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Posted (edited)

On another note, do any of the toy mods alter followers? Aft (amazing follower tweak) stopped working…

( trying to find the guilty mod)

Edited by Sierrok
Posted
26 minutes ago, Sierrok said:

On another note, do any of the toy mods alter followers? Aft (amazing follower tweak) stopped working…

( trying to find the guilty mod)

 

No

  • A follower will participate in scenes, no different than a non-following NPC. But this is not altering them. Can't screw with a follower framework mod
  • At the end of the Toy Story quest, if you use the Trial altar, you can get banished, and your followers will be sent to the Follower Slavery Mod, and THAT mod may alter them while they are under its control. But this won't happen till you do get banished
Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, Sierrok said:

How do I adjust my position on devices, (meaning the first scene in SLaVE my ankles are in the wood and the dildo is... well doing nothing :PScreenShot15.png.e8a93eb28e8786704f1d59b71bfab03b.png

 

Misalignment in animation scenes 

 

EDIT: In your case its going to be either...

  • she's not default body scale (height) of 1.0    <--- my first guess would be this
  • not using standard skeleton (XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended)

This is a custom scene, not a love scene, so the other things in the article don't apply. They DO when you are in multi-actor love scenes. Three's no work around, many animation will not work well if you don't meet those 2 conditions.

Edited by VirginMarie
Posted

@VirginMarie This question relates to development for KSHair for Shout Like a Virgin SE.

 

I am aware of the StoneGirl NPCs in Toy Story and SLaVE that can cause CTD if they have facegen head meshes present, so I know that I must skip creating the facegen head mesh for VirginStoneGirl "Virgin" [NPC_:xx1033BD]

 

I have a simliar question about the NPC: VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] who is located in the Temple of Dibella:

[ACHR:xx03F967] (places VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of MarkarthTempleofDibella "Temple of Dibella" [CELL:00016DF3])

 

The issue that I'm seeing is that SLaVE does not include a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, which makes me suspicious.

 

When I generate a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, then I get a CTD when entering the Temple of Dibella.

 

Is there some known CTD-causing problem with the Elizabella NPC that means I should avoid facegen for that NPC ?

Posted
54 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

@VirginMarie This question relates to development for KSHair for Shout Like a Virgin SE.

 

I am aware of the StoneGirl NPCs in Toy Story and SLaVE that can cause CTD if they have facegen head meshes present, so I know that I must skip creating the facegen head mesh for VirginStoneGirl "Virgin" [NPC_:xx1033BD]

 

I have a simliar question about the NPC: VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] who is located in the Temple of Dibella:

[ACHR:xx03F967] (places VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of MarkarthTempleofDibella "Temple of Dibella" [CELL:00016DF3])

 

The issue that I'm seeing is that SLaVE does not include a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, which makes me suspicious.

 

When I generate a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, then I get a CTD when entering the Temple of Dibella.

 

Is there some known CTD-causing problem with the Elizabella NPC that means I should avoid facegen for that NPC ?

 

Only place I know to look for a facgen part (or missing part) for an actor is here....

 

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This is current released version, SE, loaded in SE CK.

I've always been generating her facegen, there's no CTD. So I wonder if something has mistakenly ended up changing in your ESP?

The only case of facegen as a no no, is the StoneGirl, virgin spider, hericine, and VirginLvlWarlockNecromancer

Posted

Excuse me but I was wondering what footwear is used for the lady wearing the dibella harness in the temple of dibella? I used Additem menu to search the esp for them but I can't find them.

 

These shoes here are what I'm asking about.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ClockworkTower said:

Excuse me but I was wondering what footwear is used for the lady wearing the dibella harness in the temple of dibella? I used Additem menu to search the esp for them but I can't find them.

 

These shoes here are what I'm asking about.

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Its not in the Virgin Toy Box, since its a quest item. You get it for the player when you complete the Foot Fetish quest.

 

You'd find it in AIM. Name is Virgin Foot Fetish. But that's cheating! :P 

 

Toy Story also has it in 2 other colors, a variant of it where it will change color when you "Charge" it with an orgasm. In Toy Story I think its called Curio Foot Fetish. Also a quest item, early in the story, and thus not in the Toy Box.

Posted
1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Its not in the Virgin Toy Box, since its a quest item. You get it for the player when you complete the Foot Fetish quest.

