toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved SE & LE

[VirginMarie]

17 hours ago, Testificate17185 said:

Edit: I do have an update. A log, to be precise. Have a look, please:

[08/23/2022 - 01:21:56AM] Error: MS06 (00026C4D): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.Start() - "<native>" Line ?
	[VirginTales (3408BFD7)].virgintales.Fragment_9() - "VirginTales.psc" Line 40
[08/23/2022 - 01:21:56AM] Error: MS06 (00026C4D): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ?
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124
	[VirginTales (3408BFD7)].virgintales.Fragment_9() - "VirginTales.psc" Line 41

 

 

So either...

1. Its always produced this error (I have no idea), but it does not matter, its always worked regardless. Not every error in the log has any actual impact  ...OR...
2. This is only occurring for you for some reason. I DO think this is the more likely case, and its a hint about what's up

For #1, I need not worry, but I WILL watch my log the next time I'm testing SLaVE at that point, so I can at least learn if its always producing the error

For #2, would need to rule out corrupt save by starting a new game an recreating it. Otherwise can be wasted time on wild goose chase

[Testificate17185]

4 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

For #2, would need to rule out corrupt save by starting a new game an recreating it. Otherwise can be wasted time on wild goose chase

I wish I could tell you it's a corrupt save and mark this off as irrellevant for you, but...well, see for yourself:

[08/23/2022 - 10:47:46PM] [SLaVE] Calling forth the ravens
[08/23/2022 - 10:48:43PM] Error: MS06 (00026C4D): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.Start() - "<native>" Line ?
	[VirginTales (3408BFD7)].virgintales.Fragment_9() - "VirginTales.psc" Line 40
[08/23/2022 - 10:48:43PM] Error: MS06 (00026C4D): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ?
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124
	[VirginTales (3408BFD7)].virgintales.Fragment_9() - "VirginTales.psc" Line 41

This is on a brand new save in which the only things I've done were (in order):
Complete the main quest until killing the first dragon

Speed through the first stages of the SLaVE questline without skipping anything (including Clavicus' quest)
Wait for ghosts and Gallus to show up and equip stuff
Go to Movarth's Lair and do the tallows quest as far as possible
Start The man who cried wolf and progress up to nocturnal's statue, use thuum
Report to Falk
Get the message that the new quest should be started, see it's not in journal, check log, write this post

Edited August 23, 2022 by Testificate17185

[VirginMarie]

33 minutes ago, Testificate17185 said:

I wish I could tell you it's a corrupt save and mark this off as irrellevant for you, but...well, see for yourself:

[08/23/2022 - 10:47:46PM] [SLaVE] Calling forth the ravens
[08/23/2022 - 10:48:43PM] Error: MS06 (00026C4D): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.Start() - "<native>" Line ?
	[VirginTales (3408BFD7)].virgintales.Fragment_9() - "VirginTales.psc" Line 40
[08/23/2022 - 10:48:43PM] Error: MS06 (00026C4D): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ?
	[MS06 (00026C4D)].QF_MS06_00026C4D.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124
	[VirginTales (3408BFD7)].virgintales.Fragment_9() - "VirginTales.psc" Line 41

This is on a brand new save in which the only things I've done were (in order):
Complete the main quest until killing the first dragon

Speed through the first stages of the SLaVE questline without skipping anything (including Clavicus' quest)
Wait for ghosts and Gallus to show up and equip stuff
Go to Movarth's Lair and do the tallows quest as far as possible
Start The man who cried wolf and progress up to nocturnal's statue, use thuum
Report to Falk
Get the message that the new quest should be started, see it's not in journal, check log, write this post

 

Given that this is in the main quest line, thus everyone does it eventually, its hard to imagine nobody else reporting it. But I will have to see if I can recreated it.

 

@Herowynne I know you are likely to run through that quest, or already have very recently. Did you run into any problem? If you get this particular problem its a show-stopper, you can't complete the Tales&Tallows quest.

