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Posted
18 hours ago, Talesien said:

Dunno, as I see it DDC is basically a BDSM themed strip club/brothel. They tend to have people watching, after all they want their patrons to pay for sex, not take it for free

You speak of as this was customer thing. I say and said its rotten apple thing.

Posted

I finally had a chance to try this mod out a bit and am fairly happy with it.  There are a few things I wanted suggest and ask about.

 

The simple slavery side of things works fairly well from what I see but there are 2 critical items missing.  There's nowhere to sleep that I could find, and the bartender sells nothing to drink, only food.  This is only really a problem if using a needs mod like iNeed, RND, etc.  but those are common enough with the popularity of mod like Hot&Wet and Sexlab Survival that it seems like a bit of a problem.  Even if it's only a simple hay pile in the dungeon area there should be something.

 

I've run through what I believe is most of the content available from arena fighting to various shows and I'm trying to figure out what DDi is used for.  Aside from a couple of items that mistress dresses me in I couldn't figure out what it was used for.    The one really unique item, the pet collar, is very clearly from Toys.  The notifications also appear to use the Toys Voice in my Head feature.

 

Considering the general lack of any attention from the DDi team to the SE port it really does need to serve a purpose beyond more wearable items to justify it as a hard dependency.  Is there a need in the mod that DDi actually fills?  If not, then removing it as a hard dependency would make it much easier to fit the entire required package into a load order and reduce the number of animations needed.  Fewer animations can lead to better stability as noted in FNIS.

 

 

Posted
10 hours ago, mercplatypus said:

I finally had a chance to try this mod out a bit and am fairly happy with it.  There are a few things I wanted suggest and ask about.

 

The simple slavery side of things works fairly well from what I see but there are 2 critical items missing.  There's nowhere to sleep that I could find, and the bartender sells nothing to drink, only food.  This is only really a problem if using a needs mod like iNeed, RND, etc.  but those are common enough with the popularity of mod like Hot&Wet and Sexlab Survival that it seems like a bit of a problem.  Even if it's only a simple hay pile in the dungeon area there should be something.

 

I've run through what I believe is most of the content available from arena fighting to various shows and I'm trying to figure out what DDi is used for.  Aside from a couple of items that mistress dresses me in I couldn't figure out what it was used for.    The one really unique item, the pet collar, is very clearly from Toys.  The notifications also appear to use the Toys Voice in my Head feature.

 

Considering the general lack of any attention from the DDi team to the SE port it really does need to serve a purpose beyond more wearable items to justify it as a hard dependency.  Is there a need in the mod that DDi actually fills?  If not, then removing it as a hard dependency would make it much easier to fit the entire required package into a load order and reduce the number of animations needed.  Fewer animations can lead to better stability as noted in FNIS.

 

 

 

I could add a place to sleep and food to the vendor. That's easy to do.


The DDi brings in 11 bondage items into the mod, which is not that few. It could be made a soft dependency. But for those people that do have DDi installed, if it was a soft dependency, all the bondage items should still be available. Also the mod would still have to recognize DDi bondage items, such as yoke, in dialogue choices and sex scenes. And some NPCs ask to equip a harness from DDi in a quest.

Overall it would be a lot of work to make it a soft dependency and it would take some bondage items out of the game, with NPCs asking to equip harnesses from toys only, for this benefit of fewer animations in FNIS and one less hard dependency. So I have decided I am not making this change, at least for now.

 

Posted
3 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

 

I could add a place to sleep and food to the vendor. That's easy to do.


The DDi brings in 11 bondage items into the mod, which is not that few. It could be made a soft dependency. But for those people that do have DDi installed, if it was a soft dependency, all the bondage items should still be available. Also the mod would still have to recognize DDi bondage items, such as yoke, in dialogue choices and sex scenes. And some NPCs ask to equip a harness from DDi in a quest.

Overall it would be a lot of work to make it a soft dependency and it would take some bondage items out of the game, with NPCs asking to equip harnesses from toys only, for this benefit of fewer animations in FNIS and one less hard dependency. So I have decided I am not making this change, at least for now.

 

I can see how that would be a great deal of work.

 

Also, I realized I was talking to the wrong bartender for food and drink.  I was talking to the guy next to the arena.  I didn't realize the lady on the other side of the club was also a bartender and she does sell all the essentials.  Mostly all that's needed for needs mods is a place to be able to sleep.  

