Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[ebbluminous]

We also need Bossy Bimbo. The Bimbo who thinks they can boss everyone around. The reality is that the only person they can boss around is the player once they have become a Bimbo...

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Thalmor Embassy integration, now bimbo Elisif. Did you guys find my "Things I really wanted to do but would certainly break main quests" list?

Yeah, please don't break the Elisif Follower mod or the Toccata as Elisif mod. They work perfectly together.

 

Elisif Follower Mod

 

(includes an option to use with Toccata as Elisif so she looks proper beautiful innit)

 

Toccata Follower mod

 

(for the Toccata as Elisif reskin).

 

Interestingly Elisif the Fair was a Russian princess who was the second wife of Harald Hardrada of Norway. He had two wives simultaneously, his Norwegian wife and his Russian wife.

Edited August 2, 2023 by Balgin

[FatBeaver64]

Cant you make a copy of Elisif and have her appear somewhere else.. Maybe the thalmor turned the original into a Bimbo so Tullius had to agree to them putting a clone on the throne to keep the empire stable in skyrim....

 

She would be a popular follower, a lot of skyrim men wouldnt mind a night with an Elisif clone.. and maybe the thalmor would send assassins after you... But maybe if you do a quest for her you can cure her.. (though you yeah not likely) in which case she vanishes and we can pretend we helped the original elisif

 

Oh wait ill go sit back down now

[Wut1969]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

The problem there is that the Bannered Mare might start to get a bit crowded between her, Anaita, and Lyli...

 

 

Yeah, like SkyAddiction said, I'm not touching that quest with a 10-foot pole. It's a shame, because I've had a few fun thoughts for it, but that thing will blow up at the slightest prod. Maybe a more skilled and brave modder would do it, but I value my sanity too much to go anywhere near it.

 

Sanity is overrated, especially in this thread. ?

 

There's also the Drunken Huntsman where you can drop Bimbos, but you could also just let them wander about I think? Or have them take car of wounded soldiers in the temple of Kynareth. Nudge nudge, know what I mean, eh, know what I mean (to keep the Python quotes coming).

 

 

[ebbluminous]

5 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

Sanity is overrated, especially in this thread. ?

 

There's also the Drunken Huntsman where you can drop Bimbos, but you could also just let them wander about I think? Or have them take car of wounded soldiers in the temple of Kynareth. Nudge nudge, know what I mean, eh, know what I mean (to keep the Python quotes coming).

 

 

There needs to be a Bimbo House/Inn/Mansion for Bimbos to hang out at.

 

Hmm Bimbo Guild will then be needed...

[SkyAddiction]

6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Thalmor Embassy integration, now bimbo Elisif. Did you guys find my "Things I really wanted to do but would certainly break main quests" list?

Elisif is such a target for being a bimbo! A lonely princess who would love to see the world adventuring with a friend, being slowly turned in a giggling slut who's sexually dependent on the friend she set out with... In one playthrough, I dug into her factions using The Manipulator and Scent of Sex and managed to get her to be a follower (which was harder than it is for a normal NPC), and made a small dialogue patch to go with it. It was great, but only worked because I had no intention of doing the Civil War or Bard's College- or any quest at all that she's meant to appear in at all- because all of those would have been completely broken.

 

It's always tough to connect complex quests to vanilla NPCs without disrupting their vanilla behaviour, and the Jarls have a lot of complex interactions so they're some of the worst. I even had some issues getting Mikael to work for Childish Games, and he's one of the biggest nobodies around. I want to avoid using vanilla NPCs for central roles in quests as much as I can, and when I do it'll always be ones who are basically nobodies like Mikael, Lami, and Endarie in Childish Games, or the concept I have for Ingun Blackbriar asking for your "help" to test some potions.

 

Lol! Ah, the temptation to mess with vanilla NPCs...

 

Back when I was trying to make a spicy follower mod (SLTR was released and HexBolt did it way better), my workaround for vanilla NPCs was to spawn copies when I needed them, then despawn them when the player leaves the cell. They don't really work for followers for obvious reasons, but if you want to make quests where they make appearances or even become questgivers, it's great. It might take considerable and annoyingly elaborate justification to have Elisif appear in the Four Shields Tavern in Dragon Bridge for an evening of sex and fun, but having Gaius Maro appear there to hand you a quest is so easy to believe that the player won't likely give it a second thought.

[MellowDrama]

In childish games.

If you decide to help the other one, the lipstick spell doesn't work. 

