Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Gristle]

13 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Second sex scene not started. Also Trolls with agro? Hmm, hmm only yopu can now is setstage 90 and kill all

Replying to killer905 because I have to rush. The PC and Tirwin are put into the 'troll' faction in the cave (so the trolls don't aggro). Any other followers will not be put into the troll faction and they will aggro the trolls. 

 

If, after the "are you ready" conversation with the PC, Tirwin walks across the cave past the tree, that's Sexlab moving her to the designated "sex spot". So, that means the Sexlab function has been called, and it has identified Tirwin as one of the actors. So, if the troll sex scene then doesn't start, that means something is interfering with Sexlab, or Sexlab isn't finding the sex partner (troll) or suitable animations. 

 

I won't be able to provide any code support during the next 10 days. In the meantime, players will have to use setstage as killer905 indicated to skip this scene if it's not working. It is working for killer905 and me, however, so it is likely a conflict of some kind. Or maybe P+ related?

 

As for the other suggestions, they all sound good, but are likely to be things added at the end of the quest.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Are you trolling people? 😉

 

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

CK or SeEdit to double-check,

I do not know how to use either of those, as for the help var_  I did not know the var_ part, thanks for the humor and trying to teach this old fart something new! 

 

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

Hmm, hmm only yopu can now is setstage 90 and kill all

Setstage 90 them, then had fun with Tirwin, then the threesome, but the bear would not do anything for any of the three women.  

I tell you it is that cave it does not like me!  

The next quest went just like all before the trolls, smooth as silk.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, Raven 54 said:

Setstage 90 them, then had fun with Tirwin, then the threesome, but the bear would not do anything for any of the three women.  

I tell you it is that cave it does not like me!  

The next quest went just like all before the trolls, smooth as silk.

Mr. Bear can only with one person at one time, so will you not get FFC or FFFC 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

Mr. Bear can only with one person at one time, so will you not get FFC or FFFC 

I know there are now animations for what you say, I was referring to one at a time for three different women, try back up to save try, rinse and repeat.

He just would not work in my game, I deleted a bunch of mods to start a new run, so things should be different.

[J377yC1971]

Every save I have where I met Tirwin,(and told her to wait) has not been able to get past the first book. We go through the  dungeon and get the first  book and I'm told to talk to her but then there is no option to proceed., What is the setstage for the first book. I know it will send me to Whiterun

[eflat01]

11 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

 

I do not know how to use either of those, as for the help var_  I did not know the var_ part, thanks for the humor and trying to teach this old fart something new! 

 

Setstage 90 them, then had fun with Tirwin, then the threesome, but the bear would not do anything for any of the three women.  

I tell you it is that cave it does not like me!  

The next quest went just like all before the trolls, smooth as silk.

 

I've yet to play through the var_troll quest.

 

I will note that the troll looks like it's in agro mode in the second pics. It's marked red in the hud. Have any summoned or other followers along, outside?

 

I remember back on the previous version during the var_bear quest the troll which is normally in the cave (although marked clear) respawned due I cleared the cave so long ago,  So, I had to kill the new spawned troll before it attacked the bear or Tirwin.  

 

I think Gristle may have hit the nail on the head pointing out SL kicked in and can't find the actor and that may be that the actor it's picking is agro'd on something? 

 

Sometimes mods will conflict with one another too...

 

Sometimes it's funny though. 

 

Random NPC's walk thru Hjerim TNF Beds Plus to use the bath (the mod put it out the back door - they must scan the idle markers) especially Hilevi Cruel-Sea, sit down at the table and she'll usually walk through....

 

I've Body Search - so guards will walk into TNF Breezehome while the DB's about to go to bed. The DB could have been home for thirty minutes and they'll walk right in.

 

"Come with me, you must submit to a body search"

"I'm the jarl's thane"

"A thane stay's close to home, you look more like a vagabond."

"(Persuade) Do I have to?"

"We're in control here, now come along."

 

Since I installed SL aroused creatures,  set on low rate and there are very particular specific creatures the DB can't walk by. Is one particular horse at Dragon Bridge, that one goat at Narzublbur and the cow of all things at Windstad.

