SexLab Defeat

[monsta88]

It would be nice if there would be an option (checkbox) so only the unblocked power attacks could stun the character. that would add some tactical depth to the game.

 

 

[jianshi051]

I have the follower issue....

When my follower is defeated and after being raped. She stand up and never do anything...

[Ruffled Pigeon]

 

same here.

Some other things:

I'm still trying to figure out how to erase tags for animations. Description says "the default key (Z)". Maybe it's a not so perfect description, but since neither z, nor y (german keyboard), or any of the keys i set in defeat works: What is meant by "the default key"? Default for what? No matter what i press, it's always the 'add tag' menu which appears.

 

Aye, fellow german keyboard user here.

Not sure if this is only a problem for us, but pressing Z, or Y for that matter (Z and Y have switched positions on the german keyboard when comparing to the english one) does nothing at all.

 

Other than that I can't complain at all, awesome mod, have used it since a while and will continue to do so.

[magicrealm]

the hit you get when under 20% mostly reaches 0hp and ends in death and not in a rape. cant the rape already start when the pc comes under 20 % ? or,  optional, rape instead of dead, when hp reaches 0 ? i know this is possible wiith death alternative, but that mods has it s own problems i dont want to get.

 

sorry for multiple posts.  i posted it just in the moment when maintenance started, thats why it happened.

[D_ManXX2]

Magic not sure what the deal is with your internet connection but in my country a 1 time send message is enough to get your point across instead of spamming 4 times.

[Goubo]

Hey Goubo. Being stuck in the animation bug returned for me. When i succesfully defend from rape atempt the agresor is flung away and im stuck lying on the ground in strugle animation. Combat resums and im pumeled to death on the ground. Also the player knock down animation doesn't play for me. When my character is defeated she just stands in idle pose. I gues its not that bad cuz lack of animation playing means i can move if i "strafe" out of it. Do you know how to fix that?

 

same here.

Some other things:

I'm still trying to figure out how to erase tags for animations. Description says "the default key (Z)". Maybe it's a not so perfect description, but since neither z, nor y (german keyboard), or any of the keys i set in defeat works: What is meant by "the default key"? Default for what? No matter what i press, it's always the 'add tag' menu which appears.

 

Beside that: If i press the modifier key while in MCM, i can't quit it anymore. I'm still able to klick at all configs with mouse, e and enter, but no matter what i'm doing, esc for quitting doesn't work anymore.

 

And i wonder... it was defeat which let me mark (default with 'n') a sexlab scene whthout player involved and use the sexlab keys to adjust them, right? Has this been removed?

 

I don't know if it's a bug or intentional that i can't move after blackout. I will recover after some time, but it's always buggy, some things keep stuck, like my head for example won't move anymore. A workaround is: starting masturbation via sexlab hotkey, which is maybe funny for some time, but quite annoying if you wake up in a lake, unable to move and forced to masturbate to regain controls. If there is already an option to turn that off, can somebody show it to me? If not, i'd really appretiate that.

 

Mias Lair allows to enslave followers or more accurate, train them as sex slaves, any but only followers. Not sure if it would be a good idea to make everybody you beat a follower, here is a link to the mainpage though. I couldn't find an api in short, maybe ask fishburger or aqqh if there is one.

 

 

- The player should get up with a fast get up animation right after a resist success... will check.

 

- The default MCM key that you can see bottom left of the screen, you don't have to click on the option just mouse over it then press the key.

I've noticed the key dosen't work during a SexLab scene, because of the commands disabled probably.

 

- No, it's SL tools that lets you press a key to open a list with every actor involved in a SL scene and control them.

N is the default SexLab key to mark a NPC, also the key to check their arousal.

 

- You mean you are stuck after a left for dead scenario? Knockdown or knockout?

 

- About Mias lair I'll see.

 

It would be nice if there would be an option (checkbox) so only the unblocked power attacks could stun the character. that would add some tactical depth to the game.

Next version.

 

I have the follower issue.... When my follower is defeated and after being raped. She stand up and never do anything...

Npc vs npc?

 

the hit you get when under 20% mostly reaches 0hp and ends in death and not in a rape. cant the rape already start when the pc comes under 20 % ? or,  optional, rape instead of dead, when hp reaches 0 ? i know this is possible wiith death alternative, but that mods has it s own problems i dont want to get.

I can only deal with hit events, there is no event that fires when the player reach a certain amount of health, papyrus language has its limits.

[iamknotsatisfied]

Will there be improvements to player as aggressor with creatures in the next version?

[Goubo]

Ok found my problem about the function running multiple times, damn there is nothing better than found out the why in a incomprehensible code problem like this, I feel free.

 

 

Will there be improvements to player as aggressor with creatures in the next version?

Gonna see what I can do yes.

