toys Dark Desires Club

[Talesien]

11 minutes ago, Judgment96 said:

Does someone know if this mod can work without Toys even if it's a requirement.
I'm not fan of the Toys mod but I wanna give a try to this mod so I don't know if it's possible.

Short answer: No.
Long answer: If you are using a ModManager it would either not let you start the game with missing masters or simply deactivate all mods that have missing masters before starting the game. You can't just leave out masters. Skyrim would crash if you did. Even if you could, DDC would be missing the functions it uses from Toys and again likely make Skyrim crash.

[Judgment96]

12 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Short answer: No.
Long answer: If you are using a ModManager it would either not let you start the game with missing masters or simply deactivate all mods that have missing masters before starting the game. You can't just leave out masters. Skyrim would crash if you did. Even if you could, DDC would be missing the functions it uses from Toys and again likely make Skyrim crash.

Thanks for the answer I was more or less sure about this. But I tried to ask if ever someone know something to do to bypass this case, with a remplacement for the mod needed. Thanks anyway !

[sunnydayknight]

Tried out your mod, it is a lot of fun!  
There are a few issues I found when playing with Devious Adventures and DCL (could be on my side). 
When I am in debt to the club I cannot leave, and when my arms are locked (through DCL) I cannot perform most of the actions in the club.  I could not find anyone in the club that can remove items (other than gags).  Because of this and I forgot to allow using the safe word while bound in DCL, I was pretty well stuck in the club.

Be sure to allow for the safe word in DCL settings when bound, or you may end up stuck in there

[Talesien]

12 hours ago, sunnydayknight said:

Be sure to allow for the safe word in DCL settings when bound, or you may end up stuck in there

Always good advice, also consider pausing DCL while you are in the club.

[wingtofree]

How can I enter the club, I can't find the entrance.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, wingtofree said:

How can I enter the club, I can't find the entrance.

(copied from previous post)

Most likely means DDC is not actually running. Its not  installed correctly.

did you Start a new game? When install instructions say start a new game, do I really need to start a new game?

 

Do you have an MCM for DDC?

Do  you have an MCM for Toys&Love?

Does the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation Test pass?

 

if the answer is no for any of those, you can't expect things to work.

[wingtofree]

19 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

(copied from previous post)

Most likely means DDC is not actually running. Its not  installed correctly.

did you Start a new game? When install instructions say start a new game, do I really need to start a new game?

 

Do you have an MCM for DDC?

Do  you have an MCM for Toys&Love?

Does the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation Test pass?

 

if the answer is no for any of those, you can't expect things to work.

Now I can find the club girl in Whiterun Inn, but where is the club? 

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, wingtofree said:

Now I can find the club girl in Whiterun Inn, but where is the club? 

 

Tells you in the first paragraph, on this mod's main page.

Most likely, you are not finding it because DDC is not installed correctly. Many things can cause that. To diagnose, I asked you 4 questions. Answers for each are needed, to be able to help. Here's the questions again...

 

1. Did you Start a new game? Do I really need to start a new game?   This includes starting a new gave if you makes changes to test it, for example you say the club girl is in Whiterun now, so did you change your mod load order to achieve that, but not start a new game? You can't do that due to the Golden Rule
2. Do you have an MCM for DDC? (a configuration menu)
3. Do  you have an MCM for Toys&Love?
4. Does the Toys&Love MCM - Setup Tab - Installation Test pass?   Run this. a pass or fail here tells us a whole lot!

[xxyz1]

Just wondering: do i need to do anything in the scenes, like pressing any key? Because after the scene, it says the NPC is disappointed and wont give me gold/ and obediance will decrease by some degree. Im missing something? Or when im client, will say NPC is disappointed with PC

By the way, the 1st quest from the Mistress, to escort a client, there are a specific one?

[Talesien]

17 minutes ago, xxyz1 said:

Just wondering: do i need to do anything in the scenes, like pressing any key? Because after the scene, it says the NPC is disappointed and wont give me gold/ and obediance will decrease by some degree. Im missing something? Or when im client, will say NPC is disappointed with PC

By the way, the 1st quest from the Mistress, to escort a client, there are a specific one?

That depends, if you got SLSO (SexLabSeparateOrgasms) installed, then yes you need to "win" the minigame, making first your customer orgasm, then orgasm yourself.
Without SLSO it's just random so you are at the mercy of Skyrims (not that great) RNG.

