Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Gristle]

7 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Anyway you do really nice work, One thing I can say is "don't pick up the key before going to the cage." (not sure why order would matter).

Thanks, and good point about the order on the cage and key. I'll take a look at that. I believe you are correct. If you already have the key, you'd probably have to drop it and pick it up again after approaching the cage to advance the quest.

[KentuckyExpat]

20 hours ago, Gristle said:

Random animals approaching the PC and Tirwin requires a lot more programming overhead - to detect the animals and deal with the fact they might be aggressive, etc. I think this is best left to mods like Aroused Creatures. However, Tirwin can certainly be given comments about such encounters by the PC.  

 

There is an Oblivion mod, "Lover's Bitch" where the PC (female, of course) learns how to train a dog by having sex with it. Once the PC learns the necessary technique she is able to have sex with any random dog/wolf in the game, no dialogue needed, she just assumes a pose, naked, on her hands and knees. I have no idea how much programming effort is necessary to allow this behavior. If you're interested though, you might check it out. The mod is here on LoversLab,

 

[sillyyiffybilly]

elf wont fuck wolf. just stares it walked behind wagon nothing happens cant really force her somethings stuck idk

[Gristle]

17 hours ago, sillyyiffybilly said:

elf wont fuck wolf. just stares it walked behind wagon nothing happens cant really force her somethings stuck idk

I would try reloading a save and trying it again. Could be just a random glitch. Strange things can also happen if an aggressive animal walks nearby. Also, I would turn off anything that can control animals, like Aroused Creatures.

[sillyyiffybilly]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

I would try reloading a save and trying it again. Could be just a random glitch. Strange things can also happen if an aggressive animal walks nearby. Also, I would turn off anything that can control animals, like Aroused Creatures.

okay so i figured it out and was 100% my fault i didnt set up creature animations in sexlab. sorry for wasting your time mb

[chassa]

just finished playing this through the available quests...had no errors or ctds, slight hiccup at the wolf quest when the key i picked up hadn't registered as in my inventory and the cage door was opened but not registering in the storyline as opened.

 

i put the key back on the bandit then picked it up again, got the quest advanced. the generated voice lines were a first for me and done really well! the npc has personality and im already attached to her. i am thoroughly enjoying the prospect of this mod's continuation, the writing is great, thanks for it!

[killer905]

9 hours ago, chassa said:

just finished playing this through the available quests...had no errors or ctds, slight hiccup at the wolf quest when the key i picked up hadn't registered as in my inventory and the cage door was opened but not registering in the storyline as opened.

 

i put the key back on the bandit then picked it up again, got the quest advanced. the generated voice lines were a first for me and done really well! the npc has personality and im already attached to her. i am thoroughly enjoying the prospect of this mod's continuation, the writing is great, thanks for it!

Nice. What is your opinion of the book covers, the pictures in it and the content?

[chassa]

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Nice. What is your opinion of the book covers, the pictures in it and the content?

 

sorry if this gets wordy, i had absolutely no expectation of a response, let alone so quickly. 🤪

 

I think they're very well done! At some points I noticed there was a weird clipping between Tirwin's hand and the book (at the Khajiit interaction) - like the hand and book as one were flapping a bit - but i think i may have just spoken to her too soon and messed with the animation somehow.

 

i will say there is a misspelling of "researches" where i think you meant "researchers" i think on the first page of each one. btw, having each book follow a template that has natural variation based on the subject was a great way to make them realistically part of a collective, nice job.

 

i appreciated how the covers were lore-friendly, same with the style of the pictures.

 

also, the varying responses to tirwin's questions are a very nice roleplaying touch: i enjoyed having the choice to be reassuring, or just plain incorrigible. was it intended for the PC's furthering the questline to ALSO find themselves...uh...discovering themselves? cuz it kinda seemed that way as it went on and that was another nice touch.

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i do hope eventually we are able to give tirwin an orgasm on our own; not necessary but i am wildly curious to see how it might build up and then transcend to OTHER things. like, damn, things might get wild enough that dibella herself might start sweatin 😂

 

 

may i ask what other creatures may be on the list? traditional animals, monsters, possibly even dremora or certain daedra? at one point, may tirwin discover all of the available books (all trad animals?) but then decide to go further and push onto more...unusual subjects? bc SURELY the college won't be able to turn her away if she EXCEEDS her original mandate? 😉

i have never written a mod or a questline so i dont know how much work is involved but i respect that it IS work and bc it's been so well done so far, likely very involved and not for the faint of heart. im just so curious and intrigued by this one's current concept and potential.

