Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Gristle]

6 hours ago, DJShamrock said:

Could we have this also pointed at KS Hairdos SMP? (or even better remove the master?) It is stand a lone but includes physics for all the KS Hairdos and would prefer to use it but missing master issues from this mod won't let me.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31300?tab=description

The next version will put the (non-SMP) KS Hairdos used by the mod in the mod and remove KS Hairdos as a master. 

[killer905]

11 hours ago, DJShamrock said:

Could we have this also pointed at KS Hairdos SMP? (or even better remove the master?) It is stand a lone but includes physics for all the KS Hairdos and would prefer to use it but missing master issues from this mod won't let me.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/31300?tab=description

As a patch possible, but unfortunately the permissions not allow use without asking for use in another mod. Why? Because in practice you have to modify the NIF files so that it does not direct to the KSH files i.e. currently only to the new location used by Animal Research.

 

As Gristle mentioned, the KSH requirement will be removed in the next update.

Edited December 11, 2024 by killer905

[DJShamrock]

14 hours ago, killer905 said:

As a patch possible, but unfortunately the permissions not allow use without asking for use in another mod. Why? Because in practice you have to modify the NIF files so that it does not direct to the KSH files i.e. currently only to the new location used by Animal Research.

 

As Gristle mentioned, the KSH requirement will be removed in the next update.

Since the full KSH is inclided in KSH SMP, this will still conflict then since you will also be adding the full KSH is that right?

[killer905]

23 minutes ago, DJShamrock said:

Since the full KSH is inclided in KSH SMP, this will still conflict then since you will also be adding the full KSH is that right?

It will not have a conflict in any way with the KSH SMP or KSH with Animal Research.

[eflat01]

On 12/11/2024 at 5:41 PM, DJShamrock said:

Since the full KSH is inclided in KSH SMP, this will still conflict then since you will also be adding the full KSH is that right?

 

You kind of lost me... either that or I'm looking at different KS Hair mods than you have.

 

I do not think there's any conflict between KS Hair and KS Hair SMP Although having both will clutter your racemenu hair selections. (I hate scrolling long list but an evil we all suffer, If Sheogorath were making mods he'd make hair and eye mods to drive you mad looking for that one hair model out of a thousand or two?). 

 

One is an esp the other an eslfied esp they actually do not overwrite each other's form IDs, the editor ID's are different too, KS_Sky097 vs KSSMP_Sky097, nor do they overwrite each other's .nifs and dss files. The .nf paths are different data/meshes/KS Hairdo's vs data/meshes/KS Hairdo's/HDT likewise so are the textures in separated paths. also KSSMP has a subset of KS for some darn reason (There's more hair in KS than KSSMP). KSSMP looks better organized but that's likely because it's a later mod and the author was more diligent in keeping it smaller and cleaner especially to make it an eslfied esp.

 

When you build an NPC the hair is refenced by form ID... and the form ID points the .nif file (which in turn points to the dss), shaded by the hair color id you set in ck... in the CK you have to generate the facegen nif. (Unlike the PC which gets generated via racemenu). There are mods out there lets you push a racemenu facegen to an npc. 

 

Many npc mods require prerequisite mods which add hair, skins, etc... and some include the hair nif/dss - either made by the mod author (a lot of work) or borrowed from another mod given permission to include the nif/dss files - the later they generally create a new id's and directories to toss it in.

 

Edited December 26, 2024 by eflat01

[killer905]

An informative post for the next Animal Research update.

 

- 3 quets out of 6/7 (time will tell if there will be 6/7 quets in the next update) have been completed.
- The 4th quest is in the process DEV state.
- Removed KHS requirement.
- Obviously some bug fixes for previous tasks.

 

A few ideas have emerged, but I won't spoiler them for you, as they won't necessarily appear in this update, or if they do, in partial form.

[UsernameTaken666]

Thank you for the update. Happy holidays to you and yours.

[AthenaTheLover]

Good to know about progres.

[eflat01]

On 12/24/2024 at 9:58 PM, killer905 said:

An informative post for the next Animal Research update.

 

- 3 quets out of 6/7 (time will tell if there will be 6/7 quets in the next update) have been completed.
- The 4th quest is in the process DEV state.
- Removed KHS requirement.
- Obviously some bug fixes for previous tasks.