[ImmortalDreamer27]

Hi Goubo, I'm having an issue where after surrender or being knocked down the animations just won't play. SL recognizes that an animation is supposed to play, prompts me as to what animation has been selected, but then everyone just stands around naked like a bunch of confused virgins before resuming the actual combat. not sure if this has to do with Defeat or the SL framework.

[magicrealm]

 

What has defeat to do with consensual sex ? as i have experienced defeat for years now, when player is defeated, thats the name, a rape starts, which isnt consensual.  so this is made not only for defeat but involves sexlab and other mods.  how can this ever work well and for what sense. it is just what 4000ms script delay says.

 

It is part of Player prostitution & proposal part of the mod. I am personally very happy that it was included; it will spare me from adding other mods to play trough with such theme. That saves stress from my game, seeing that I do not need to run extra checks from other mods.

 

@Goubo. BTW, thank's for this feature.

 

 

this does not work.  version 5.3.2 player as aggrssor, player as victm, npc vs npc , all enabled.  npc under crosshair  (n arousal work, sexlab selected work) surrender key pressed,  nothing happened.

 

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

*snip*

- The player should get up with a fast get up animation right after a resist success... will check.

 

I even disabled resist, but i get up without animation nevertheless. Maybe i need to disable "Necromantic aborbation" in dead or alive?

 

- The default MCM key that you can see bottom left of the screen, you don't have to click on the option just mouse over it then press the key.

I've noticed the key dosen't work during a SexLab scene, because of the commands disabled probably.

 

- No, it's SL tools that lets you press a key to open a list with every actor involved in a SL scene and control them.

N is the default SexLab key to mark a NPC, also the key to check their arousal.

 

- You mean you are stuck after a left for dead scenario? Knockdown or knockout?

 

I'm not sure what's the difference between knockout and knockdwon, but it happens every time after awakening after a scene. After both rescued and left for dead and even when i blackout after surrender and rape. Maybe i should mention that i have dead or alive as well, but there it's ok usually, just sometimes my screen stays black. I've set it to bleedout only, but there is no difference between blackout and ragdoll or bleedout only or nothing as far as i can say.

 

- About Mias lair I'll see.

 

It would be nice if there would be an option (checkbox) so only the unblocked power attacks could stun the character. that would add some tactical depth to the game.

Next version.

 

I have the follower issue.... When my follower is defeated and after being raped. She stand up and never do anything...

Npc vs npc?

 

the hit you get when under 20% mostly reaches 0hp and ends in death and not in a rape. cant the rape already start when the pc comes under 20 % ? or,  optional, rape instead of dead, when hp reaches 0 ? i know this is possible wiith death alternative, but that mods has it s own problems i dont want to get.

I can only deal with hit events, there is no event that fires when the player reach a certain amount of health, papyrus language has its limits.

 

CPU wants to implement it in his Scent of Sex, maybe he knows a trick? Don't know if it's still planned or if it already should work, didn't try yet.

 

Thanks for your work!

 

 

Hi Goubo, I'm having an issue where after surrender or being knocked down the animations just won't play. SL recognizes that an animation is supposed to play, prompts me as to what animation has been selected, but then everyone just stands around naked like a bunch of confused virgins before resuming the actual combat. not sure if this has to do with Defeat or the SL framework.

 

 

Sounds like scriptlag to me. If you don't want or can't reduce it, try to add this in your Skyrim.ini:

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=1.8 ; < should be between 1.2 (default) and 2, will decrease performance but give scripts more time to finish.

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.8 < similar, but different tasks if i remember right.

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000.0 < default is 500, additional time in ms you see the loadscreen to give scripts some more time to load.

iMinMemoryPageSize=128

iMaxMemoryPageSize=768

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=2147483647 

 

*edit: after thinking about it... there are several possible reasons. First, make sure SL is able to play animations at all, maybe with matchmaker. Then, if you have played with tags make sure there is a possible animation to play which fits the rules.

[jianshi051]

Yes, NPC vs NPC... when my follower being raped, she was just standing there and don't do anything, just like her stuck there....   

 

And may I have a little suggestion here?  maybe you could consider to standalone the voice when being knock down(which magic said ugly voice...sorry for me to use this word) so I can replace by my self... Because I have been using my custom japanese female voice in SL framework for very long time... and my voice is somekind of young lady, but when I was defeated, the voice from vanilla is much older and not fitted for my PC... this may feel not immersive for me.... 

 

And last, thank you for your great mod!!! 

[Nazzzgul666]

Btw: is there a way to configure defeat that followers are raped even if the player is still up? I've tried with 'All down' on my side and 'Transitional' for Lydia, but at least creatures attack me after she is down.

[Morferous]

 

this does not work.  version 5.3.2 player as aggrssor, player as victm, npc vs npc , all enabled.  npc under crosshair  (n arousal work, sexlab selected work) surrender key pressed,  nothing happened.

It does work in my game. That is really all I can say, without knowing anything about your game.

