toys Dark Desires Club

[VirginMarie]

30 minutes ago, Tinyin said:

I have a problem here it shows Could not start sex scene... for every character in the club

• Do you have sexlab working? Can you see it's MCM? Does the last tab show animations loaded?
• Did you install the required SLAL animation pack listed on the instructions on the main mod page? Did you load those those aniamtions up using SLAL, so they are registered into sexlab?
• Did you generate with FNIS?

Edited August 17, 2022 by VirginMarie

[slayerus]

Greetings, i have CTD when i try enter in club, log attached. Version 1.2.0

 

 

crash-2022-08-17-21-49-05.log

Papyrus.0.log

Edited August 17, 2022 by slayerus

[VirginMarie]

33 minutes ago, slayerus said:

Greetings, i have CTD when i try enter in club, log attached. Version 1.2.0

 

 

crash-2022-08-17-21-49-05.log 38.82 kB · 1 download

Papyrus.0.log 93.37 kB · 0 downloads

 

Crash on entering club is almost certainly this... (copy pasted from the main mod page)...

 

• ZAZ Animation Pack SE (ZAZ 8 or 8+)   ZAP 8.0+ CBBE HDT Rev3  or  ZAP 8.0+ UUNP HDT Rev3
  •  Must have only one version of ZAP installed / Version must be 8+. Getting these 2 wrong = Crash

 

Your crash log does not identify version, but you have some Zaz Patch. Whatever that is, probebly a sign of wrong Zaz too.

[Tinyin]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

• Do you have sexlab working? Can you see it's MCM? Does the last tab show animations loaded?
• Did you install the required SLAL animation pack listed on the instructions on the main mod page? Did you load those those aniamtions up using SLAL, so they are registered into sexlab?
• Did you generate with FNIS?

Yes I've wen though all the questions. and it look like this in the inn.

[slayerus]

I disable all zaz patches, rebuild FNIS, Nemesis, check ReSaver - all clean, still CTD. ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT Rev3

Papyrus.0.log

crash-2022-08-17-23-12-15.log

Edited August 17, 2022 by slayerus

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Tinyin said:

Yes I've wen though all the questions. and it look like this in the inn.

 

Need to rule out a corrupt save...

You've added mods for the first time, so you need to start a new game. Did you? do I really need to start a new game?

After that new game, did you break the Golden Rule ? Yes, time to start another new game.

 

If its not that... you must have something installed incorrectly. Is this your first time using Sexlab?

• If YES, you will need to make sure sexlab is working first before you attempt to use DDC. You can trigger a scene within Sexlab's MCM. Might start there
• If NOT your first time... you likely have other mods using sexlab... does sexlab work for them?
  • Yes?... ok... show me your papyrus log How to get a Papyrus Log.... We need a log for a game session where you... start up the game... load a save... recreate the problem.... Now also please Run the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation test.... Exit to desktop... attach here that log

 

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, slayerus said:

I disable all zaz patches, rebuild FNIS, Nemesis, check ReSaver - all clean, still CTD. ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT Rev3

Papyrus.0.log 354.8 kB · 0 downloads

crash-2022-08-17-23-12-15.log 60.52 kB · 0 downloads

 

The PROBABLE CALL STACK in both of your crash logs, shows us ZERO clues at all. Nothing but SkyrimSE.exe is there. So its not likely any plugin based mod going wrong... instead its more likely a utility mod (dll)... all the things here... SE versus AE Version Trap

 

For the mod to crash,  you have not installed something correctly. You will need to look harder at the requirements, read the instructions, etc.

 

Also...

Need to rule out a corrupt save...

You've added mods for the first time, so you need to start a new game. Did you? do I really need to start a new game?

After that new game, did you break the Golden Rule ? Yes, time to start another new game.

[Tinyin]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Need to rule out a corrupt save...

You've added mods for the first time, so you need to start a new game. Did you? do I really need to start a new game?

After that new game, did you break the Golden Rule ? Yes, time to start another new game.

 

If its not that... you must have something installed incorrectly. Is this your first time using Sexlab?

