toys Dark Desires Club

[Herowynne]

5 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

don't' know if MO itself can just lose it's mind

I have never seen that happen. In my experience, MO2 is quite stable and reliable.

[hostrelok]

8 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Don't really know.

But examples... using unofficial downgrader seems to have left messes for people. Using Wabbajack maybe. Messing with Nemesis.... its anything that involves changing the mods outside of your mod manager's control, including just you doing stuff manually. I use Vortex... don't' know if MO itself can just lose it's mind, but vortex does, and they were both made by the same author.

Just nuked everything and did a full clean reinstall the same way I had it yesterday on the 2nd log. Again missing the same files (I think) and is full of dump stacks. I don't get it. 

Papyrus.0.log

[crococat]

After installing and testing mod i reload save and in my game i had newer visiting club yet. Girls are present in sities.

But in some time period in sities i have message about adding 100 debt to club. Is it normal?

 

And wonder if it possible make girls to use default body (maybe with dependancy of installing armor for existing body type)?

Edited August 6, 2022 by crococat

[VirginMarie]

3 hours ago, crococat said:

After installing and testing mod i reload save and in my game i had newer visiting club yet. Girls are present in sities.

But in some time period in sities i have message about adding 100 debt to club. Is it normal?

 

Not sure if its intended. Its a beta, so we can expect some not intended things. I will be checking into it eventually. Did you do anything to deserve debt?  

 

3 hours ago, crococat said:

And wonder if it possible make girls to use default body (maybe with dependancy of installing armor for existing body type)?

 

Its going to be considered. Was discussed here.

[VirginMarie]

7 hours ago, hostrelok said:

Just nuked everything and did a full clean reinstall the same way I had it yesterday on the 2nd log. Again missing the same files (I think) and is full of dump stacks. I don't get it. 

Papyrus.0.log 3.09 MB · 0 downloads

 

Same very odd animation pack situation too. Toys&Love is still reporting...

[08/06/2022 - 10:01:02AM] [Toys] (Love)Loaded 38 Love Packs

 

Yet clearly there's not very many scenes to actually load...

[08/06/2022 - 10:01:02AM] [Toys] (Love)Loaded 38 Love Packs
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Solo Love Scenes: 34
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Couple Love Scenes: 550
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Group Love Scenes: 110
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)WildLife Love Scenes: 391
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Disabled Love Scenes: 0

... this is about right for the packs listed its loading by the way. Its just loading them over and over, but finishing much faster than SLAL finishes.

 

I looked more closely this time and also notice that this line repeats 37 times (for a total of 38)

SLAL: loaded category NibblesAnims Human: 25 animations.   (just an example, its doing this for each pack)

 

This is in your previous logs too.

 

So what's happening is that SLAL is loading everything 37 times, OR you actually have 37 copies of packs for it to use.

Toys&Love did the same, but in a few seconds without spam.

 

It does end, so the loop is not forever, but the load of doing this 38 times is lasting a loooooong time...  I can see in the log that you did end up playing a sexlab love scene before SLAL finished, so that would have triggered the stack dump during very heavy script load.

SLAL has nothing to do with Toy&Love, this is a tool only for sexlab. But both animation frameworks are tripping out seeing the packs 38 times.

Toys&Love never reaches the point of completing initialization. Not sure for DD and sexlab.

 

So I hope you can see... This can only be an install issue. Your nuke has not nuked what it needs to nuke, OR your Reinstall is perfectly simulating your previous mistake.

I have no idea how you have managed this, but here's a thought...

 

What if MO is giving you a virtual skyrim, but when you actually launch skyrim, it launches using some other set a folders. A set of folders that you did not touch, did not nuke, and have remained the same this whole time. Clearly your log shows the same environment, nothing has changed, so clearly, imo, you have not cleared and reinstalled what you are actually running.

 

Only you can figure this out.

 

 

[hostrelok]

6 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Same very odd animation pack situation too. Toys&Love is still reporting...

[08/06/2022 - 10:01:02AM] [Toys] (Love)Loaded 38 Love Packs

 

Yet clearly there's not very many scenes to actually load...

[08/06/2022 - 10:01:02AM] [Toys] (Love)Loaded 38 Love Packs
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Solo Love Scenes: 34
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Couple Love Scenes: 550
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Group Love Scenes: 110
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)WildLife Love Scenes: 391
[08/06/2022 - 10:01:11AM] [Toys] (Love)Disabled Love Scenes: 0

... this is about right for the packs listed its loading by the way. Its just loading them over and over, but finishing much faster than SLAL finishes.

