SexLab Defeat

[jianshi051]

so you say you dont touch expression, but how comes this expreession then after defeat rape ? i have expressions disabled in sexlab.

then, after the rape, before you get control back of your character this ugly voice comes. this voice must be from skyrim vanilla sounds, i didnt found this sound in zaz or anywhere.

this voice comes always in such situations ( also whipping, milkomatic etc) when no other voice has been created for it.

very often defeat does not react when my charater is clearly under 20% health. it never reacts when the health is 0- character dies, that is why i tried death alternative (again), but

there i got the same problem as in defeat aftermath events : character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

follower stay much longer in bleedout animation,. character has to fight alone to the end.

well you can say my game has other issues. i doubt that all i find in defeat comes from other issues. i can not place everything to maria edens faullt. (but most)

defeat was a simple and perfect mod long ago, before death alternative came. no ugly scream voice, no coverself, fast reacting.

 

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats.  and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

and try to find that voice please.

 

Please watch your tone! Goubo didn't owe anybody anything, he share what he do his best for us without your money or anything...

I'm very grateful for his great effort..

So do respect the author and make proper suggestion. 

 

BTW, I think the voice you mention is come from vanilla game.. but it just fine...

[D_ManXX2]

Either he is using a very terrible Google translator or English is not his native language. Magic if English is difficult for you you could try German, right now people look at your comment me too, and think that you are just trolling instead of really Telling what the problem is.

 

You have not supply any load order, mod list what type of pc you are using. Without these no one is capable to even begin helping you.

[btasqan]

 

Does the current version have a disable prostitution dialogue option ?

No, why? It's hidden so just don't use it?

 

 

Cause thats one thing that made your work significant and neat, option to choose to want or not want a feature. That simple.

[D_ManXX2]

Goubo i was checking mod list and comaptibility and looked like devious device was also option in this version of defeat. does this mean that defeat now uses deveious devices or do i need the other mod to make defeat use devious devices ??

 

Mod name is Devious capture:

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27893-devious-captures/

[WaxenFigure]

so you say you dont touch expression, but how comes this expreession then after defeat rape ? i have expressions disabled in sexlab.

then, after the rape, before you get control back of your character this ugly voice comes. this voice must be from skyrim vanilla sounds, i didnt found this sound in zaz or anywhere.

this voice comes always in such situations ( also whipping, milkomatic etc) when no other voice has been created for it.

very often defeat does not react when my charater is clearly under 20% health. it never reacts when the health is 0- character dies, that is why i tried death alternative (again), but

there i got the same problem as in defeat aftermath events : character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

follower stay much longer in bleedout animation,. character has to fight alone to the end.

well you can say my game has other issues. i doubt that all i find in defeat comes from other issues. i can not place everything to maria edens faullt. (but most)

defeat was a simple and perfect mod long ago, before death alternative came. no ugly scream voice, no coverself, fast reacting.

 

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats.  and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

and try to find that voice please.

If the author says this mod doesn't alter expressions then I would be pretty certain he knows what he is talking about. You on the other hand have a long history of getting something stuck in your head and failing to give it up until we rub your nose in it.

 

Perhaps just once you could stop and consider what other mods might be interacting with this one and examine those mods to see which one is changing the expression instead of stubbornly repeating the same accusation.

[hamthe3rd]

There is one other mod that uses the cover up animation (not sure where they got the animation or if it from one of the staple mods or not) Sexlab Sexual Fame uses it, and it tends to have the character covering herself even when dressed. I uninstalled that mess.

[Guest]

Did any of you guys also can't rob armor through inventory option or is it just me?

[Doma]

I like the mod, and this wont stop me from playing, but why are there no voices?

[Dark_Fenix]

Cheers, I want to do a observation,

I will say first, I do not have a powerful pc, I have 250 plugins and I have heavy mod (frostfall, cloak of skyrim, wet and cold, etc), so I know sometimes I will have some conflicts.

I install defeat 3.5.2, but when I defeated in battle only appears the bar, I have two follower but never knocked out (I made sure to have the correct options in defeat menu), to reduce mods I uninstall sexlab eager because I have sexlab confort, and when I returned to play, it worked, as much as agressor and victim (also the follower option agressor or victim), but here is where I want to ask.

