Bodyslide Outfits for Atomic Beauty and IKAROS Android Race OCBP 3BBB

[Gameplayer]

Building up the Wardrobe7, Katrina_Outfit_IKAROS version has been built,

Before sure you could build it with the parts but this is the whole outfit plus I have made all the cyber stuff work properly for IKAROS and Katrina has special gloves just for Cyberarm which now work also.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus all the first person objects for these arms are also made, just finished them up tonight.  Also the human versions got fixed up nice.

 

[Gameplayer]

More is coming no worries, Tip save 10 gigs of space on the mega texture pack use this!

 

I have another update round for Wardrobe8 coming, missed some thigh weight paints on some models, edited the ESP some more for better usage of Vampire gear.

 

And here is a heads up of a method to compress your files,

Cathedral assets Optimizer, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316

 

Alright whats this?

Its a third party program for creation of BA2 archive for Beth games specifically for mods that you might download.  BA2 compresses the files in a format that saves space and makes it take less RAM/VRAM when grabbing files for usage.  In the case of something like Wardrobe8 RAM/VRAM is not the issue what is the issue is that if you download the materials option it is a whooping 17.5 Gigs of space on your solid state drive....We can divide that in half....Other mods such as say SMIM for SkyrimSE that makes objects to replace everything yup then RAM/VRAM usage is a major concern for people not using latest technology and Cathedral Optimizer handles those sorts of issues!

 

 

As you can see here, I have 4 BSA's total of 7.17 Gigs of space on my drive now....And I can safely delete that texture folder now.

 

The program is simple to use and well ultimately its up to you if saving ~10 Gigs of space! is worth while.

Now sure I have had people tell me, "oh bullshit you did not save 2/3 thirds of your space by packing a texture folder into BA2."

Well there's the picture!  Eat it.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Gameplayer

[Gameplayer]

Just figured something out,

So the keyword for the Leotard was not present for the SB Vamp Outfit....Putting it there makes it so that the player can switch the color swatch on the SB outfit.

So trying to figure out if I can also make it switch the Jacket color in the SB Outfit.

 

So, I just made a new keyword to act as an attachpoint for the Vampire Jacket color swaps,  Then just replace the keyword at the attach point in the Color Swaps for the Jacket here.

 

Yup all the new attach point keyword worked just fine and now an outfit that did not have swaps has them.  Although the metal trim changed that was not expected.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Gameplayer

[Gameplayer]

Working my way through SB Outfits,

 

Checking all ZAPs, checking for clipping, and especially adding extra functionality to these.

Example, this is the Super Busty Trish Outfit, normally it would not have material swaps....I have added those in and to top it off you can change the shorts, top, belts...All at an armor bench.  I had to make some gloves for the IKAROS version sorry guys that one slipped past me.

Other than gloves and gauntlets this is one outfit in pipboy rather than a bunch of seperate parts...Super Busty version otherwise has no material swaps but these will.

Sorry its not a great photo, not doing photo shoots just making the stuff work and work better.

 

So, continuing 

The Wastelander Outfits for Super Busty have a lot more parts....So here is about 200-300 Fo4edits later, mostly putting the new keywords into the OMOD texture data handler headers.

Now to add the keyword attach point for an outfit containing a lot of parts each part also has to have the proper new keyword attach parent slot word.

Basically change outfit, also have to change all one off parts involved in that outfit otherwise those parts lose their swatches.

 

New Wastelander Super Busty with color swatches coming soon.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Gameplayer

[Gameplayer]

All work on Wardrobe8 Super Busty Outfit color swatching has been completed and uploaded!

 

Version 1.9.7

-All Outfits now have color swatching options, no other VTAW Wardrobe8 has this as an option.

-All Super Busty Outfits have Bodyslide Slider Sets, no other VTAW Wardrobe8 Bodyslide has this as an option

-All objects that should have 1stperson objects that maybe some players and mod authors do not think about you guessed it, its right here and no where else,

-Vampire Gloves made for IKAROS

 

There may have been other edits, but after around ~500 edits or so it gets sort of hazy.

[Gameplayer]

Uploaded an Update for VTAW Wardrobe7,

-Created Game Diva IKAROS version,

-Created Katrina Cyber and Cybergloved IKAROS versions, <---Arms sliders.  Greatly improves the Cyberarm equip.

-Created Super Busty Black Cat Outfit for human and IKAROS,

-Added High Heel sounds to all heels

 

 

I think I am done for a while now with terrorizing the community with updates...