 

I looked more closely this time and also notice that this line repeats 37 times (for a total of 38)

SLAL: loaded category NibblesAnims Human: 25 animations.   (just an example, its doing this for each pack)

 

This is in your previous logs too.

 

So what's happening is that SLAL is loading everything 37 times, OR you actually have 37 copies of packs for it to use.

Toys&Love did the same, but in a few seconds without spam.

 

It does end, so the loop is not forever, but the load of doing this 38 times is lasting a loooooong time...  I can see in the log that you did end up playing a sexlab love scene before SLAL finished, so that would have triggered the stack dump during very heavy script load.

SLAL has nothing to do with Toy&Love, this is a tool only for sexlab. But both animation frameworks are tripping out seeing the packs 38 times.

Toys&Love never reaches the point of completing initialization. Not sure for DD and sexlab.

 

So I hope you can see... This can only be an install issue. Your nuke has not nuked what it needs to nuke, OR your Reinstall is perfectly simulating your previous mistake.

I have no idea how you have managed this, but here's a thought...

 

What if MO is giving you a virtual skyrim, but when you actually launch skyrim, it launches using some other set a folders. A set of folders that you did not touch, did not nuke, and have remained the same this whole time. Clearly your log shows the same environment, nothing has changed, so clearly, imo, you have not cleared and reinstalled what you are actually running.

 

Only you can figure this out.

 

 

Yeah this is super weird. And I definitely do not have every pack 38 times. I don't even know how that would work lmao. What I did was literally delete the MO2 folder that stores the mods, delete and unistall MO2 itself, and completely uninstall skyrim even going as far as nuking the settings and saves. Then I reinstall skyrim, manually install SKSE, reinstall MO2, search for the skyrim SE folder and start installing one by one. Then I check everything on the left side so it works, run LOOT then run FNIS then run bodyslide and build whatever I have and then run SKSE. I have literally no idea how I can be fucking up. So what you're telling me is that I may have a virtual folder somehow somewhere? Because from my perspective there is no way I'm somehow fucking up simply installing mods this badly. I very well could somehow but I doubt it. Really weird. How would it even launch from a different folder? Since I'm both targetting the correct folder in MO2 and manually installing SKSE in the correct folder. I'll look around I guess.

[VirginMarie]

7 minutes ago, hostrelok said:

Yeah this is super weird. And I definitely do not have every pack 38 times. I don't even know how that would work lmao. What I did was literally delete the MO2 folder that stores the mods, delete and unistall MO2 itself, and completely uninstall skyrim even going as far as nuking the settings and saves. Then I reinstall skyrim, manually install SKSE, reinstall MO2, search for the skyrim SE folder and start installing one by one. Then I check everything on the left side so it works, run LOOT then run FNIS then run bodyslide and build whatever I have and then run SKSE. I have literally no idea how I can be fucking up. So what you're telling me is that I may have a virtual folder somehow somewhere? Because from my perspective there is no way I'm somehow fucking up simply installing mods this badly. I very well could somehow but I doubt it. Really weird. How would it even launch from a different folder? Since I'm both targetting the correct folder in MO2 and manually installing SKSE in the correct folder. I'll look around I guess.

 

Since I don't use MO2, I can't help. But here's a test and method for you...

 

Install ONLY sexlab and its requirements. Literally, nothing else. ZERO animation packs. Launch that game. You should now have an MCM with only Sexlab and a coupled things it requires. maybe your body mod, that's it, right? So if you have more... what you are launching, is not what you are installing.... IF you get what was expected, then its fine.

 

This is process of elimination, its what you should be using. Get Sexlab ONLY working. Don't install SLAL, or any animation packs. You will have just what comes with Sexlab. Test it.... run a scene. You can do that in its MCM, with nothing else. Check your log for the crazy shit. If all work and look good in the log, Build up form there, in baby steps. Now, if something goes wrong, you know why. Now you are your own master, in control.

[crococat]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

Not sure if its intended. Its a beta, so we can expect some not intended things. I will be checking into it eventually. Did you do anything to deserve debt?  

As i said i newer enter club. Dont know what is bad deed in club system. The only thing i can imagine is some simple slavery sells of me when i was thrown in wilderness. I have club outcome for simple slavery and maybe there was some broken sequence.