[monsta88]

 

 

It would be nice if there would be an option (checkbox) so only the unblocked power attacks could stun the character. that would add some tactical depth to the game.

Next version.

 

 

Awesome, thank you very much!

[crusher]

idea, suggestion: "auto-surrender", sort of a non-violent gameplay style; a way to prostitute a way through a human populated dungeon/area to reach a mission objective. Hostility could be tied to Arousal State, so basically you'd be fighting against arousal, subduing arousal, Speech perks/level could also play a role. Sort of a Defeating Arousal feature. Difficulty could be increased by requiring more time to wipe arousal during SL encounters (used on other prostitution mods, longer the sex the better the outcome). Might even be interesting to explore hostility only by the aroused.   

 

Love all the unique features, been using them to great effect. Have found some cool uses: example Cast Harmony Spell, sneak and tie-up hostiles, or sneak/invisibility to mission objective, bag and drag mission objective back to quest giver; make quest giver a follower (EFF); release bagged captive and untie -- let quest giver/follower do the dirty work.  Eager NPCs fires when 'dungeon cleared' bell rings -- orgy of celebration wherever the execution occurs --- middle of town. Probably a dozen other mods in there creating emergent conditions. 

 

Has anyone tested Defeat with this new combat mod: Vigor Combat and Injuries, see how well they play together? Going to give it a try. 

[Chosen Clue]

Hey Goubo, may I make a suggestion?

 

I noticed that there is the functionality of raping someone while they're asleep, but there isn't a tagging system to only have sleeping animations when sleep raping. Is this on purpose?

 

If it's not, will there be special animation filtering for player as aggressor on a sleeping victim?

[roxysummernight]

Hey Goubo. Being stuck in the animation bug returned for me. When i succesfully defend from rape atempt the agresor is flung away and im stuck lying on the ground in strugle animation. Combat resums and im pumeled to death on the ground. Also the player knock down animation doesn't play for me. When my character is defeated she just stands in idle pose. I gues its not that bad cuz lack of animation playing means i can move if i "strafe" out of it. Do you know how to fix that?

 

 

Hi Goubo, I'm having an issue where after surrender or being knocked down the animations just won't play. SL recognizes that an animation is supposed to play, prompts me as to what animation has been selected, but then everyone just stands around naked like a bunch of confused virgins before resuming the actual combat. not sure if this has to do with Defeat or the SL framework.

 

Similar problem here. I used a new playthrough to test this mod. My character will fall from being wounded or when surrendering, get stripped etc, but the rape never happens. Instead, enemies go back to being hostile and beat my character while she's stuck in the defeated pose on the ground. Sometimes, the enemies will go back to doing whatever they were doing, like my character was not there. Is there an animation package that I should install as well, other than SexLab Framework?

 

I used both 5.3.2 and the previous 5.2.2 for the first time, both attempts I had this problem. I disabled many script mods I used one by one and it doesn't appear like there is any conflict between them. Unless Alternate Start was the conflicting mod? Since I never disabled it.

[redrustred]

Dude, this is an awesome mod, this latest update with animation filter with tags just made this mod alot better.

 

Though I must report on a problem, when npc surrenders to the player, if say my character fails his rape attempt and gets pushed off, he cant draw his weapons.

 

I also realised that there are missing tags used by creature animations like "FC" and "MC"

 

I also have a request, could you maybe add a function for pc aggression agains creatures? or even threesome with 2 victims?

[Nazzzgul666]

Didn't have time to fully test, but i've learned that many of my problems are gone when i set the option for DA to 0, so they aren't caused by defeat but DA instead. WIth new Simply Slavery option, there is little reason to use DA at all for me.

[Oarman]

I just realized how broken defeat is when your actually playing the game

 

If you have around 1500-2000 gold at a low level and go to a trainer, train 5 levels.

Just choke hold the npc after you've leveled up and check their inventory, and there's your gold you spent

Take it and repeat, you can get to around level 15-25 with this and a high level for a specific skill tree.

Exploits to the max

[GregariousGibbon]

You know you can just add septims via the console right? Not much different to exploiting a mod. Tbh skyrim is fairly bad at having value for septims anyway, the best gear is stuff you can get by looting or crafting, rather than merchants.

[Roxasvent13]

Add player essential to the mod we're begging you! lol

[thenintendobox]

Add player essential to the mod we're begging you! lol

i wonder if using the tim console command and installing a no kill moves mod will work

[Roxasvent13]

 

Add player essential to the mod we're begging you! lol

i wonder if using the tim console command and installing a no kill moves mod will work

 

It does work but not only does that take up an esp slot (which for me i can only use 40) but you have to type tim every time you start up Skyrim. (even after CTD) Having the player as essential or immortal by Sexlab Defeat would allow a lot of time and space.  If helpful Deviously cursed loot Has the Player essential mode I am referring to.