Gray-mane. Not grey mane

Edited August 2, 2023 by lucakro

[AVS]

How about doing something with Salma, I think her name is? The one with the little quest about getting betrayed by her Argonian companion in a dungeon near the Night Gate Inn. She's both a noblewoman and a warrior, and basically just vanishes from the vanilla game after her quest. Maybe have her (or a copy of her, if that's easier) pop up in the Inn to mope around after her quest finishes, only to run into a new misfortune when someone gives her something to improve her mood.

[jib_buttkiss]

14 hours ago, Sielgaudys said:

Shame, but understandable. Since if we're speaking of vampire bimbos, then Alva would be a perfect candidate. 

 

Alva's another NPC connected to a complex quest- one where she dies, even. It's not a main story quest sure, but a lot of interactions in Morthal are gated behind its completion.

 

12 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

We also need Bossy Bimbo. The Bimbo who thinks they can boss everyone around. The reality is that the only person they can boss around is the player once they have become a Bimbo...

 

That's a fun idea. I'll keep the concept in mind for an NPC.

 

10 hours ago, FatBeaver64 said:

Cant you make a copy of Elisif and have her appear somewhere else.. Maybe the thalmor turned the original into a Bimbo so Tullius had to agree to them putting a clone on the throne to keep the empire stable in skyrim....

 

She would be a popular follower, a lot of skyrim men wouldnt mind a night with an Elisif clone.. and maybe the thalmor would send assassins after you... But maybe if you do a quest for her you can cure her.. (though you yeah not likely) in which case she vanishes and we can pretend we helped the original elisif

 

Oh wait ill go sit back down now

 

Ehh, It's one of those things that I technically could do, but would take a lot of time and effort. I can either get a bimbo Elisif follower working without breaking the whole vanilla story, or I can add 5 new NPCs and a few quests. It's just prioritisation- I'd rather work on the option that adds more to the mod.

 

For an Elisif follower, your best bet is probably one of the mods Balgin linked. Of course, nothing's stopping those modded Elisif followers from catching the bimbo curse...

 

7 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

Lol! Ah, the temptation to mess with vanilla NPCs...

 

Back when I was trying to make a spicy follower mod (SLTR was released and HexBolt did it way better), my workaround for vanilla NPCs was to spawn copies when I needed them, then despawn them when the player leaves the cell. They don't really work for followers for obvious reasons, but if you want to make quests where they make appearances or even become questgivers, it's great. It might take considerable and annoyingly elaborate justification to have Elisif appear in the Four Shields Tavern in Dragon Bridge for an evening of sex and fun, but having Gaius Maro appear there to hand you a quest is so easy to believe that the player won't likely give it a second thought.

 

Ah, that's a clever solution! I'll probably use it at some point.

 

Good point about how it won't work for followers though- in the same way, it won't work for bimbofications, unless you try to justify why their tits shrink back down and they can talk straight again while they're in the Blue Palace.

 

4 hours ago, lucakro said:

In childish games.

If you decide to help the other one, the lipstick spell doesn't work. 

Gray-mane. Not grey mane

 

Thanks for the heads up. I'll take a look at it.

 

2 hours ago, AVS said:

How about doing something with Salma, I think her name is? The one with the little quest about getting betrayed by her Argonian companion in a dungeon near the Night Gate Inn. She's both a noblewoman and a warrior, and basically just vanishes from the vanilla game after her quest. Maybe have her (or a copy of her, if that's easier) pop up in the Inn to mope around after her quest finishes, only to run into a new misfortune when someone gives her something to improve her mood.

 

Now Salma's a good vanilla NPC to use! Her quest is super simple, and she actually does vanish from the game after it (one time I tried to make her a follower, and when I left the cave I couldn't find her- turns out she literally gets disable'd as soon as you leave). It would be pretty easy and totally believable to have a copy of her appear at the Inn to have a quest attached to. Maybe I could finally have her as a follower...

 

I'll add that to my list of quest concepts. I don't know if it'll be in 1.7, but it's on my list!

 

Edited August 3, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[H Bof]

Just a quick question, I'm trying the mod for the first time on a new SE save and I just wanna test that its working but from what I can tell so far no changes are happening after triggering the curse to 100% in the MCM. I've been waiting one hour at a time for almost a day, should I be seeing changes by now? The bimbo body works in test mode in MCM if that helps at all.

[jib_buttkiss]

10 minutes ago, H Bof said:

Just a quick question, I'm trying the mod for the first time on a new SE save and I just wanna test that its working but from what I can tell so far no changes are happening after triggering the curse to 100% in the MCM. I've been waiting one hour at a time for almost a day, should I be seeing changes by now? The bimbo body works in test mode in MCM if that helps at all.