Edited August 23, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Herowynne]

48 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

Herowynne I know you are likely to run through that quest, or already have very recently.

 

No, I have not gotten that far yet.

[Sierrok]

I just installed the SLaVE mod and its requirements, but am running into a interesting issue. 

Does anyone know why my anus is coming out of my back?

This only happens when walking.

[VirginMarie]

46 minutes ago, Sierrok said:

I just installed the SLaVE mod and its requirements, but am running into a interesting issue. 

Does anyone know why my anus is coming out of my back?

This only happens when walking.

 

New one for me. Why do you think its this mod?

First make sure you have started a new game.

 

Are you wearing any toy down in that region?

• No - there's no chance its caused by SLaVE or Toys&Love
  • You would need to look at your body related mods, or even the hair mod. A wrong supporting mod version, or lack of installing... re. the body mod's requirements, for example. Even something along the lines of this... SE versus AE Version Trap so for example HDT-SMP
• Yes - Its still body physics / bodyslide related
  • Most Toys&Love anal/vaginal toys don't need/use bodyslide, so unlikely this. But incase, use trouble shooting section at he bottom of this... Building toys in Bodyslide

[Sierrok]

Sorry bout that, found the culperate... Don't forget to build SLaVE in bodyslide

[Sierrok]

On another note, do any of the toy mods alter followers? Aft (amazing follower tweak) stopped working…

( trying to find the guilty mod)

Edited August 24, 2022 by Sierrok

[VirginMarie]

26 minutes ago, Sierrok said:

On another note, do any of the toy mods alter followers? Aft (amazing follower tweak) stopped working…

( trying to find the guilty mod)

 

No

• A follower will participate in scenes, no different than a non-following NPC. But this is not altering them. Can't screw with a follower framework mod
• At the end of the Toy Story quest, if you use the Trial altar, you can get banished, and your followers will be sent to the Follower Slavery Mod, and THAT mod may alter them while they are under its control. But this won't happen till you do get banished

[Sierrok]

How do I adjust my position on devices, (meaning the first scene in SLaVE my ankles are in the wood and the dildo is... well doing nothing

[VirginMarie]

15 hours ago, Sierrok said:

How do I adjust my position on devices, (meaning the first scene in SLaVE my ankles are in the wood and the dildo is... well doing nothing

 

Misalignment in animation scenes 

 

EDIT: In your case its going to be either...

• she's not default body scale (height) of 1.0    <--- my first guess would be this
• not using standard skeleton (XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended)

This is a custom scene, not a love scene, so the other things in the article don't apply. They DO when you are in multi-actor love scenes. Three's no work around, many animation will not work well if you don't meet those 2 conditions.

Edited August 25, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Herowynne]

@VirginMarie This question relates to development for KSHair for Shout Like a Virgin SE.

 

I am aware of the StoneGirl NPCs in Toy Story and SLaVE that can cause CTD if they have facegen head meshes present, so I know that I must skip creating the facegen head mesh for VirginStoneGirl "Virgin" [NPC_:xx1033BD]

 

I have a simliar question about the NPC: VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] who is located in the Temple of Dibella:

[ACHR:xx03F967] (places VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of MarkarthTempleofDibella "Temple of Dibella" [CELL:00016DF3])

 

The issue that I'm seeing is that SLaVE does not include a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, which makes me suspicious.

 

When I generate a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, then I get a CTD when entering the Temple of Dibella.

 

Is there some known CTD-causing problem with the Elizabella NPC that means I should avoid facegen for that NPC ?

[VirginMarie]

54 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

@VirginMarie This question relates to development for KSHair for Shout Like a Virgin SE.

 

I am aware of the StoneGirl NPCs in Toy Story and SLaVE that can cause CTD if they have facegen head meshes present, so I know that I must skip creating the facegen head mesh for VirginStoneGirl "Virgin" [NPC_:xx1033BD]

 

I have a simliar question about the NPC: VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] who is located in the Temple of Dibella:

[ACHR:xx03F967] (places VirginElizabella "Elizabella" [NPC_:xx03F966] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of MarkarthTempleofDibella "Temple of Dibella" [CELL:00016DF3])

 

The issue that I'm seeing is that SLaVE does not include a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, which makes me suspicious.