 

Florentius in dawnguard said:

"Go see Gunnar, he has something for you."

so the DB walks over to him talk

Gunner says "Good to see you." as she's walking up...

and gets accosted by that one armored Troll. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2024 by eflat01

[OsmelMC]

Seems that require at less the version 1.9 of KS Hairdos for the Sprite style. I will have to update my KS Hairdos before try this mod!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

 

I've yet to play through the var_troll quest.

 

I will note that the troll looks like it's in agro mode in the second pics. It's marked red in the hud. Have any summoned or other followers along, outside?

 

I remember back on the previous version during the var_bear quest the troll which is normally in the cave (although marked clear) respawned due I cleared the cave so long ago,  So, I had to kill the new spawned troll before it attacked the bear or Tirwin.  

 

I think Gristle may have hit the nail on the head pointing out SL kicked in and can't find the actor and that may be that the actor it's picking is agro'd on something? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know much, look at my signature. 

Get in the cave, no followers, dog dismissed, Tirwin would run up to the spot and the trolls would be Aggro before dropping down, sometimes they would not be aggro and Tirwin would say "Oh no you don't", one would have a hard on the other would not, then if they were not aggro they would stand or walk around till they went aggro, and it was usually just one who got pissy, not both at the same time.

7 hours I kept backing to the previous tomb where that book was and traveling to Whiterun, then the cave, I apologize if my frustration rubbed off in my posts.

All the other quest were smooth and ran well, that freaking cave does not like me!

[killer905]

9 hours ago, J377yC1971 said:

Every save I have where I met Tirwin,(and told her to wait) has not been able to get past the first book. We go through the  dungeon and get the first  book and I'm told to talk to her but then there is no option to proceed., What is the setstage for the first book. I know it will send me to Whiterun

Why you told ger wait? Take her with you

 

Nothing is better than two women traversing dangerous locations. Well, unless you're playing a guy

 

The quests are designed in such a way that she should be with you. 

5 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Seems that require at less the version 1.9 of KS Hairdos for the Sprite style. I will have to update my KS Hairdos before try this mod!

A new mod, it's highly likely to require a minimum of the latest version :3

 

4 hours ago, Raven 54 said:

I don't know much, look at my signature. 

Get in the cave, no followers, dog dismissed, Tirwin would run up to the spot and the trolls would be Aggro before dropping down, sometimes they would not be aggro and Tirwin would say "Oh no you don't", one would have a hard on the other would not, then if they were not aggro they would stand or walk around till they went aggro, and it was usually just one who got pissy, not both at the same time.

7 hours I kept backing to the previous tomb where that book was and traveling to Whiterun, then the cave, I apologize if my frustration rubbed off in my posts.

All the other quest were smooth and ran well, that freaking cave does not like me!

Ria chose a cursed cave for Mr. Bear ;(

[eflat01]

@killer905 

 

I have not picked up and started playing the new quests in this release, I replaced the previous version - where I had Tirwin waiting in the Bannered Mare along with Ragnar all this time until the next quests were available. 

 

Anyway, just some notes after the version swap from  ver 0.164 to ver 0.22 

 

When I walked in the Banner Mare Tirwin and Ragnar were nowhere to be found, Naryu Virian was still there as usual so I knew they both were at least in the Load Order.... 

 

1. First inclination was to do a prid on her, but remembered there's a conjuration spell for her, so, used that.

    a. Tirwin and Ragnar appeared wo a hitch and looked like in the same state (waiting on me to come back to proceed )

    b. Serana and the PC left and stopped off at Breezehome and for some reason Tirwin and Ragnar followed them in shortly after while the PC was putting  stuff away in the basement.

    c. So, had a talk with Tirwin to "come along" then "dismiss her" again and she went back to the Bannered Mare with no issues.

 

 

Edited September 11, 2024 by eflat01

[killer905]

22 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

@killer905 

 

I have not picked up and started playing the new quests in this release, I replaced the previous version - where I had Tirwin waiting in the Bannered Mare along with Ragnar all this time until the next quests were available. 

 

Anyway, just some notes after the version swap from  ver 0.164 to ver 0.22 

 

When I walked in the Banner Mare Tirwin and Ragnar were nowhere to be found, Naryu Virian was still there as usual so I knew they both were at least in the Load Order.... 

