SexLab Defeat

ZoanChrome · March 11, 2016

Oh, and yeah,I have a question
I enable foreplay animation in SL framework, and it always played whenever I try to Rape someone (5.1.0) but after 5.3.1 no foreplay played instead main rape animation

I have SL Eager Npc, SL Further Lover's Comfort, and foreplay is always played when I trigger sex from them

did you block the foreplay animations for rape? (if there's a note in change log about this, sorry I didn't read it)

DeathNWhite · March 11, 2016

I downloaded this mod but when I use MO and click "install a new mod from an archive" it isn't there. What do I do?

aim4it · March 11, 2016

I downloaded this mod but when I use MO and click "install a new mod from an archive" it isn't there. What do I do?

Try dropping the archive in '...Mod Organizer/Downloads'

*Goubo* · March 11, 2016

so you say you dont touch expression, but how comes this expreession then after defeat rape ? i have expressions disabled in sexlab.

then, after the rape, before you get control back of your character this ugly voice comes. this voice must be from skyrim vanilla sounds, i didnt found this sound in zaz or anywhere.

this voice comes always in such situations ( also whipping, milkomatic etc) when no other voice has been created for it.

very often defeat does not react when my charater is clearly under 20% health. it never reacts when the health is 0- character dies, that is why i tried death alternative (again), but

there i got the same problem as in defeat aftermath events : character no keyboard control, epc doesnt help

follower stay much longer in bleedout animation,. character has to fight alone to the end.

well you can say my game has other issues. i doubt that all i find in defeat comes from other issues. i can not place everything to maria edens faullt. (but most)

defeat was a simple and perfect mod long ago, before death alternative came. no ugly scream voice, no coverself, fast reacting.

now, what can you do ? the most disappointing behaviour of defeat is, that it does not react for sure when the health goes under 20% and cant react when the health goes under 0 %hat makes defeat fail in most combats. and if rape hjappens the end of thje rape and regaining control of the character is problematic.

and try to find that voice please.

Ok, asked so politely...

- I do not touch anything related to expressions, period.

- Ungly voices, do you mean vanilla moaning after you get up to escape? If so would it hurt you to ask me nicely if I could put an option to remove those? You are the only one that asked me this so far or I should say ranted about it but no problem I can do that.

- About the reactivity on the OnHit event, there is a simple reason to that, I has to put a 2 seconds cooldown between OnHit events for perfomance issues because surprisely enough Papyrus script system isn't great and it would create bottlenecks especially for magic that spams the onhit event.

But I can tell you how to remove it you will just have to remove 4 lines of code and compile the script if you want.

This issue isn't one if you character doesn't die in 3 hits, try to lvl up a char more than lvl 10.

You can also use Death alternative to start Defeat and disable all the knockdown way of Defeat, it's not perfect because it will only use one aggressor but if the witness system of Defeat is enabled the other interested aggressor will be added to the scene, works quite well.

- Followers stay too much in bleedout, isn't why the mod is done for? Did you know you can get them up by using revive?

- You can disable the cover self animation.

- I have abosolutely no problem will controls not given back, something must conflict with Defeat somehow.

Did any of you guys also can't rob armor through inventory option or is it just me?

Yeah I will re-enable the option except if I can find out why changing outfit on some people dosen't make their armor/clothes show up in their inventory and fix it.

I like the mod, and this wont stop me from playing, but why are there no voices?

Make sure you use the last version on SexLab.

Oh, and yeah,I have a question

I enable foreplay animation in SL framework, and it always played whenever I try to Rape someone (5.1.0) but after 5.3.1 no foreplay played instead main rape animation

I have SL Eager Npc, SL Further Lover's Comfort, and foreplay is always played when I trigger sex from them

did you block the foreplay animations for rape? (if there's a note in change log about this, sorry I didn't read it)

No not particulary, there is always a victim in the sex scene (except consensual) so it shouldn't play the foreplay phase in theory, don't know why it played foreplay animations for you before.

Cause thats one thing that made your work significant and neat, option to choose to want or not want a feature. That simple.

I'm sorry but I'm having a hard time to understand you point of view about this, why do you want to disable something you don't use? Just don't use it, where's the problem?