Edited July 17, 2022 by Talesien

[Miauzi]

Vor 7 Stunden sagte xxyz1:

Ich frage mich nur: Muss ich irgendetwas in den Szenen tun, wie das Drücken einer Taste? Denn nach der Szene heißt es, dass der NPC enttäuscht ist und mir kein Gold geben wird/ und der Gehorsam wird in gewissem Maße abnehmen. Ich vermisse etwas? Oder wenn ich Kunde bin, wird NPC sagen, dass er vom PC enttäuscht ist

Übrigens, die erste Aufgabe der Herrin, einen Kunden zu eskortieren, gibt es eine bestimmte?

please deal with the mechanism of "SL-separate orgasm"
there you can control the sexual intercourse between player and NPC to a limited extent...
..and if both partners reach the climax at about the same time, there is also the "full score" - i.e. the NPC expresses itself accordingly positively and his monetary "benefit" is also higher

[EliteCeltic]

Heya, sorry to be a bit of a bother but I keep having issues with this mod where, whenever I actually try to enter the DDC, I hear the lady welcoming me then I just CTD. I've downloaded all requirements and even most recommended mods. Unsure what to really do, I've tried it on several new saves and all end the same. Help would be appreciated

 

[Talesien]

26 minutes ago, EliteCeltic said:

Heya, sorry to be a bit of a bother but I keep having issues with this mod where, whenever I actually try to enter the DDC, I hear the lady welcoming me then I just CTD. I've downloaded all requirements and even most recommended mods. Unsure what to really do, I've tried it on several new saves and all end the same. Help would be appreciated

 

That's most likely either a missing requirement or (more likely if you are certain you got them all) the wrong version of one, or you've two conflicting versions of one. Make sure you've all the requirements, the right version of them (usually that's the newest one), the right version for your game (SE/AE) and only one of each. Particularly ZAZ seems problematic there, make certain you got version 8.0+, not the older 8.0. Also make sure you've no other mod that comes with an older version of ZAZ included.

[EliteCeltic]

46 minutes ago, Talesien said:

That's most likely either a missing requirement or (more likely if you are certain you got them all) the wrong version of one, or you've two conflicting versions of one. Make sure you've all the requirements, the right version of them (usually that's the newest one), the right version for your game (SE/AE) and only one of each. Particularly ZAZ seems problematic there, make certain you got version 8.0+, not the older 8.0. Also make sure you've no other mod that comes with an older version of ZAZ included.

Im running the 8.0 version since im using the special edition (1.5.97) ill give the 8.0+ a try though and see if that works

[EliteCeltic]

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

That's most likely either a missing requirement or (more likely if you are certain you got them all) the wrong version of one, or you've two conflicting versions of one. Make sure you've all the requirements, the right version of them (usually that's the newest one), the right version for your game (SE/AE) and only one of each. Particularly ZAZ seems problematic there, make certain you got version 8.0+, not the older 8.0. Also make sure you've no other mod that comes with an older version of ZAZ included.

unfortunately i'm still having an issue, i checked the status of the mod in MCM and it said that every optional and required mod was "true" so..i'm not sure what i've done wrong to make it this way

[VirginMarie]

19 minutes ago, EliteCeltic said:

unfortunately i'm still having an issue, i checked the status of the mod in MCM and it said that every optional and required mod was "true" so..i'm not sure what i've done wrong to make it this way

 

if you are saying you are still crashing

1. your case is almost always ZAP. ZAP 8.0 WILL absolutely CTD you
2. use this... CTD (crash) Scenarios, for the other possible cases
3. get us a crash log to help (using that link)

Edited July 18, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Lula Luv]

Because I use the SAM version of BakaFaktory, I discovered that there is a small bug with the revealing men's outfits. Instead of revealing the cock between the legs, there was only a big hole in the mesh.
So I made a small patch here that fixes this bug for SAM users.
Basically, I just replaced the body with the SAM body in the outfit files.
 

Dark Desires Club SE 1.2.0 - SAM Patch.7z

[Nikett7]

Hello, how critical is toys in this mod? Is it possible to get a version without dependency on toys? It's just that toys occupy slots of animations, which are already lacking. and does in fact not much different from sexlab. And to be honest, I would not want to install it, this is the only thing that stops me from installing this mod

[VirginMarie]

Announcement - New Caretaker for this mod

 

 @darkdesires04 has transferred ownership of Dark Desires Club to me. He's said he's taking a long term break.

