Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[Cocein]

Tiny little suggestion sometimes simpler is better,

 

Considered just adding a debuff to the full mouth gags? Extremely redeced speech skill instead of disabling talk? (slightly less for ring/ open panel)

The restrictions on shouting and such are nice, but the talk function very needed, but gag on my char hard to give up.

 

(and if one wants to be realistic/lory about it; words are only part of the way we communicate and you can still make "noise" to a certain degree even with your mouth closed)

I kind of agree. Most people can talk with a gag on to a certain extent. It's just less understandable. Combine that with writing and gesturing and I figure you should be able to talk to people. Unfortunately speechcraft isn't a very useful skill in the game, so debuffing it doesn't really do much. Unless there are some good mods exploiting low speechcraft.

 

Which now that I think of it could be an interesting idea. Make a mod which has npcs you talk to decide to rape you if your speechcraft is too low. Sort of a, "you pissed them off and they decided to teach you a lesson" sort of thing. That's out of the scope of integration though. Might go well in lover's victim...

[fiewiel]

Ok, might be a dumb question, but how do I remove a blindfold?

Key doesnt seem to work, talking gave me no new option.

[Min]

Ok, might be a dumb question, but how do I remove a blindfold?

Key doesnt seem to work, talking gave me no new option.

The standard Restraints Key will unlock it.

[vipermagi]

 

Ok, might be a dumb question, but how do I remove a blindfold?

Key doesnt seem to work, talking gave me no new option.

The standard Restraints Key will unlock it.

 

Bearing in mind that if you are using For the Masses, depending on your settings the key you find might not be a real key.

[PubliusNV]

Ok, might be a dumb question, but how do I remove a blindfold?

Key doesnt seem to work, talking gave me no new option.

 

I discovered by accident that if you have Prison Overhaul installed, and you get sent to jail, the blindfold somehow comes off.  I guess the jailor wants you to see the whip he is holding   

 

[DistrictGlamour]

Hey Min-- brilliant work on the newest round of updates.  

I'm impressed by the stability, so far-- I have about 180ish plugins right now, and your scripting seems rather lightweight for all that it is handling, especially with how difficult it can be to get in-inventory stuff to trigger properly.  Great job!

 

One question: is the body harness supposed to block the use of chastity belt and plugs?  I seem to see a slit along the bottom of Zadil's design.

[KomradePavlov]

Hey Min-- brilliant work on the newest round of updates.  

I'm impressed by the stability, so far-- I have about 180ish plugins right now, and your scripting seems rather lightweight for all that it is handling, especially with how difficult it can be to get in-inventory stuff to trigger properly.  Great job!

 

One question: is the body harness supposed to block the use of chastity belt and plugs?  I seem to see a slit along the bottom of Zadil's design.

 

You can consider the harness a chastity belt in itself... Like a full body one, and not just the crotch, as I'm sure you've noticed.

It should also keep plugs in, and prevent the PC from masturbating.

[Zadil]

 

Hey Min-- brilliant work on the newest round of updates.  

I'm impressed by the stability, so far-- I have about 180ish plugins right now, and your scripting seems rather lightweight for all that it is handling, especially with how difficult it can be to get in-inventory stuff to trigger properly.  Great job!

 

One question: is the body harness supposed to block the use of chastity belt and plugs?  I seem to see a slit along the bottom of Zadil's design.

 

You can consider the harness a chastity belt in itself... Like a full body one, and not just the crotch, as I'm sure you've noticed.

It should also keep plugs in, and prevent the PC from masturbating.

 

Correct, the harness is meant to function as a chastity device by itself (hence the openings) and is not designed or meant to be worn in conjunction with any of the belts. Aelie's LADL includes a slightly modified version of the harness that differs in that regard in accordance with the aim of that mod and the author's personal preference.

[Plumber]

I would just accept the PC moaning into the gag when they attempt to speak to an NPC. Nothing really complicated in that. Hell, it doesn't need to open up a dialogue, just play one of those gagged noises. It's better than nothing, IMO.

 

Actually, I think about making a small tweak for DD. PC will be able to "speak" - something like "mmmmph" and "uuugh". If you're lucky (or the person in front of you is really friendly - husband, houscarl, old good buddy Faendal from Riverwood), Dovahkiin will be free. Relatively.

 

I'm good with CK, but not much, so wish me luck. =)

 

P.S. Sorry, my English is abysmal, I know.

[KomradePavlov]

 

 

I would just accept the PC moaning into the gag when they attempt to speak to an NPC. Nothing really complicated in that. Hell, it doesn't need to open up a dialogue, just play one of those gagged noises. It's better than nothing, IMO.

Actually, I think about making a small tweak for DD. PC will be able to "speak" - something like "mmmmph" and "uuugh". If you're lucky (or the person in front of you is really friendly - husband, houscarl, old good buddy Faendal from Riverwood), Dovahkiin will be free. Relatively.