 

You'd find it in AIM. Name is Virgin Foot Fetish. But that's cheating! :P 

 

Toy Story also has it in 2 other colors, a variant of it where it will change color when you "Charge" it with an orgasm. In Toy Story I think its called Curio Foot Fetish. Also a quest item, early in the story, and thus not in the Toy Box.

That explains it, I have the foot fetish stuff disabled in mcm and I never would have though to look at items named foot fetish in the additemmenu, many thanks friend! I'll be sure to have a look at toy story.

Posted
44 minutes ago, leesjig said:

Hello, I see you fixed Cassia just standing there issue.  Lesbian animations working great with her.  Now the Virgin ghost are doing the same thing, they just stand there when I picked to start a luv scene with them.  Sorry.  Hope not effecting Nocturnal Luv scenes.  To Note:  All lesbian animations ff, fff starting fine with followers.  I do keep that gender match on all the time. 

  1. When you did "sleep with Cassia"... Does that one work fine too with your gender match ON? It should.
  2. With the Ghosts, they should be working during your first meeting with them. Did they?
  3. Then later they visit, and it can be a 3-some. That's different, and harder to ensure we get always a gender match... is that the case where you see a problem?

Are you trying the new upcoming Voice Pack?   here    perfectly safe to install mid-playthrough as its got no plugin, can't change your load order

Posted
15 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Misalignment in animation scenes 

 

EDIT: In your case its going to be either...

  • she's not default body scale (height) of 1.0    <--- my first guess would be this
  • not using standard skeleton (XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended)

This is a custom scene, not a love scene, so the other things in the article don't apply. They DO when you are in multi-actor love scenes. Three's no work around, many animation will not work well if you don't meet those 2 conditions.

I tried player.setscale 1... and also have bhunp body which requires xp32 skeleton... so i have that too. Do you think High Heel fix might play into putting me lower? I cant figure it out :P It is fine if i cant find a fix, just slightly annoying that the animation is off (But I will live :P)

Posted
7 hours ago, leesjig said:

 

I originally had gender match off my first encounters with both Cassia, and the virgin Ghosts.  so in animation they took on male roles.  Cassia had a dildo strap-on, and ghost animation one of ghost took on male role with dildo.  They kept causing the dragon born to loose her virginity.  was pissing me off.  haha.  so I kept loading old save.

 

Now I keep the gender match on.  So when Cassia run up to me,  a FF scene starts ok with Cassia.  That's great.

 

The virgin Ghost just stood there.  was wanting to try FFF threesum with virgin ghosts but they just stood there, animation would not start.(gender match on).  Guess I need to understand their purpose for being there, are the ghost there to take her virginity, raping her with stap-on?

 

Ok I'll try out the Voice pack next.   

  • My next play-through I will test with gender match always on. Thought I already did and it worked but will look more closely. There's of course the fact that we could have different SLAL packs thus available scenes varies
  • Auto random match-making is very hard when you get into 3+ actors. I want gender match to not ever prevent quest progress, but when its not critical, like the ghosts  visits after, and 3-some, then you need to consider the tool tip in the Toys&Love MCM which says... 
    • Love Scenes will attempt to fill each role with the intended gender. [ON] If correct gender not available, the scene will not play. This cant be limiting, preventing a scene in some cases. [OFF] The opposite gender will be substituted if available and allow it to play. No substitution for creatures.
  • Sometimes it can retry with different variations and find a scene but there's no guarantee of a scene when we go 3+ and that setting is on
  • No the ghosts are not there to take your virginity, but I see it as a nice side-effect. If you wear a secure chastity toy from Nocturnal, they can't take your virginity. If you don't, anyone can take your virginity 
Posted
1 hour ago, leesjig said:

I have 5 female followers, so when I ware the sanguine nipple claps, its pulling in all kinds of ff, fff, orgies.  So the fff working fine with followers.(gender match on)

 

So when 2 ghosts ran up to me, the fff would not start.(gender match on)

 

I will look at how the Love Effect on toys (like Sanguine Nip) are calling Love and compare to how the ghosts call it. Seems I did it better in the Love Effect... course that's where it matters most, there are many toys that use Love Effects, and mods that use it, not just those clamps.

