Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Hmmm ... permanent effects on Angrim if something was done wrong, Whiterun's guards almost disabled for everything if I don't have Prison Overhaul installed (that I don't have). By my point of view there is something that must be worked on and ... quickly. Even if it's an interesting mod, AngrimApprentice should not be so "invasive" with other aspects of the game. Mainly not invasive with vanilla setting about Guards. I cannot imagine what would happen during some Civil War quests. you got me a bit wrong, theres a bounty on you from angrim even if you have never done any crime. if you are thane frome witherun or good with speech it is gone after one dialog withe the guards. the only thing for what is prison overhole recommendet for that mod is fun. if you dont have prison overhole you simple go to the vanillia jail stobor shoult work on that but not becouse iit is buggy he should make it more clear, nobody knows whats going on unless he reads the mod description. and ofcourse it is only afakting whiterun guards all other guards giving a shit about your bounty in other holds.
NicoleDragoness Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 IT ISN'T invasive with the guards. It sets bounty and that's ALL it does to them. You're jumping to (erroneous) conclusions, and I don't appreciate spreading misinformation. Which permanent effects on Angrim are you concerned with? The one where he takes it badly if you try to kill him? By my point of view it is invasive with the guards because I'm left with ONLY the dialogue "Wait ... I know you." I no longer have ANY other dialogues with them, at all. Even the option to be sent in the jail or pay this "invisible" bounty. Approaching a guard I ear the above dialogue and then, even with the "E" key active, I cannot interact with a guard, no way. This is an invasive system, by my point of view. About the permanent effect I was talking about, I used the "Thrall" spell on him before the end of the quests. This way, he became my "permanent" thrall without ANY other option to have one of the three (I believe) ends of the story. Maybe this is one of the ends you thought about, I don't know. Anyhow, I think to not have jumped on erroneus conclusions (and it was not my intention to "shoot" stupid criticisms on this mod, I liked it), mainly about the guard problem. I reported something I thought it IS a problem, or a bug, with this mod (at least in my game). Only to test it and to try to help to make it better. Have a nice day.
Guest Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 IT ISN'T invasive with the guards. It sets bounty and that's ALL it does to them. You're jumping to (erroneous) conclusions, and I don't appreciate spreading misinformation. Which permanent effects on Angrim are you concerned with? The one where he takes it badly if you try to kill him? By my point of view it is invasive with the guards because I'm left with ONLY the dialogue "Wait ... I know you." I no longer have ANY other dialogues with them, at all. Even the option to be sent in the jail or pay this "invisible" bounty. Approaching a guard I ear the above dialogue and then, even with the "E" key active, I cannot interact with a guard, no way. This is an invasive system, by my point of view. About the permanent effect I was talking about, I used the "Thrall" spell on him before the end of the quests. This way, he became my "permanent" thrall without ANY other option to have one of the three (I believe) ends of the story. Maybe this is one of the ends you thought about, I don't know. Anyhow, I think to not have jumped on erroneus conclusions (and it was not my intention to "shoot" stupid criticisms on this mod, I liked it), mainly about the guard problem. I reported something I thought it IS a problem, or a bug, with this mod (at least in my game). Only to test it and to try to help to make it better. Have a nice day. the guards are still vanilia unless you have not moddet them. if there is a bug with them i suspect that there something diffrent was going wrong.
stobor Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 The bounty is not invisible, and you can pay it off. If the guard dialogue is permanently broken for you, I do not believe it is a bug in this mod alone, but rather a mod interaction of some kind (or perhaps a vanilla interaction bug if you 'paid' the bounty via console). Nobody else has reported a similar problem. Enthralling Angrim is indeed intended as one of the endings. I was reacting to the 'must be worked on... and quickly' comment, which came across as a rude demand. So apologies if I seemed overly defensive.
Jappercut Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Hi, great mod! just having a minor problem towards the Succubus Ending, The Daedric Emissary says ''Now i'll just open the way'' and proceeds to do..... nothing? i don't understand? was that it ? since i am free to go... :/
GraysW Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Don't work anymore with the last version of Devious Device (no more .esp but .esm now).
ImmortalOne Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I just updated the deviant devices to version 2.6.6, and this mod keeps crashing my game like there is a depency missing (CTD on start-up)Anybody else have this problem? or am I missing something?