 

A few ideas have emerged, but I won't spoiler them for you, as they won't necessarily appear in this update, or if they do, in partial form.

 

Great news... I always look forward to what you and Gristle create. 

[killer905]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

Great news... I always look forward to what you and Gristle create. 

Baking this cake must take time. In all seriousness, me testing a mod with partially done tasks is prone to getting ideas and even finding bugs or potential things that other players might encounter. It's an interesting adventure it is ;3

[Zurzarzazr]

.... aaaaaaaaaaaand don`t download voice file. Girl keeps yelling all the way. Oh, da headache

[killer905]

3 hours ago, Zurzarzazr said:

.... aaaaaaaaaaaand don`t download voice file. Girl keeps yelling all the way. Oh, da headache

Don't leave your Elf girl all alone!

 

But seriously, you can delete the Voice files

[eflat01]

20 hours ago, Zurzarzazr said:

.... aaaaaaaaaaaand don`t download voice file. Girl keeps yelling all the way. Oh, da headache

What, Why are you running off ahead?

 

... now to interject some mundane tired overused ancient words of advised. 😛

 

 

How do you make a hormone?

 

Spoiler

Don't pay her.

 

 

Edited December 29, 2024 by eflat01

[killer905]

If anyone has any dialogue suggestions for Tirwin depending on the situation, please share them.

[eflat01]

18 hours ago, killer905 said:

If anyone has any dialogue suggestions for Tirwin depending on the situation, please share them.

 

Just general dialog or any specifics? 

 

Like:

Spoiler

Like if the PC goes running off too far ahead.

 

Tirwin:  Slow down please, I'm slightly sore from f...ng that ____, though worth it. 

 

Can do that based on the last completed quest.

 

She might say things randomly based on a lot of things like PC race, stats, etc...

 

Tirwin: Thalmor warned us of silly things, they said don't fraternize with Bosmer gals, Is a reason they're called wood-elves and that may rub off on us .

 

Tirwin: I'd heard sometimes Nord women sleep with their dogs at night to keep warm, or is it something else? 

 

Tirwin: You're so tough and strong, bet you'd no trouble doing it with a giant, you'd likely say it's the best you'd ever had.

 

A reason I asked about specifics is I'd imagine she'd be more encouraging to a PC who encourages her into actions. 

 

Spoiler

Loosely...

 

Tirwin: You should be a naughty, knotty girl too, Try it, it's just so unbelievably satisfying to get boned by a dog,  

 

Something like that can be controlled a bit off of variables flagged when the player had done anything with any other creature at all before while questing with her...

 

On another note I hope her form id does not change in the next release, though easy enough to fix.

 

; added Tirwin
Outfit = MAGECORETirwinOutfit|ActorTypeNPC|0xFB09|NONE|F|NONE|100

 

I Spid her a magecore outfit.

Edited January 4, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

Just general dialog or any specifics? 

 

Like:

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Like if the PC goes running off too far ahead.

 

Tirwin:  Slow down please, I'm slightly sore from f...ng that ____, though worth it. 

 

Can do that based on the last completed quest.

 

She might say things randomly based on a lot of things like PC race, stats, etc...

 

Tirwin: Thalmor warned us of silly things, they said don't fraternize with Bosmer gals, Is a reason they're called wood-elves and that may rub off on us .

 

Tirwin: I'd heard sometimes Nord women sleep with their dogs at night to keep warm, or is it something else? 

 

Tirwin: You're so tough and strong, bet you'd no trouble doing it with a giant, you'd likely say it's the best you'd ever had.

 

A reason I asked about specifics is I'd imagine she'd be more encouraging to a PC who encourages her into actions. 

 

  Hide contents

Loosely...

 

Tirwin: You should be a naughty, knotty girl too, Try it, it's just so unbelievably satisfying to get boned by a dog,  

 

Something like that can be controlled a bit off of variables flagged when the player had done anything with any other creature at all before while questing with her...

Both. There may even be comments based on completed tasks from the mod. For example, we completed the wolf quest "I wonder what happens to the wolf we saved...".

 

Or even completed quests from Vanilia or DLC.

 

After quest "The Break of Dawn"
"A new hand touches the beacon..." What? It was interesting in its own way.