Who am I kidding cant stop at one tweak now can we?

In all seriousness, I will likely now play the game with the new stuff I have worked on.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Gameplayer

[Gameplayer]

Gameplayer Improv Guide, How to Outfit Studio..."How to refit an outfit part against another outfit part."

 

Example, you open up your game...Get some outfit parts together and then you decide, "Oh man it would be cool if these two parts would fit together."

Oh shoot, why wont these two tops fit together...Although more likely a player might first try a Bra and a Shirt...In this case we are looking at a tank with a shirt.

 

Now as a player you will run into these quite a bit and to a degree the end-user is going to have to spruce up what they want out of all their parts they have so this tut is aimed at everybody, not just a budding Outfit Studio author.

Open the File to be worked on, now with Windows Explorer, find the outfit part to be placed under the artical of clothing.  Drag and Drop it into the OS window.

 

Select the Object to be worked on, in this case the "cropped shirt" will be the piece that is to be fitted over the Tank Top....Using the Inflate Tool we can now make it bigger than the Tank Top.

 

Here is the result.  Now of course this wont be included in the next Update and it really should not be.  The reason being is that now the cropped shirt is much larger and wont fit as nicely on the character without say a tank top underneath it.  Now sure a Bra makes more since especially when it is tight fitting bra then of course that probably should be in a finished product.

 

Again this is more for your personal use to make it work for you.

 

Also we can actually export the NIF and even fit it to a specific Atomic Beauty body using the sliders on the RIGHT panel....Then when it is to your sizes of preset just go to 

FILE->Export Mesh....This way the effect to the slider set itself need not be permanent.

[Gameplayer]

I just cannot find this halter top...Maybe its a color swatch from one of the other tops?

 

It is one of the pics for VTAW8 but just cannot figure out which top it is....

 

Other than that, still working on VTAW8 bodyslides,

Found that High Heel did not have the thigh paints.

 

Worked on making knotted shirt fit over teddy, should be pretty cool.

Put the IKAROS torso into a lot more items checking for clipping on specifically IKAROS, fixed a lot of that stuff.

 

Actually attempting to play with a mod as a Bodyslide Author well you start to find stuff and want to tweak even more.

[Gameplayer]

On Armor Mods....Hot Tip, Stuff even the armor mod authors dont know about.

 

Dont put "Footstep Sound" on every single item in your armorAA package.

 

Basically, its something that I, you and everyone else cannot be expected to know about, and its not the first issue about armor modding that I have run into something that is not widely known.  Take for instance proper 1st person arms, that has been something at the root of the community issues with armor modding going all the way back and I'm not expecting that to change any time soon.  No proper 1st person arms is 100% the culprit for such issues as "Double Body Bug" type that in a google search engine you will get quite a few hits on that.  Along with improper use of "Precision Meshes" which actually is not what it sounds like, "Precision" for Beth games handles blood effects but in a lot of cases it end up on every item, this leads to weird "Black Triangle Bug".  I have touched on black triangle bug in this thread, however later I will use some pictures and show edits and effects perhaps even what clearly is black triangle bug so you will know what I am talking about.

 

Jeez, this is crazy...

Because the game will actually attempt to play every single footstep sound attached to every single item worn by all NPC's.

This is what causes the weird sounds that sometimes happens when the player is running around wearing a bunch of these items and more than likely very hard for most if not all end-users to identify.

 

How I realized it was a problem,

Well I had attached HighHeel footstep sound to all the heeled shoe's and was getting weird sound effects going on that I did not expect....Then I remembered that at one point I had attached a sexualized sound effect to "Footstep sound" for Skyrim to make the player make erotic sounds as they walked, no not as cool as that may sound.  However the experience of that meant that I knew you could have multiple footstep sounds for the player as far back as Skyrim.

 

So if the footstep sounds get out of sync for these items, you end up with weird sounds while moving basically.  You may hear what sounds like a physics sound issue like a loose item colliding with the ground or wall, but your unable to find it because its your worn gear that is causing this issue not a loose item in fact.

 

What item should have "Footstep Sound" on it?

Bodyslot 33 items or basically Footwear.

 

It is quite astonishing that this effect is so prevalently placed throughout all these packs >< just changing Wardrobe 8 took 270 edits to remove this.

 

This update is not yet available sorry, only just fixed up Wardrobe 7 and 8, not gotten around to packing it at this time.