Adding a condition to the dialogues for them to not appear won't change anything because they won't appear anyway if you don't use it.

magicrealm · March 11, 2016

thanks for answering it.

yes , the voice is from skyrim vanilla, a couple of mods use it whenever you dont have a gag on.

follower on botton wasnt such long in earlier versions of defeat. they stood up when character stood up.

face expression without sexlab enabled and lagging time must come from maria eden. without the features of maria eden i wouldnt play skyrim at all anymore.

JuliusXX · March 11, 2016

follower on botton wasnt such long in earlier versions of defeat. they stood up when character stood up.

Not sure if you mean this one but there's an option in MCM under NPC vs NPC, called "knock down duration". I actually use this setting to keep the followers down longer so that my sneaky bow using character also gets attacked before the follower comes back to fight.

magicrealm · March 11, 2016

follower on botton wasnt such long in earlier versions of defeat. they stood up when character stood up.

Not sure if you mean this one but there's an option in MCM under NPC vs NPC, called "knock down duration". I actually use this setting to keep the followers down longer so that my sneaky bow using character also gets attacked before the follower comes back to fi

i use the minimum of 30 seconds. i think the follower is longer down.

*gooser* · March 11, 2016

Anyone know how to fix this?

[03/11/2016 - 11:50:22AM] Error: Cannot call GetCombatTarget() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[alias FollowerFemale1 on quest DefeatNPCMonitorQst (A506E968)].defeatnvnonhitscr.OnEnterBleedout() - "DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc" Line 77

*WaxenFigure* · March 11, 2016

Anyone know how to fix this?

[03/11/2016 - 11:50:22AM] Error: Cannot call GetCombatTarget() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[alias FollowerFemale1 on quest DefeatNPCMonitorQst (A506E968)].defeatnvnonhitscr.OnEnterBleedout() - "DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc" Line 77

Yes, line 77 of the DefeatNVNOnHitScr.psc script uses a variable called "Victim" but it has not yet been initialized, line 78 is where that variable gets initialized. Swap those two lines and recompile the script and it will work.

meme supreme · March 11, 2016

Probably just an unrelated issue but I thought I'd comment anyways. If Serana is my follower, knockdown happens, stripping, everything triggers fine but when it comes to actually performing the animation it just snaps out and restarts combat. The console logs Sexlab outputs say that there are unfinished(?) threads with the actors currently trying to put in an animation, but if I move Serana out of the cell and redo the knockdown blah blah stuff, the animation & everything triggers fine.

street2 · March 12, 2016

I also encountered a problem with a follower, no special voiced follower, just a random one.

I cant seem to let Follower Scenes get triggered when using DeathAlternative as a knockdown way. No matter what settings I use in PlayerAsVictim or NpcVsNpc.

Using Defeats Health Knockdown way there are no problems, Followers get knocked down as well and both "All Down" and "Original" options work.

But cant get a Scene triggered for the Follower through DeathAlternative...

Maybe its a configuration thing I did wrong, so heres what I tried:

1. PlayerAsVictim - turn on all Follower Options or rather let them on, they are by default

2. Didnt trigger the Follower, so activated NPCvsNPC and set Follower knockdown way as OnBleedout - since I deactivated Defeats own Knockdownways

3. Waited for Follower to enter Bleedout, then entered it myself - Follower didnt trigger any Scene, just stood up again and watched

4. Change the follower Settings in DeathAlternative, various combinations

5. Activate WitnessIntervention, since I read somewhere that it may help - Nothing triggered, Follower was a "Witness" and stopped any Scenes

6. Deactivated DeathAlternative and used Defeats Knockdown Ways - worked first try

Defeat is activated in DeathAlternative, no problems getting it triggered on PC, just cant get it to work for followers.

Followers work without any problems when using Defeats own Knockdown mechanisms.

Im using AFT, so does maybe AFT have problems with DeathAlternative? Did others here get their followers to work using DeathAlternatives Bleedout in order to trigger Defeat?

WCSC · March 12, 2016

I'm having an issue all of a suddden.

Some draugrs are knocking my follers down and as soon as they strip my follower stands and nothing happens, when I press the ~ key I see [ssActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (OBO61EEF)>)) Actor present during alias clear! This is usually harmlessas the alias actor will correct itself..... this line repeats itself about 3 times and nothing happens.

