Roxasvent13 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Add player essential to the mod we're begging you! loli wonder if using the tim console command and installing a no kill moves mod will workIt does work but not only does that take up an esp slot (which for me i can only use 40) but you have to type tim every time you start up Skyrim. (even after CTD) Having the player as essential or immortal by Sexlab Defeat would allow a lot of time and space. If helpful Deviously cursed loot Has the Player essential mode I am referring to.where in cursed loot is the option to make pc essentialIn sex attacks, when you select combat rape, it sets you pc to essential.All you have to do is console command setavhealth 200 then in defeat set knock down to 100 you PC will still have some health left or set health higher an set defeat to half to make sure an event happens without deathYou could but making character essential is simpler. If its apply the mod start you wouldn't have to do much just import your saved settings. If activated in settings, applying your settings would apply the essential setting. Though that would work applying it save after save is frustrating, and if other mods require health, you would need change toughs as well.Actually the easy way would be to go to the steam workshop and download the mod ' essential player character ' then you don,T have to wait my.My2cent: If there is no risk there is no reason to keep playing in a way defeat is a cheat, you cheat death it gives the player a second chance but you can still die!!! It does not change the game it adds to the game. Thats how i do it now, but since my mod list so limited (40 mods) I'm finding it hard to use defeat. if you still die with defeat, some computers cannot handle the reload system Skyrim has causing CTD. I would use submit instead but due to Defeat being so awesome with it's post defeat and striping clothes to the floor options, I'm hooked. Though if u want immersion i would suggest alternate actors since the ghost option is way better. Overall an essential button is better even if it just types tim in the console for you. on the other hand if anyone wants to point me in the direction of a player essential/immortal mod that doesn't use a .esp file that would at least alleviate my problem, and I would be most appreciative.
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 This Update ruined it for me. It takes at least 50 seconds or 2 minutes to play animations for Defeat and sometimes by the time it's finished, the aggressive sexual activities would be long over. There's also this bug where sometimes my character would surrender, but would be assaulted and dropped off at some Mammoth/Giant waypoint in Whiterun district. I have no idea why it does this; also sometimes my character would phase through the sky and drop into that area, too,, First part is a bug from defeat, Goubo is working on it. The 'falling down to giant camp' is a problem of sexlab (+ HDT + scriptlag). The scriptlag part might be caused by the bug in defeat again, but not neccessarily. I usually activate godmode while falling and in SL 1.61 will be teleported back to the scene. I'm no expert, but some edits in Skyrim.ini reduced scriptlag problems for me: [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=2 < give scripts more time to work, should be between 1.2 (default) and 2. Will decrease performance, but less problems fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 < similar fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000.0 < more time for scripts during loading screens, obviously longer loading screens but again less problems. Default is 500. iMinMemoryPageSize=128 iMaxMemoryPageSize=768 <forgot what these two exactly do, but 768 was max if i remember right, values over that should be ignored. iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=2147483647 <not sure about that part, i've seen different suggested values. Sets how many RAM are allowed to be used by scripts. Having an issue with defeat and Death Alternative. I can't find, on this thread if anyone else is having the same issue. When character enters bleed out via DA, Defeat triggers, PC gets prompted to 'struggle'. However, after the struggle function completes the PC will stand back up and the NPCs will start attacking again. PC will then black out and one of the post-black out scenarios will then happen. Anyone else having this issue? I'm using DA 6.1.8 and Defeat 5.3.2. If anyone could show me how to make a log file I'd be happy to upload it. I had a lot of problems with DA. Atm i set chances for DA to zero, and use defeats Simply Slavery and default quests only. Don't dare to uninstall it right now, but that solved almost all my problems.