 

When I generate a facegen head mesh for Elizabella, then I get a CTD when entering the Temple of Dibella.

 

Is there some known CTD-causing problem with the Elizabella NPC that means I should avoid facegen for that NPC ?

 

Only place I know to look for a facgen part (or missing part) for an actor is here....

 

 

This is current released version, SE, loaded in SE CK.

I've always been generating her facegen, there's no CTD. So I wonder if something has mistakenly ended up changing in your ESP?

The only case of facegen as a no no, is the StoneGirl, virgin spider, hericine, and VirginLvlWarlockNecromancer

[Guest]

Excuse me but I was wondering what footwear is used for the lady wearing the dibella harness in the temple of dibella? I used Additem menu to search the esp for them but I can't find them.

 

These shoes here are what I'm asking about.

Spoiler

 

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, ClockworkTower said:

Excuse me but I was wondering what footwear is used for the lady wearing the dibella harness in the temple of dibella? I used Additem menu to search the esp for them but I can't find them.

 

These shoes here are what I'm asking about.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Its not in the Virgin Toy Box, since its a quest item. You get it for the player when you complete the Foot Fetish quest.

 

You'd find it in AIM. Name is Virgin Foot Fetish. But that's cheating!  

 

Toy Story also has it in 2 other colors, a variant of it where it will change color when you "Charge" it with an orgasm. In Toy Story I think its called Curio Foot Fetish. Also a quest item, early in the story, and thus not in the Toy Box.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Its not in the Virgin Toy Box, since its a quest item. You get it for the player when you complete the Foot Fetish quest.

 

You'd find it in AIM. Name is Virgin Foot Fetish. But that's cheating!  

 

Toy Story also has it in 2 other colors, a variant of it where it will change color when you "Charge" it with an orgasm. In Toy Story I think its called Curio Foot Fetish. Also a quest item, early in the story, and thus not in the Toy Box.

That explains it, I have the foot fetish stuff disabled in mcm and I never would have though to look at items named foot fetish in the additemmenu, many thanks friend! I'll be sure to have a look at toy story.

[VirginMarie]

44 minutes ago, leesjig said:

Hello, I see you fixed Cassia just standing there issue.  Lesbian animations working great with her.  Now the Virgin ghost are doing the same thing, they just stand there when I picked to start a luv scene with them.  Sorry.  Hope not effecting Nocturnal Luv scenes.  To Note:  All lesbian animations ff, fff starting fine with followers.  I do keep that gender match on all the time. 

1. When you did "sleep with Cassia"... Does that one work fine too with your gender match ON? It should.
2. With the Ghosts, they should be working during your first meeting with them. Did they?
3. Then later they visit, and it can be a 3-some. That's different, and harder to ensure we get always a gender match... is that the case where you see a problem?

Are you trying the new upcoming Voice Pack?   here    perfectly safe to install mid-playthrough as its got no plugin, can't change your load order

[Sierrok]

15 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Misalignment in animation scenes 

 

EDIT: In your case its going to be either...

• she's not default body scale (height) of 1.0    <--- my first guess would be this
• not using standard skeleton (XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended)

This is a custom scene, not a love scene, so the other things in the article don't apply. They DO when you are in multi-actor love scenes. Three's no work around, many animation will not work well if you don't meet those 2 conditions.

I tried player.setscale 1... and also have bhunp body which requires xp32 skeleton... so i have that too. Do you think High Heel fix might play into putting me lower? I cant figure it out  It is fine if i cant find a fix, just slightly annoying that the animation is off (But I will live :P)

[VirginMarie]

7 hours ago, leesjig said:

 

I originally had gender match off my first encounters with both Cassia, and the virgin Ghosts.  so in animation they took on male roles.  Cassia had a dildo strap-on, and ghost animation one of ghost took on male role with dildo.  They kept causing the dragon born to loose her virginity.  was pissing me off.  haha.  so I kept loading old save.