 

Well, it takes at least a day for a change to happen, so you should be almost there! But if you don't want to spend hours just testing it works, turn the "Hours Per Curse Stage" down in the MCM to 1 hour so you get a change every hour instead of every day.

 

The curse takes 16 stages to fully apply, and there aren't any effects other than a message box for the first two stages, so for testing you'll want to make it faster.

Edited August 3, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[H Bof]

4 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Well, it takes at least a day for a change to happen, so you should be almost there! But if you don't want to spend hours just testing it works, turn the "Hours Per Curse Stage" down in the MCM to 1 hour so you get a change every hour instead of every day.

 

The curse takes 16 stages to fully apply, and there aren't any effects other than a message box for the first two stages, so for testing you'll want to make it faster.

Thanks for the quick reply! I got around spamming wait by changing timescale to 2000 lol. So far it's mostly working with the morph side of things but things like hair and overlays aren't changing, would you have any ideas why? I'm using the most recent yps for SE if it changes them through that.

[Balgin]

37 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Alva's another NPC connected to a complex quest- one where she dies, even. It's not a main story quest sure, but a lot of interactions in Morthal are gated behind its completion.

 

Glad you said it before I did although Alva's quest might make Morthal the perfect location for a vampire bimbo (or the worst possible location - a bimbo probably wouldn't be subtle enough for Alva's quest to be something the people are only vaguely aware of). It all depends. Is she a bimbo who turned into a vampire or a vampire who turned into a bimbo? If it's the former she might not understand which bodily fluid she needs to extract from people to sustain her existence and might be going around giving everyone blow jobs and wondering why she still feels hungry afterwards. If it's the latter then remember that the body morphs don't always work on vampires so she might look rather normal from the neck down.

 

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Now Salma's a good vanilla NPC to use! 

What about Erdi? She's always been skulking around the Blue Palace, skiving off work while she's daydreaming, asking the dragonborn to take her adventuring with them..... I mean, I know there's the Blue Palace Beauties mod (with it's invisible hand models because the mod's pointing to the wrong models and folders for the hands) and I know there's Erdi Goes Adventuring (which is sadly incompatible with Blue Palace Beauties no matter how hard I tried). Might Erdi, the wannabe Follower be a suitable character for a tag along bimbo? I know she can be used in one game quest but there's an alternative route.

Edited August 3, 2023 by Balgin

[SkyAddiction]

43 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Good point about how it won't work for followers though- in the same way, it won't work for bimbofications, unless you try to justify why their tits shrink back down and they can talk straight again while they're in the Blue Palace.

 

Yup. Doppelganger issues can be a pain in the ass.

 

The riskiest thing I had going was a quest from Siddgeir where I had to disable him and enable his clone every time the player entered his hall to advance the quest, then switch him back when the player left so he could behave normally again. It's much easier to make secret meetings outside, or even better, in a different interior cell so you can just switch the clone on and off. If you're using clones for scenes, having the clone leave first is better dedication to the bit, but just sending the player out the door first and in a different direction from where the NPC usually stays is much easier. I don't think many people are going to head off to immediately talk to an NPC they think they just spoke to.

[Wut1969]

The Bossy Bimbo, would that be Karen the Unbroken?

 

And unrelated;

I just would like all of you to know that last night I woke up with this absolutely fantastic idea for BoS and right now I have absolutely no idea what it was. I'm sure it would have been great and I'm also pretty sure the idea is gone forever.

 

 

[ebbluminous]

2 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

The Bossy Bimbo, would that be Karen the Unbroken?

 

And unrelated;

I just would like all of you to know that last night I woke up with this absolutely fantastic idea for BoS and right now I have absolutely no idea what it was. I'm sure it would have been great and I'm also pretty sure the idea is gone forever.

 

 

That's... very Bimbo of you

 

Another day, another idea...

 

Alchemist Bimbo. Another Bimbo who thinks they are smart. They need the player to acquire certain 'substances'  so they can can continue their research. Also a place to acquire potions with a chance to corrupt and other bimbo alchemy things - Bimbo tonics, YPS items, other potions that raise arousal and of course... Bimbo perfume! Once applied, it causes arousal of others nearby to increase until it wears off. Hmm Also need to dash off to YPS thread to suggest perfume as a fashion item!

[Naps-On-Dirt]

10 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Alva's another NPC connected to a complex quest- one where she dies, even.