The animations seem to work fine against the player, just not the followers

Sometimes asfter stripping the followw just tranitions fade out and disappears, and the Draugrs are having sex with invisible people. I also see after pressing ~ ActorAlias- Strip [False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True, False, True,]

Anyone run into this?

Help!

Meteox · March 12, 2016

Probably just an unrelated issue but I thought I'd comment anyways. If Serana is my follower, knockdown happens, stripping, everything triggers fine but when it comes to actually performing the animation it just snaps out and restarts combat. The console logs Sexlab outputs say that there are unfinished(?) threads with the actors currently trying to put in an animation, but if I move Serana out of the cell and redo the knockdown blah blah stuff, the animation & everything triggers fine.

Updated to 5.3.2 last night and had her with me (Doing the Dawnguard quest), everything was fine from my side.

jlttsmiley · March 12, 2016

I personally like the cover animation between animation better than standing there like nothing ever happen.

Also for those who don,T know player SKYRIM with sexlab and not using the SKSE memory patch it is a simple tweak that can make a big difference in game stability

For more information just go to YouTube an type SKSE memory patch

*D_ManXX2* · March 12, 2016

Goubo i wasn wondering of your mod additions ?? are you still taking request ?? Since your mod already included compatibility with paradise halls i was wondering if you could do the same for miaslair ?? Where you need to capture put them in the sack then had miaslair and talk to volkar in order to train these new captured npc's into become sexlaves by miaslair ??

DarkRavage · March 13, 2016

Since the rob feature is gone, I can't seem to take NPC's armors since they arent shown in the inventory. Help?

WCSC · March 13, 2016

Alright, so I think I found out what my issue was, all my followers had the druagr skirts on and I guess there are issues with that armor mod

Torkya · March 13, 2016

Ignore this ... I disabled Defeat and it started happenning under different circumstances.

Hi Guobo.

I seem to be running into an issue where when the PC is the aggressor in a rape (sneak up behind someone and knock them down not combat initiated) at the end of the animation the PCs stamina is completely drained as if they were the victim.

Thanks Torkya

~~edit 2: seems to be when using rape with player~~

markyy0902 · March 13, 2016

I run into this bug where interrupting a rape prevents any future dialog with the NPC. HAs anyone encountered into this bug?

antimon · March 13, 2016

Hey there!

I got a strange issue, sorry if it has been discussed earlier. Whenever my char get knocked down, at the end of the scene, wether it was an assault or just a knockdown, my char takes up a "sitting on the ground in pain" animation, of which i can't get out. I guess this supposed to be the "Trauma" option for post-assault settings, but i tried to set it to "End" or leave it in "Trauma" and fill the struggle bar, and nothing happened. I waited for like 10 real time minutes and my char was still sitting on the ground. Is there a solution to this? I realize this is a new feature, since i updated from previous version of Defeat, but i couldn't solve it myself. Thanks in advance!

DonQuiWho · March 13, 2016

Quick question for those that have updated to 5.3.2, is a straight overwrite safe?

MO shows 5.3.1 as being totally overwritten, ie all the files are replaced, but do any of the revisions, eg replaced scripts, do anything nasty to existing saves, to the extent that an uninstall, clean save, reinstall is necessary?

TIA

Aensland_src · March 13, 2016

Well I have some problems...

-I noticed saving MCM settings won't save surrender shortcut key

-Sometimes on surrender npc will just go and sit or do anyother thing instead of continuing the scene

Arcturus7777 · March 14, 2016

there may be a problem with the scripts on the latest version. I was getting 4000 ms script delay. animations took a long time to start. Someone said that the aggressor part of this mod caused them some problems, so I went back to a previous version of the defeat mod I had and the problem went away.

I did test it to level 8 with a new toon, and no problems. So, if anyone else starts reporting this you might want to check it out.

markyy0902 · March 14, 2016

Also, what is the hotkey for "command"?

There used to be a hotkey to set one of your followers under the "command". This allows a 3some with your follower on a "target"

The default target hotkey is "G"... In the old version i remember the "Command" hot key was "H"...

Was that feature removed in the latest version?

kucykjr · March 14, 2016

Hello i have small problem i can surrender to creature but "You can surrender to a creature the normal way but you can also hold the Modifier key to take a submission pose to “invite” the creature, if the creature is sexually interested you won’t be able to resist during the scene." that no work, i hold shift and creature still attack me. Can some one tell my why that no work?

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