YFeyn Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 It's not because of SexLab but my function for validating NPCs for multiple animation will check for gender tag, I can add an option to validate by number of actor if you want, it should then play any 4p animation no matter the genders.... Yes that was it. See it in the new version. THANKS . I'm having an issue with the animation tags, I can add tags all day long without a problem, but cannot remove tags at all, tried using the "z" key without any success, can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? <edit> whats worse, if I try to edit the tags after enabling aninmations in NSAP and SLAL as soon as I try to do anything on the animations page I CTD. instantly. I'm using the latest version of defeat and latest versions on sexlab <1.60b> and yes, ran FNIS Try your default 'default' key. Mine is 'R'. So just hover over the tags line on the defeat MCM page (don't enter the actual list) until it's highlighted, and hit your default key. No idea on the CTD. Sorry. got it figured out, was the "R" key, as for the CTD, I was starting a new game, started game with old version, enabled everything, then "updated" to the new version, that fixed that Thanks, I had the same problem when starting a new game. If I tried to edit the tags in any way i get CTD. Will enable old version and then update. Thought Goubo might want to know your's wasn't an isolated issue. thanks for letting me know it wasn't just me, lol after the day I had, its good to know I wasn't going batty. And thanks Tontoman for the suggetstion to use the R key I have this problem but starting with an old version and updating did not fix it for me...
FVHrc0E Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks for this great mod. Having a problem with rape and resetting animation tags. When press G, the choke animation and removal of victims clothes animations play and after that nothing. Player and NPC just stand there and have to use "clean" to recover PC control. If the victim is in bed, just the undress animation plays and then nothing. Use "Z-key" for my activate key. When tried to remove tags, highlighted the tag and pressed Z. Nothing happened; also tried L-Shift with Z just in case. No doubt, I'm doing something wrong or overlooking an instruction, but can't figure out what the problem is. If it's not too much trouble could you help me with these issues? Thanks for listening. Since then have made a clean save of SLDefeat and re-installed v5.3.2. None of the animations are working except the initial rip off clothes. This is true not just for rape using G, but for NPC-NPC rape during combat and necrophilia. With necrophilia have a choice of "sex" as well as "necrophilia". If choose "Necrophilia" get choice of rape or bag (I can't remember the details---there seem to be so many). Choosing "Sex" gives just plain sex, no necro animations. If choose necrophilia only bagging works; animation for any kind of sex doesn't happen. I seem to be the only one who is having this problem, so it is probably unlikely anybody has a solution. But if you do or have a sensible troubleshooting protocol, please let me know. Does anyone know of any conflicts with other mods? BTW. Have tried loading SLD at the beginning of my SL group and at the very bottom of my mod load. Made no difference. Since "Death Alternative" apparently plays a big role in the functionality of Defeat, are there optimal settings for these two mods to work well together?
alfgui Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Hey Goubo. Being stuck in the animation bug returned for me. When i succesfully defend from rape atempt the agresor is flung away and im stuck lying on the ground in strugle animation. Combat resums and im pumeled to death on the ground. Also the player knock down animation doesn't play for me. When my character is defeated she just stands in idle pose. I gues its not that bad cuz lack of animation playing means i can move if i "strafe" out of it. Do you know how to fix that? Do you use Sanguine Debauchery? In my case the animation for surrender to animals also doesn't work. Visiting sanguine dreamworld and receiving the sanguine restriction items (those orange glowing which dissapear in a couple hours in game or so) fix the issue. So i wonder if somehow debauchery messes with the animations due to some armbinder restriction which is not removed by the mod when you become free (e.g. your owner dies before you can ask him to remove your armbinder).
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks for this great mod. Having a problem with rape and resetting animation tags. When press G, the choke animation and removal of victims clothes animations play and after that nothing. Player and NPC just stand there and have to use "clean" to recover PC control. If the victim is in bed, just the undress animation plays and then nothing. Use "Z-key" for my activate key. When tried to remove tags, highlighted the tag and pressed Z. Nothing happened; also tried L-Shift with Z just in case. No doubt, I'm doing something wrong or overlooking an instruction, but can't figure out what the problem is. If it's not too much trouble could you help me with these issues? Thanks for listening. Since then have made a clean save of SLDefeat and re-installed v5.3.2. None of the animations are working except the initial rip off clothes. This is true not just for rape using G, but for NPC-NPC rape during combat and necrophilia. With necrophilia have a choice of "sex" as well as "necrophilia". If choose "Necrophilia" get choice of rape or bag (I can't remember the details---there seem to be so many). Choosing "Sex" gives just plain sex, no necro animations. If choose necrophilia only bagging works; animation for any kind of sex doesn't happen. I seem to be the only one who is having this problem, so it is probably unlikely anybody has a solution. But if you do or have a sensible troubleshooting protocol, please let me know. Does anyone know of any conflicts with other mods? BTW. Have tried loading SLD at the beginning of my SL group and at the very bottom of my mod load. Made no difference. Since "Death Alternative" apparently plays a big role in the functionality of Defeat, are there optimal settings for these two mods to work well together? Some notes, but first: i didn't try to rape anybody with new version of defeat, so i don't know if it would work for me. To have a chance for necro animations, you need to install them, they aren't included in defeat. Not sure if there is even a single one in sexlab, use SLAL (sexlab animation loader) and Funnybizness animation pack, you need to register the pack via SLAL MCM. DA was neccessary in past to get several additional options like player enslavement by other mods as a result of defeatment. But there was no update for a long time and it's not neccessary anymore except for some more default quests, imho defeat + Simply Slavery can replace it, at least i don't miss anything and have less problems. If you want to use it anyways, deactivate the whole "wound, exhausted, stun" part from defeat and set DA to bleedout only, without ragdoll. Those are the options i know that they are necessary, but there might be more.