Posted

Hey all,

Decided to try this mod out and it looks great, however I have  issue (which I am not sure if my load order would help).   

The first issue is that I can't seem to get the quest where I have to rub pussies with another girl.  It says on the top left 'Could not 
start sex scene' and I've had that with another for a 3-some with another girl and a guy.  Not sure if it has to do with girl on girl
animations.  Any ideas?

 

Here's my load order just in case:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Heels Sound.esm
  6  6     SGEyebrows.esp
  7  7     High Poly Head.esm
254 FE   0 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
  8  8     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHair.esm
 10  a     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 11  b     FISS.esp
 12  c     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
 13  d     Falskaar.esm
254 FE   1 Beards of Power.esp
254 FE   2 Lightened Skyrim - merged.esp
 14  e     Paradise_City_RESOURCES.esm
254 FE   3 Landscape and Water Fixes.esp
 15  f     EFFCore.esm
 16 10     3DNPC.esp
 17 11     SexLab.esm
 18 12     SexLabAroused.esm
 19 13     CreatureFramework.esm
 20 14     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 21 15     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 22 16     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 23 17     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 24 18     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 25 19     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
254 FE   4 Toys.esm
 26 1a     Monster Mod SE.esm
 27 1b     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuHH.esp
 31 1f     SkyUI_SE.esp
 32 20     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 33 21     XPMSE.esp
 34 22     Atlas Map Markers.esp
 35 23     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
 36 24     Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
 37 25     Obsidian Weathers.esp
 38 26     Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 39 27     DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
254 FE   5 DeadlySpellImpacts Transparency Fix.esp
 40 28     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
254 FE   6 KSHairdosSMP.esp
254 FE   7 Brows.esp
 41 29     CBBE.esp
 42 2a     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 43 2b     FNIS.esp
 44 2c     ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
 45 2d     Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp
 46 2e     Dawn of Skyrim.esp
 47 2f     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 48 30     Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
254 FE   8 FleshFX.esp
 49 31     UIExtensions.esp
 50 32     RealisticNordShips2.0.esp
 51 33     AMatterOfTime.esp
254 FE   9 Falskaar - Bug Fixes.esp
 52 34     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 53 35     WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
 54 36     Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
 55 37     Better Harvesting.esp
 56 38     Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
 57 39     BlendedRoads.esp
254 FE   a Blended Shorelines.esp
 58 3a     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 59 3b     Enhanced Interiors Lite.esp
254 FE   b Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp
254 FE   c fallenbridgesSSE-Patch.esp
 60 3c     fallentreebridgesSSE.esp
 61 3d     ImprovedRoads.esp
254 FE   d Interesting Roads.esp
254 FE   e JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp
 62 3e     Kai's Lipstick.esp
254 FE   f KaliliesBrows.esp
 63 3f     Lux.esp
 64 40     MikanEyes All in one SE.esp
254 FE  10 BlendedRoadsFixes.esp
 65 41     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
           ELFX - Weathers.esp
 66 42     ELFXEnhancer.esp
 67 43     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 68 44     The Flora of Skyrim Trees SSE.esp
 69 45     Paradise_City_Merged.esp
 70 46     Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
 71 47     KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp
 72 48     SlaveTats.esp
 73 49     Smoking Torches and Candles.esp
 74 4a     Mixed_Sexy_Loadscreens.esp
254 FE  11 Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - ELFX.esp
 75 4b     Shadowmere  Rework.esp
 76 4c     Skyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.esp
 77 4d     SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
 78 4e     StrangeRunes.esp
 79 4f     tpos_forgottencity_entrance.esp
 80 50     ForgottenCity.esp
 81 51     middenexpandedSSE.esp