Not necessarily.  Depending on the time of day and where she is and where guards are when you search her house and then report her to the Jarl, Alva will flee town and go to Morvath's (or whatever his name is) cave and sleep in the area off the main room, where one of the vampires hangs out with a bed and two bedrolls.  I've made it a habit to always let her escape, and then not aggro her when I clear the cave so she ends up being the sole vampire survivor.   The Jarl never tells me to kill -her-...

 

10 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Now Salma's a good vanilla NPC to use! Her quest is super simple, and she actually does vanish from the game after it

 

Well, unless you decide to turn her in instead of defending her from the dudes chasing her.  After helping her the first time and finding out WHY they are chasing her, now I always turn her in to them.  After that she should stay disabled because she's being transported home to Hammerfell to face charges of treason.

[jib_buttkiss]

10 hours ago, H Bof said:

Thanks for the quick reply! I got around spamming wait by changing timescale to 2000 lol. So far it's mostly working with the morph side of things but things like hair and overlays aren't changing, would you have any ideas why? I'm using the most recent yps for SE if it changes them through that.

 

Hmm, could be a lot of things. Do other Slavetats and YPS features work?

 

10 hours ago, Balgin said:

Glad you said it before I did although Alva's quest might make Morthal the perfect location for a vampire bimbo (or the worst possible location - a bimbo probably wouldn't be subtle enough for Alva's quest to be something the people are only vaguely aware of). It all depends. Is she a bimbo who turned into a vampire or a vampire who turned into a bimbo? If it's the former she might not understand which bodily fluid she needs to extract from people to sustain her existence and might be going around giving everyone blow jobs and wondering why she still feels hungry afterwards. If it's the latter then remember that the body morphs don't always work on vampires so she might look rather normal from the neck down.

 

What about Erdi? She's always been skulking around the Blue Palace, skiving off work while she's daydreaming, asking the dragonborn to take her adventuring with them..... I mean, I know there's the Blue Palace Beauties mod (with it's invisible hand models because the mod's pointing to the wrong models and folders for the hands) and I know there's Erdi Goes Adventuring (which is sadly incompatible with Blue Palace Beauties no matter how hard I tried). Might Erdi, the wannabe Follower be a suitable character for a tag along bimbo? I know she can be used in one game quest but there's an alternative route.

 

Interesting fact- if a woman is afflicted with the vampiric disease and bimbo curse at the same time in just the right way, she ends up turning into a bimbo-esque vampire who feeds on semen to survive instead of blood. Of course, it's such a specific set of circumstances that it won't happen to the player or anyone they know, but this new NPC in Rorikstead...

 

Erdi's not a bad idea. If I do end up making more followers, she's a good pick for one.

 

16 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Not necessarily.  Depending on the time of day and where she is and where guards are when you search her house and then report her to the Jarl, Alva will flee town and go to Morvath's (or whatever his name is) cave and sleep in the area off the main room, where one of the vampires hangs out with a bed and two bedrolls.  I've made it a habit to always let her escape, and then not aggro her when I clear the cave so she ends up being the sole vampire survivor.   The Jarl never tells me to kill -her-...

 

 

Well, unless you decide to turn her in instead of defending her from the dudes chasing her.  After helping her the first time and finding out WHY they are chasing her, now I always turn her in to them.  After that she should stay disabled because she's being transported home to Hammerfell to face charges of treason.

 

Yeah, Alva can survive, but it's not really a typical endstate for that quest- you have to go out of your way to end it with her alive. And then I'm not sure she offers anything particularly special that's unique to her character- if I want to bimbofy an evil seductress vampire, it's probably easier to just make a new one in another town than to fight the game to make it happen to Alva.

 

 

You're thinking of Saadia, from Whiterun. Salma is the one with a quest in Ironbind Barrow. She's a nobleman's naive daughter looking for adventure, and she has an Argonian bodyguard her father sent with her. They ask you for help clearing the place, the bodyguard betrays her at the end so you kill him, she's sad about it, and then you leave and she's removed from the game and never referenced again.

[Sielgaudys]

The funny thing with Alva in my game, is that I got Radiant Prostitution mod working, and it makes it so that NPCs that wear tavern clothes work as prostitutes on their own, at least when you are in the same location (cell) with them and maybe under some other conditions. I think with that mod Alva should be doing it too, but since Tarria moves in and wears those clothes, she keeps stealing the clients! I don't know if Alva would ever bang Tarria (didn't observe that yet)  but if that would happen then I think it's possible (but very slow and unlikely) that Alva would build up bimbo corruption on her own. Oh, and similar thing happens with Lyvelia, it seems, when she's not fully bimbo yet and doesn't wear mesh miniskirt, although I'm not sure if she gives corruption when having sex with her at that stage. 