 

1. First inclination was to do a prid on her, but remembered there's a conjuration spell for her, so, used that.

    a. Tirwin and Ragnar appeared wo a hitch and looked like in the same state (waiting on me to come back to proceed )

    b. Serana and the PC left and stopped off at Breezehome and for some reason Tirwin and Ragnar followed them in shortly after while the PC was putting  stuff away in the basement.

    c. So, had a talk with Tirwin to "come along" then "dismiss her" again and she went back to the Bannered Mare with no issues.

 

 

I think it only disappeared because it was changed from 2 NPCs (long hair and short hair) to 1 NPC, with long hair but normally having a wig with short hair.

But here @Gristle would give more information, but unfortunately he is not currently available.

[eflat01]

11 minutes ago, killer905 said:

I think it only disappeared because it was changed from 2 NPCs (long hair and short hair) to 1 NPC, with long hair but normally having a wig with short hair.

But here @Gristle would give more information, but unfortunately he is not currently available.

 

I'm sure that's what it was... she was probably hanging around the Bannered Mare as one form id, and when swapped should had been the other... 

 

I just wanted you both to know is easy to get around it if someone else asks.

[killer905]

9 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

I'm sure that's what it was... she was probably hanging around the Bannered Mare as one form id, and when swapped should had been the other... 

 

I just wanted you both to know is easy to get around it if someone else asks.

:3 ok

[eflat01]

Great mod!

 

I finally got around to playing through ver. .22. I did each quest a number of time and it works well. I went through each of the new quest three or four times - reloading saves from right after getting each book.  To toy with dialog, etc.., and try to force any issues I'd seen pop up here.  

 

There was a hicup once when playing through The Peace Offering, Tirwin ran away coward due agro from a mammoth (the second mammoth in the area) but I think it was initially caused by some other mod or outside scenario interfering.

 

There were a couple other hicups but I know for sure they were due to Creatures Aroused. 1. the PC got raped by that female elk once of all things, 2. Ragnar also raped the PC at the farm in the Reach once... and Snowflake seems to love the pc best. Is probably best to turn that mod off with this mod, I did not though because I wanted to see how solid the mod is. 

 

 

[killer905]

10 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

Great mod!

 

I finally got around to playing through ver. .22. I did each quest a number of time and it works well. I went through each of the new quest three or four times - reloading saves from right after getting each book.  To toy with dialog, etc.., and try to force any issues I'd seen pop up here.  

 

There was a hicup once when playing through The Peace Offering, Tirwin ran away coward due agro from a mammoth (the second mammoth in the area) but I think it was initially caused by some other mod or outside scenario interfering.

 

There were a couple other hicups but I know for sure they were due to Creatures Aroused. 1. the PC got raped by that female elk once of all things, 2. Ragnar also raped the PC at the farm in the Reach once... and Snowflake seems to love the pc best. Is probably best to turn that mod off with this mod, I did not though because I wanted to see how solid the mod is. 

 

 

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Can you believe it? Problems! In your mords! What are you going to do?

In all seriousness, this is important information, but unfortunately we have to wait for @Gristle

[Unfrog12]

Also just finished playing through the latest version. Everything worked fine, except for the same thing eflat01 reported, mammoth aggro to Tirwin/Ragnar wile my PC was engaged with the giant. It ceased when my PC finished with the giant. Oddly, after finishing the quest line, Tirwin doesn't want to wear clothes any more. I'm not objecting, mind...I just thought it somewhat odd.

 

Oh, and Tirwin is quite fussy about where she'll engage Ragnar, she won't do it in Breezehome, for example. This may be by design, I dunno. Might be fun to corrupt her into doing it publicly.😁

 

 

 

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

In all seriousness, this is important information, but unfortunately we have to wait for @Gristle

 

I'm just letting you know your mod is pretty solid... any strange things which happened during play were due some other mod - which btw would mess with any other mod.  The troll /bear encounter went without a hitch every time and I hammered it, was really trying to break it. All I could think of is for people where that hung up is they may not have had any troll animations?

 

The mammoth agro I think may had been due my game is pretty darn populated and so it's not unusual random encounters in open areas may occur. 