The follower as aggressors, I have two followers, let's say they go to rape a X victim, if they do a thresome, no problems, but if the message says they are go to rape, but only one take part, the other stays as waiting their turn, but the first end and the second does nothing. The bad thing is that the second follower It stays there, You can not talk to him, if you go away does not follow you, if teleports, He walks to where the person who was going to rape it's found. Why is this happening?

another thing, if you rape a person asleep in a bed, when it ends the person is under the bed, any way to fix this, and the disabling teleport from sexlab It is a great option for me, but to work properly sexlab defeat, must be disabled, there any way for that option not work with rape, and so we can use it without problem with this mod

and a question, follower as agressor, It could be done only when they have a certain number of aroused.

 

the above problem persists, uninstall, clean data and install again, but still the problem, and I note that also if by mistake kill the npc that my follower It was heading to rape, ocurrs the same (You can not talk to him, if you go away does not follow you, if teleports, she walks to where the person who was going to rape it's found.)

I want to ask something else, that's just out of curiosity, the tag rape, It recognizes who will rape and who will be receive?, I ask because I noticed that whenever a woman (pc or npc) will rape a man, almost 99% of the time uses animations in which is her that receives, (I have the latest update of the great animations like funnybizness).

greetings and pass a good night

 

[jlttsmiley]

so you say you dont touch expression, but how comes this expreession then after defeat rape ? i have expressions disabled in sexlab.

then, after the rape, before you get control back of your character this ugly voice comes. this voice must be from skyrim vanilla sounds, i didnt found this sound in zaz or anywhere.

this voice comes always in such situations ( also whipping, milkomatic etc) when no other voice has been created for it.

very often defeat does not react when my charater is clearly under 20% health. it never reacts when the health is 0- character dies, that is why i tried death alternative (again), but

there i got the same problem as in defeat aftermath events : character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

follower stay much longer in bleedout animation,. character has to fight alone to the end.

well you can say my game has other issues. i doubt that all i find in defeat comes from other issues. i can not place everything to maria edens faullt. (but most)

defeat was a simple and perfect mod long ago, before death alternative came. no ugly scream voice, no coverself, fast reacting.

 

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats. and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

and try to find that voice please.

[jlttsmiley]

I don,T beleive it GOUBO I do believe MAGIC just gave you a compliment qoute " it was simple an prefect " MAGIC as we all know you complain about the version of DEFEAT you just just called prefect be patient he still working on this version.

[ZoanChrome]

so you say you dont touch expression, but how comes this expreession then after defeat rape ? i have expressions disabled in sexlab.

then, after the rape, before you get control back of your character this ugly voice comes. this voice must be from skyrim vanilla sounds, i didnt found this sound in zaz or anywhere.

this voice comes always in such situations ( also whipping, milkomatic etc) when no other voice has been created for it.

very often defeat does not react when my charater is clearly under 20% health. it never reacts when the health is 0- character dies, that is why i tried death alternative (again), but

there i got the same problem as in defeat aftermath events : character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

follower stay much longer in bleedout animation,. character has to fight alone to the end.

well you can say my game has other issues. i doubt that all i find in defeat comes from other issues. i can not place everything to maria edens faullt. (but most)

defeat was a simple and perfect mod long ago, before death alternative came. no ugly scream voice, no coverself, fast reacting.

 

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats.  and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

and try to find that voice please.

Have you try to reduce your mods (the ones using a lot of scripts, like npc mods), sometimes a never react defeat sometimes caused by script lag, or too low health treshold, or too little free memory space, or another mod malfuction (like MNC when you have too much sex with a single creature and the creature won't detect you as enemy anymore) 

 

little memory space can be RAM or GPU, for example you have your desktop wallpaper auto changing every 5 minutes, then expect lag or fps stuttering while that happens, or you have desktop gadgets like clock etc.

 

character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

 

you mean the hud is appearing but you can't move or the hud didn't appear anymore and you can't move?

if you set post assault to DA event or another event, try to change the post assault to END (the rape would end without any event like left for dead somewhere or robbed) to minimize any script lag problem

 

about voice, for as long as I have used this mod (guess from 5.0) I have never heard of ugly voice except from sexlab itself and armor re-equipping sounds

 

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats.  and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

 

and if you think this mod gives you more problem rather than pleasure feel free to uninstall it, the guide is in the main download page rather than mocking someone abilities in modding though you are better or not better than him/her.

If you can't keep up your temper here, no one will answer your problems A N Y M O R E

 

or, why don't you make your own SL Defeat? I will try it for you.