 

I'm good with CK, but not much, so wish me luck. =)

 

P.S. Sorry, my English is abysmal, I know.

Hey, if min doesn't do it then I'd put my support behind you, comrade!

 

I hope you can find a way to make it play one of the DD gagged noises. I'd honestly try to do this myself but I can't wrap my head around coding, unfortunately.

 

Let us know if you make progress!

[Veladarius]

 

 

I would just accept the PC moaning into the gag when they attempt to speak to an NPC. Nothing really complicated in that. Hell, it doesn't need to open up a dialogue, just play one of those gagged noises. It's better than nothing, IMO.

Actually, I think about making a small tweak for DD. PC will be able to "speak" - something like "mmmmph" and "uuugh". If you're lucky (or the person in front of you is really friendly - husband, houscarl, old good buddy Faendal from Riverwood), Dovahkiin will be free. Relatively.

 

I'm good with CK, but not much, so wish me luck. =)

 

P.S. Sorry, my English is abysmal, I know.

Hey, if min doesn't do it then I'd put my support behind you, comrade!

 

I hope you can find a way to make it play one of the DD gagged noises. I'd honestly try to do this myself but I can't wrap my head around coding, unfortunately.

 

Let us know if you make progress!

 

 

The mod Devious Devices - Gags+ will make your character make the gagged noises when trying to talk to someone and it gives a way to communicate while gagged.

 

Making the scripts and dialogue to remove the gags is not difficult. You can take a look at my Interactions mod to see how I did it with the npc's. The scripts are embedded in the dialogue and are just a single line. You will just need it to target the player instead of the npc.

[KomradePavlov]

The mod Devious Devices - Gags+ will make your character make the gagged noises when trying to talk to someone and it gives a way to communicate while gagged.

 

Making the scripts and dialogue to remove the gags is not difficult. You can take a look at my Interactions mod to see how I did it with the npc's. The scripts are embedded in the dialogue and are just a single line. You will just need it to target the player instead of the npc.

Ah, I didn't try it cause I just thought it was a "work around" to being gagged. Since it does that, I'll give it a try.

 

Two questions though:

1. Is it compatible with the current DD

2. Does the player sill moan into the gag wile bound? (Does the armbinder disable all interactions if the PC is wearing it?)

[Plumber]

1. It seems to be working.

2. Yep, she still moan.

 

All I need now is small alterations in this very impressive speech of Dovahkiin the Gagged.

 

Should I contact to jbesorg then? My level of speechcraft (poor English) don't allow me to express my thoughts clearly.

[kurotatsu]

I wonder if anybody else noticed that simple gags (not harness ones) still appear as harness while equipped.

[Min]

I'm definitely going to do something with the gags, not sure what yet. I've read over your suggestions (Thanks for those), keep them coming if you have more.

 

 

Ok, might be a dumb question, but how do I remove a blindfold?

Key doesnt seem to work, talking gave me no new option.

 

I discovered by accident that if you have Prison Overhaul installed, and you get sent to jail, the blindfold somehow comes off.  I guess the jailor wants you to see the whip he is holding 

Hmm. I tested with prison overhaul yesterday: The blindfold wasn't removed, but prison-overhaul micro-manages the player controls as well, re-enabling them while walking in third-person. Not a big deal, just toggle first/third person to reset it properly.

 

Hey Min-- brilliant work on the newest round of updates.  

I'm impressed by the stability, so far-- I have about 180ish plugins right now, and your scripting seems rather lightweight for all that it is handling, especially with how difficult it can be to get in-inventory stuff to trigger properly.  Great job!

 

One question: is the body harness supposed to block the use of chastity belt and plugs?  I seem to see a slit along the bottom of Zadil's design.

Thanks: It should be pretty low impact for the most part.

 

It is indeed. Zadil intended for it to be used as a belt.

 

I wonder if anybody else noticed that simple gags (not harness ones) still appear as harness while equipped.

Can't reproduce this complaint: Both simple gags render without the full head-harness for me.

[kurotatsu]

I wonder if anybody else noticed that simple gags (not harness ones) still appear as harness while equipped.

Can't reproduce this complaint: Both simple gags render without the full head-harness for me.

 

Reinstalled both Assets and Integration. Simple gags show as they should inside Inventory, however when put on - harness version rendered as worn. Works for both Assets (non-scripted) and Intergration (proper ones) simple gags. Simple panel gags from Assets shown as they should be both in Inventory and on character.

[lkl]

The blindfold and gag seems to be unaligned with my character's face and head. 

[geH54sdfM]

As with 2.7+ vaginal plugs take slot 54 thus I cannot use newmiller's stockings anymore. Furthermore, only slots 53 and 54 seem to allow for working _0.nif and _1.nif - with the other remainig slots (46,47,52,57,58,60) body weighting does not work (only _1.nif is used).

 

Are there any chances to change the vaginal plug slot from 54 to something else?