• If YES, you will need to make sure sexlab is working first before you attempt to use DDC. You can trigger a scene within Sexlab's MCM. Might start there
• If NOT your first time... you likely have other mods using sexlab... does sexlab work for them?
  • Yes?... ok... show me your papyrus log How to get a Papyrus Log.... We need a log for a game session where you... start up the game... load a save... recreate the problem.... Now also please Run the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation test.... Exit to desktop... attach here that log

 

I just start new game but the same problem occured and I run the test the game crushed

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Tinyin said:

I just start new game but the same problem occured and I run the test the game crushed

 

Ran what test? If you mean Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation test... Then you need to troubleshoot that mod first. Did you follow the instructions it gave for when the test fails? Tells you to use this...Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed  Id suggest you start with the instructions on the Toys&Love download page.
 

1 hour ago, Tinyin said:

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

 

What's this here for? I asked for your papyrus log. This is the settings you update to produce a log, but it is not the log.

Edited August 18, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Tinyin]

2 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Ran what test? If you mean Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation test... Then you need to troubleshoot that mod first. Did you follow the instructions it gave for when the test fails? Tells you to use this...Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed  Id suggest you start with the instructions on the Toys&Love download page.
 

 

What's this here for? I asked for your papyrus log. This is the settings you update to produce a log, but it is not the log.

Sorry for my dumb mistake, here is the log 

Papyrus.0.log

[slayerus]

8 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

The PROBABLE CALL STACK in both of your crash logs, shows us ZERO clues at all. Nothing but SkyrimSE.exe is there. So its not likely any plugin based mod going wrong... instead its more likely a utility mod (dll)... all the things here... SE versus AE Version Trap

 

For the mod to crash,  you have not installed something correctly. You will need to look harder at the requirements, read the instructions, etc.

 

Also...

Need to rule out a corrupt save...

You've added mods for the first time, so you need to start a new game. Did you? do I really need to start a new game?

After that new game, did you break the Golden Rule ? Yes, time to start another new game.

 

I found problem, in crashlog

[RSP+1A8] 0x255FD91C3C8      (char*) "data\TEXTURES\dungeons\riften\ratwayfloor01.dds"

this texture replaced from Skyrim 2020 Terrain Parallax by Pfuscher, i disable this texture mod - all load fine.

Edited August 18, 2022 by slayerus

[MortiferusX]

22 hours ago, Miauzi said:

geht es um das Mädchen was man retten/befreien kann?

man kann sie freikaufen - erfordert aber eine Menge an Gold

 

Das hab ich schon gemacht. Mir geht es darum, dass man ihr nix anderes anziehen kann, weil ihre Kleidung "verflucht" ist.

[Miauzi]

Vor 57 Minuten sagte MortiferusX:

 

Das hab ich schon gemacht. Mir geht es darum, dass man ihr nix anderes anziehen kann, weil ihre Kleidung "verflucht" ist.

I had the same error as described above

I just couldn't remember that fact right away

 

[Talesien]

19 minutes ago, MortiferusX said:

 

Das hab ich schon gemacht. Mir geht es darum, dass man ihr nix anderes anziehen kann, weil ihre Kleidung "verflucht" ist.

Exactly how did you try? Just removing the clothes from her inventory and putting the new ones in? Or did you use a Follower Manager or Clothing Manager? Just checked her in xEdit and unlike most girls in the Club she has no default outfit defined, so exchanging the clothes in her inventory should work. Since she is naked at first I guess there is some script controlling her outfit and perhaps that never shuts down. As mentioned I think NFF managed to change her cloths, but it would constantly battle the script, not an ideal solution, would be better to reign in that script, if that's indeed the cause.

[Miauzi]

Vor 32 Minuten sagte Talesien:

Wie genau hast du es versucht? Einfach die Klamotten aus ihrem Inventar nehmen und die neuen reinstecken? Oder hast du einen Follower Manager oder Clothing Manager verwendet? Ich habe sie gerade in xEdit eingecheckt und im Gegensatz zu den meisten Mädchen im Club hat sie kein Standard-Outfit definiert, also sollte das Austauschen der Kleidung in ihrem Inventar funktionieren. Da sie anfangs nackt ist, schätze ich, gibt es ein Skript, das ihr Outfit steuert, und vielleicht wird das nie beendet. Wie bereits erwähnt, denke ich, dass NFF es geschafft hat, ihre Klamotten zu wechseln, aber es würde ständig gegen das Drehbuch kämpfen, keine ideale Lösung, es wäre besser, dieses Drehbuch zu beherrschen, wenn das tatsächlich der Grund ist.

mit EFF hatte es bei mir nicht geklappt

[VirginMarie]

8 hours ago, slayerus said:

 

I found problem, in crashlog

[RSP+1A8] 0x255FD91C3C8      (char*) "data\TEXTURES\dungeons\riften\ratwayfloor01.dds"

this texture replaced from Skyrim 2020 Terrain Parallax by Pfuscher, i disable this texture mod - all load fine.