 

also, ragnar is adorable.

[Gristle]

11 hours ago, chassa said:

just finished playing this through the available quests...had no errors or ctds, slight hiccup at the wolf quest when the key i picked up hadn't registered as in my inventory and the cage door was opened but not registering in the storyline as opened.

Thanks for the bug reports. Glad you liked the mod. We'll fix so that the order of obtaining the key and approaching the gate doesn't matter.

1 hour ago, chassa said:

At some points I noticed there was a weird clipping between Tirwin's hand and the book (at the Khajiit interaction) - like the hand and book as one were flapping a bit - but i think i may have just spoken to her too soon and messed with the animation somehow.

Not sure this one can be fixed, as it's a standard book reading animation. I have noticed that sometimes she walks off with the book still in her hand. It's still open and thus oddly clipped in her hand, but I actually thought it was a nice random touch that she sometimes carries the book, despite the odd grip.

1 hour ago, chassa said:

i will say there is a misspelling of "researches" where i think you meant "researchers" i think on the first page of each one.

Thanks. Will fix.

1 hour ago, chassa said:

 

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i do hope eventually we are able to give tirwin an orgasm on our own; not necessary but i am wildly curious to see how it might build up and then transcend to OTHER things. like, damn, things might get wild enough that dibella herself might start sweatin 😂

 

 

As for your spoiler question: yes, you will be able to. The PC will eventually figure out what Tirwin needs.

1 hour ago, chassa said:

may i ask what other creatures may be on the list? traditional animals, monsters, possibly even dremora or certain daedra? at one point, may tirwin discover all of the available books (all trad animals?) but then decide to go further and push onto more...unusual subjects? bc SURELY the college won't be able to turn her away if she EXCEEDS her original mandate?

Some more traditional animals, but yes also eventually monsters. A trip to Solstheim is also planned. 

[eflat01]

On 8/4/2024 at 4:22 PM, Gristle said:

I would try reloading a save and trying it again. Could be just a random glitch. Strange things can also happen if an aggressive animal walks nearby. Also, I would turn off anything that can control animals, like Aroused Creatures.

I have Aroused Creatures, seems to work fine with this... but then again I've only ever had seen one creature ever aroused once by that mod and that was the horse you added at Whiterun in the SLSF Comments mod. Silly thing chased the pc halfway to Riften. (btw... I noticed Aroused Creatures added dialog prompt to all those creature npc's in your comment mod too.) 

 

I had no errors on two playthroughs, the only issue I had was picking up that key first - which I suppose is due condition order? - I put it back in the chest then picked it up again. I don't know if it's using stages.  

Edited August 7, 2024 by eflat01

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, chassa said:

 

sorry if this gets wordy, i had absolutely no expectation of a response, let alone so quickly. 🤪

 

I think they're very well done! At some points I noticed there was a weird clipping between Tirwin's hand and the book (at the Khajiit interaction) - like the hand and book as one were flapping a bit - but i think i may have just spoken to her too soon and messed with the animation somehow.

 

i will say there is a misspelling of "researches" where i think you meant "researchers" i think on the first page of each one. btw, having each book follow a template that has natural variation based on the subject was a great way to make them realistically part of a collective, nice job.

 

i appreciated how the covers were lore-friendly, same with the style of the pictures.

 

also, the varying responses to tirwin's questions are a very nice roleplaying touch: i enjoyed having the choice to be reassuring, or just plain incorrigible. was it intended for the PC's furthering the questline to ALSO find themselves...uh...discovering themselves? cuz it kinda seemed that way as it went on and that was another nice touch.

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i do hope eventually we are able to give tirwin an orgasm on our own; not necessary but i am wildly curious to see how it might build up and then transcend to OTHER things. like, damn, things might get wild enough that dibella herself might start sweatin 😂

 

 

may i ask what other creatures may be on the list? traditional animals, monsters, possibly even dremora or certain daedra? at one point, may tirwin discover all of the available books (all trad animals?) but then decide to go further and push onto more...unusual subjects? bc SURELY the college won't be able to turn her away if she EXCEEDS her original mandate? 😉

i have never written a mod or a questline so i dont know how much work is involved but i respect that it IS work and bc it's been so well done so far, likely very involved and not for the faint of heart. im just so curious and intrigued by this one's current concept and potential.

