaleEven Toned, though I use Kamithemoon's voice for her... hopefully they put one out and include the files in her replacement voice archive.

Edited February 21, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

The "Victorian" lines are very amusing. My issue is I don't know how to implement Sexlab "moans".  In fact, I don't know how to create any dialogue for a Sexlab actor during sex. I've cheated a few times in other mods by cloning one of the actors and placing the clone in a hidden cell, but there must be a better way to do that as well.

 

The idea of using select combat grunts and moans from vanilla is a good idea as well. In the Balazar mod, I had some success doing something similar -- using a set of the Sexlab "moan" sounds for the PC's response to being spanked or cropped. I just chose a particular set and increased the pitch and volume, and it worked pretty well. 

 

I assume you could just play those direct from Data/sound/fx/sexlab. I'm not sure they run off the expressions? I doubt it...

 

I have some porn voices loaded in slot's 9 10 11 and 13 I think.

 

May likely best to use one of the extra female slots if words need to be said? Still they would be random. 

 

So you can put them in a slot and assign that slot to Tirwin in SL.

 

For instance:

 

Data/sound/fx/sexlab/vFemaleMoan01

 

and or what not

 

Data/sound/fx/sexlab/VoiceSlot 01 (Female)/Hot Sound

...

Data/sound/fx/sexlab/VoiceSlot 26 (Female)/Mild Sound

 

I have spank that Ass along with a different voice pack for that, and for Estrus I think I'm using Melanie as a replacer. 

 

Edited February 21, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

23 hours ago, magicnephilim said:

It's only a few seconds to run from there to Markarth, you can see in one of the videos.

 

But this mod is not the end of the story... by disabling Animal Research, I can walk into Markath, but now Whiterun gives me crashes.

There's something around creating these crashes, and it's enforced/suppressed by other mods.

 

This will be a painful journey 🥴

 

I had a ctd about a year ago between fort greenwall and shore's stone due dyndolod... was either a mod I had lacked a lod or it had one and did not generate correctly in dyndolod's generation. When disabled dyndolod it stopped ctd at the spot. I've still no clue what was near that location causing that.

Edited February 21, 2025 by eflat01

[kamithemoon]

Yeah, it was late and I was confused and used the wrong voice type.  Sexlab Extra Voices or Nubies Extra voices each add a bunch of new voice types to Sexlab.  I have no idea how to make a mod but I could just hijack the audio files for one of these extra voices and throw in some FemaleEventoned moans, assuming they generate correctly.  But this means they will be governed by SexLab rules concerning how they play so context aware dialogue isn't really possible.  You just get mild, mid, and "hot" categories that are supposed to progress as a scene progresses but the sound is a bit all over the place I think.

 

Update: Yep, this is a no go, at least on my end.  Small grunts I can do but sexy moaning or excited vocalizations won't work.  If someone wanted to do this for immersion purposes then their best bet is to rip and splice whatever vanilla audio files they can find.  I attached a few that sound appropriate enough to get you started.

Edited February 21, 2025 by kamithemoon

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, kamithemoon said:

Yeah, it was late and I was confused and used the wrong voice type.  Sexlab Extra Voices or Nubies Extra voices each add a bunch of new voice types to Sexlab.  I have no idea how to make a mod but I could just hijack the audio files for one of these extra voices and throw in some FemaleEventoned moans, assuming they generate correctly.  But this means they will be governed by SexLab rules concerning how they play so context aware dialogue isn't really possible.  You just get mild, mid, and "hot" categories that are supposed to progress as a scene progresses but the sound is a bit all over the place I think.

 

Update: Yep, this is a no go, at least on my end.  Small grunts I can do but sexy moaning or excited vocalizations won't work.  If someone wanted to do this for immersion purposes then their best bet is to rip and splice whatever vanilla audio files they can find.

 

Right, can't be context direct like "Please, Give me that big horse cock." though the mod itself already states context before and/or after scene,

 

In SL however they can say phrases like "Oh, by the gods, fuck me harder", etc... at least fitting a "voicetype". Like I said I have four slots loaded which were based on edited clips from certain porn stars. I have the PC assigned to one, Serana another (which is very close to her tone). SL does know the difference between oral/vaginal/anal if you look at the file directories... So the PC and Serana actually do a lot of dirty talk base on the actions... seems to know who's the giver/receiver too.  

 

To use a slot you have to assign it in SL McM... which is pretty simple.

 

Edited February 21, 2025 by eflat01

[dragoduval]

Damn, it look good AF. Any plan to make a OSTIM patch ?

