Angrim's Apprentice (Feb-10-2016)

[Kuロi]

While I find an appropriate time for this quest, some questions came to mind :

 

1- Is there a way for the PC to learn of Angrim existence? Other than simply barging in his house like I own the place and asking him to teach me (Ay least, t'hat's what I did when I tried it)

2- You mentioned the Nocturnal Dress, but I'm using UNPB. if I were to download this mod from the Nexus : http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/17700/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D17700%26preview%3D&pUp=1

Would it work? Or would I need to change some stuff?

 

 

[stobor]

truly love the mod.

 

Think i hit a problem though, He offered a collar to my pc and i accepted.  all it did was stripped her naked and nothing else.  is it something i did or didn't do?

 

Sounds like a bug, most likely with your installation.  There should be animations at that point, so if they're not playing I'd look to the mods that perform the animating (FNIS and SexLab).  With no more information, there's nothing I can do to diagnose this.

[stobor]

While I find an appropriate time for this quest, some questions came to mind :

 

1- Is there a way for the PC to learn of Angrim existence? Other than simply barging in his house like I own the place and asking him to teach me (Ay least, t'hat's what I did when I tried it)

2- You mentioned the Nocturnal Dress, but I'm using UNPB. if I were to download this mod from the Nexus :...

Would it work? Or would I need to change some stuff?

 

1. No, I haven't salted the game with courier messages or comments from vanilla NPCs that might lead you to him.

2. I wouldn't expect that to work.  Different mod versions of that outfit store their meshes and textures in different locations.  Simplest solution is to ignore it (this mod defaults to a vanilla mage robe), but if your modding skills are up to it you could substitute something else instead.

 

[Kuロi]

 

While I find an appropriate time for this quest, some questions came to mind :

 

1- Is there a way for the PC to learn of Angrim existence? Other than simply barging in his house like I own the place and asking him to teach me (Ay least, t'hat's what I did when I tried it)

2- You mentioned the Nocturnal Dress, but I'm using UNPB. if I were to download this mod from the Nexus :...

Would it work? Or would I need to change some stuff?

 

1. No, I haven't salted the game with courier messages or comments from vanilla NPCs that might lead you to him.

2. I wouldn't expect that to work.  Different mod versions of that outfit store their meshes and textures in different locations.  Simplest solution is to ignore it (this mod defaults to a vanilla mage robe), but if your modding skills are up to it you could substitute something else instead.

 

 

 

Alright, thanks for the quick response And if you don't mind some idea :

 

Maybe you could add a simple way to learn of Angrim. Say, add a different rumor slot to Whiterun's inn Keeper, something like "Other than the College ..." to which she could answer "I hear there's an old hermit near the watchtower to the east. I think courriers and comments are a bit intrusive, so this could be an easy solution.

 

I guess we can just as simply RP it in the meanwhile and pretend we heard from the innkeepr, but you know, some slight immersion never hurts

 

[stobor]

Played a bit now after the ending and it feels that the succubus desires or needs are not enough. Rigth now I get notifications from sexlab arousal that my desire is getting overwhelming but the needs of the curse of the succubi are not there.

 

I would love it if the curse could be made feel more needy. That it would be need to be fed. Right now it feels almost if it was not there.

 

I'm not sure what to do about that.  I get what you're saying, but in my experience a Succubus hardly ever has a chance to build up a high Arousal score or run her 'satiation' score low enough to trigger the magicka decline (unless Devious Devices prevent her from feeding).  In my play, just keeping this mod's spells empowered is enough to avoid those conditions easily.

 

The main options to make the effect seem needier would be:

 

1) More frequent (or more intrusive) notification messages.

2) Much lower max satiation (or faster decline - same result). 

 

I'm not fond of frequent notification messages; I've tried to limit those to meaningful changes in conditions, and even so I find the combination of Aroused and this mod is resulting in a certain amount of notification spam (particularly since they often trigger on similar conditions).

 

I'm reluctant to shorten the max interval between feeding by a lot, since it would very likely interfere with normal play (which is not my intent).

 

About the only thing I can think of is to have some other secondary effect kick in, well before the magicka decline starts.  It would have to be something noticeable, but not as debilitating as losing 10% of your magicka each hour.