 

Short Term Plan

1. I've agreed to, in the short term, support Dark Desires Club

Covenant - What I Promise NOT to Change

1. Style, Theme & Background Story... That's the @darkdesires04 secret sauce that made this mod an instant success. I owe it to him to not lose this
2. Beauty of the club and it's NPCs... the other part of the secret sauce

Longer Term Plans  <- this project now Complete

1. Remove the requirement for...  DD, SL, SLA, ZAP, and likely others. Nothing that breaks the covenant above though Complete
2. Utilizing Toy&Love more fully instead will allow: Complete
   • Faster, much faster for love scenes
   • More stable. Less lag even with the massive NPC count
   • Eliminate the top 2 support issues... 1) CTD  2) "I can't find the club"
     • Both are due to installation mistakes. We are going to make that harder to screw up
   • Dynamic use of more variety of toys from Toy Boxes you have installed
   • Orgies
   • Toy&Love's mini-game for love scene outcomes built in & optional (no need for SLSO)
3. LE version Not Possible
4. Male support Complete

Ideas are welcome. It all starts with updating to the modern non-legacy foundation to work from first... the list above. This is to be ready for its future.

Edited October 12, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Talesien]

5 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Announcement - New Caretaker for this mod

 

 @darkdesires04 has transferred ownership of Dark Desires Club to me. He's said he's taking a long term break.

 

Short Term Plan

1. I've agreed to, in the short term, support Dark Desires Club
2. Unless something critical comes up, I won't be uploading any changes this summer
   • Note that the latest version is marked beta, for a reason. Don't use the beta if you are looking for stability. Use beta to be on the bleeding edge!  

Covenant - What I Promise NOT to Change

1. Style, Theme & Background Story... That's the @darkdesires04 secret sauce that made this mod an instant success. I owe it to him to not lose this
2. Beauty of the club and it's NPCs... the other part of the secret sauce

Longer Term Plans

1. Remove the requirement for...  DD, SL, SLA, ZAP, and likely others. Nothing that breaks the covenant above though
2. Utilizing Toy&Love more fully instead will allow:
   • Faster, much faster for love scenes
   • More stable. Less lag even with the massive NPC count
   • Eliminate the top 2 support issues... 1) CTD  2) "I can't find the club"
     • Both are due to installation mistakes. We are going to make that harder to screw up
   • Dynamic use of more variety of toys from Toy Boxes you have installed
   • Orgies
   • Toy&Love's mini-game for love scene outcomes built in & optional (no need for SLSO)

Ideas are welcome. It all starts with updating to the modern non-legacy foundation to work from first... the list above. This is to be ready for its future.

 

Looking for Help

If an experienced mod author would like to take this project on in part, or take the primary role, please contact me. This project will be a team effort. I have a few people in mind to ask also.

 

Sorry to hear DarkDesire is leaving the scene for the time being. He had some interesting sounding plans for DDC. That said removing the whole DD/SL stuff from the mod also sounds interesting. Removing ZAP though ... didn't you recently state you've no plans to include furniture into the Toys framework in the foreseeable future? I don't think it can work both ways, unless you plan to add SLaVe like special scenes for all the furniture in the club. At which point you can likely just include furniture in Toys&Love as well.

Anyway at least now you've plenty of excuses to play around in the club.

 

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by Talesien

[killer905]

5 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Announcement - New Caretaker for this mod

 

 @darkdesires04 has transferred ownership of Dark Desires Club to me. He's said he's taking a long term break.

 

Short Term Plan

1. I've agreed to, in the short term, support Dark Desires Club
2. Unless something critical comes up, I won't be uploading any changes this summer
   • Note that the latest version is marked beta, for a reason. Don't use the beta if you are looking for stability. Use beta to be on the bleeding edge!  

Covenant - What I Promise NOT to Change

1. Style, Theme & Background Story... That's the @darkdesires04 secret sauce that made this mod an instant success. I owe it to him to not lose this
2. Beauty of the club and it's NPCs... the other part of the secret sauce

Longer Term Plans

1. Remove the requirement for...  DD, SL, SLA, ZAP, and likely others. Nothing that breaks the covenant above though
2. Utilizing Toy&Love more fully instead will allow:
   • Faster, much faster for love scenes
   • More stable. Less lag even with the massive NPC count
   • Eliminate the top 2 support issues... 1) CTD  2) "I can't find the club"
     • Both are due to installation mistakes. We are going to make that harder to screw up
   • Dynamic use of more variety of toys from Toy Boxes you have installed
   • Orgies
   • Toy&Love's mini-game for love scene outcomes built in & optional (no need for SLSO)

Ideas are welcome. It all starts with updating to the modern non-legacy foundation to work from first... the list above. This is to be ready for its future.

 

Looking for Help

If an experienced mod author would like to take this project on in part, or take the primary role, please contact me. This project will be a team effort. I have a few people in mind to ask also.

 

I did not expect this, but I think the mod will only benefit from it. Let's see how it will be. Tell me what's the chance for an official LE version?