Krag Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I can't seem to get the self prostitution thing to work. Pressing K in front of a NPC opens the usual speech window but there's nothing that points to offering sex. Edit: Actually, it works. But only if player as aggressor is enabled.
rea_jak Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 How do you remove a suppressed tag? It says to press the default button (Z) but pressing it does nothing. Maybe i'm doing it wrong? And I can't get creatures to work with Defeat. What I have enabled is rape triggering by wounds at 100% hp threshold with 25% chance on hit and it still won't work like it previous versions used to. Trying to surrender just gives me the message that I can't surrender to this enemy.
Chosen Clue Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Hey. Are the multiple creature -> victim animations designed to only trigger if the victim is female? I'm playing as a male, and when I surrender, I never get the multiples animation.
ppt12472 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Hi, just a question: When I knock down the enemy, I can press the action key to loot, tie up, rape, or kill the victim. Can I knockout the victim (become unconscious)? i am thinking to use this to create a "scent of sex" scene.
iamknotsatisfied Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Hi, just a question: When I knock down the enemy, I can press the action key to loot, tie up, rape, or kill the victim. Can I knockout the victim (become unconscious)? i am thinking to use this to create a "scent of sex" scene.Yes when u bash the victim when he is in knock down state he will go into knock out state. And long press the action key to get the knock down menu Hey. Are the multiple creature -> victim animations designed to only trigger if the victim is female? I'm playing as a male, and when I surrender, I never get the multiples animation. I dont think there are any multiple creatures animations for male. Even the new funnybizness slal pack has only single male creature animations.
iamknotsatisfied Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 How do you remove a suppressed tag? It says to press the default button (Z) but pressing it does nothing. Maybe i'm doing it wrong? And I can't get creatures to work with Defeat. What I have enabled is rape triggering by wounds at 100% hp threshold with 25% chance on hit and it still won't work like it previous versions used to. Trying to surrender just gives me the message that I can't surrender to this enemy. Have you enabled creature animations in sexlab?There is abug that doent allow to change the animation tags immediately after installing defeat. I suggest you wait a bit and then try to edit the animation tags. I think it would be good if you just play normally for 2 hrs and then try to do it. I encourage you to save before doing this as you may have to go through lot of doors in this 2 hrs of game play. After playing the game normally just exit to desktop and relaunch the game and load your latest save game and try editing the animations tags. If this still doesnt work you always have the save game that you did before. So you can reload to that save game.
