Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[leking]

Personally i don't use FNIS i use nemesis and pandora. I suppose FNIS is outdated also compared to nemesis  plus pandora. I know it can be long to make the change just saying this combination works perfectly at least for me.

[Nazel]

13 minutes ago, leking said:

Personally i don't use FNIS i use nemesis and pandora. I suppose FNIS is outdated also compared to nemesis  plus pandora. I know it can be long to make the change just saying this combination works perfectly at least for me.

Well I followed the Requirement in the description, I will try Nemesis + pandora if it works better !

[eflat01]

58 minutes ago, Nazel said:

Yes @killer905, it's literally some seconds after getting the information to wait behind the wagon. I downloaded Anubs anim as @eflat01 suggested me (and Nibbles), I still have the "XXX - OK" message, the animation worked a little but Tirwin just get stuck in the wolf, I have the sound but not the animation 😭

 

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Just guessing here, Looks like sexlab is trying due the two of them (Tirwin and Wolf) standing on the idle marker, SL even undressed her, standing there in stick-figure pose hmm... You're sure you ran FNIS or Nemesis + pandora first (without errors) and a full reset/reload in SL Animation Loader? 

 

Here's a question, can you force any other SL animations?

Edited January 13, 2025 by eflat01

[Nazel]

55 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Just guessing here, Looks like sexlab is trying due the two of them (Tirwin and Wolf) standing on the idle marker, SL even undressed her, standing there in stick-figure pose hmm... You're sure you ran FNIS or Nemesis + pandora first (without errors) and a full reset/reload in SL Animation Loader? 

 

Here's a question, can you force any other SL animations?

Well I think it's an order problem, FNIS isn't deploy before SL, maybe it's the problem. I can't force other SL animations, I have the same result. I want to change the deploy order in Vortex, but I can't find how to do it 🥲

[eflat01]

28 minutes ago, Nazel said:

Well I think it's an order problem, FNIS isn't deploy before SL, maybe it's the problem. I can't force other SL animations, I have the same result. I want to change the deploy order in Vortex, but I can't find how to do it 🥲

I do not think the deploy order matters there... FNIS is an esp for one thing while SL is an esm. I do know I can't process an older animation pack than those converted to SE/AE in FNIS, it will be full of errors in the behavior files and screw up the lot. 

[Nazel]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

I do not think the deploy order matters there... FNIS is an esp for one thing while SL is an esm. I do know I can't process an older animation pack than those converted to SE/AE in FNIS, it will be full of errors in the behavior files and screw up the lot. 

Well... I just broke my game trying solving the problem (corrupted saves, mods unrecognizables) 😂 
I'm gonna make a pause with Skyrim right now, I wanted to thank you all for replying so fast ! Have a nice game in Tamriel, cya 😁!!

[killer905]

  

10 hours ago, leking said:

Personally i don't use FNIS i use nemesis and pandora. I suppose FNIS is outdated also compared to nemesis  plus pandora. I know it can be long to make the change just saying this combination works perfectly at least for me.

 

10 hours ago, Nazel said:

Well I followed the Requirement in the description, I will try Nemesis + pandora if it works better !

As far as I know, pandora works very well and there is no need to add a nemesis especially as it does not support creatures. Pandora is the best choice at the moment.

[killer905]

On 1/11/2025 at 8:13 PM, eflat01 said:

Tirwin seems content for the moment.

 

I checked the posts for a submission for Gristle to fix, but I don't recall seeing this screenshot before.

 

As for the screenshot itself, an acceptable outfit :3

 

And why she have brown hair? 🤔

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

I checked the posts for a submission for Gristle to fix, but I don't recall seeing this screenshot before.

 

As for the screenshot itself, an acceptable outfit :3

 

And why she have brown hair? 🤔

 

I added the female courts wizards to the unique npc spid in this  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/113804 and decided Tirwin should should also get her own outfit, she's special after all.

 

Ummm, Hair? Well she must dye it from time to time? You know how ladies are. It's actually darker blonde but the lighting darkens, Sorry about that. It's just me toying around not hard edit just threw an esl on top.

Edited January 14, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

 

I added the female courts wizards to the unique npc spid in this  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/113804 and decided Tirwin should should also get her own outfit, she's special after all.

 

Ummm, Hair? Well she must dye it from time to time? You know how ladies are. It's actually darker blonde but the lighting darkens, Sorry about that. It's just me toying around not hard edit just threw an esl on top.

At least she's dressed completely, rather than the 40% of other players just like that:

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Edited January 14, 2025 by killer905

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

At least she's dressed completely, rather than the 40% of other players just like that:

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Maybe? I don't dress npc's just outright lewd, Though she is going commando (not wearing panties) then again none of the ladies wearing dresses, robes or skirts in my game do.  

 

 

Just to to put her in better light, Though she always seems to blink when the camera flash goes off. 😉 

 

 

Cosnach should shut up when I'm trying to do something, he's always rambling on like Serana, though Serana gets really mischievous due SLSFC.