[killer905]

10 minutes ago, dragoduval said:

Damn, it look good AF. Any plan to make a OSTIM patch ?

Sadly no. Ostim not support any creature animations.

[kamithemoon]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

 

Right, can't be context direct like "Please, Give me that big horse cock." though the mod itself already states context before and/or after scene,

 

In SL however they can say phrases like "Oh, by the gods, fuck me harder", etc... at least fitting a "voicetype". Like I said I have four slots loaded which were based on edited clips from certain porn stars. I have the PC assigned to one, Serana another (which is very close to her tone). SL does know the difference between oral/vaginal/anal if you look at the file directories... So the PC and Serana actually do a lot of dirty talk base on the actions... seems to know who's the giver/receiver too.  

 

To use a slot you have to assign it in SL McM... which is pretty simple.

 

Sure, I can add comments if Gristle would like to write some.  They would be pretty limited though.

 

1. They'd have to be generic.  

     a. Can't reference cocks as it would be out of place during lesbian sex

     b. Can't reference beasts as they would be out of place in vanilla sex

     c. Can't reference sex type (consensual/nonconsensual)

     d. Can't specifically reference oral/vaginal/anal sex

2. They can't really include sound effects like heavy breathing, moaning, etc.  Except for what I can splice out of vanilla audio.

3. They can't be too passionate.  Emotions are dulled considerably in conversion.

 

I don't know how to mod this but I'd be happy to voice any dialogue Gristle would like to write and you can add it into a voice pack mod.  I'd point out though that this is a testament to the love this mod has that no other follower I'm aware of has their own dedicated sexlab voice patch!

[leking]

2 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

Sure, I can add comments if Gristle would like to write some.  They would be pretty limited though.

 

1. They'd have to be generic.  

     a. Can't reference cocks as it would be out of place during lesbian sex

     b. Can't reference beasts as they would be out of place in vanilla sex

     c. Can't reference sex type (consensual/nonconsensual)

     d. Can't specifically reference oral/vaginal/anal sex

2. They can't really include sound effects like heavy breathing, moaning, etc.  Except for what I can splice out of vanilla audio.

3. They can't be too passionate.  Emotions are dulled considerably in conversion.

 

I don't know how to mod this but I'd be happy to voice any dialogue Gristle would like to write and you can add it into a voice pack mod.  I'd point out though that this is a testament to the love this mod has that no other follower I'm aware of has their own dedicated sexlab voice patch!

I don't get one thing:

 

You are saying the comment can't refer to oral/anal etc but eflat01 just said that szxlab is able to tell the difference? So why not?

 

He also says that sl can recognise the partner. Would be fun to hear the bella voice saying "oh yes tyrwin" 😁

Edited February 22, 2025 by leking

[leking]

About the quest bug report now:

 

-During the giant quest after helping tyrwin to warm up it looks like the delay before she enters in action with the giant was way too long. The first time i reloaded the save but again after the warm up she was just standing there doing nothing. Then i sent my PC playing with the giant and when we finished she suddenly trigger the next step and engage with the giant. No idea why this delay.

 

-With the ash spawn it seems like his meshes where completely deformed but only during 1 seconde then went back to normal then deformed again. I was not able to take a screen shot but he was doing some kind of 2 meters length patrol from right to left and every 2 seconds his meshes were completely messed up during 1 second.

During the sex scene no problem though.

 

-I have noticed sometimes during a sex scene including Tyrwin when i move my camera she suddenly disappear until the end of the sex scene; then: sometimes she never come back even after and i have to save and reload to make her visible again. It only happend to me during this mod as far as i remember but i might be wrong (i could have forget another time it happen to her outisde of this mod )

[Gristle]

46 minutes ago, leking said:

You are saying the comment can't refer to oral/anal etc but eflat01 just said that szxlab is able to tell the difference? So why not?

This is an issue with respect to all comments on Sexlab sex. The problem is that Sexlab animation tags are for the entire animation, and not for a particular phase. And many (most?) of the animations don't have the same action through every phase. For example, an animation could be tagged with both Oral and Anal, and you wouldn't want an actor talking about putting a cock deeper in their ass when they still have a cock in their mouth. So, while such tag information is sometimes useful, it's not as helpful as you might think in coming up with appropriate dialogue, either from participants or observers. 

[Gristle]

52 minutes ago, leking said:

About the quest bug report now:

 

-During the giant quest after helping tyrwin to warm up it looks like the delay before she enters in action with the giant was way too long. The first time i reloaded the save but again after the warm up she was just standing there doing nothing. Then i sent my PC playing with the giant and when we finished she suddenly trigger the next step and engage with the giant. No idea why this delay.