 

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

 

So the latest update I can put toys on followers?  And they have sp. org.  Haven't tried that yet.  Hope true. ?

 

You have always been able to put toys on NPCS/Followers. What's new is that the important ones now more than cosmetic. You get working gags and working Magical Wrist Bindings. In toy Story you get toy that causes Telepathy Love and Fondle (a telepathic connection with your follower through toys worn).

 

I don't know what sp. org. means.

Posted
10 hours ago, Sierrok said:

I tried player.setscale 1... and also have bhunp body which requires xp32 skeleton... so i have that too. Do you think High Heel fix might play into putting me lower? I cant figure it out :P It is fine if i cant find a fix, just slightly annoying that the animation is off (But I will live :P)

 

Another thought... does player.setscale 1 work?

 

I would be using Height slider in ShowRaceMenu, as it could be just overriding 

Posted

Came into another slight issue, when I use the Luv Vu of the three part shout, The dragon 'transforms' but not realy. I get a Transformed Dragon npc, but the dragon also remains and continues its attack on me during the scene. What do I need to do to make it so the dragon is replaced by the 'transformed dragon?'

Posted
12 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Another thought... does player.setscale 1 work?

 

I would be using Height slider in ShowRaceMenu, as it could be just overriding 

Player.setscale 1 didnt seem to work, I will give this a try :)

Posted
8 hours ago, Sierrok said:

Came into another slight issue, when I use the Luv Vu of the three part shout, The dragon 'transforms' but not realy. I get a Transformed Dragon npc, but the dragon also remains and continues its attack on me during the scene. What do I need to do to make it so the dragon is replaced by the 'transformed dragon?'

 

Sometimes that happens, most times it does not. Depends on the dragon location. I don't know why. You are not doing anything wrong. I've not seen it hurt anything.

Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, leesjig said:

Question:  so when Nocturnal spawns in and strips all the items/toys from the body...everything that gets stripped just disappears into oblivion.  She stripped my whorecrux collar for the asphyxiation collar...I can't find it anywhere.  So when things get stripped to make room for what she wants to put on you, all those toys she strips just disappear forever, cause nothing is getting cycled back into my inventory when stripped.  haha I know this is sad.

 

Nocturnal is a nasty bitch!!!

 

But I am not. I never destroy items, unless there is a story reason, or the toy transformed into a new one. There is no destroy here

  • I just did that scene last night. ALL my toys stayed in inventory. I had to get rid of most of them since I don't like having a messy inventory, so this is why I remember
  • I just now checked the code, and it most certainly does not destroy them. There's a feature called "destroy", but you have to call that feature explicitly which I don't

I have no idea what to tell you. Should not be possible.

If you think its important enough to dig in deeper, need your papyrus log covering a short game session where you recreate the problem.  How to get a Papyrus Log?

 

What this scene does is check first, if all the toys you wear are allowed to be removed. DDs included. Another mod can say NoRemoval. Then it unequips all the toy slots needed, but does not destroy. If there's a toy that cannot be removed, the scene does not continue.

Edited by VirginMarie
Posted (edited)

For the deer outfit, (Foot fetish) I realize it doesnt fit the body properly, I can not find the skin/outfit in the bodyslides, is it a slavetat? Is there a version of it in bhunp?

 

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Edited by Sierrok
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Sierrok said:

For the deer outfit, (Foot fetish) I realize it doesnt fit the body properly, I can not find the skin/outfit in the bodyslides, is it a slavetat? Is there a version of it in bhunp?

 

Deerfu is 2 things:

  • head gear and hooves -  is a toy (so a mesh + textures), but this does NOT need bodyside. I would assume you are not saying there is a problem with this part though
  • the deerskin - is a texture. No its not using SlaveTats. Textures don't bodyslide. I've not seen anyone with the texture messed up like that. No Idea I'm no expert in textures. Did not make it. Your issue has nothing to do with the body you use. Something else, another body texture perhaps, is conflicting
    •  MCM has the option to turn it off, and you will still have the head gear and hooves. Suggest  you just turn it off
Edited by VirginMarie
Posted

Don't really know how to report bugs or anything (Not the most saavy online) But the mod workds great except for the shrines in the Temple of Divines in Solitude vanish (Except for Stendars). When I uncheck the mod they come back. is there an update or patch for this? Playing LE version.

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