[ZoanChrome]

Oh, and yeah,I have a question
I enable foreplay animation in SL framework, and it always played whenever I try to Rape someone (5.1.0) but after 5.3.1 no foreplay played instead main rape animation

I have SL Eager Npc, SL Further Lover's Comfort, and foreplay is always played when I trigger sex from them

 

did you block the foreplay animations for rape? (if there's a note in change log about this, sorry I didn't read it)

[DeathNWhite]

I downloaded this mod but when I use MO and click "install a new mod from an archive" it isn't there. What do I do? 

[aim4it]

I downloaded this mod but when I use MO and click "install a new mod from an archive" it isn't there. What do I do? 

 

Try dropping the archive in '...Mod Organizer/Downloads'

[Goubo]

so you say you dont touch expression, but how comes this expreession then after defeat rape ? i have expressions disabled in sexlab.

then, after the rape, before you get control back of your character this ugly voice comes. this voice must be from skyrim vanilla sounds, i didnt found this sound in zaz or anywhere.

this voice comes always in such situations ( also whipping, milkomatic etc) when no other voice has been created for it.

very often defeat does not react when my charater is clearly under 20% health. it never reacts when the health is 0- character dies, that is why i tried death alternative (again), but

there i got the same problem as in defeat aftermath events : character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

follower stay much longer in bleedout animation,. character has to fight alone to the end.

well you can say my game has other issues. i doubt that all i find in defeat comes from other issues. i can not place everything to maria edens faullt. (but most)

defeat was a simple and perfect mod long ago, before death alternative came. no ugly scream voice, no coverself, fast reacting.

 

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats.  and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

and try to find that voice please.

Ok, asked so politely...

 

- I do not touch anything related to expressions, period.

 

- Ungly voices, do you mean vanilla moaning after you get up to escape? If so would it hurt you to ask me nicely if I could put an option to remove those? You are the only one that asked me this so far or I should say ranted about it but no problem I can do that.

 

- About the reactivity on the OnHit event, there is a simple reason to that, I has to put a 2 seconds cooldown between OnHit events for perfomance issues because surprisely enough Papyrus script system isn't great and it would create bottlenecks especially for magic that spams the onhit event.

But I can tell you how to remove it you will just have to remove 4 lines of code and compile the script if you want.

This issue isn't one if you character doesn't die in 3 hits, try to lvl up a char more than lvl 10.

You can also use Death alternative to start Defeat and disable all the knockdown way of Defeat, it's not perfect because it will only use one aggressor but if the witness system of Defeat is enabled the other interested aggressor will be added to the scene, works quite well.

 

- Followers stay too much in bleedout, isn't why the mod is done for? Did you know you can get them up by using revive?

 

- You can disable the cover self animation.

 

- I have abosolutely no problem will controls not given back, something must conflict with Defeat somehow.

 

Did any of you guys also can't rob armor through inventory option or is it just me?

Yeah I will re-enable the option except if I can find out why changing outfit on some people dosen't make their armor/clothes show up in their inventory and fix it.

 

I like the mod, and this wont stop me from playing, but why are there no voices?

Make sure you use the last version on SexLab.

 

Oh, and yeah,I have a question

I enable foreplay animation in SL framework, and it always played whenever I try to Rape someone (5.1.0) but after 5.3.1 no foreplay played instead main rape animation

I have SL Eager Npc, SL Further Lover's Comfort, and foreplay is always played when I trigger sex from them

 

did you block the foreplay animations for rape? (if there's a note in change log about this, sorry I didn't read it)

No not particulary, there is always a victim in the sex scene (except consensual) so it shouldn't play the foreplay phase in theory, don't know why it played foreplay animations for you before.

 

 

 

Cause thats one thing that made your work significant and neat, option to choose to want or not want a feature. That simple.

I'm sorry but I'm having a hard time to understand you point of view about this, why do you want to disable something you don't use? Just don't use it, where's the problem? 

Adding a condition to the dialogues for them to not appear won't change anything because they won't appear anyway if you don't use it.

[magicrealm]

thanks for answering it.

yes , the voice is from skyrim vanilla, a couple of mods use it whenever you dont have a gag on.

 

follower on botton wasnt such long in earlier versions of defeat. they stood up when character stood up.

 

face expression without sexlab enabled and lagging time must come from maria eden.  without the features of maria eden i wouldnt play skyrim at all anymore.

 

 

[JuliusXX]

 

follower on botton wasnt such long in earlier versions of defeat. they stood up when character stood up.