 

Thanks good to know. I will have to remember that this mod I've inherited, uses textures from Riften Ratway!

[VirginMarie]

11 hours ago, Tinyin said:

Sorry for my dumb mistake, here is the log 

Papyrus.0.log 94.3 KB · 4 downloads

 

Your Log shows that player is male. Copied from the main page... The sex quests are only available if you play as female

So that's your main problem. Don't expect a male player to be anything other than an observer in the club. You can bet on the arena fights. I can't think of much else. This may change in the future.

 

But you have other problems with your installation. Switching to a female player may not be all you need to do.

1. Previously you said that "the test fails". Now you you provide the log, but you don't update on this issue. Does the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation test... pass or fail? If it fails you must fix that. .Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed . Get it working before you use this mod
2. You have this error from FNIS in the log...  [08/17/2022 - 11:58:03PM] [*TOYS] ERROR from FNIS: Alternate Animations missing.     This means that most likely you've not used the FNIS generate tool. If you have, FNIS must be reporting errors. Errors must be corrected you can't just ignore. MANY things will not work due to this. Use the installation steps on Toys&Love main page. If you don't understand about FNIS yet, go to the FNIS download page for info.

Edited August 18, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Talesien]

It appears he also misses the FNIS script "fnis_aa2.pex"
I had that problem too once. At first I suspected Nemesis to have deleted that one, but not sure that's really the case, also seems to be no Nemesis running here. So no idea what causes this script to be missing. I just manually added it again and had no problems with it vanishing since then.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

It appears he also misses the FNIS script "fnis_aa2.pex"
I had that problem too once. At first I suspected Nemesis to have deleted that one, but not sure that's really the case, also seems to be no Nemesis running here. So no idea what causes this script to be missing. I just manually added it again and had no problems with it vanishing since then.

 

Nemesis overwrites that thing I think, and since that stuff gets installed outside of the mod manager (I think?), then if you uninstall Nemesis, you are left with that file still gone. Don't get me going on about what I think about Nemesis. It won't be pretty. I might use not-so-innocent words.

[Talesien]

Maybe, though I had and (better skip the next few words ^^) still have, Nemesis installed, using it in parallel with FNIS, since some mods require Nemesis. So it's not just simple overwriting.
I agree Nemesis isn't a very desirable piece of software, but currently there is no alternative to create those behaviors that I'm aware of, and some mods do pretty amazing things with those.

[Tinyin]

10 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Your Log shows that player is male. Copied from the main page... The sex quests are only available if you play as female

So that's your main problem. Don't expect a male player to be anything other than an observer in the club. You can bet on the arena fights. I can't think of much else. This may change in the future.

 

But you have other problems with your installation. Switching to a female player may not be all you need to do.

1. Previously you said that "the test fails". Now you you provide the log, but you don't update on this issue. Does the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation test... pass or fail? If it fails you must fix that. .Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed . Get it working before you use this mod
2. You have this error from FNIS in the log...  [08/17/2022 - 11:58:03PM] [*TOYS] ERROR from FNIS: Alternate Animations missing.     This means that most likely you've not used the FNIS generate tool. If you have, FNIS must be reporting errors. Errors must be corrected you can't just ignore. MANY things will not work due to this. Use the installation steps on Toys&Love main page. If you don't understand about FNIS yet, go to the FNIS download page for info.

Guess I'll leave this one for now, thanks for your help and patient ❤️

[MortiferusX]

On 8/18/2022 at 3:23 PM, Miauzi said:

mit EFF hatte es bei mir nicht geklappt

 

Mit Immersive AFT geht es auch nicht. 

[Miauzi]

Am 12.08.2022 um 19:14 Uhr sagte Miauzi:

soweit war ich noch nicht unten in der Gunst - also muss ich dieses Szenario mal ausprobieren

danke für die Hinweise

?

 

P.S. ich benutze SE

Last night after a long break from playing Skyrim I tested what happens if I drop to ZERO in "favor"...