[Aelie]

As with 2.7+ vaginal plugs take slot 54 thus I cannot use newmiller's stockings anymore. Furthermore, only slots 53 and 54 seem to allow for working _0.nif and _1.nif - with the other remainig slots (46,47,52,57,58,60) body weighting does not work (only _1.nif is used).

 

Are there any chances to change the vaginal plug slot from 54 to something else?

 

to what? there are no slots that dont conflict with some other mod, ive checked.

[DragonDreamer]

 

Hi, I just installed this file along with the recommended and required files as well.  There appears to be one script file missing (should be 8 and only showing 7).  I was wondering if ZAZ is required, or just a suggestion and maybe that is where the missing script is?  Not sure, but definitely 1 file missing somewhere along the line.  My game CTD's when I have this installed, so removed for now until I find out what the file is.....

 

Thanks

 

 

TES5 Edit and WyreSmash can also tell you what Master files are missing.

 

 

[DragonDreamer]

Thanks for the help.   Much appreciated.  I checked all my files manually one by one to make sure of what I was missing, and I do need to install ZAZ.  So hopefully that will be the solution to the problem.  I have all the others installed and everything works okay up to that point.

[Golgo13]

 

Thanks a lot for the quick reply.

 

I just like the way that my UNPB 'toon looks; and, from what I read when I initially made a decision between the two bodies in the beginning, the CBBE doesn't have as much detail.  And, this may just be totally "out there," but, based on his work in the Fallout games, I got the impression that Dimon seemed to have an affinity for slimmer forms; while the creator of the CBBE body seems to have more of a Morgana the Kissing Bandit fetish.  So, although the UNPB body was seemingly taken out of Dimon's hands and "Morganified," too, I still just prefer UNP bodies partly because I've been a fan of Dimon's work for a long time, and will choose them over anything else whenever I get a chance.

 

I paged back, but couldn't find any d/l's of replacement meshes.  Then again, I have an incredible migraine atm, so I'm just kind of "stabbing" at the screen text when I look at it-- I'm very sensitive to light right now, which is partly why I'm not playing the game.

 

If proper UNPB meshes will be available, I'll just hold off on everything and install those, when I can.

 

Thanks, again!

 

* if you know where those meshes are, I'd appreciate a link to them, because I really can't find them.

 

This post in Assets has info on what you are looking for: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19865-devious-devices-assets/?p=718057

 

 

Thanks for the reply (and thanks to everyone else, too) .

 

I installed the mod with the DD UNPBv1.1 patch, but, things don't look right-- in fact, I'd deactivate the patch to check it is even working, at all, if I were not so concerned about the fact that my game loves to start CTD-ing on me for such trivial reasons.  There's lots of clipping in the front.  The belts look as though the vertical band is just supporting itself.  And, the plugs don't quite line up, anatomically.

 

I'm still using it all, since I want to see what the quests are like; but, I really hope that work is continued on UNP support by someone.  It's a big disappointment for things to look so bad this time around, comparatively speaking.  *Sigh*

 

I haven't located any of the quests apart from the main quest, yet, which I just completed.

[Min]

The blindfold and gag seems to be unaligned with my character's face and head. 

Pictures? Details? What race are you using? Etc, etc.

 

As with 2.7+ vaginal plugs take slot 54 thus I cannot use newmiller's stockings anymore. Furthermore, only slots 53 and 54 seem to allow for working _0.nif and _1.nif - with the other remainig slots (46,47,52,57,58,60) body weighting does not work (only _1.nif is used).

 

Are there any chances to change the vaginal plug slot from 54 to something else?

There are no non-conflicting slots. Perhaps the author of  "Make it Compatible" can help you.

[Pinute]

 

The blindfold and gag seems to be unaligned with my character's face and head. 

Pictures? Details? What race are you using? Etc, etc.

 

As with 2.7+ vaginal plugs take slot 54 thus I cannot use newmiller's stockings anymore. Furthermore, only slots 53 and 54 seem to allow for working _0.nif and _1.nif - with the other remainig slots (46,47,52,57,58,60) body weighting does not work (only _1.nif is used).

 

Are there any chances to change the vaginal plug slot from 54 to something else?

There are no non-conflicting slots. Perhaps the author of  "Make it Compatible" can help you.

 

 

Heh. We're running out of slots - what with zaz and DD using different slots for cuffs and the like. 

 

Regarding the _0 and _1 weights, I'd need to look again at home to see just where I've put what but I'm pretty sure I'm getting proper weight changes - I've used all of them for something at one time or another (I'm a serial masher ). But DD's forced me to pretty much give up on most bandoliers and combine those individual mashup meshes into single nifs to reduce slot usage.

 

Don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining about you and zadil monopolizing so many of the extra slots. You've made Excellent use of them!

[Aelie]

i've had to abandon most of my additional slot mods as well but what else can you do   bethesda should have given us more than 25 slots!