[Miauzi]

Vor 54 Minuten sagte VirginMarie:

 

Da ich MO2 nicht verwende, kann ich nicht helfen. Aber hier ist ein Test und eine Methode für Sie ...

 

Installieren Sie NUR Sexlab und seine Anforderungen. Buchstäblich nichts anderes. ZERO-Animationspakete. Starten Sie dieses Spiel. Sie sollten jetzt ein MCM haben, das nur Sexlab und ein paar Dinge enthält, die es erfordert. vielleicht dein body mod, das ist es, oder? Also, wenn Sie mehr haben ... was Sie starten, ist nicht das, was Sie installieren .... WENN Sie bekommen, was erwartet wurde, dann ist es in Ordnung.

 

Dies ist ein Ausschlussverfahren, das Sie verwenden sollten. Bringen Sie Sexlab NUR zum Laufen. Installieren Sie weder SLAL noch irgendwelche Animationspakete. Sie werden genau das haben, was mit Sexlab kommt. Testen Sie es .... führen Sie eine Szene aus. Sie können das in seinem MCM tun, mit nichts anderem. Überprüfen Sie Ihr Protokoll auf den verrückten Scheiß. Wenn alles funktioniert und im Protokoll gut aussieht, bauen Sie es dort in kleinen Schritten auf. Wenn jetzt etwas schief geht, wissen Sie warum. Jetzt sind Sie Ihr eigener Herr und haben die Kontrolle.

und genau das muss ich jetzt auch machen...

..weil nach einem Update einiger Nexus-Mods sich das gesamte Skyrim aufgehängt hat - zwar kein CDT aber ich komme nicht über den "alternativen Start" hinaus - bzw. kann ca. 50% meiner Char-"Vorlagen" nicht mehr benutzen

wird wohl die ganze Woche dauern - ermöglicht mir aber rund 30% der bisherigen Mods rauszuwerfen und andere Mods auszutesten

?

[Miauzi]

Krokokatze sagte vor 26 Minuten:

Wie gesagt, ich bin neu im Club. Ich weiß nicht, was im Clubsystem eine schlechte Tat ist. Das einzige, was ich mir vorstellen kann, sind einige einfache Sklavereiverkäufe von mir, als ich in die Wildnis geworfen wurde. Ich habe ein Clubergebnis für einfache Sklaverei und vielleicht gab es eine fehlerhafte Sequenz.

there are some things that you as a guest or "employee" can do wrong and that will be punished with a monetary penalty
I, for example, often play with a succubus - this "class" can arouse their sexual partner via "magic" and thus better control the orgasm
but casting a spell on an NPC in the club is -> punishable
--
If you are still a guest in the club you cannot have sex with every NPC in the club
etc.

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, hostrelok said:

Yeah this is super weird. And I definitely do not have every pack 38 times. I don't even know how that would work lmao. What I did was literally delete the MO2 folder that stores the mods, delete and unistall MO2 itself, and completely uninstall skyrim even going as far as nuking the settings and saves. Then I reinstall skyrim, manually install SKSE, reinstall MO2, search for the skyrim SE folder and start installing one by one. Then I check everything on the left side so it works, run LOOT then run FNIS then run bodyslide and build whatever I have and then run SKSE. I have literally no idea how I can be fucking up. So what you're telling me is that I may have a virtual folder somehow somewhere? Because from my perspective there is no way I'm somehow fucking up simply installing mods this badly. I very well could somehow but I doubt it. Really weird. How would it even launch from a different folder? Since I'm both targetting the correct folder in MO2 and manually installing SKSE in the correct folder. I'll look around I guess.

Deleting the stored mods is neither necessary nor helpful, it's just a folder containing the packed mods you download. Deleting Skyrim is unlikely to remove the virtual Data folder, as it does not reside in the Skyrim folder. Uninstalling MO2, now that might or might not remove the virtual Data folder (I would expect it does, but appears it does not). In all honesty instead of blindly deleting and reinstalling stuff, it might have been better to invest the time into learning how MO2 handles that virtual Data folder and how to delete/reset it.
You are using a profile named differently from the old one, right?