 

On another note, how do you guys rate this mods bimbos/sluts? For me Lyvvi is probably the favorite from the pure bimbos and Telariel from the sluts. 

[Wut1969]

7 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

That's... very Bimbo of you

Ah, that is so sweet of you.  ? ? ?

 

 

Anyway, for once my braincell was activated again. Too bad my bright moment wasn't used for work related things, but maybe next week it'll be different.

 

It's not really a new idea, but with all the curse increasers and decreasers that are on their way, maybe @jib_buttkisscan be convinced to implement it.

 

Let's say that at 20% corruption you get a 1% chance per hour to have arousal increased by say upto 50 points. And with 40, 60% etc., the chances increase further. These aren't extreme chances, but defintely noticable when having a normalish playthrough and doing normal quests. When Bimbofied, the effect probably can be turned off, as the speech thingy takes over.

In itself, the effect is quite harmless, but depending on the other mods one has, the effect can be very noticable and it would give a PC a good reason to start using the different ways to lower their corruption level, where, at the moment, there is not really a good incentive from a roleplaying perspective.

And everyone, with their modlist, can decide themselves how invasive the effect would be on their game.

 

 

 

 

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

4 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

You're thinking of Saadia, from Whiterun. Salma is the one with a quest in Ironbind Barrow. She's a nobleman's naive daughter looking for adventure, and she has an Argonian bodyguard her father sent with her. They ask you for help clearing the place, the bodyguard betrays her at the end so you kill him, she's sad about it, and then you leave and she's removed from the game and never referenced again.

 

Oops, yep, I was.  I know the Salma quest, yeah she'd be perfect to make use of somehow when her quest is done.

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, Wut1969 said:

Ah, that is so sweet of you.  ? ? ?

 

 

Anyway, for once my braincell was activated again. Too bad my bright moment wasn't used for work related things, but maybe next week it'll be different.

 

It's not really a new idea, but with all the curse increasers and decreasers that are on their way, maybe @jib_buttkisscan be convinced to implement it.

 

Let's say that at 20% corruption you get a 1% chance per hour to have arousal increased by say upto 50 points. And with 40, 60% etc., the chances increase further. These aren't extreme chances, but defintely noticable when having a normalish playthrough and doing normal quests. When Bimbofied, the effect probably can be turned off, as the speech thingy takes over.

In itself, the effect is quite harmless, but depending on the other mods one has, the effect can be very noticable and it would give a PC a good reason to start using the different ways to lower their corruption level, where, at the moment, there is not really a good incentive from a roleplaying perspective.

And everyone, with their modlist, can decide themselves how invasive the effect would be on their game.

 

 

 

 

 

I like that idea

[Wut1969]

21 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

 

Oops, yep, I was.  I know the Salma quest, yeah she'd be perfect to make use of somehow when her quest is done.

Her father left her a box with her mothers belongings, a woman who sadly disappeared from their lifes when Salma was very young. I wonder what is in the box that Pandora left behind.

[H Bof]

8 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm, could be a lot of things. Do other Slavetats and YPS features work?

Yes and no so it could be YPS, I'll have to do some further testing with the hair because it seems some of the new Tuillius hairs I downloaded that YPS detected in my load order aren't working through YPS (I think cause some have spaces in the names?) while most other hairs and changes work through YPS. I think I may have just been unlucky and BOS/YPS (whichever is in charge for the BOS change when YPS is installed) tried to change to a specific style that isn't working so the hair didn't change. 

 

As for overlays/slavetats they all load manually through ST just fine for both BOS and YPS so I'm not missing the textures, but I haven't been able to get any overlays to apply automatically in YPS for a long time and have yet to find the issue or conflict causing it . So those didn't apply through BOS either but I didn't mention that because I'm 99% that's an issue with my YPS.

[Karkhel]

1 hour ago, H Bof said:

As for overlays/slavetats they all load manually through ST just fine for both BOS and YPS so I'm not missing the textures, but I haven't been able to get any overlays to apply automatically in YPS for a long time and have yet to find the issue or conflict causing it . So those didn't apply through BOS either but I didn't mention that because I'm 99% that's an issue with my YPS.

The most basic question but its something people often miss, did you increase the number of nioverride overlays? This can be an issue if you have other mods that uses those. And there are a few mods that do.