 

Now I keep the gender match on.  So when Cassia run up to me,  a FF scene starts ok with Cassia.  That's great.

 

The virgin Ghost just stood there.  was wanting to try FFF threesum with virgin ghosts but they just stood there, animation would not start.(gender match on).  Guess I need to understand their purpose for being there, are the ghost there to take her virginity, raping her with stap-on?

 

Ok I'll try out the Voice pack next.   

• My next play-through I will test with gender match always on. Thought I already did and it worked but will look more closely. There's of course the fact that we could have different SLAL packs thus available scenes varies
• Auto random match-making is very hard when you get into 3+ actors. I want gender match to not ever prevent quest progress, but when its not critical, like the ghosts  visits after, and 3-some, then you need to consider the tool tip in the Toys&Love MCM which says... 
  • Love Scenes will attempt to fill each role with the intended gender. [ON] If correct gender not available, the scene will not play. This cant be limiting, preventing a scene in some cases. [OFF] The opposite gender will be substituted if available and allow it to play. No substitution for creatures.
• Sometimes it can retry with different variations and find a scene but there's no guarantee of a scene when we go 3+ and that setting is on
• No the ghosts are not there to take your virginity, but I see it as a nice side-effect. If you wear a secure chastity toy from Nocturnal, they can't take your virginity. If you don't, anyone can take your virginity 

[VirginMarie]

7 hours ago, Sierrok said:

Do you think High Heel fix might play into putting me lower?

 

Yes

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

I have 5 female followers, so when I ware the sanguine nipple claps, its pulling in all kinds of ff, fff, orgies.  So the fff working fine with followers.(gender match on)

 

So when 2 ghosts ran up to me, the fff would not start.(gender match on)

 

I will look at how the Love Effect on toys (like Sanguine Nip) are calling Love and compare to how the ghosts call it. Seems I did it better in the Love Effect... course that's where it matters most, there are many toys that use Love Effects, and mods that use it, not just those clamps.

 

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

 

So the latest update I can put toys on followers?  And they have sp. org.  Haven't tried that yet.  Hope true. ?

 

You have always been able to put toys on NPCS/Followers. What's new is that the important ones now more than cosmetic. You get working gags and working Magical Wrist Bindings. In toy Story you get toy that causes Telepathy Love and Fondle (a telepathic connection with your follower through toys worn).

 

I don't know what sp. org. means.

[VirginMarie]

10 hours ago, Sierrok said:

I tried player.setscale 1... and also have bhunp body which requires xp32 skeleton... so i have that too. Do you think High Heel fix might play into putting me lower? I cant figure it out  It is fine if i cant find a fix, just slightly annoying that the animation is off (But I will live :P)

 

Another thought... does player.setscale 1 work?

 

I would be using Height slider in ShowRaceMenu, as it could be just overriding 

[Sierrok]

Came into another slight issue, when I use the Luv Vu of the three part shout, The dragon 'transforms' but not realy. I get a Transformed Dragon npc, but the dragon also remains and continues its attack on me during the scene. What do I need to do to make it so the dragon is replaced by the 'transformed dragon?'

[Sierrok]

12 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Another thought... does player.setscale 1 work?

 

I would be using Height slider in ShowRaceMenu, as it could be just overriding 

Player.setscale 1 didnt seem to work, I will give this a try

[VirginMarie]

8 hours ago, Sierrok said:

Came into another slight issue, when I use the Luv Vu of the three part shout, The dragon 'transforms' but not realy. I get a Transformed Dragon npc, but the dragon also remains and continues its attack on me during the scene. What do I need to do to make it so the dragon is replaced by the 'transformed dragon?'

 

Sometimes that happens, most times it does not. Depends on the dragon location. I don't know why. You are not doing anything wrong. I've not seen it hurt anything.