Tefajo Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Goubo, sometimes when i use shift+action key on a knocked target and select "rape with player" i get a CTD right after the strip and the message "Playing xxxxx animation".... This is what i have at the end of the papyrus log [03/23/2016 - 10:27:02AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp238"stack: [DefeatActionQst (9C036014)].defeatactionscr.OptionRape() - "defeatactionscr.psc" Line 1342 [DefeatActionQst (9C036014)].defeatactionscr.Stun() - "defeatactionscr.psc" Line 544 [DefeatActionQst (9C036014)].defeatactionscr.OnKeyDown() - "defeatactionscr.psc" Line 297[03/23/2016 - 10:27:07AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Entering Making State[03/23/2016 - 10:27:07AM] SEXLAB - GetByTags(ActorCount=2, Tags=Aggressive, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=False)[03/23/2016 - 10:27:07AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Bandit Ranger) -- TRUE -- MISS[03/23/2016 - 10:27:08AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: Bandit Ranger Init Empty Stats[03/23/2016 - 10:27:08AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] SetActor([Actor < (0004794C)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (14061EEF)>][03/23/2016 - 10:27:08AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Vega) -- TRUE -- MISS[03/23/2016 - 10:27:09AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] SetActor([Actor < (00000014)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (14061EEF)>][03/23/2016 - 10:27:09AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Adjustment Profile - NordRaceF.NordRaceM[03/23/2016 - 10:27:10AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] - Waited [1] cycles for MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF00173A)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:27:10AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Waited [1] cycles for MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF00174B)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:27:10AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] - Strip: [False, True, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, True][03/23/2016 - 10:27:10AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Strip: [False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False][03/23/2016 - 10:27:12AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Equipment: [[Armor < (00013961)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:27:12AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] - Equipment: [[Form < (10124109)>], [Form < (1012411D)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:27:13AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] - Scales[1.030000/1.030000/0.970874] Voice[English Female A] Expression[Pained] BaseEnjoyment[0][03/23/2016 - 10:27:14AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Scales[1.030000/1.030000/0.970874] Voice[Average (Male)] Expression[Afraid] BaseEnjoyment[0][03/23/2016 - 10:27:14AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(prepare) - Lag Timer: 25.292007[03/23/2016 - 10:27:14AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationStart[03/23/2016 - 10:27:16AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(startUp) - Lag Timer: 8.675003[03/23/2016 - 10:27:17AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Sync) - Lag Timer: 8.850006[03/23/2016 - 10:27:17AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageStart[03/23/2016 - 10:27:34AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Refresh) - Lag Timer: 7.800003[03/23/2016 - 10:27:40AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Refresh) - Lag Timer: 7.632996[03/23/2016 - 10:27:57AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - ActorsRelocated[03/23/2016 - 10:28:00AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Refresh) - Lag Timer: 7.353027[03/23/2016 - 10:28:24AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageEnd[03/23/2016 - 10:28:26AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Sync) - Lag Timer: 8.566986[03/23/2016 - 10:28:26AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageStart[03/23/2016 - 10:28:37AM] SEXLAB - InitAdjustments(NordRaceF.NordRaceM.0) GroundPound - [0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000][03/23/2016 - 10:28:53AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageEnd[03/23/2016 - 10:28:54AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageStart[03/23/2016 - 10:28:54AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Sync) - Lag Timer: 8.649994[03/23/2016 - 10:29:10AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageEnd[03/23/2016 - 10:29:11AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Sync) - Lag Timer: 8.567993[03/23/2016 - 10:29:12AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageStart[03/23/2016 - 10:29:15AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageEnd[03/23/2016 - 10:29:16AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Sync) - Lag Timer: 8.552002[03/23/2016 - 10:29:17AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - OrgasmStart[03/23/2016 - 10:29:17AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - StageStart[03/23/2016 - 10:29:17AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] - Orgasms[1] Enjoyment [100] BaseEnjoyment[0] FullEnjoyment[100][03/23/2016 - 10:29:17AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Orgasms[1] Enjoyment [75] BaseEnjoyment[0] FullEnjoyment[75][03/23/2016 - 10:29:17AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: Vaginal:TRUE-1 Oral:False-0 Anal:TRUE-1[03/23/2016 - 10:29:17AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - OrgasmEnd[03/23/2016 - 10:29:18AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationEnding[03/23/2016 - 10:29:18AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Resetting![03/23/2016 - 10:29:18AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Ranger] - Resetting![03/23/2016 - 10:29:19AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] SyncDone(Reset) - Lag Timer: 28.901001[03/23/2016 - 10:29:19AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationEnd[03/23/2016 - 10:29:19AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Auto saving adjustments...[03/23/2016 - 10:29:30AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Returning to thread pool...