Tirwin will always force greet the PC after any sex (even sex not started by this mod). Sometimes, for various environment or odd engine reasons, she doesn't get close enough. If she doesn't force greet you after any sex event, then walk over close to her and she should force greet you, which will advance the stage. 

52 minutes ago, leking said:

-With the ash spawn it seems like his meshes where completely deformed but only during 1 seconde then went back to normal then deformed again. I was not able to take a screen shot but he was doing some kind of 2 meters length patrol from right to left and every 2 seconds his meshes were completely messed up during 1 second.

During the sex scene no problem though.

I don't think that issue comes from this mod. It's just using a standard ash spawn and not changing its meshes or textures.

52 minutes ago, leking said:

-I have noticed sometimes during a sex scene including Tyrwin when i move my camera she suddenly disappear until the end of the sex scene; then: sometimes she never come back even after and i have to save and reload to make her visible again. It only happend to me during this mod as far as i remember but i might be wrong (i could have forget another time it happen to her outisde of this mod )

I don't think this issue is from this mod either. It's not using any camera controls.

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

Sure, I can add comments if Gristle would like to write some.  They would be pretty limited though.

 

1. They'd have to be generic.  

     a. Can't reference cocks as it would be out of place during lesbian sex

     b. Can't reference beasts as they would be out of place in vanilla sex

     c. Can't reference sex type (consensual/nonconsensual)

     d. Can't specifically reference oral/vaginal/anal sex

2. They can't really include sound effects like heavy breathing, moaning, etc.  Except for what I can splice out of vanilla audio.

3. They can't be too passionate.  Emotions are dulled considerably in conversion.

 

I don't know how to mod this but I'd be happy to voice any dialogue Gristle would like to write and you can add it into a voice pack mod.  I'd point out though that this is a testament to the love this mod has that no other follower I'm aware of has their own dedicated sexlab voice patch!

Thanks. Let me think about the best way to do this. I read recently that I may be able to start a scene (to hold dialogue) when Sexlab starts based on Sexlab variables. That would allow me to condition the dialogue in the scene to know the partner gender, creature type, rough/aggressive tags, victim flag, and other things. The scene dialogue could also be random.

[leking]

i am a little stump with the ash guardians. Where can i found animation for that creature ? Is he using another creature meshes? i have billy and anub pack.

 

(the ash spawn is using draugers animation for example)

[Gristle]

6 minutes ago, leking said:

i am a little stump with the ash guardians. Where can i found animation for that creature ? Is he using another creature meshes? i have billy and anub pack.

 

(the ash spawn is using draugers animation for example)

Yes. Ash guardians use Storm Atronach animations. I'll put this in the spoiler box of animations needed. I use Billyy and Anub but also Nibbles.

[Kanerah]

Top notch mod, this stays permanently in my load order. 

Are you guys finished, or close to it, with the mod? Any future plans with something, of different variant, with another custom follower?

[Gristle]

48 minutes ago, Kanerah said:

Top notch mod, this stays permanently in my load order. 

Are you guys finished, or close to it, with the mod? Any future plans with something, of different variant, with another custom follower?

Thanks. Not finished. Still quite a few creatures to cover. Future quests will include trips to Apocrypha, Castle Volkihar and the College of Winterhold.  Plus, always more Thalmor intrigue.

 

For another custom follower, if you haven't tried it, check out Adventures with Balazar.

[killer905]

58 minutes ago, Kanerah said:

Top notch mod, this stays permanently in my load order. 

Are you guys finished, or close to it, with the mod? Any future plans with something, of different variant, with another custom follower?

Currently, 16 of the 42 planned creatures are available. So some content to be added.

 

There is a plan for another custom follower, but it is currently in a drawer.

 

[GamingAndy]

On 7/26/2024 at 8:38 AM, Gristle said:

Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

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By killer905 and Gristle 

 

This revision adds Part III to this creature-themed quest and follower mod for male and female PCs, voiced with xVASynth. NEW: Version 0.3 takes Tirwin and the PC to Solstheim and includes seven new creatures, four new locations, a new spell, new NPCs, a Tirwin outfit system, and more Tirwin configuration options (via dialogue).  Version 0.35 has bug fixes, including for option to skip first three books, for upgrading from v0.22 between bear quest and troll quest, for Vahlok's Tomb book issues, and Ragnar-related issues.      