GraysW Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I just updated the deviant devices to version 2.6.6, and this mod keeps crashing my game like there is a depency missing (CTD on start-up) Anybody else have this problem? or am I missing something? Devious Device is no more a .esp but now a .esm. There's a dependency with that mod and it's broken right now. So there's a CTD on start up. You must wait until the next update or desactivate this mod.
Aelie Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 the problem is not reading the directions: Given the communities growing interest in developing mods that use the devices added by this mod, v2.6.6 is now an ESM, rather than an ESP. What this means for you, the user, is that this version can't be safely updated within the same game. Furthermore, this update requires that all mods that are dependent upon this one (All of the recommended mods) release an updated version as well. This should happen within the day, be patient.
ImmortalOne Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 the problem is not reading the directions: Given the communities growing interest in developing mods that use the devices added by this mod, v2.6.6 is now an ESM, rather than an ESP. What this means for you, the user, is that this version can't be safely updated within the same game. Furthermore, this update requires that all mods that are dependent upon this one (All of the recommended mods) release an updated version as well. This should happen within the day, be patient. Is that from the wall of text from devious devices? Then yeah, you might be right in recognizing where the problem is
stobor Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 The 1.30 version is now available. You must use this version if you use Devious Devices 2.6.6 or later - earlier versions will crash on loading, due to the change in format of Devious Devices (from ESP to ESM file). It is not safe to upgrade this in mid-game, and I will not respond to bug reports if you do so. This version contains no functionality changes, it just updates the dependency on Devious Devices.
Guest Xluxlu Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 i have a question, angrim put for first time the belt on my char but when he have sex whit my char, the belt don´t unequip, and the ball gag neither, i have all the requeriments and updates
stobor Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 This mod uses ring gag, not ball gag - are you sure you've got the right gear? Does the Devious Devices MCM menu still work (if not, that indicates that DD is busted)? Does the problem exist in a save that has been upgraded from prior versions, or in one where the mods were installed before starting a new character? Are there any papyrus log messages from Devious Devices (Zad) or Angrim?
Guest Xluxlu Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 i put the mod on a previous save whit a old version but in that save i never get the belt (but i speak whit angrim) and yea, sorry, he equip on my char the ring gag, my mistake, the menu of DD work fine and i don´t have problem on the papyrus, if i new start a new game, well, i will do it jajaja
stobor Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 Try it on a brand new character; if it works there, then the problem is the upgrade path you took (which is not supported). If it doesn't work on a clean start, then we'll debug it further.
Guest Xluxlu Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 ok, tomorrow i will try in a new char thanks
Guest Xluxlu Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 works fine whit a new save thanks for your mod
aljustineg Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 how to be become a succubus by training (courtesy of Angrim) just type in spoiler pls
Deep Red Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 how to be become a succubus by training (courtesy of Angrim) just type in spoiler pls And ruin half the fun? It's pretty straight forward tbh. Keep doing what Angrim says and you'll reach the end of the quest before you know it. Will there be more to the quest? The perverted old man theme was a nice touch and left me wanting more. Also, I think the description of the spells from this mod should be a little more clear on what they do exactly. All of the quests worked flawlessly. Well done!
darkfender666 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Hi I have this issue.. I have lot of mods installed and all running smooth... Except Angrim apprentice or alternate start crashing the game on loading... I know most times is due to something missing but i installed all requirements Devious Devices - AssetsDevious Devices - IntegrationZaz Animation Pack I run also sd+ and it would not run without them... Boss says all is ok Tes 5 edit crashes at devious devices as Always .....(i tried to uninstall and reinstall everything but tes5 edit won t work..) Any help?
stobor Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 Did you check the dependecies of THOSE mods? You're probably missing one - like SexLab Aroused.
darkfender666 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 found the issue i m using sexlab 1.35 due to being far more stable and it won t work with it... Now where do i start the quest?
stobor Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 found the issue i m using sexlab 1.35 due to being far more stable and it won t work with it... Now where do i start the quest? Read first para of the original post.
darkfender666 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 I read it but .... when i enter the basement angrim tells me he can t teach me the spell and that i should visit dibella s temple, i did talked a bit and returned but nothing happened :/
sukram0815 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 I read it but .... when i enter the basement angrim tells me he can t teach me the spell and that i should visit dibella s temple, i did talked a bit and returned but nothing happened :/ Go a bit further, not just talking.
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