 

 

Not sure if you mean this one but there's an option in MCM under NPC vs NPC, called "knock down duration". I actually use this setting to keep the followers down longer so that my sneaky bow using character also gets attacked before the follower comes back to fight.

[magicrealm]

 

 

follower on botton wasnt such long in earlier versions of defeat. they stood up when character stood up.

 

 

Not sure if you mean this one but there's an option in MCM under NPC vs NPC, called "knock down duration". I actually use this setting to keep the followers down longer so that my sneaky bow using character also gets attacked before the follower comes back to fi

 

i use the minimum of 30 seconds. i think the follower is longer down.

[gooser]

Anyone know how to fix this?

 

[03/11/2016 - 11:50:22AM] Error: Cannot call GetCombatTarget() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[alias FollowerFemale1 on quest DefeatNPCMonitorQst (A506E968)].defeatnvnonhitscr.OnEnterBleedout() - "DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc" Line 77

[WaxenFigure]

Anyone know how to fix this?

 

 

[03/11/2016 - 11:50:22AM] Error: Cannot call GetCombatTarget() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[alias FollowerFemale1 on quest DefeatNPCMonitorQst (A506E968)].defeatnvnonhitscr.OnEnterBleedout() - "DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc" Line 77

 

Yes, line 77 of the DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc script uses a variable called "Victim" but it has not yet been initialized, line 78 is where that variable gets initialized. Swap those two lines and recompile the script and it will work.

[meme supreme]

Probably just an unrelated issue but I thought I'd comment anyways. If Serana is my follower, knockdown happens, stripping, everything triggers fine but when it comes to actually performing the animation it just snaps out and restarts combat. The console logs Sexlab outputs say that there are unfinished(?) threads with the actors currently trying to put in an animation, but if I move Serana out of the cell and redo the knockdown blah blah stuff, the animation & everything triggers fine.

 

[street2]

I also encountered a problem with a follower, no special voiced follower, just a random one.

I cant seem to let Follower Scenes get triggered when using DeathAlternative as a knockdown way. No matter what settings I use in PlayerAsVictim or NpcVsNpc.

Using Defeats Health Knockdown way there are no problems, Followers get knocked down as well and both "All Down" and "Original" options work.

But cant get a Scene triggered for the Follower through DeathAlternative...

 

Maybe its a configuration thing I did wrong, so heres what I tried:

 

1. PlayerAsVictim - turn on all Follower Options or rather let them on, they are by default

2. Didnt trigger the Follower, so activated NPCvsNPC and set Follower knockdown way as OnBleedout - since I deactivated Defeats own Knockdownways

3. Waited for Follower to enter Bleedout, then entered it myself - Follower didnt trigger any Scene, just stood up again and watched

4. Change the follower Settings in DeathAlternative, various combinations

5. Activate WitnessIntervention, since I read somewhere that it may help - Nothing triggered, Follower was a "Witness" and stopped any Scenes

6. Deactivated DeathAlternative and used Defeats Knockdown Ways - worked first try

 

Defeat is activated in DeathAlternative, no problems getting it triggered on PC, just cant get it to work for followers.

Followers work without any problems when using Defeats own Knockdown mechanisms.

Im using AFT, so does maybe AFT have problems with DeathAlternative? Did others here get their followers to work using DeathAlternatives Bleedout in order to trigger Defeat?

 

[WCSC]

I'm having an issue all of a suddden.  

 

Some draugrs are knocking my follers down and as soon as they strip my follower stands and nothing happens, when I press the ~ key I see [ssActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (OBO61EEF)>)) Actor present during alias clear!  This is usually harmlessas the alias actor will correct itself.....  this line repeats itself about 3 times and nothing happens.

 

The animations seem to work fine against the player, just not the followers

 

Sometimes asfter stripping the followw just tranitions fade out and disappears, and the Draugrs are having sex with invisible people. I also see after pressing ~ ActorAlias- Strip [False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True,]

 

 

 

Anyone run into this?

 

Help!

[Meteox]

Probably just an unrelated issue but I thought I'd comment anyways. If Serana is my follower, knockdown happens, stripping, everything triggers fine but when it comes to actually performing the animation it just snaps out and restarts combat. The console logs Sexlab outputs say that there are unfinished(?) threads with the actors currently trying to put in an animation, but if I move Serana out of the cell and redo the knockdown blah blah stuff, the animation & everything triggers fine.

 

 

 

Updated to 5.3.2 last night and had her with me (Doing the Dawnguard quest), everything was fine from my side.