[03/23/2016 - 10:29:47AM] Error: (00000014): cannot fetch variable named FNISaa_sprint of type int, returning 0.stack: [ (00000014)].Actor.GetAnimationVariableInt() - "<native>" Line ? [Active effect 5 on (00000014)].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.GetAnimVar() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 1630 [Active effect 5 on (00000014)].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.SaveFNISData() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 1636 [Active effect 5 on (00000014)].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.Restyle() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line 1293 [Active effect 5 on (00000014)].XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.OnObjectEquipped() - "XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect.psc" Line ? [03/23/2016 - 10:30:33AM] Error: Cannot call GetCombatTarget() on a None object, aborting function callstack: [alias Female1 on quest DefeatNPCMonitorQst (9C06E968)].defeatnvnonhitscr.OnEnterBleedout() - "DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc" Line 77[03/23/2016 - 10:30:33AM] Error: Cannot call GetCombatTarget() on a None object, aborting function callstack: [alias Female1 on quest DefeatNPCMonitorQst (9C06E968)].defeatnvnonhitscr.OnEnterBleedout() - "DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc" Line 77[03/23/2016 - 10:30:45AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp238"stack: [DefeatActionQst (9C036014)].defeatactionscr.OptionRape() - "defeatactionscr.psc" Line 1342 [DefeatActionQst (9C036014)].defeatactionscr.Stun() - "defeatactionscr.psc" Line 556 [None].DefeatActionFollowerScr.OnEffectStart() - "DefeatActionFollowerScr.psc" Line 134[03/23/2016 - 10:30:51AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Entering Making State[03/23/2016 - 10:30:52AM] SEXLAB - GetByTags(ActorCount=3, Tags=FFM,Aggressive, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=False)[03/23/2016 - 10:30:52AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Bandit Berserker) -- TRUE -- MISS[03/23/2016 - 10:30:52AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: Bandit Berserker Init Empty Stats[03/23/2016 - 10:30:52AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Berserker] SetActor([Actor < (0004D51F)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (14061EEF)>][03/23/2016 - 10:30:53AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Lydia) -- TRUE -- HIT[03/23/2016 - 10:30:53AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Lydia] SetActor([Actor < (000A2C94)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (14061EEF)>][03/23/2016 - 10:30:53AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Vega) -- TRUE -- HIT[03/23/2016 - 10:30:53AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] SetActor([Actor < (00000014)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias002 on quest SexLabThread00 (14061EEF)>][03/23/2016 - 10:30:54AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Adjustment Profile - NordRaceF.NordRaceF.NordRaceM[03/23/2016 - 10:30:54AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Waited [1] cycles for MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF000B97)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:30:54AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Lydia] - Waited [1] cycles for MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF000D2A)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:30:55AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Berserker] - Strip: [False, True, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, True][03/23/2016 - 10:30:55AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Lydia] - Strip: [False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False][03/23/2016 - 10:30:55AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Strip: [False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False][03/23/2016 - 10:30:56AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Berserker] - Equipment: [][03/23/2016 - 10:30:56AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Lydia] - Equipment: [[Form < (0001395C)>], [Armor < (00013955)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:30:56AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vega] - Equipment: [[Armor < (00013961)>]][03/23/2016 - 10:30:57AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[bandit Berserker] - Scales[1.030000/1.030000/0.970874] Voice[English Female Pinn] Expression[Pained] BaseEnjoyment[1][03/23/2016 - 10:30:57AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Lydia] - Scales[1.030000/1.030000/0.970874] Voice[English Female Pinn] Expression[Afraid] BaseEnjoyment[1] When that starts happening usually uninstalling defeat (by MCM), reseting Sexlab, and enableing Defeat again solves it, but as i keep playing it will eventually start happening again. Can't be sure if its a Defeat thing causing conflict with Sexlab or something from Sexlabframework itself. Any ideas? Tell me if you need aditional info
Guest Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Hey Goubo, I just got to say sometimes when I am playing your mod i'll notice that I can faintly hear playing in the background of my room the show Everybody Loves Raymond but because of Sexlab Defeat I miss alot of the hijinx that Ray and Deborah go through. Anyway any plans on patching these two to be compatible in the future?
ppt12472 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Hi, just a question: When I knock down the enemy, I can press the action key to loot, tie up, rape, or kill the victim. Can I knockout the victim (become unconscious)? i am thinking to use this to create a "scent of sex" scene.Yes when u bash the victim when he is in knock down state he will go into knock out state. And long press the action key to get the knock down menu Many thanks!! Finally know how to make it happen.
iamknotsatisfied Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Hi, just a question: When I knock down the enemy, I can press the action key to loot, tie up, rape, or kill the victim. Can I knockout the victim (become unconscious)? i am thinking to use this to create a "scent of sex" scene.Yes when u bash the victim when he is in knock down state he will go into knock out state. And long press the action key to get the knock down menuMany thanks!! Finally know how to make it happen. Good thing is you can do this with creatures also as the surrender feature is not available with creatures.