 

also, ragnar is adorable.

 

Do not know where the story is headed - do not want to know.  As to the orgasm question? If I were designing the mod I'd make that conditional ... based upon the PC's personal in-depth experience with the subject Tirwin's researching. 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2024 by eflat01

[killer905]

3 hours ago, chassa said:

may i ask what other creatures may be on the list? traditional animals, monsters, possibly even dremora or certain daedra? at one point, may tirwin discover all of the available books (all trad animals?) but then decide to go further and push onto more...unusual subjects? bc SURELY the college won't be able to turn her away if she EXCEEDS her original mandate? 😉

i have never written a mod or a questline so i dont know how much work is involved but i respect that it IS work and bc it's been so well done so far, likely very involved and not for the faint of heart. im just so curious and intrigued by this one's current concept and potential.

 

also, ragnar is adorable.

If you are not afraid of spoilers, you can find them here ->https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

 

 

[chassa]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

If you are not afraid of spoilers, you can find them here ->https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

 

 

HOLY SHIT I AM SO STOKED OMG aksljdlajdsajdksakldjasljksljsaklj!!!! Also that 2nd actor in the final pack in column G...effing awesome, ive tried to look for other ones that include them without luck.

 

holy crap, thanks yall! 🌻🌻🌻🌻

Edited August 7, 2024 by chassa

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Do not know where the story is headed - do not want to know.  As to the orgasm question? If I were designing the mod I'd make that conditional ... based upon the PC's personal in-depth experience with the subject Tirwin's researching. 

That's logical, but one purpose of this mod is to also work for male PCs, including those who do not themselves wish to engage with creatures. Or maybe they would, but really can't because practically there are no animations. Either way, there's currently not much in the way of creature quests for male PCs.  So, this mod will ideally serve both male and female PCs well. That means male PCs shouldn't be at any disadvantage with Tirwin.

[Gristle]

8 hours ago, chassa said:

also, ragnar is adorable.

 

3 hours ago, chassa said:

Also that 2nd actor in the final pack in column G...effing awesome, ive tried to look for other ones that include them without luck.

 

8 hours ago, chassa said:

possibly even dremora or certain daedra?

All of these comments lead me to also suggest Adventures with Balazar. It includes a (somewhat less) adorable husky, a rather dominant dremora (follower), and a tentacled surprise, among many other surprises. If you like this mod, you'll like Balazar. Main difference is it's currently set up only for female PCs. It's a quite extensive quest, and includes new locations.

 

 

[chassa]

HOW DID I MISS THIS?! thank you!

 

ty, gotta run, have a new mod to try 😁

Edited August 8, 2024 by chassa

[eflat01]

14 hours ago, Gristle said:

That's logical, but one purpose of this mod is to also work for male PCs, including those who do not themselves wish to engage with creatures. Or maybe they would, but really can't because practically there are no animations. Either way, there's currently not much in the way of creature quests for male PCs.  So, this mod will ideally serve both male and female PCs well. That means male PCs shouldn't be at any disadvantage with Tirwin.

Yes, I suppose which of course may lead to different routes and experience for men and women to reach the same results, It does not mean men don't pay close attention. 😉

Edited August 8, 2024 by eflat01

[mikebog]

On 7/31/2024 at 9:04 AM, killer905 said:

To be sure. Are yopu check all 3 quests?

I'm using P+ and I've been having similar problems and thought I'd share my observations.  Prior to adding this updated script the wolf sequence didn't feature a forcegreet at the end, nor was her hair down, and she was immediately diressed after the sex.

 

Once I added this new file, it resolved the wolf component, but not the bear.  The same situation is happening with the bear now: no forcegreet, hair up, immediately dressed, and nothing in the dialogue options that relate to the quest.

 

I'm happy to run further tests if you like, or provide additional info.  Much appreciated.

Edited August 16, 2024 by mikebog

[killer905]

1 hour ago, mikebog said:

I'm using P+ and I've been having similar problems and thought I'd share my observations.  Prior to adding this updated script the wolf sequence didn't feature a forcegreet at the end, nor was her hair down, and she was immediately diressed after the sex.

 

Once I added this new file, it resolved the wolf component, but not the bear.  The same situation is happening with the bear now: no forcegreet, hair up, immediately dressed, and nothing in the dialogue options that relate to the quest.

 

I'm happy to run further tests if you like, or provide additional info.  Much appreciated.