[Delzaron]

too bad this mod dones't exist for regular skyrim... I can't play it

[Miauzi]

Vor 5 Minuten sagte Delzaron:

Schade, dass es diesen Mod nicht für normales Skyrim gibt ... Ich kann ihn nicht spielen

dann konvertiere ihn doch - Du bist doch selbst ein erfahrender Mod-Schreiber

 

[d4079925]

Anyone know Katelyn's .NIF name in the Facegen directory? She's drop down gorgeous. 

 

[VirginMarie]

38 minutes ago, d4079925 said:

Anyone know Katelyn's .NIF name in the Facegen directory? She's drop down gorgeous. 

 

 

Regenerate it in the CK. The file with the new date is your file. Don't forget it makes texture files too.

[Talesien]

11 hours ago, Delzaron said:

too bad this mod dones't exist for regular skyrim... I can't play it

There is an older conversion by @killer905 :

IIRC he also received permission to post newer conversion in the LE section by DarkDesires, but not sure he plans to do any anymore, given VirginMarie mentioned that there is a high chance that she will provide for LE as well eventually. Might be worth it though, as that eventually might still be a few months away.

[killer905]

23 minutes ago, Talesien said:

There is an older conversion by @killer905 :

IIRC he also received permission to post newer conversion in the LE section by DarkDesires, but not sure he plans to do any anymore, given VirginMarie mentioned that there is a high chance that she will provide for LE as well eventually. Might be worth it though, as that eventually might still be a few months away.

As for me, for version 1.2.0 BETA I decided not to do the back port due to being BETA, but in the meantime I saw that the author gave the mod to another person and I also asked that I did not see any sense to backport to version 1.2.0 and no I asked the current maintainer for permission to do the back port version 1.2.0

[Miauzi]

Am 06.08.2022 um 19:00 Uhr sagte Miauzi:

und genau das muss ich jetzt auch machen...

..weil nach einem Update einiger Nexus-Mods sich das gesamte Skyrim aufgehängt hat - zwar kein CDT aber ich komme nicht über den "alternativen Start" hinaus - bzw. kann ca. 50% meiner Char-"Vorlagen" nicht mehr benutzen

wird wohl die ganze Woche dauern - ermöglicht mir aber rund 30% der bisherigen Mods rauszuwerfen und andere Mods auszutesten

?

Kurzer Zwischenbericht:

Nach zwei Tage Neu-Installation habe ich gerade einen Mod ausgemacht der mir im Race-Menü die Verwendung von z.B. "Succubus Waifu Race" oder "True Demon Race" blockiert hat.

-> "no same Race" ersetzte den Mod-spezifiischen Körper meines Char durch eine Vanilla-Version - dagegen blieben Kopf, Füsse und Hände in ursprünglicher Form erhalten.

nun steht der Weg offen für einen neuen Succubus-Mod

 

der Mod geht mit der Generierung von "nomal"- und "succubus"-Form einen neuen Weg -> über das Race-Menu

also deutlich einfacher als z.B. PSQ

--

Update:

Soeben erfolgreich im Club angkommen - d.h. das die Installation soweit in Ordnung ist

Die Tests in Sachen Sex-Animationen mache ich dann heute Abend

 

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Update 2

I'm a bit at a loss -> I have installed and activated SexLab - but NOT initialized in the MCM

I wanted the sex between the customers and me to take place via toys - SLSO is installed

several attempts fail in the sense that the customer is completely dissatisfied with me

I actually wanted to work around the script load issues with SexLab

does it even work this way or do I still have to "switch on" SexLab?

 

Spoiler

Ich bin ein bischen ratlos -> ich habe zwar SexLab installiert und aktiviert - aber NICHT im MCM initialisiert

ich wollte den Sex zw. den Kunden und mir via Toys ablaufen lassen - SLSO ist installiert

mehrere Versuche scheitern in dem Sinne das der Kunde komplett mit mir unzufrieden ist

eigentlich wollte ich die Skriptlast-Probleme mit SexLab umgehen

geht das überhaupt auf diese weise oder muss ich trotzdem SexLab "zuschalten"?

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Miauzi

[unsocialbttrfly85]

 it's exactly what I'm looking. been fighting with it since last night, mistress dialogue just would not initiate, though I think the issue there may be SL++ because after several attempts I decided to go in directly from the entrance, first time around the girl did not initiate, tried again on yet another new game and she worked but now that I'm in the club everything takes exceedingly long to initiate, mistress gave me tasks, it shows in the quest log but  nothing has initiated at all. then with the clients I talk to them to start quest it shows up on the log, but takes forever for the objective to get marked as complete if at all, if it moves to next objective it again takes forever to initiate the next step if at all. I've also completed a couple of the quests but they haven't gotten marked as completed in the quest log. I can't say for sure if it's the mod itself that's taking so long with everything or if something else is messing with it so I will continue playing around with it and see if I can do anything on my. but, as I said this is exactly what I'm looking for and I realize this is the beta so kinks are still being bound to be present, so thank you for working on this.