FVHrc0E Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Thanks for this great mod. Having a problem with rape and resetting animation tags. When press G, the choke animation and removal of victims clothes animations play and after that nothing. Player and NPC just stand there and have to use "clean" to recover PC control. If the victim is in bed, just the undress animation plays and then nothing. Use "Z-key" for my activate key. When tried to remove tags, highlighted the tag and pressed Z. Nothing happened; also tried L-Shift with Z just in case. No doubt, I'm doing something wrong or overlooking an instruction, but can't figure out what the problem is. If it's not too much trouble could you help me with these issues? Thanks for listening. Since then have made a clean save of SLDefeat and re-installed v5.3.2. None of the animations are working except the initial rip off clothes. This is true not just for rape using G, but for NPC-NPC rape during combat and necrophilia. With necrophilia have a choice of "sex" as well as "necrophilia". If choose "Necrophilia" get choice of rape or bag (I can't remember the details---there seem to be so many). Choosing "Sex" gives just plain sex, no necro animations. If choose necrophilia only bagging works; animation for any kind of sex doesn't happen. I seem to be the only one who is having this problem, so it is probably unlikely anybody has a solution. But if you do or have a sensible troubleshooting protocol, please let me know. Does anyone know of any conflicts with other mods? BTW. Have tried loading SLD at the beginning of my SL group and at the very bottom of my mod load. Made no difference. Since "Death Alternative" apparently plays a big role in the functionality of Defeat, are there optimal settings for these two mods to work well together? Some notes, but first: i didn't try to rape anybody with new version of defeat, so i don't know if it would work for me. To have a chance for necro animations, you need to install them, they aren't included in defeat. Not sure if there is even a single one in sexlab, use SLAL (sexlab animation loader) and Funnybizness animation pack, you need to register the pack via SLAL MCM. DA was neccessary in past to get several additional options like player enslavement by other mods as a result of defeatment. But there was no update for a long time and it's not neccessary anymore except for some more default quests, imho defeat + Simply Slavery can replace it, at least i don't miss anything and have less problems. If you want to use it anyways, deactivate the whole "wound, exhausted, stun" part from defeat and set DA to bleedout only, without ragdoll. Those are the options i know that they are necessary, but there might be more. Thank you for your help. Actually, SL provides two Necro animations and I had added the most recent SLAL FunnyBizPack. Following your adviise, added Simple Slavery and unchecked Death Alternative. Still no animations beyond undressing. Apparently, Defeat doesn't play nice with one or more of my other mods.
Rin-Kin Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 This is complex and very interesting mod, but why pressing surrender button while fighting guards removes crimegold without any consequences? O_o This seems illogical especially considering mod's purpose.