 

General:
In Skyrim, a lot of guards complain about getting an arrow in the knee. Hmm, or maybe there's some other meaning in that?

 

Even a suggestion that she comment on the fact that PC has never once tried creture sex (This would only make sense for female PCs, but males will fit in too )

 

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

On another note I hope her form id does not change in the next release, though easy enough to fix.

 

; added Tirwin
Outfit = MAGECORETirwinOutfit|ActorTypeNPC|0xFB09|NONE|F|NONE|100

 

I Spid her a magecore outfit.

I don't think her ID will change, but who knows....

Show us what she's wearing there ;3

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

Both. There may even be comments based on completed tasks from the mod. For example, we completed the wolf quest "I wonder what happens to the wolf we saved...".

 

Or even completed quests from Vanilia or DLC.

 

After quest "The Break of Dawn"
"A new hand touches the beacon..." What? It was interesting in its own way.

 

General:
In Skyrim, a lot of guards complain about getting an arrow in the knee. Hmm, or maybe there's some other meaning in that?

 

Even a suggestion that she comment on the fact that PC has never once tried creture sex (This would only make sense for female PCs, but males will fit in too )

 

I don't think her ID will change, but who knows....

Show us what she's wearing there ;3

 

That will be great and yes, it's pretty straight forward to use flags and quest stages to enable dialog options and even chatter.  

 

var_PcCreatureSex = 0

 

Tirwin: "It's really hard for me to do this with you here, you may not understand and judge me."

 

You can also make her as aware as you like... Finish a vanilla quest she can even bring it up again from time to time.

 

i.e. Take Serana, she's always spouting off about the Vale and Glade where the moths are ever since she was there... and with SDA in the mix she's more interesting, mentions places you are now like Solsthiem and starts conversations with other npcs i.e. Yosolda etc... That's a reason to keep Serana as a follower even after Dawnguard was completed.

 

Quests finish but an npc within a mod which is aware outside of the mod makes that mod more integrated and a staple.

 

Edited January 4, 2025 by eflat01

[leking]

Dialogues/lines suggestions:

 

I would suggest some kind of multiple commenting dialogues during sex scenes with the player.

 

For example if the player is having sex with a horse she could say something like "oh. you are taking that horse cock like a good whore" or "come on stalion breed that slut" ; "you really like to be fucked like a bitch" "come one boys breed that bitch" when the player is having action with dogs/canine.

 

would be  good to make different comments like that to avoid her saying always the same one if the player is having multiple action with the same type of partner.

 

I really like the fact she says "thank you i needed that" after you sent her in action. Maybe make more lines for this situation. Maybe recognising animal "Damn i love horse cocks".

 

Why not : "Could we stop to a kennel/stable ? i 'd like to fuck a dog/horse"

 

If the voiced pack follow with the same current excellent quality it would be amazing.

 

Gameplay suggestions: 

 

-integrate "fill her up " and ask her to "deflate" the cum on command to get you cum ingredients. 

 

-More generaly having access to her inventory At the beginning of the quest would be nice to.

 

Really happy for the news. Awaiting your updates

[killer905]

14 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

That will be great and yes, it's pretty straight forward to use flags and quest stages to enable dialog options and even chatter.  

 

var_PcCreatureSex = 0

 

Tirwin: "It's really hard for me to do this with you here, you may not understand and judge me."

 

You can also make her as aware as you like... Finish a vanilla quest she can even bring it up again from time to time.

 

i.e. Take Serana, she's always spouting off about the Vale and Glade where the moths are ever since she was there... and with SDA in the mix she's more interesting, mentions places you are now like Solsthiem and starts conversations with other npcs i.e. Yosolda etc... That's a reason to keep Serana as a follower even after Dawnguard was completed.

 

Quests finish but an npc within a mod which is aware outside of the mod makes that mod more integrated and a staple.

 

We are unlikely to go in the direction of having Tirwin carry on a conversation with other NPCs from Vanilia like the SDA similarly, but who knows maybe we will be tempted to have a couple of such Tirwin interactions with other NPCs.

28 minutes ago, leking said:

Dialogues/lines suggestions:

 

I would suggest some kind of multiple commenting dialogues during sex scenes with the player.