Edited July 17, 2022 by Gameplayer

[rifleman2c]

Hello, I think I might need some assistance. After installing Athena X Cammy battlesuit and the Nevermind_44 Blackwidow suit, and all associated patches, I build them in bodyslide and they still look off. Even after opening them up in outfit studio, conforming the sliders and adjusting the mesh volumes in both to try to fit the reference body.

 

 

The left side is what it looks like in Bodyslide, the right is what I have in outfit studio after I conformed sliders then proceed to adjust all the meshes. 

[Gameplayer]

43 minutes ago, rifleman2c said:

Hello, I think I might need some assistance. After installing Athena X Cammy battlesuit and the Nevermind_44 Blackwidow suit, and all associated patches, I build them in bodyslide and they still look off. Even after opening them up in outfit studio, conforming the sliders and adjusting the mesh volumes in both to try to fit the reference body.

 

 

The left side is what it looks like in Bodyslide, the right is what I have in outfit studio after I conformed sliders then proceed to adjust all the meshes. 

 

Thanks for letting me know.

I'll get to it probably tonight.

[rifleman2c]

12 hours ago, Gameplayer said:

 

Thanks for letting me know.

I'll get to it probably tonight.

 

 

Oh thank you I was wonder if I were doing something incorrect.

[Gameplayer]

15 minutes ago, rifleman2c said:

 

 

Oh thank you I was wonder if I were doing something incorrect.

Yup, I fixed up the IKAROS body, not really sure why it broke cause last year it was working fine so it probably was just the method of how I went about it back then does not agree with the current Bodyslide version.

 

This time I just imported each part of the IKAROS reference and duplicated each part rather than trying to import a preZapped body.

[vraven1997]

Do you have a guide reference of how your converting these armors? I wanted to take a crack at this mod "CROSS_Strigidae IKAROS CBBE Bodyslide Conversion w Armorsmith Extended Version" "https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/48394"

It's a patch mod to work with Ikaros but it only uses the cbbe body instead of atomic beauty. So I just want to figure out how I  can change it to use the atomic beauty body so I can use my personal body preset.

[Gameplayer]

1 hour ago, vraven1997 said:

Do you have a guide reference of how your converting these armors? I wanted to take a crack at this mod "CROSS_Strigidae IKAROS CBBE Bodyslide Conversion w Armorsmith Extended Version" "https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/48394"

It's a patch mod to work with Ikaros but it only uses the cbbe body instead of atomic beauty. So I just want to figure out how I  can change it to use the atomic beauty body so I can use my personal body preset.

 

I actually do have a guide for how to make conversions with Bodyslide....Sort of wrote it directly into this very comments thread here.

Begins on Page 11, and continues into this page.

 

Just been writing in the information as I use it so to speak during a conversion of a file or a fix of a file.

Topics such as, 

How to convert CBBE to TWB to Atomic Beauty body using References.

When is the best time to apply a bone weight copy?

How to make Atomic Beauty work with High Heels...(there are almost no actual bodyslides of AB heels so uh most qualified here)

-How to make AB body have heeled feet

-How to move shoes independantly of each other to correct position of the feet

-How to weight paint the heels for best movement

How to make proper 1st person arms both in Outfit Studio and edit the ESP

-First person hands and multi race hands how to

How to properly weight paint the chest piece breast nodes by hand

How to properly name your Bodyslide slider set, and why it matters

-Making Group Sets, and why it matters

How to properly create ArmorAA entries for a new Race

Tips on how to make Super Busty Outfit versions of your outfits

How to quickly assemble an outfit for which no Slider has ever been made

How to ZAP for IKAROS

And much more

 

The posts assume you already have been through a basic guide and understand basic Outfit Studio operations, following the posts will push your understanding of exactly what can be accomplished by Outfit Studio and its a heck of a lot further than some basic guide will take you.  

I wrote the posts as I came across them while working in Outfit Studio on an outfit conversion.

 

 

[vraven1997]

Awesome I appreciate it. I got this Blade Runner vibe going and thought this outfit would be perfect.

[Gameplayer]

Updated VTAW Wardrobe8, Camel Toe Matters edition!

 

Corrected some Foot Step sounds in the ESP across the whole volume of outfit parts, found that having "Footstep sound" on each part could lead to odd sounds probably getting out of sync and was kind of confused wondering at first is this a physics issue, nope it was a sound effect on each ArmorAA in the ESP ><

 

Well I have been playing the heck out of the game using the new Super Busty Vampire Outfit and Super Busty Trish Outfit....