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Thanks for this great mod. Having a problem with rape and resetting animation tags. When press G, the choke animation and removal of victims clothes animations play and after that nothing. Player and NPC just stand there and have to use "clean" to recover PC control. If the victim is in bed, just the undress animation plays and then nothing. Use "Z-key" for my activate key. When tried to remove tags, highlighted the tag and pressed Z. Nothing happened; also tried L-Shift with Z just in case. No doubt, I'm doing something wrong or overlooking an instruction, but can't figure out what the problem is. If it's not too much trouble could you help me with these issues? Thanks for listening. Since then have made a clean save of SLDefeat and re-installed v5.3.2. None of the animations are working except the initial rip off clothes. This is true not just for rape using G, but for NPC-NPC rape during combat and necrophilia. With necrophilia have a choice of "sex" as well as "necrophilia". If choose "Necrophilia" get choice of rape or bag (I can't remember the details---there seem to be so many). Choosing "Sex" gives just plain sex, no necro animations. If choose necrophilia only bagging works; animation for any kind of sex doesn't happen. I seem to be the only one who is having this problem, so it is probably unlikely anybody has a solution. But if you do or have a sensible troubleshooting protocol, please let me know. Does anyone know of any conflicts with other mods? BTW. Have tried loading SLD at the beginning of my SL group and at the very bottom of my mod load. Made no difference. Since "Death Alternative" apparently plays a big role in the functionality of Defeat, are there optimal settings for these two mods to work well together? Some notes, but first: i didn't try to rape anybody with new version of defeat, so i don't know if it would work for me. To have a chance for necro animations, you need to install them, they aren't included in defeat. Not sure if there is even a single one in sexlab, use SLAL (sexlab animation loader) and Funnybizness animation pack, you need to register the pack via SLAL MCM. DA was neccessary in past to get several additional options like player enslavement by other mods as a result of defeatment. But there was no update for a long time and it's not neccessary anymore except for some more default quests, imho defeat + Simply Slavery can replace it, at least i don't miss anything and have less problems. If you want to use it anyways, deactivate the whole "wound, exhausted, stun" part from defeat and set DA to bleedout only, without ragdoll. Those are the options i know that they are necessary, but there might be more. Thank you for your help. Actually, SL provides two Necro animations and I had added the most recent SLAL FunnyBizPack. Following your adviise, added Simple Slavery and unchecked Death Alternative. Still no animations beyond undressing. Apparently, Defeat doesn't play nice with one or more of my other mods. Just figured out: you still need DA, defeat doesn't set the player essential which means you die if beaten (might be caused by chaurus poison in my case). But you can set the chance for DA event to zero, i had often problems with player stuck/ screen stays black or such with those. Seems i have a similar problem, although i have no idea at all what could cause my problems. For me the player anims seem to work, but my followers don't get raped by creatures. I've tried with a different profile in MO with minimum mods, changed and tested several things and it suddenly works, although i have no clue why. Copied the settings from defeat and DA 1:1 into my main profile, still don't work. This is complex and very interesting mod, but why pressing surrender button while fighting guards removes crimegold without any consequences? O_o This seems illogical especially considering mod's purpose. You should be sent to prison after surrendering, there is a button for crime faction and on by default, but not sure if that works.
Bushi Neko Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Before this mod.. and Cursed Loot.. I played Skyrim. Now Skyrim plays me. This mod can help you cure your crack addiction. Cure your drinking problem. Cause your relationship to end. ( not always a bad thing ) Cause a time vortex that results in you having no idea of the day of the week. It also has a strange ability to cause you to develop necrophilia... ** Of course in fixing these other things, it causes a new addiction.. Much Skyrim playing ... ( life is full of choices.. ) ** Thanks for this great mod. Having a problem with rape and resetting animation tags. When press G, the choke animation and removal of victims clothes animations play and after that nothing. Player and NPC just stand there and have to use "clean" to recover PC control. If the victim is in bed, just the undress animation plays and then nothing. Use "Z-key" for my activate key. When tried to remove tags, highlighted the tag and pressed Z. Nothing happened; also tried L-Shift with Z just in case. No doubt, I'm doing something wrong or overlooking an instruction, but can't figure out what the problem is. If it's not too much trouble could you help me with these issues? Thanks for listening. Since then have made a clean save of SLDefeat and re-installed v5.3.2. None of the animations are working except the initial rip off clothes. This is true not just for rape using G, but for NPC-NPC rape during combat and necrophilia. With necrophilia have a choice of "sex" as well as "necrophilia". If choose "Necrophilia" get choice of rape or bag (I can't remember the details---there seem to be so many). Choosing "Sex" gives just plain sex, no necro animations. If choose necrophilia only bagging works; animation for any kind of sex doesn't happen. I seem to be the only one who is having this problem, so it is probably unlikely anybody has a solution. But if you do or have a sensible troubleshooting protocol, please let me