Edited January 14, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

 

Maybe? I don't dress npc's just outright lewd, Though she is going commando (not wearing panties) then again none of the ladies wearing dresses, robes or skirts in my game do.  

 

 

Just to to put her in better light, Though she always seems to blink when the camera flash goes off. 😉 

 

 

Cosnach should shut up when I'm trying to do something, he's always rambling on like Serana, though Serana gets really mischievous due SLSFC.

Cute :3

[kkiiees]

Great mod, I have a question that will Naryu (the Dark Elf we met with Tirwin) reappear in the new quest(s)? I feel like we need more backstories or involvement from her. Beside, I make a small replacer for her while making one for Tirwin (because why not) and I would love to see more from this Dark Elf

 

 

[killer905]

56 minutes ago, kkiiees said:

Great mod, I have a question that will Naryu (the Dark Elf we met with Tirwin) reappear in the new quest(s)? I feel like we need more backstories or involvement from her. Beside, I make a small replacer for her while making one for Tirwin (because why not) and I would love to see more from this Dark Elf

 

 

Collar? Hmm, Tirwin was a bad, bad girl

 

More Naryu in next update "soon" 

[eflat01]

10 hours ago, kkiiees said:

Great mod, I have a question that will Naryu (the Dark Elf we met with Tirwin) reappear in the new quest(s)? I feel like we need more backstories or involvement from her. Beside, I make a small replacer for her while making one for Tirwin (because why not) and I would love to see more from this Dark Elf

 

 

 Be careful around her... she may be dressed as a thief but is in the dark brotherhood faction. 😉 

[Gristle]

On 1/14/2025 at 10:32 PM, kkiiees said:

Great mod, I have a question that will Naryu (the Dark Elf we met with Tirwin) reappear in the new quest(s)? I feel like we need more backstories or involvement from her. Beside, I make a small replacer for her while making one for Tirwin (because why not) and I would love to see more from this Dark Elf

 

 

What collar is that?

[killer905]

34 minutes ago, Gristle said:

What collar is that?

For me it's look Devious Devices

[killer905]

Mini Update:
- Added how often Tirwin has to say her dialogues
- Added possibility of how often Tirwin has to cast Candlelight spell

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An thing that will be in a next update!
WARNING: If you don't want spoilers about this don't click ‘spoiler’ :3

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Are you sure?

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Okay, on your responsibility :3

 

Tirwin outfit system ❤️

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VwfcsBDgCHVsfkUtMc3B0BM-Q8M9iPLJ/view?usp=sharing

 

And that means we can select the Tirwin outfit as:
- Ordinary outfit i.e. covers everything
- Skimpy and Topless, but she will then change her outfit in cities to robes and will have unique dialogues about it
 

 

 

Edited January 16, 2025 by killer905

[Kanerah]

Weeell, finished the mod. Simple, really fun, would love to see more of it. 

On the plus side, it somehow fits right in Skyrim ( lol). Dialogue is well written, often funny, and utilizes existing characters seamlessly.

The "negatives" ( if that is the word)? I would have liked to see more gradual corruption for Tirwin. So it takes more effort ( or persuasion part on player's end) to convince her into more and more depraved acts. 

I think it could also use some content/interaction in between find book-sex scene-find book, etc..so it feels less straightforward/predictable. Not sure if it falls into intended scope of the mod, but it could involve more interaction with her, learning of her past, Thalmor plot, etc.

 And some more content going forward ( captured by Thalmor, Tirwin's birthday: player buys her a pet troll as present, Werewolf/Werebear, Dragon, etc). I also enjoyed more her "romance arc" with the player, would love to see that expanded.

 

[killer905]

30 minutes ago, Kanerah said:

Weeell, finished the mod. Simple, really fun, would love to see more of it. 

On the plus side, it somehow fits right in Skyrim ( lol). Dialogue is well written, often funny, and utilizes existing characters seamlessly.

The dialogue is mainly written by Gristle, but I personally have flashes of good dialogue too :3

 

30 minutes ago, Kanerah said:

The "negatives" ( if that is the word)? I would have liked to see more gradual corruption for Tirwin. So it takes more effort ( or persuasion part on player's end) to convince her into more and more depraved acts. 

She will see her true self in the next update. Unless you are thinking of something else in terms of ‘more and more depraved acts’?

 

30 minutes ago, Kanerah said:

I think it could also use some content/interaction in between find book-sex scene-find book, etc..so it feels less straightforward/predictable. Not sure if it falls into intended scope of the mod, but it could involve more interaction with her, learning of her past, Thalmor plot, etc.

 And some more content going forward ( captured by Thalmor, Tirwin's birthday: player buys her a pet troll as present, Werewolf/Werebear, Dragon, etc). I also enjoyed more her "romance arc" with the player, would love to see that expanded.

 

In a future update there will be less of this ‘book -> sex -> sex with Tirwin -> next book’.

 

There will be more Thalmor, but probably not in the form you might expect, but there will be a quest related to it.

 

Schit by Thalmor we have on the list, but it will be in the next 2 or so updates (not counting the one that's due soon).