 82 52     tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
 83 53     UltimateCombat.esp
 84 54     BeandBarbSpecials.esp
 85 55     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 86 56     Vanilla Rain and Snow Remade.esp
 87 57     Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp
254 FE  12 Weathered Road Signs.esp
 88 58     AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
 89 59     RabbitHole.esp
 90 5a     Demonika.esp
254 FE  13 Bowgasm.esp
 91 5b     EFFDialogue.esp
 92 5c     UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
 93 5d     Silverpeak Lodge.esp
 94 5e     Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
 95 5f     Skytest Animallica.esp
 96 60     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 97 61     OBIS SE.esp
 98 62     Skytest Beasts of Tamriel.esp
 99 63     Animallica.esp
100 64     notice board.esp
101 65     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
102 66     OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
254 FE  14 Odin - Summons Redone.esp
103 67     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
104 68     Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
105 69     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
106 6a     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
107 6b     Cutting Room Floor.esp
108 6c     CandyShops.esp
109 6d     Combat Evolved.esp
110 6e     Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
111 6f     Extended Encounters.esp
112 70     WadeInWater.esp
           tpos_complete02_RTCWG.esp
113 71     tpos_farmhouseinns_el&fx_patch.esp
114 72     WR_EL&FX_Exterior_Patch.esp
115 73     MerchantsOfSkyrim.esp
254 FE  15 3DNPC0.esp
254 FE  16 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE  17 Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE  18 Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp
254 FE  19 Qw_CACO_BookCoversSkyrim Patch.esp
254 FE  1a Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp
116 74     AddItemMenuSE.esp
117 75     PlayerWalksIndoors.esp
118 76     SleepForMeNow.esp
254 FE  1b SIL_SleepForMeNow.esp
254 FE  1c Sleep in Lingerie.esp
119 77     WhiterunAddition.esp
120 78     Whiterun_Reimagined.esp
121 79     skryrimfarmhouseinns.esp
254 FE  1d GMsHair aXing.esp
122 7a     12FemaleBrows.esp
123 7b     Cum Alchemy.esp
124 7c     SLAnimLoader.esp
125 7d     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
126 7e     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
127 7f     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
128 80     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
129 81     MoreNastyCritters.esp
130 82     HentaiCreatures.esp
131 83     MassMatchMakerSE.esp
254 FE  1e BakaFactoryABC.esp
132 84     AnubAnimObj.esp
133 85     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
134 86     Blades Hakama SE.esp
254 FE  1f Goddess.esp
135 87     UNP Undies.esp
254 FE  20 CBBE Standalone Underwear.esp
254 FE  21 CrazyMagicianGlassRobe.esp
136 88     Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp
137 89     Lazman_Outfits.esp
138 8a     Beasts of Tamriel.esp
139 8b     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
140 8c     BooksOfDibella.esp
141 8d     HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp
142 8e     BlackLaceMiniDress.esp
254 FE  22 3BBB.esp
143 8f     KS Jewelry.esp
144 90     Kala_Eyes.esp
254 FE  23 High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand Alone.esp
145 91     FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
254 FE  24 [Ryan Reos] Dark Elf Blader.esp
146 92     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
147 93     Devious Devices For Him.esp
254 FE  25 Devious Devices SE patch.esp
148 94     Naked Dungeons.esp
254 FE  26 KomRoseButt.esp
254 FE  27 LiveADeviantLife.esp
149 95     Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
150 96     SLSO.esp
151 97     SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp
152 98     _GSPoses.esp
153 99     Monster Mod SE.esp
154 9a     mihailskaafin.esp
254 FE  28 mihailgrummite.esp
254 FE  29 mihailgoblins.esp
254 FE  2a mihailvampirebeasts.esp
254 FE  2b mihailhungerandvermai.esp
254 FE  2c mihailogres.esp
254 FE  2d mihailbolgan.esp
254 FE  2e mihailcyrodiilianminotaur.esp
254 FE  2f mihailthrikreen.esp
155 9b     mihailbonetyrant.esp
156 9c     mihaillich.esp
157 9d     FurnitureMarkerSex.esp
158 9e     KS Hairdo's.esp
159 9f     FNISspells.esp
160 a0     Raina.esp
161 a1     SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
162 a2     DarkDesiresClub.esp
254 FE  30 MiscHeelsEins_CBBE.esp
254 FE  31 BBD_NereidPirate.esp
 