[VirginMarie]

2 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Sorry to hear DarkDesire is leaving the scene for the time being. He had some interesting sounding plans for DDC. That said removing the whole DD/SL stuff from the mod also sounds interesting. Removing ZAP though ... didn't you recently state you've no plans to include furniture into the Toys framework in the foreseeable future? I don't think it can work both ways, unless you plan to add SLaVe like special scenes for all the furniture in the club. At which point you can likely just include furniture in Toys&Love as well.

 

I would have preferred if Darkdesires was not leaving, because yes, there are good plans. Maybe we can still do some of them, or similar.

 

Removing ZAP

6 years ago, SLaVE used ZAP in a big way. But for easier support, 4 years ago, ZAP was removed.

 

The custom animation scenes were in SLaVE from the start and needed. ZAP had no role to play in them. ZAP does not offer that capability. You have to "play" its animations yourself. ZAP is assets only, hardly a framework, unless a collection of great meshes, textures, and animations that you can use, is considered a framework. I call that a resource pack. It's in its name.... ZAZ Animations Pack  But its a legacy resource pack now, unsupported. 

 

Since permissions are open for this resource pack, you can integrate the assets, instead of requiring ZAP. Now that said, removing ZAP would be the lowest priority in that list. Maybe I never get around to it... but I'd like to kill off the top 2 support issues, and ZAP is part of that. The end result for the user... you get the same thing, but with less resources, only the ones you need, and no screwed up installation.

 

20 minutes ago, killer905 said:

I did not expect this, but I think the mod will only benefit from it. Let's see how it will be. Tell me what's the chance for an official LE version?

 

The chance of an LE version is high but can't promise it till I have dug in deep. If done, it would be part of the first phase plan described above, where we remove requirements and simplify. Not before that.

[EliteCeltic]

Hi there, sorry to be a bother again, I took a little break and wasn't able to get back. I ensured i downloaded ZaZ 8.0+ and feel like ive done everything im supposed to (tho most likely not lol) so here's my crash log, would really appreciate if someone can shed some light on it. A reminder of my issue is that i keep CTD every time i attempt to enter the club, it'll maybe last a couple of seconds, sometimes i wont even get past the loading screen but i always end up ctd'ing

Crash_2022_7_22_1-59-42.txt

Edited July 22, 2022 by EliteCeltic

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, EliteCeltic said:

Hi there, sorry to be a bother again, I took a little break and wasn't able to get back. I ensured i downloaded ZaZ 8.0+ and feel like ive done everything im supposed to (tho most likely not lol) so here's my crash log, would really appreciate if someone can shed some light on it. A reminder of my issue is that i keep CTD every time i attempt to enter the club, it'll maybe last a couple of seconds, sometimes i wont even get past the loading screen but i always end up ctd'ing

Crash_2022_7_22_1-59-42.txt 21.73 kB · 2 downloads

 

The probable callstack (as its called in your report), lists nothing but Skyrim itself. No mod listed as a victim.

I've not seen this before. Maybe @gregaaz knows more on this.

I think this means Its not a plugin issue (a regular mod). But it could be a non-plugin mod (a dll based utility mod).

 

Could be a supporting utility that supports your body...

• for example using a non-standard Skelton mod can case a CTD... or not having a skeleton mod?  you need this XP32 Maximum Skeleton  I could not see it in that report but I might be blind
• or wrong version of something like CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE if its required by your body (example CBBE 3BA needs)
• Check for current version of all mods supporting your body mod. If its CBBE 3BA (3BBB) you would check its requirements

If not body mod related, maybe this... SE versus AE Version Trap

Edited July 22, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Talesien]

8 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

The probable callstack (as its called in your report), lists nothing but Skyrim itself. No mod listed as a victim.

I've not seen this before. Maybe @gregaaz knows more on this.

I think this means Its not a plugin issue (a regular mod). But it could be a non-plugin mod (a dll based utility mod).

 

Could be a supporting utility that supports your body...

• for example using a non-standard Skelton mod can case a CTD... or not having a skeleton mod?  you need this XP32 Maximum Skeleton  I could not see it in that report but I might be blind
• or wrong version of something like CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE if its required by your body (example CBBE 3BA needs)
• Check for current version of all mods supporting your body mod. If its CBBE 3BA (3BBB) you would check its requirements

If not body mod related, maybe this... SE versus AE Version Trap

The plugin from XP32 is XPMSE.esp, that's present. He does have the CC plugins (Fishing, etc.) that automatically come with the update to 1.6x, since the game version is reported as 1.5.97 I assume the game was downgraded again? Still don't trust those downgraders to work 100%. Otherwise I can't see anything either, but then I'm not that good at reading those as Gregaaz, so hopefully he can shine some light onto it.