 

A novice scholar from Alinor in the Summerset Isles seeks your assistance in recovering a series of books with forbidden knowledge about the creatures of Tamriel. Although ordered destroyed by a former Arch Mage, the former College librarian could not bring herself to destroy any book, and instead scattered them in hiding places across Skyrim and beyond. The young High Elf scholar seeks the knowledge in the books to improve her chances of admission to the Altmer College of the Sapiarchs. She also seeks protection from wild creatures as well as protection from the Thalmor that seek any means to discredit her family.  

 

To Start the Quest:

 

Enter the main area of the Bannered Mare in Whiterun and listen to the conversation between two elves. Your PC will be approached by the High Elf after the conversation.

 

To Continue the Quest:

 

If you already completed Parts I and II of the quest, you can continue with Tirwin's quests by asking her about the next book. If you are starting a new profile and wish to skip over quests previously played, you can do so via dialogue with Tirwin after you are initially recruited by her in the Bannered Mare.

 

Requirements:

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LE:

Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11811

 

SexLab:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/150-skyrim-sexlab-sex-animation-framework-v162-updated-jun-3rd-2016/

 

SexLab Animation Loader:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2488-sexlab-animation-loader/

SE/AE:

Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038

 

SexLab:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/20058-sexlab-se-sex-animation-framework-v166b-01182024/

 

SexLab Animation Loader:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/23737-sexlab-animation-loader/

 

 

Animations Required:

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Ash Guardian

Ash Hopper

Ash Spawn

Bear

Boar

Deer

Dog

Giant

Horse

Mammoth

Netch

Riekling

Sabre Cat

Troll

Werebear

Wolf

 

Optional High Quality Voice Files:

 

Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar - Hiqh Quality Voice Pack 0.33 - https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/36360-animal-research-the-insatiable-scholar-hiqh-quality-voice-pack/ - by kamithemoon

 

Optional High Poly NPC Patch:

 

High Poly Patch - by kkiiees - "Animal Research High poly.rar" file in Downloads section

Requirements for High Poly Patch:

• High Poly Head 1.4 SE - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1V_jcYzwTiKnSv8Dbv-7Z0hh9SWbkn6Bi
• SG eyebrows - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/25890
• SG eyebrows for High Poly - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/70905

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• Submitter
  Gristle
• Submitted
  07/25/2024
• Category
  Adult Mods
• Requirements
  Sexlab, SLA, FNIS+Creature, KS Hairdos
• Regular Edition Compatible
  Yes

 

Hello 👋 i really like this mod but it seems that this new version not working for me not sure why the older version have worked perfectly, I’m playing on Skyrim se 1.5.97 I have used the same load order that I have with the previous version but the quest is not starting. I entered the location tirwin started the conversation with the high elf but they finish talking and tirwin only stays there and watch at me but she is not asking me to help her find the books to start the quest. If I start the conversation I don’t have any line to start it. How do I fix this issue and make tirwin start the quest? Thank you 🙏 

[kamithemoon]

9 hours ago, leking said:

I don't get one thing:

 

You are saying the comment can't refer to oral/anal etc but eflat01 just said that szxlab is able to tell the difference? So why not?

 

He also says that sl can recognise the partner. Would be fun to hear the bella voice saying "oh yes tyrwin" 😁

Sexlab voices only have 3 categories; mild, mid, and hot.  When a scene starts, the voice is supposed to progress from mild to hot.  That's it.  There isn't a way built in the framework currently that I'm aware of where the voice would be context aware.  This is why you've never seen voice packs with context aware moaning.

[zwdragonbone8314]

Hi, I just download the latest version of this mod. Great mod, but I'm running a problem when doing the Mammoth quest as after the conversation , there is suppose to be a sex scene but it never happen.  And the quest is stuck there. I try to load early save but still stuck in the same place. 

[killer905]

1 hour ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, I just download the latest version of this mod. Great mod, but I'm running a problem when doing the Mammoth quest as after the conversation , there is suppose to be a sex scene but it never happen.  And the quest is stuck there. I try to load early save but still stuck in the same place. 

The mammoth quest was already started after the update?

 

type

 

sqs var_giant

 

check which last stage has the digit 1 instead of 0, then type in

 

then type 

setstage var_giant xx 

xx is the next stage number

Alternatively, wait for the appropriate FIX.

[kkiiees]

so I'm having a problem. After having sex in quests, Tirwin suppose to talk to me but she doesn't, she just immediately put her clothes back and when I interact with her, it only show to default dialogue and I can't progress anymore. I have to use setstage in order to advance