What could make those outfits even better'er?

Fix up sliders so there is less clipping?  Well YES i did that, BUT NO!

Camel Toe, friend....Deep Camel Toe.

 

[warblegarblegarble]

How did you convert Heather, or any companion in general, to Ikaros?

[Gameplayer]

42 minutes ago, warblegarblegarble said:

How did you convert Heather, or any companion in general, to Ikaros?

 

My first attempt at converting Heather was to use console commands, I think it was "set race" 

Think I found that over at a Skyrim based wiki console commands site.

Anyway that did work, thing was for some reason it did not stick, Heather would revert back after some time spent playing.

 

So what I did was open up the ESP for Heather with Fo4edit.

Find her RACE entry which is one of the main headers on the left panel.

Then changed her race to IKAROS.

 

Also had to find her BodyData which does reference human body parts, had to swap all of those over to IKAROS versions.

 

That was it, nothing fancy was done, cannot change her face in Fo4edit but you can with Construction Kit, and there may be other methods,

 

Such as using Showlooksmenu which I use to change her looks using a Preset, that I simply saved off the player characters face right after getting the whole player IKAROS sorted out.

 

If one wanted to alter a in game NPC such as oh Piper or Curie they would have to do pretty much the same thing, Find their race entries and change them as well as Body Part Data.

Its about half a dozen edits, only issue is that if you dont have say a plug in that is specific to changing say Piper well you have to dig through the Fallout4.ESM which will eat up some time hunting down her NPC entry.

[Gameplayer]

Waaaahhh, Waaaahhh

 

The instructions for Fallout 4 Sex mini-game read the fucking manual says that I cant use Knee-Skeleton with ZAZ skeleton !!!!

 

Uh ok....

 

Gender-Specific Skeletons

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/40866

 

Problem solved.

[fatumex]

Would you consider converting the Outfits from the Nuka Ride Mod to Ikaros? 

[Gameplayer]

13 hours ago, fatumex said:

Would you consider converting the Outfits from the Nuka Ride Mod to Ikaros? 

 

If I do it wont be soon, still have some fixes and tweaks coming for existing files.

[RogueScoundrel]

Hi, I have an odd bug that I can't wrap my head around. So this mod works fine with CBBE Body, all the necessary patches installed, I don't use other armor/clothing mod. There is, however, a Far Harbor Set absolutely refuses to be made proper with IKAROS, and those are the Assault Mariner Outer Armor Set and Marine Wetsuit. These are the only ones I found that are unable to appear, because every other outfits and armors appears just fine. I'm hoping to find a solution without changing to Atomic Beauty(too thicc for me xD).  Thanks for the plethora of conversions, btw. This whole stuff is great.

 

Thank you in advance,

Cheers.

 

[Gameplayer]

On 7/27/2022 at 12:49 PM, RogueScoundrel said:

Hi, I have an odd bug that I can't wrap my head around. So this mod works fine with CBBE Body, all the necessary patches installed, I don't use other armor/clothing mod. There is, however, a Far Harbor Set absolutely refuses to be made proper with IKAROS, and those are the Assault Mariner Outer Armor Set and Marine Wetsuit. These are the only ones I found that are unable to appear, because every other outfits and armors appears just fine. I'm hoping to find a solution without changing to Atomic Beauty(too thicc for me xD).  Thanks for the plethora of conversions, btw. This whole stuff is great.

 

Thank you in advance,

Cheers.

 

 

Not sure what to do about it at the moment.

I have added them in my own game through console commands,

So here are the Marine Wetsuit and Chest piece.

From what I can see there may be some clipping with the chest piece but otherwise its not super noticable actually.

 

So assuming the vanilla items are actually installed with Atomic Beauty versions should just be a matter of using the console commands, of course bear in mind that these items are not specific to IKAROS they are shared between human and IKAROS, because there is no skin showing there was no need for IKAROS only versions and I think that is where you might be running into an issue here since there are quite a few items that have IKAROS only versions but these are not so.

[vraven1997]

Is there a little trick to get the sport bra and panties to work for ikaros body? I see the outfit for it in bodyslide and build the body for it and all, but when I equip it in game, it doesn't show. And I'm choosing the outfit version for ikaros.

I ended up checking in FOedit and added ikaros race to those armor pieces just to experiment and it worked, but the skin color was a little different from mine, but not sure if it would show my skin tone or not. I use ikaros skin material so I have human skin.