Thanks for any help.

Graham C.

Posted
7 hours ago, Grayc said:

It says on the top left 'Could not 
start sex scene' and I've had that with another for a 3-some with another girl and a guy.  Not sure if it has to do with girl on girl
animations.  Any ideas?

You sure you installed the required animation packs, ran FNIS (or Nemesis) and added those animations to SexLab with the SL Animation Loader? It's easy to forget the last step. ^^

Posted
11 hours ago, Grayc said:

It says on the top left 'Could not start sex scene' and I've had that with another for a 3-some with another girl and a guy.  

 

I believe it says this when a toy or device is blocking, making the type of love scene not possible. Could say it for other reasons though.

Posted
On 2/10/2022 at 5:11 AM, darkdesires04 said:

 

Nicole is in the VIP room, and the quest there is to free her. You can find toys in the wardrobe by the arena or in black boxes scattered around the club.

 

The tasks are all the same, at least for now, after reaching higher obedience. The only difference is that you can complete the final challenge task once the obedience is high enough.

 

Yes you can just type commands in the console to progress the obedience or do other things in the club, but I should not post them. It's all in the source code, just take a look.

 

I have looked but can not find. Its taking me forever to advance due to satisfaction. It has taken several days to get to 21. Can you pm me with commands.

Posted

Thank you for the mod. It works properly for me. I realize now though that I misunderstood it a bit and thought it would allow my male character to solicit (and pay) for one of the girls. Something to consider, as I think the space is really neat and it would be fun to make some stops in Whiterun to visit the club. Agreed on the MCM membership type mentioned earlier too.

Posted

I'm having an issue where I've installed the mod, but I'm not seeing it in the MCM or in  game at the described location. I'm using NMM, are there any manual files I should be aware of?

 

Posted
1 hour ago, PMalikov said:

I'm having an issue where I've installed the mod, but I'm not seeing it in the MCM or in  game at the described location. I'm using NMM, are there any manual files I should be aware of?

 

 

Troubleshooting #4 might help, particularly if Toys MCM is also not showing up.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, mercplatypus said:

What level of obedience do you need for the final task?

 

You need to be level 25 and have no debt towards the club.

Edited by darkdesires04
Posted

So guys, here's what I am thinking going forward. I won't be updating the club with minor changes any more, for a while. 

Instead, I am going to add a bunch of sex quests you can do inside and outside the club. I am thinking that these sex quests will be interconnected with other mods and related to a bigger main quest and a story where you have to defeat a sex demon. The other mods won't be required as a hard dependency. It should be fun to see how it all fits together. I will play Skyrim and add these quests as I play, so it will take a while.

Posted
13 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

So guys, here's what I am thinking going forward. I won't be updating the club with minor changes any more, for a while. 

Instead, I am going to add a bunch of sex quests you can do inside and outside the club. I am thinking that these sex quests will be interconnected with other mods and related to a bigger main quest and a story where you have to defeat a sex demon. The other mods won't be required as a hard dependency. It should be fun to see how it all fits together. I will play Skyrim and add these quests as I play, so it will take a while.

Before you d0o that. There is to much piled into one script file. Several interactions just pause and stay paused with no way to move forward. Sometimes they work sometimes they dont. Maybe its some form of bloat or overload of skyrim engine.  I would break up the script files by interactions into there own categories. That would make it easier for MCM troubleshooting script at a later date.  

On another note Callisa needs more story. I turned her into Master follower with Sub Lola and Devious Follower after finishing club. Nicole needs more story also. Made her into whore follower. You can have a poll for what mods people are most interested in. Sex Demon final should allow for win or recruitment. 

Sexlife interferes with mod also by stealing away your current sex trick. Maybe utilize that for club interactions and make it compatible. 

Posted
26 minutes ago, BigOnes69 said:

Before you d0o that. There is to much piled into one script file. Several interactions just pause and stay paused with no way to move forward. Sometimes they work sometimes they dont. Maybe its some form of bloat or overload of skyrim engine.  I would break up the script files by interactions into there own categories. That would make it easier for MCM troubleshooting script at a later date.  

On another note Callisa needs more story. I turned her into Master follower with Sub Lola and Devious Follower after finishing club. Nicole needs more story also. Made her into whore follower. You can have a poll for what mods people are most interested in. Sex Demon final should allow for win or recruitment. 

Sexlife interferes with mod also by stealing away your current sex trick. Maybe utilize that for club interactions and make it compatible. 

If interactions stay paused, it's maybe that the script crashed, because too many other mods are also running scripts in the background and there is an overload at some point or other mods are blocking the dialogue. I am not sure why some people get stuck on the fuck machine. That's a separate issue. But these issues don't happen on my computer so I can't really do anything about it, unless I install other mods that I don't have to see if they break this mod.  I am not sure how breaking up the main file would help troubleshoot it in the MCM. I use the log file to check for errors, and I don't see any errors in there.