...I'll be properly spanked by the boss with the wip ?

she tells me that from now on the "owner" - the succubus - will take over

Then I find myself in a cell - have to survive/win 3 arena fights

after that I can go back to the club

succubus?

I then went into her room myself - there she is sitting on the thorn - 2 vamipre are standing in the background (probably as sexual subs of hers)

Entertainment is possible - but only 2 conversation options

The original mod author wanted to expand here - he planned that the player could be transformed into a succubus

We discussed the fact that it's not that easy with the succubus in Skyrim - he then seemed to reject this plan

now you can still do a lot with the lady - it would be a shame not to use this "material" (room, figures/NPC).

Spoiler

Ich habe gestern Abend nach einer längeren Spielpause von Skyrim ausgetestet was passiert wenn ich in der "Gunst" auf NULL falle...

...ich werde von der Chefin ordentlich mit den Wip den Po verhauen ?

sie sagt mir das ab jetzt die "Inhaberin" - der Succubus - übernimmt

Anschliessend finde ich mich in einer Zelle wieder - muss 3 Arena-Kämpfe überstehen/gewinnen

danach kann ich in den Club zurück kehren

Succubus?

Ich bin dann selbst in deren Zimmer gegangen - da sitzt sie auf dem Thorn - 2 Vamipre stehen im Hintergrund (wohl als sexuelle Subs von ihr)

Unterhaltung ist möglich - aber eben nur 2 Gesprächs-Optionen

Hier wollte ja der ursprüngliche Mod-Autor erweitern - ihm plante dass der Spieler sich in einen Succubus verwandeln lassen könnte

dass das mit dem Succubus in Skyrim nicht ganz so einfach ist haben wir ja recht ausführlich diskutiert - er schien dann diesen Plan zu verwerfen

nun kann man ja mit der Dame immer noch einiges machen - wäre schade dieses "Material" (Zimmer, Figuren/NPC) nicht zu nutzen

 

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

 

Last night after a long break from playing Skyrim I tested what happens if I drop to ZERO in "favor"...

...I'll be properly spanked by the boss with the wip ?

she tells me that from now on the "owner" - the succubus - will take over

Then I find myself in a cell - have to survive/win 3 arena fights

after that I can go back to the club

succubus?

I then went into her room myself - there she is sitting on the thorn - 2 vamipre are standing in the background (probably as sexual subs of hers)

Entertainment is possible - but only 2 conversation options

The original mod author wanted to expand here - he planned that the player could be transformed into a succubus

We discussed the fact that it's not that easy with the succubus in Skyrim - he then seemed to reject this plan

now you can still do a lot with the lady - it would be a shame not to use this "material" (room, figures/NPC).

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Ich habe gestern Abend nach einer längeren Spielpause von Skyrim ausgetestet was passiert wenn ich in der "Gunst" auf NULL falle...

...ich werde von der Chefin ordentlich mit den Wip den Po verhauen ?

sie sagt mir das ab jetzt die "Inhaberin" - der Succubus - übernimmt

Anschliessend finde ich mich in einer Zelle wieder - muss 3 Arena-Kämpfe überstehen/gewinnen

danach kann ich in den Club zurück kehren

Succubus?

Ich bin dann selbst in deren Zimmer gegangen - da sitzt sie auf dem Thorn - 2 Vamipre stehen im Hintergrund (wohl als sexuelle Subs von ihr)

Unterhaltung ist möglich - aber eben nur 2 Gesprächs-Optionen

Hier wollte ja der ursprüngliche Mod-Autor erweitern - ihm plante dass der Spieler sich in einen Succubus verwandeln lassen könnte

dass das mit dem Succubus in Skyrim nicht ganz so einfach ist haben wir ja recht ausführlich diskutiert - er schien dann diesen Plan zu verwerfen

nun kann man ja mit der Dame immer noch einiges machen - wäre schade dieses "Material" (Zimmer, Figuren/NPC) nicht zu nutzen

 

 

Yes there's room for much story to be added there, even if the player does not turn into a succubus.

 

I'd like to have some deeper story things going on... taking you out into the world. You still planning on being our BSDM club consultant?

 

But right now I'm just focused on the plan. Its a big job. This mod has much more depth than I realized. For example, every dialogue spoken to you by the NPCs, is from actually a random choice of 5 for each theme/task... so if its about having innocent dildo love, there's 5 lines that will intro that... if its about another theme or task, 5 random lines. And the girls are moving around, taking on different roles, doing different "tasks". And there's easter eggs, and things that you can see are planned but not implemented (which can be hard for me to decipher).