 

Edited September 14, 2024 by eflat01

[eflat01]

52 minutes ago, Unfrog12 said:

Also just finished playing through the latest version. Everything worked fine, except for the same thing eflat01 reported, mammoth aggro to Tirwin/Ragnar wile my PC was engaged with the giant. It ceased when my PC finished with the giant. Oddly, after finishing the quest line, Tirwin doesn't want to wear clothes any more. I'm not objecting, mind...I just thought it somewhat odd.

 

Oh, and Tirwin is quite fussy about where she'll engage Ragnar, she won't do it in Breezehome, for example. This may be by design, I dunno. Might be fun to corrupt her into doing it publicly.😁

 

 

 

 

May be a spoiler but I think she stays undressed until she walks down and washes in the creek... and I got her to do that by talking to her (asking her for sex, after I exhausted all the other topics about the giant and mammoth).  I must had repeated all the new quests four to eight times just to hammer the crap out of it, well I guess Tirwin and the PC were being hammered 😛 but you know what I mean, trying to break it.

 

As for Breezehome? (I've TNF Breezehome plus beds) and I'm beginning to think it's a public area... my PC can be up in bed and a Whiterun guard will walk in the front door then up the stairs and order the PC to have a body search.  🙂 Hjerim must be too, npc's from the market are always walking in there to use the bath. 

 

I have a quite a bit in this load order... The PC got pulled for a body search when walking from the stables to the farm, so ended up in the Markart guard barracks for that ... Rarely go to Markart these days and since I have SLSFC, and forgot I dressed the PC after the search before walking out the barracks she got a bounty and detained again (She was mandated long ago by the Jarl to be naked in public). 

 

Edited September 14, 2024 by eflat01

[Unfrog12]

5 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

May be a spoiler but I think she stays undressed until she washes in the creek... and I got her to do that by talking to her (asking her for sex, after exhausting the other topics with the giant and mammoth). 

 

As for Breezehome? (TNF Breezehome plus beds) and I'm beginning to think it's a public area... my PC can be up in bed and a Whiterun guard will walk in the front door then up the stairs and order the PC to have a body search.  🙂

 

She did wash in the creek...it was after we returned to Whiterun that she got naked and stayed that way. Maybe because I married her? Eh, it's not important, really.  She gets a lot of interesting comments running around in Whiterun starkers, that's for certain.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

 

I'm just letting you know your mod is pretty solid... any strange things which happened during play were due some other mod - which btw would mess with any other mod.  The troll /bear encounter went without a hitch every time and I hammered it, was really trying to break it. All I could think of is for people where that hung up is they may not have had any troll animations?

 

The mammoth agro I think may had been due my game is pretty darn populated and so it's not unusual random encounters in open areas may occur. 

 

It is good that you are reporting! At least you know what needs to be improved and what is the fault of another mod.

 

1 hour ago, Unfrog12 said:

 

She did wash in the creek...it was after we returned to Whiterun that she got naked and stayed that way. Maybe because I married her? Eh, it's not important, really.  She gets a lot of interesting comments running around in Whiterun starkers, that's for certain.

Huh? Are married Tirwin? 😧

[Unfrog12]

58 minutes ago, killer905 said:

 

Huh? Are married Tirwin? 😧

 

Aye. my female PC married her through SLSF, bought a couple of rings and the option was there. I set the relationship to 'PC likes to share' and she happily spreads her legs for anyone who asks. I do have NFF installed, but I have not imported Tirwin.

 

Gonna see if she'll whore next, through TDF Enhanced Prositution.😉

[killer905]

3 minutes ago, Unfrog12 said:

 

Aye. my female PC married her through SLSF, bought a couple of rings and the option was there. I set the relationship to 'PC likes to share' and she happily spreads her legs for anyone who asks. I do have NFF installed, but I have not imported Tirwin.

 

Gonna see if she'll whore next, through TDF Enhanced Prositution.😉

<Gasp> Tirwin the Whore

[Infec7edDragon]

plans for part 3 ? pwp

[killer905]

1 hour ago, Infec7edDragon said:

plans for part 3 ? pwp

Plans: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0
When. It's never worth asking. But I think once a month is enough.

[Infec7edDragon]

15 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Plans: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0
When. It's never worth asking. But I think once a month is enough.

thanks, didnt know there was a roadmap for it