 

If you have no reluctance in Spoilers, I invite you here with the roadmap ^^.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

As for buying a gift for Tirwin, any creature bigger than a dog is out, and she already has a dog. Also feel free to suggest something else ❤️

 

 

We welcome any proposal. Even powerful dialogues for Tirwin related to some task or simply a conversation between PC and Tirwin.

 

Just bear in mind that not every proposal may fit into the overall task/mod outline by autors.

Edited January 17, 2025 by killer905

[Gristle]

25 minutes ago, Kanerah said:

Weeell, finished the mod. Simple, really fun, would love to see more of it. 

On the plus side, it somehow fits right in Skyrim ( lol). Dialogue is well written, often funny, and utilizes existing characters seamlessly.

The "negatives" ( if that is the word)? I would have liked to see more gradual corruption for Tirwin. So it takes more effort ( or persuasion part on player's end) to convince her into more and more depraved acts. 

I think it could also use some content/interaction in between find book-sex scene-find book, etc..so it feels less straightforward/predictable. Not sure if it falls into intended scope of the mod, but it could involve more interaction with her, learning of her past, Thalmor plot, etc.

 And some more content going forward ( captured by Thalmor, Tirwin's birthday: player buys her a pet troll as present, Werewolf/Werebear, Dragon, etc). I also enjoyed more her "romance arc" with the player, would love to see that expanded.

 

Thanks for the feedback and glad you liked it.  Most of the suggestions you mention will be addressed in the next version release, which covers seven books/creatures and a good part of the island of Solstheim. In particular, the Solstheim quests are not quite as straightforward, take you to several new mod-added locations, and introduce (or reintroduce) new NPCs.  The PC also has opportunities to explore what Tirwin likes sexually, and the Thalmor again play a role. There's also a bit more "repeatability" added, but this is something that can be expanded in future versions.

 

I actually thought the mod had a pretty slow buildup already, so I'm somewhat surprised about the "more gradual corruption" comment.  In my mind, Tirwin always intended to practice the knowledge in the books generally, so the development would be more about her reluctance with certain creatures, her growing acceptance that she is not doing this just for scholarly research purposes, her growing acceptance of having sex with creatures in front of other people, her growing relationship with the PC, and the PC's growing knowledge of how to satisfy Tirwin sexually.  In any case, there is more convincing required in the next phase, as many of Solstheim's creatures are not the kind of furry animals that Tirwin had in mind when she started the quest. 

 

But, yes, your suggestions fit right into the intended scope of the mod.

 

 

 

 

[Gristle]

20 minutes ago, killer905 said:

We welcome any proposal. Even powerful dialogues for Tirwin related to some task or simply a conversation between PC and Tirwin.

Apparently we wrote at the same time, but wrote pretty much the same thoughts! 

[killer905]

25 minutes ago, Gristle said:

Apparently we wrote at the same time, but wrote pretty much the same thoughts! 

Right place, right time, huh? :3

Edited January 17, 2025 by killer905

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

Right place, right time, huh? :3

 

Darn you posted the plan... and I could not resist the temptation to peek. 😛 

 

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Hrodulf's House - Reminds me, I wonder how many people even know there is an often overlooked semi-rare item there.

 

It only exists in two places in the game. In Hroduff's and  J'datharr the assassin sent by the Thalmor to kill Malborn carries one in his inventory.

 

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It's just a torch, however it's weightless, has no value in septims and they are also the only two torches in the base game which casts real-time shadows as you move them around.

 

 

Edited January 17, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

3 hours ago, Gristle said:

Thanks for the feedback and glad you liked it.  Most of the suggestions you mention will be addressed in the next version release, which covers seven books/creatures and a good part of the island of Solstheim. In particular, the Solstheim quests are not quite as straightforward, take you to several new mod-added locations, and introduce (or reintroduce) new NPCs.  The PC also has opportunities to explore what Tirwin likes sexually, and the Thalmor again play a role. There's also a bit more "repeatability" added, but this is something that can be expanded in future versions.

 

I actually thought the mod had a pretty slow buildup already, so I'm somewhat surprised about the "more gradual corruption" comment.  In my mind, Tirwin always intended to practice the knowledge in the books generally, so the development would be more about her reluctance with certain creatures, her growing acceptance that she is not doing this just for scholarly research purposes, her growing acceptance of having sex with creatures in front of other people, her growing relationship with the PC, and the PC's growing knowledge of how to satisfy Tirwin sexually.  In any case, there is more convincing required in the next phase, as many of Solstheim's creatures are not the kind of furry animals that Tirwin had in mind when she started the quest. 

 

But, yes, your suggestions fit right into the intended scope of the mod.

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the PC had to encourage her a bit ... maybe not all the time but in a few instances. Now then, some of the questlines do take a turn - go here, go there, get interrupted  - while others do not. 

 

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I don't recall but, the dog quest was it ever fixed? Where it was leaving Ri'ssa'd's dialog for sex on him after the dog quest is complete?

 

 

Edited January 17, 2025 by eflat01