 

But today I reached a very important Milestone!!... DD and SLA are divorced... gone! We are keeping the children and all the best things including the house. God that felt good! Next is the most impactful part, where I finish converting the love scenes.

 

I have some sexlab-less love scenes working, and I have the orgy option working... any scene with chance set in MCM, for people around you to not be able to resist themselves and join in. You get 1 or 2 player-less love scenes added. You can see this work in our other mods, or just by wearing a toy with love effects, but in the case the club its themed, and able to move out of he way of furniture.

Edited August 21, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte VirginMarie:

 

Ja, es gibt Raum für viele Geschichten, die hinzugefügt werden können, auch wenn sich der Spieler nicht in einen Sukkubus verwandelt.

 

Ich hätte gerne ein paar tiefere Story-Dinge, die Sie in die Welt hinausführen. Hast du immer noch vor, unser BSDM-Club-Berater zu werden?

 

Aber im Moment konzentriere ich mich nur auf den Plan . Es ist eine große Aufgabe. Dieser Mod hat viel mehr Tiefe, als ich dachte. Zum Beispiel ist jeder Dialog, der von den NPCs zu Ihnen gesprochen wird, eigentlich eine zufällige Auswahl von 5 für jedes Thema / jede Aufgabe ... wenn es also um unschuldige Dildoliebe geht, gibt es 5 Zeilen, die das einleiten ... wenn es darum geht ein anderes Thema oder eine andere Aufgabe, 5 zufällige Linien. Und die Mädchen bewegen sich, nehmen verschiedene Rollen ein, erledigen verschiedene "Aufgaben". Und es gibt Ostereier, und Dinge, die Sie sehen können, sind geplant, aber nicht umgesetzt (was für mich schwer zu entziffern ist).

 

Aber heute habe ich einen sehr wichtigen Meilenstein erreicht!! ... DD und SLA sind geschieden ... weg! Wir behalten die Kinder und all die besten Dinge, einschließlich des Hauses. Gott, das fühlte sich gut an! Als nächstes folgt der wirkungsvollste Teil, in dem ich die Konvertierung der Liebesszenen abschließe.

 

Ich habe einige Sexlab-lose Liebesszenen am Laufen, und ich habe die Orgie-Option am Laufen ... jede Szene mit Zufall in MCM, damit die Leute um Sie herum nicht in der Lage sind, sich selbst zu widerstehen und mitzumachen. Sie bekommen 1 oder 2 Spieler- weniger Liebesszenen hinzugefügt. Sie können diese Arbeit in unseren anderen Mods sehen oder einfach durch das Tragen eines Spielzeugs mit Liebeseffekten, aber im Fall des Clubs ist es thematisch und in der Lage, sich aus dem Weg der Möbel zu bewegen.

"Are you still planning to become our BSDM club advisor?"

Yes, I have

but I also know that there are other things to do to make the mod more playable

--

The complexity behind the NPC dialogues and their NPC tasks...

..that was only to guess for me.

I had noticed, for example, that one and the same NPC expressed different "wishes" every time he visited the club - the first time he wanted doggie-style sex - the next time maybe a 3 or something else.

But that also makes it - in my eyes - quite lively...

.. but for a person who takes over this mod (probably without the necessary "documentation") it must be in the direction of a nightmare.

 

Spoiler

"Hast du immer noch vor, unser BSDM-Club-Berater zu werden? "

Ja - habe ich

aber ich weiss auch das jetzt andere Dinge anstehen um den Mod besser spielbar zu machen

--

Die Komplexität hinter den NPC-Dialogen bzw. deren NPC-Aufgaben...

..das war für mich lediglich zu erahnen.

Mir war z.B. aufgefallen das ein und derselbe NPC bei jedem neuen Besuch des Clubs andere "Wünsche" äusserte - wollte er beim ersten Mal Doggiestyle-Sex - so beim nächsten Mal vielleicht einer 3er oder was anderes.

Das macht es aber auch - in meinen Augen - recht lebendig...

..nur muss das für einen Menschen der diesen Mod übernimmt (wohl ohne die nötige "Dokumentation") in Richtung Alptraum gehen.