 

For example if the player is having sex with a horse she could say something like "oh. you are taking that horse cock like a good whore" or "come on stalion breed that slut" ; "you really like to be fucked like a bitch" "come one boys breed that bitch" when the player is having action with dogs/canine.

 

would be  good to make different comments like that to avoid her saying always the same one if the player is having multiple action with the same type of partner.

 

I really like the fact she says "thank you i needed that" after you sent her in action. Maybe make more lines for this situation. Maybe recognising animal "Damn i love horse cocks".

 

Why not : "Could we stop to a kennel/stable ? i 'd like to fuck a dog/horse"

 

If the voiced pack follow with the same current excellent quality it would be amazing.

 

Gameplay suggestions: 

 

-integrate "fill her up " and ask her to "deflate" the cum on command to get you cum ingredients. 

 

-More generaly having access to her inventory At the beginning of the quest would be nice to.

 

Really happy for the news. Awaiting your updates

Something like this.

 

Tirwin has his own dog also does not need to look for another. As for going to the stables, that is rather out of the question, as Tirwin, however, prefers to avoid doing what he does near towns. (Well with a horse she had no choice and that got a bit of revenge on her).

I'm sure you can have a look at her EQ, but I might be confused with the DEV version of the next update

 

Personally, I have not used ‘Fill her up’, but a matter to ponder.

 

Edit: 

In truth, the books teach how to collect beast cum.

 

[leking]

Maybe a small mechanic were she detect there is only you and an animal

 

(and maybe only the npcs  included in the quest that clearly says they are animal lovers too cause they will keep it secret )

 

so no potential "witnesses" and suggest to have action with the animals because she feel "safe" at the moment.

 

Imagine if you have your own castle outside of town it woud  make sense she ask to visit the stable/kennel of the castle because she trust you.

 

But yeah any lewd comment around the player taking action with different animals would give the mod even more life   I just hope the one who made the amazing voice will follow too cause i love the voice he made for her  

[killer905]

39 minutes ago, leking said:

Maybe a small mechanic were she detect there is only you and an animal

 

(and maybe only the npcs  included in the quest that clearly says they are animal lovers too cause they will keep it secret )

 

so no potential "witnesses" and suggest to have action with the animals because she feel "safe" at the moment.

 

Imagine if you have your own castle outside of town it woud  make sense she ask to visit the stable/kennel of the castle because she trust you.

 

But yeah any lewd comment around the player taking action with different animals would give the mod even more life   I just hope the one who made the amazing voice will follow too cause i love the voice he made for her  

We see.

 

There are comments from Tirwin about how PC has sex with animals, but they aren't particularly lewd. 

You mean this? :

The fact is they are of good quality, but time will tell if at the end of support (i.e. completion of the entire mod) they will not be replaced by this Voice version.

 

[leking]

10 hours ago, killer905 said:

We see.

 

There are comments from Tirwin about how PC has sex with animals, but they aren't particularly lewd. 

You mean this? :

The fact is they are of good quality, but time will tell if at the end of support (i.e. completion of the entire mod) they will not be replaced by this Voice version.

 

Yes i mean this one.

 

The voice is really good in my opinion cause the tone matches her personality perfectly. I hope the author will keep supporting it

[Danny2142]

love the mod, but im currently stuck with double trouble. I just cant find the book in the dungeon and there is no marker.. Can someone help?

[eflat01]

39 minutes ago, Danny2142 said:

love the mod, but im currently stuck with double trouble. I just cant find the book in the dungeon and there is no marker.. Can someone help?

Spoiler

Hillgrund's Tomb Look for this table near an urn...

 

 

 

In this section

 

Edited January 6, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

19 hours ago, killer905 said:

We see.

 

There are comments from Tirwin about how PC has sex with animals, but they aren't particularly lewd. 

You mean this? :

The fact is they are of good quality, but time will tell if at the end of support (i.e. completion of the entire mod) they will not be replaced by this Voice version.

 

 

I trust you and Gristle to be creative.

 

While I do prefer lewd - if not outright dirty but not too raunchy - language in a mod when it actually applies. I particularly like how Gristle often comes up with lore-friendly related terms to create a slang i.e. "wet skeever", etc... in the mod SLSFC when referring to female genitalia.

 

Edited January 6, 2025 by eflat01