I would focus a main story on Calissa, and maybe tie it to Nicole. Calissa should not be turned into follower, at least not until the story that I will add is completed. Turning her into a follower would cause issues, if you are a slave in the club, unless I add compatibility that you can do that. As far as Sexlife, I never used it. Sure, I will install it and see if I can make that mod not conflict with the club dialogue. Maybe I could make Sexlife compatible and chose the sex scenes based on sex preferences from that mod.

Posted
1 hour ago, darkdesires04 said:

If interactions stay paused, it's maybe that the script crashed, because too many other mods are also running scripts in the background and there is an overload at some point or other mods are blocking the dialogue. I am not sure why some people get stuck on the fuck machine. That's a separate issue. But these issues don't happen on my computer so I can't really do anything about it, unless I install other mods that I don't have to see if they break this mod.  I am not sure how breaking up the main file would help troubleshoot it in the MCM. I use the log file to check for errors, and I don't see any errors in there.

I would focus a main story on Calissa, and maybe tie it to Nicole. Calissa should not be turned into follower, at least not until the story that I will add is completed. Turning her into a follower would cause issues, if you are a slave in the club, unless I add compatibility that you can do that. As far as Sexlife, I never used it. Sure, I will install it and see if I can make that mod not conflict with the club dialogue. Maybe I could make Sexlife compatible and chose the sex scenes based on sex preferences from that mod.

Breaking up that super large script would cause less conflict but its your mod. 

I have not had problems with Callisa as master for Submissive Lola mod yet. Nicole just got used by Radiant prostitution as second whore for the military camp quest and have no problems there.  She is also being utilized as the Devious Follower for that mod. I have no conflicts there. Dont know if that helps but hope it does. Good luck.

Posted

um i have quest for all girls sex show but theres no girl in the stage,
and sometime when mistress ask my chara to do pole dance all the pole dance is being used and the only one available is in the place where no one gonna see u
also when ask by mistress to use fuck machine theres already someone there so i cant complete it and always fail

is there any way to fix the quest, and a way to make the pc force people using dd to go and use it

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Madyo said:

um i have quest for all girls sex show but theres no girl in the stage,
and sometime when mistress ask my chara to do pole dance all the pole dance is being used and the only one available is in the place where no one gonna see u
also when ask by mistress to use fuck machine theres already someone there so i cant complete it and always fail

is there any way to fix the quest, and a way to make the pc force people using dd to go and use it

 

Yes it happens that these quests can't be completed right away, but you can ask the mistress for another task. She can give you up to 3 tasks, and not all of them have to be completed. Nothing happens if they are not completed, once you finish the main quest and the mistress says you can leave the club.

 

Forcing girls off would just add more scripting logic and there's already a lot going on. Sometimes there are people by the third dancing pole, the other two are mostly always occupied. There should always be someone on the stage or coming to the stage within a few minutes. But I could add a fix so that the mistress doesn't give the stage quest unless there is someone on the stage at that moment.

 

Edited by darkdesires04
Posted

I have a high heel issue after I installed this mod.

Whenever PC has sex, her high heels is on even if I set to remove in SL framework.

 

So for test, I uninstalled Dark Desire mod, and sexed. You know what, PC removes her high heels without this mod.

 

I think there is something wrong with high heel slot issue between SL framework and this mod.....

 

Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

 

Yes it happens that these quests can't be completed right away, but you can ask the mistress for another task. She can give you up to 3 tasks, and not all of them have to be completed. Nothing happens if they are not completed, once you finish the main quest and the mistress says you can leave the club.

 

Forcing girls off would just add more scripting logic and there's already a lot going on. Sometimes there are people by the third dancing pole, the other two are mostly always occupied. There should always be someone on the stage or coming to the stage within a few minutes. But I could add a fix so that the mistress doesn't give the stage quest unless there is someone on the stage at that moment.

 

great, thanks alot man, my chara finally become mistress beloved slaved and allowed to go outside world, cant wait for another quest and feature update to humiliate my chara, (to see dragonborn skyrim most powerfull girl, the hero, the world savior got humiliate mwehehe cant wait)

Edited by Madyo
edited
Posted
10 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

I have a high heel issue after I installed this mod.

Whenever PC has sex, her high heels is on even if I set to remove in SL framework.

 

So for test, I uninstalled Dark Desire mod, and sexed. You know what, PC removes her high heels without this mod.

 

I think there is something wrong with high heel slot issue between SL framework and this mod.....

 

 

This mod doesn't have any high heel logic for the player. Only NPCs that dance put on high heels, but that's it.

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