know. Does anyone know of any conflicts with other mods? BTW. Have tried loading SLD at the beginning of my SL group and at the very bottom of my mod load. Made no difference. Since "Death Alternative" apparently plays a big role in the functionality of Defeat, are there optimalsettings for these two mods to work well together? Some notes, but first: i didn't try to rape anybody with new version of defeat, so i don't know if it would work for me. To have a chance for necro animations, you need to install them, they aren't included in defeat. Not sure if there is even a single one in sexlab, use SLAL (sexlab animation loader) and Funnybizness animation pack, you need to register the pack via SLAL MCM. DA was neccessary in past to get several additional options like player enslavement by other mods as a result of defeatment. But there was no update for a long time and it's not neccessary anymore except for some more default quests, imho defeat + Simply Slavery can replace it, at least i don't miss anything and have less problems. If you want to use it anyways, deactivate the whole "wound, exhausted, stun" part from defeat and set DA to bleedout only, without ragdoll. Those are the options i know that they are necessary, but there might be more. Thank you for your help. Actually, SL provides two Necro animations and I had added the most recent SLAL FunnyBizPack. Following your adviise, added Simple Slavery and unchecked Death Alternative. Still no animations beyond undressing. Apparently, Defeat doesn't play nice with one or more of my other mods. Just figured out: you still need DA, defeat doesn't set the player essential which means you die if beaten (might be caused by chaurus poison in my case). But you can set the chance for DA event to zero, i had often problems with player stuck/ screen stays black or such with those. Seems i have a similar problem, although i have no idea at all what could cause my problems. For me the player anims seem to work, but my followers don't get raped by creatures. I've tried with a different profile in MO with minimum mods, changed and tested several things and it suddenly works, although i have no clue why. Copied the settings from defeat and DA 1:1 into my main profile, still don't work. This is complex and very interesting mod, but why pressing surrender button while fighting guards removes crimegold without any consequences? O_o This seems illogical especially considering mod's purpose. You should be sent to prison after surrendering, there is a button for crime faction and on by default, but not sure if that works. It works. But I ve not had vanilla prison in forever. Surrendering to guards usually transitions to Prison Overhaul for me with no problems. In fact, I recently got my tat for Windhelm after a misunderstanding with some local Law Enforcement..
Rin-Kin Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Strange... When i surrender guards just turn around and walk away...
Bushi Neko Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Strange... When i surrender guards just turn around and walk away... mmmm. ok. lemme' read back. I didn't mean to post the wall of text as a quote.. hehe.. oops. Anyway. lemme' look at the earlier post again.. *Edit* Ok.. Since I am not sure on this part. Do you have Prison Overhaul? Like I said, I ve not used vanilla penal system in forever.. Also, if you have SD+ alongside this, strange things happen. Ive never seen the two play nice together. I tried some goofing with it before just to see.. and got lots of strange things. All I can say honestly and no harm in trying with a new character is get P.O. if you don't have it.. and try a surrender transition.. should work fine. Another thing I am reading.. it maybe sounds like your FNIS is not reading or up to date? The part of the conversation about the animations sounds like its hanging there for some reason. I d honestly check my animation installs and versions.. redo my load order via loot and then my FNIS. I also recommend you indeed have the Necro anims, zaz ( of course, which is updated btw ) funnybiz and the creature pack. That should most likely let you have a good time as far as anims. The only time I ever get a hang associated to Defeat is if I am in knockdown and my followers kill off the bad guys.. or I escape a fight via a door and leave one.. that can cause me to have to ' clean ' sometimes.. but not often. In fact.. its pretty rare.. but can happen..
Rin-Kin Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 mmmm. ok. lemme' read back. I didn't mean to post the wall of text as a quote.. hehe.. oops. Anyway. lemme' look at the earlier post again.. *Edit* Ok.. Since I am not sure on this part. etc etc No,no. If they knock her out or down they perfectly groupinteract with her and then bring her to the prison. The problem is only happens when give-up key pressed. SD+ ? P.O. ? Coud you use full mod names please? upd. Just tried to assault one of citizens and of course whole bunch of guards gathered around as well. As soon as i pressed surrender button the guards walked away (message in console indicated crimegold with their faction was reset) and the citizen came closer to start surrender dialogue. In other words mod works like planed for all the factions (tested it on bandits as well). But guards take me to prison only if character gets knocked out. Somtimes their vanilla scrips kicks in, causing them to offer vanilla surrender.
matekun Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 I really like the "follow me action" to move with an NPC to another spot for privacy. I wonder if something like this could be possible: https://youtu.be/bDmW-ktabMA?t=38
Rin-Kin Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 I really like the "follow me action" to move with an NPC to another spot for privacy. I wonder if something like this could be possible: https://youtu.be/bDmW-ktabMA?t=38 Thanks for reminding me of that awesome game =) Now.. where did i put my PS2?
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