New content is currently being created (Next Creatures) and Tirwin as one NPC instead of 2 versions (hair up and hair long). Also this should solve some problems among others the one you described. When is the update coming? We plan to add the next ‘6’ creatures, but it depends on how soon and what problems we encounter during testing.

[eflat01]

9 hours ago, killer905 said:

New content is currently being created (Next Creatures) and Tirwin as one NPC instead of 2 versions (hair up and hair long). Also this should solve some problems among others the one you described. When is the update coming? We plan to add the next ‘6’ creatures, but it depends on how soon and what problems we encounter during testing.

Is a nice mod and Thx! I'm looking forward to where this is going... not requesting, but maybe Angi will teach them how to bait a deer, since she's bow huntress. 😉

Edited August 16, 2024 by eflat01

[AnomiMIce]

Voice bella Dragonborn voice over patch for this at https://www.loverslab.com/topic/226655-voice-bella-voice-packs-for-dragonborn-voice-over/page/2/

 

[killer905]

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Is a nice mod and Thx! I'm looking forward to where this is going... not requesting, but maybe Angi will teach them how to bait a deer, since she's bow huntress. 😉

It's a bit late a suggestions for Angi (Another animal has been assigned for her). If you want to help with ideas, I invite you to check here first:

Spoiler

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

And share your suggestions for book locations, animal locations and who can direct you to a specific animal. Dialogues, book content as well as suggestions on how the task should go are welcome. ❤️

From Pack 4 to Pack 14, feel free to suggest suggestions and please take into account that you don't want too many animals or a book in a particular hold. The number of animals and books per hold is on the right hand side of the sheet.

Edited August 16, 2024 by killer905

[Raven 54]

@Gristle or @killer905

Thanks for the work on a new mod.

I have a problem, I can't get the bear animation to start, hair up, sex lab creature on + animations needed, I have the dialogue with Tirwin and she says don't leave me...then the Bear just lays there and Tirwin walks around.

Is there supposed to be a troll in the cave?

Also I don't know how to find SetStage numbers so I cannot advance, did not have any issues with the Wolf Quest.

Thank You

Edited August 20, 2024 by Raven 54

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, Raven 54 said:

@Gristle or @killer905

Thanks for the work on a new mod.

I have a problem, I can't get the bear animation to start, hair up, sex lab creature on + animations needed, I have the dialogue with Tirwin and she says don't leave me...then the Bear just lays there and Tirwin walks around.

Is there supposed to be a troll in the cave?

Also I don't know how to find SetStage numbers so I cannot advance, did not have any issues with the Wolf Quest.

Thank You

 

Have you killed the troll? I think I had a troll there too (respawn) but I killed. Obviously can't work with interruptions, so take care of that before speaking to Tirwin. 

 

Show quest stages list the quests stages set 0 is not yet 1 is stage complete:

 

sqs VAR_Bear

 

Make sure you save before setting any stages to advance:   

 

setStage VAR_Bear <stage number>

 

I think 100 is the final - Completed - stage. 

 

if you open a console and type  

 

Help "VAR_"

 

That should show you the quest ids here.

 

Apparently they like to prefix the quest IDs with VAR_  makes me think is a variable. I've a habit of using acronyms i.e. AR_ or qAR_ would had been my prefix for the quests. When you have a sea of quests it just lets me know which belong to what mod. Used to be called Hungarian notation "l_account" would be a local var and "glb_account" a global var, in the DB's I always used "sp_" for stored procedure names and fn_ for functions and table/view names prefixed with schema name. To each their own...

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by eflat01

[eflat01]

On 8/16/2024 at 5:32 PM, killer905 said:

It's a bit late a suggestions for Angi (Another animal has been assigned for her). If you want to help with ideas, I invite you to check here first:

  Reveal hidden contents

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14yteMSUtPq9ZEcFN4fN-EJASYEvr9OqYFaeyuPtkRsQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0

And share your suggestions for book locations, animal locations and who can direct you to a specific animal. Dialogues, book content as well as suggestions on how the task should go are welcome. ❤️

From Pack 4 to Pack 14, feel free to suggest suggestions and please take into account that you don't want too many animals or a book in a particular hold. The number of animals and books per hold is on the right hand side of the sheet.

 

Well is kewl she's being used. Not enough people pay attention to the back story characters, they tend to stomp all over the prominent ones. 😉 

 

I just toss out ideas, or inspiration, personally I like surprises, it's the discovery and journey of it.

Edited August 20, 2024 by eflat01