[Azrail]

Anyone able to help me?

 

I'm using the succubus race mod however my satiation level never changes. Its displayed at 0.0 when checked but it never rises and if I change it manually it never falls.

I've tried new characters and that hasn't fixed it, tried starting a new game with a nord and turned them into a succubus through angrim but the satiation is still broken so its not the race mod.

I've messed with the load order and still no success so either I've somehow buggered the installation or I've missed something.

[Otaku21]

Have to say, i do like this mod, and i cant wait for the next update, to see what you come out with next Stobor, but maybe you would a mini guide to point some of us (mostly me) in the right direction, as i can get past the part where Angrims put the chastiy belt on me, with the soul gem thing up my PCs pussy, then he keeps saying he needs to rest

[manarak]

 

Played a bit now after the ending and it feels that the succubus desires or needs are not enough. Rigth now I get notifications from sexlab arousal that my desire is getting overwhelming but the needs of the curse of the succubi are not there.

 

I would love it if the curse could be made feel more needy. That it would be need to be fed. Right now it feels almost if it was not there.

 

I'm not sure what to do about that.  I get what you're saying, but in my experience a Succubus hardly ever has a chance to build up a high Arousal score or run her 'satiation' score low enough to trigger the magicka decline (unless Devious Devices prevent her from feeding).  In my play, just keeping this mod's spells empowered is enough to avoid those conditions easily.

 

The main options to make the effect seem needier would be:

 

1) More frequent (or more intrusive) notification messages.

2) Much lower max satiation (or faster decline - same result). 

 

I'm not fond of frequent notification messages; I've tried to limit those to meaningful changes in conditions, and even so I find the combination of Aroused and this mod is resulting in a certain amount of notification spam (particularly since they often trigger on similar conditions).

 

I'm reluctant to shorten the max interval between feeding by a lot, since it would very likely interfere with normal play (which is not my intent).

 

About the only thing I can think of is to have some other secondary effect kick in, well before the magicka decline starts.  It would have to be something noticeable, but not as debilitating as losing 10% of your magicka each hour.

 

 

one way would be to take over any dialog with any npc and to offer no other options than sex until the desires are satisfied

[trimstin]

 

truly love the mod.

 

Think i hit a problem though, He offered a collar to my pc and i accepted.  all it did was stripped her naked and nothing else.  is it something i did or didn't do?

 

Sounds like a bug, most likely with your installation.  There should be animations at that point, so if they're not playing I'd look to the mods that perform the animating (FNIS and SexLab).  With no more information, there's nothing I can do to diagnose this.

 

 

 

 

ok went out last night and got all the latest mods of fnis, sexlab, aroused, zaz animation, and both devious devices.  now she strips and is stuck doing a strip animation. jumping gets her out of the loop, but nothing else happens.

[Shalassan]

Hi there, i'm a bit confused, i read the faq but i can't pass one point. arngrim ask me to pass some time with Dibella, so i went to her shrine, made the quest, i'm an agent, have the blessing and when i come back see him he do nothing at all. I have only one option for trade and one to have sex but nothing more.

 

I read the books and learn the spell from succubus and got the ruined book saying it's a dead end to and nothing more happen now.

 

Is there something i missed or is it buggy?

[stobor]

@Shalassan:  Keep talking to him (and having sex, of course).  Some of the early quest stages can repeat randomly.  Eventually, there are other options.

[stobor]

@trimstin: Do other SexLab animations work for you?  If not, the problem isn't this mod.  If other animations do work, provide a log and load order (in spoiler tags, or uploaded as a zip file).  I'm not psychic, so I can't diagnose your bug from a two-line description.

[stobor]

@manarak: Not a bad idea, but perhaps a bit too intrusive for what I had in mind.

[stobor]

@Azrail: The usual drill: post log and load order (spoiler tagged or zip files, do not fill the forum with gibberish).  In this case, it would also be helpful if you could do a 'help angrim' from the console, and note down any global variables that this command finds (e.g. AngrimPlayerIsSuccubus).