[thebwolf]

been having trouble installing this mod. i have  everything installed but SOS  but i have SOS light  with tampered skin. tryed to do SOS 10 times and nothing worked always got the pants on the guys   they tryed to installed sos on top of sos light and would show the pant and the dong.  i have skyrim 1.6.353  se    and like I said i down loaded everything but cant get SOS to work . 

[VirginMarie]

10 hours ago, unsocialbttrfly85 said:

 it's exactly what I'm looking. been fighting with it since last night, mistress dialogue just would not initiate, though I think the issue there may be SL++ because after several attempts I decided to go in directly from the entrance, first time around the girl did not initiate, tried again on yet another new game and she worked but now that I'm in the club everything takes exceedingly long to initiate, mistress gave me tasks, it shows in the quest log but  nothing has initiated at all. then with the clients I talk to them to start quest it shows up on the log, but takes forever for the objective to get marked as complete if at all, if it moves to next objective it again takes forever to initiate the next step if at all. I've also completed a couple of the quests but they haven't gotten marked as completed in the quest log. I can't say for sure if it's the mod itself that's taking so long with everything or if something else is messing with it so I will continue playing around with it and see if I can do anything on my. but, as I said this is exactly what I'm looking for and I realize this is the beta so kinks are still being bound to be present, so thank you for working on this.

 

So I can try and help, show me your Papyrus log. How to get a Papyrus Log?

 

What we want is a game session where you...

Start up the game.... Load a save where  you are already in the club.... Run the Toys&Love Installation test (Toys&Love MCM - Setup tab).... do one of these activities that are slow/taking forever.... exit to desktop.... attach that log here (should be no more than 7-10 minutes of play time)

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, thebwolf said:

been having trouble installing this mod. i have  everything installed but SOS  but i have SOS light  with tampered skin. tryed to do SOS 10 times and nothing worked always got the pants on the guys   they tryed to installed sos on top of sos light and would show the pant and the dong.  i have skyrim 1.6.353  se    and like I said i down loaded everything but cant get SOS to work . 

 

Sounds like nothing to do with this mod. Just SOS.

 

I have the same version of Skyrim as you, its AE. I also use only lite.

 

SOS works if you follow the SOS link on this mod's page. Takes you to a page that includes what you need for AE. You end up with SOS SE and the AE addon/patch. In my Vortex, ends up looking like this.

[thebwolf]

yeah  ill give it a try in the plugins for this mod shows what the mod needs and the only thing is SOS is missing    so only SOS works not SOS light

 

 

 

 

p.s.

 

 When i installed sos and sos ae the schlongs was missing and was a tear in model 

Edited August 10, 2022 by thebwolf

[VirginMarie]

53 minutes ago, thebwolf said:

yeah  ill give it a try in the plugins for this mod shows what the mod needs and the only thing is SOS is missing    so only SOS works not SOS light

 

 

 

 

p.s.

 

 When i installed sos and sos ae the schlongs was missing and was a tear in model 

 

I have SOS lite. Its working. It gives that core.esm file in your pic.

Now that said, I installed it many months ago, so maybe things changed. If you learn anything let us know so others can be helped.

 

Suggest you seek help in the SOS thread(s). Its not a DDC issue. I know nothing more.

 

Or maybe someone else reading here can help.

[thebwolf]

13 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

I have SOS lite. Its working. It gives that core.esm file in your pic.

Now that said, I installed it many months ago, so maybe things changed. If you learn anything let us know so others can be helped.

 

Suggest you seek help in the SOS thread(s). Its not a DDC issue. I know nothing more.

 

Or maybe someone else reading here can help.

got it to work  what i did was changed my profile installed the main sos same setting as lite then copied the sos core .esm to a other folder  changed the profile back and added the esm to the new profile in the data folder and  enabled it in vortex and when i started a new game there it was in mcm and  in game with simple slavery. so  thought you should know this worked   for if anyone has the same problem this was a solution