 

Is your character in fact showing 'Succubus curse' in her active magic effects?

[stobor]

Have to say, i do like this mod, and i cant wait for the next update, to see what you come out with next Stobor, but maybe you would a mini guide to point some of us (mostly me) in the right direction, as i can get past the part where Angrims put the chastiy belt on me, with the soul gem thing up my PCs pussy, then he keeps saying he needs to rest

 

At that point, odds are that simply waiting a few hours in-game (not in one big lump by hitting the 'T' key, since that won't trigger the updates more than once no matter how long you wait) will get you to the point where your Magicka is in serious decline and the final scene(s) can start.  Check 'help angrimsatiation' in the console, if you think it's bugged - this needs to drop below 5.0 before the dialogue will change.

 

[trimstin]

How do you do the log thing?

[stobor]

How do you do the log thing?

 

Google is your friend: search for 'skyrim papyrus log'.

[Azrail]

@Azrail: The usual drill: post log and load order (spoiler tagged or zip files, do not fill the forum with gibberish).  In this case, it would also be helpful if you could do a 'help angrim' from the console, and note down any global variables that this command finds (e.g. AngrimPlayerIsSuccubus).

 

Is your character in fact showing 'Succubus curse' in her active magic effects?

 

I think the problem is my character isn't being flagged as a succubus. She doesn't have the succubus curse in the effects tab and the pc isn't flagged as a succubus so the problems there. I'm gonna try a few things with the load order and see if I can fix it. If not I'll post the logs.

 

Edit: Yeah, solved it. Just uninstalled it and did a clean save to reinstall. Also made sure Angrims apprentice was placed last in to load order.

[Shalassan]

Well i did like you said and he finally put me a collar, and a dreadra appeared but now i have not a single interaction avaible, the dreadra is gone and all Angrim keep saying is he don't have use anymore for a whore.

 

This mod is really fun and sweet but knowing if it work correctly or what is missing is sometime a bit of a pain ^^

[stobor]

Sounds like you hit the end (stage 100).  Though I would normally expect some intermediate stages between first bondage games (stage 40) and the end.  But maybe you just ran through them quickly - or tried to use Drink Soul to kill him (that's a quick route to the end, for obvious reasons, even if the attempt fails).

[xxsleepyxx]

ok i think im at the end but not sure.  he says some stuff about how his curse is lifted then he summons a deadra to bang me then its over, or is there more?  Alternatively i didnt allow him to put the collar on me and he banged my spirit, now i have a double of me standing there and no more options talking with angrim.  Is this right?  The double of me just stays there?

[stobor]

Your double isn't dead?  Really?

 

Otherwise, that all sounds normal.  Well, normal by the standards of this mod, anyway.

[xxsleepyxx]

nope, just standing there.  Was i supposed to go back into my original body or become the spirit?  I became the spirit but turned into my regular body with all my gear. 

 

I was wondering, is there a way to summon the female daedra?

[stobor]

nope, just standing there.  Was i supposed to go back into my original body or become the spirit?  I became the spirit but turned into my regular body and all my gear.

 

You're a spirit (able to temporarily assume mortal form, for 12 game hours after sex).  You do keep your gear though.

 

The double should've died.  Unless somehow your character is in 'immortal' mode, and that carried over to the double... the code that does this is extremely simple, and this is the first time I've heard of it going wrong:

    corpse = PlayerRef.PlaceActorAtMe( PlayerRef.GetActorBase() ) as actor
    corpse.UnequipAll()
    corpse.kill( AngrimRef )

Very strange.  Can you kill the double, or is it truly immortal?

[xxsleepyxx]

i dont look like a spirit after sex.  the original of me can be killed.  (apparently she was still a member of the college and have to rejoin now lol)  I like this mod but angrim really needs some better dialog to let u know what the hek is going on so u can kinda figure out if things are working correctly.  There doesnt need to be big long dialog added, just more precise hints at whats happening. 

 

For example here he could say something like "enjoy your spirit ive damned you to, its a pity it wont last" or "how does it feel seeing your former self lying dead".  that way u kinda get hints on what supposed to happen.

 

Also i was wondering if theres a way to summon the female daedra?