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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

I need suggestion for a new DoM quest: "Special Delivery" it will be templated to be reusable with different actors and side goals.

 

 

Interesting. Is the intent for NPCs to stick around at their new location or will they disappear after delivery? This will narrow down the list of possible choices to avoid breaking the game.

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, NicholasJMoore said:

 

Interesting. Is the intent for NPCs to stick around at their new location or will they disappear after delivery? This will narrow down the list of possible choices to avoid breaking the game.

The outcome could be of 3 possibilities:

 - Stay with client as a slave.

 - Sent back home as a warning.

 - Escorted back home for ransom.

 

So existing quests would not be broken unless the players does it intentionally.

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted
27 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

The outcome could be of 3 possibilities:

 - Stay with client as a slave.

 - Sent back home as a warning.

 - Escorted back home for ransom.

 

So existing quests would not be broken unless the players does it intentionally.

 

 

Thanks for clarifying. 

 

Btw, since the currently referenced voice pack is crashing (DiaryOfMine voicepack 2.6.2_0.1) I have been using "PAH - Diary Of Mine v.4.0.10Beta - Voicepack SE" as an alternative, and it seems to work aright, of course with some missing items. It's a decent interim imo.

 

Posted
9 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

You can have two versions of the same spell:

 - In your NSWS esp spell magic effect uses script pahnswsspell.psc

 - Flag NSWS esp as esm

 - Create NSWS DOM patch esp and edit magic effect in it, just change the script of the spell to domnswsspell.psc

 

Now you can have all the properties you want and your main esp only depends on PAH, second esp is the NSWS DoM patch.

yes i thinking this too. :)

9 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:
10 hours ago, Nonseen said:

i can use load-form-from-file aproach but based on my past experiences this slower than propertys.

 

:)

 

this the way i originaly built my NSWS, during the devlopment i realised my life more easy and les bug to deal if i make use condition system. To do that i needed acces pahe factions.

NSWS ment to be used with pahe any way so from user persepctive this not matter. (only negative side effect take forewer to load ck )

 

I found multiple sulution to make possible NSWS - DOM slave transfer:

1-ask you to add a function to DOM_Core that return a realised actor ( this one tested and working :) )

2-make a code change in my side make use the calls in from DOM_Core to deliver the slave from dom to me. (this one tested and looks to me works)

3-make a esp that esl flagged esp. this one depend on NSWorkingSlaves.esp and DiaryOfMine.esp, this one change how the add slave to workplace/remove slave from workplace works.

this one also use the code i mentioned above ( tested works )

good side of this:  this one can use propertys to get all varibles so its fast

 

i see fallowing problem with my solution 2, and 3 : its call dom_core functions that may or may not change in the future probably not.

 

To be honest i not deep dive pahe or DOM code. Some part of its solutions propbably above my current papyrus scripting skill level :( ( but i improving a lot :) , still level 100 is far away )

i tryed out this aproach and seems this one work the best! :) ( i mean fastest...)

 

i copy here the code that execute the action i hope i understand your instructions coretly and not used wrong functions... that may cause problem inside DoM.

 

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    pahscript = ( pah as pahcore )
    bool getslave = false

 

    if pahscript.getslave( akTarget )
        debug.notification("PAHE Slave detected!")        
        pahscript.GetSlave( akTarget ).Release()
        getslave = true
    else
        debug.trace("WS: Target is not PAHE slave, checking for DoM!")
        domscript = ( DOM01 as dom_core )
        DOM_Actor domslave = domscript.getactor(akTarget) as DOM_Actor
        if domslave != none
            debug.notification("DoM Slave detected!")        
            domscript.ReleaseActor( akTarget )
            getslave = true
        else
            debug.trace("WS: Target is not DOM slave, exiting!")
            return
        endif
    endif

;add slave to workplace if getslave is true ( this done for safety reason if something go wrong )

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You're calling twice pahscript.getslave( akTarget ) try to avoid that and use a temporary variable: PAHslave pahalias = pahscript.getslave( akTarget )

Thank you for pointing out. I useing a code sample that clifton showed me. I dont know a lot pahe inner workings.... so i use what proven to be working.

 

9 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Yes.

DOM01 is DOMCore

DOM01.DOM01 is slavers manager

DOM01.DOM02 is slaves manager

Thankyou agin for clerification! :)

Sadly my communication skills in enlish also non perfect :(

 

9 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Use the last one to add slaves with DOM01.DOM02.AddActor(akTarget, "", false)

 

Next update I will add easier interface:

 

DOM01.AddSlave(akTarget) ; to add slave. No need to use DOM02 as this function directly adds a slave, without the "just captured" effect.

DOM01.AddSlaver(akTarget) ; to add slavers.

 

To release actors, the interface already exists and works for both slaves and slavers:

 

DOM01.ReleaseActor(akTarget) ; to release actor be it slave or slaver

 

But next version you can make sure to target only slaves or slavers with the faster functions:

 

if DOM01.ReleaseSlave(akTarget) ; to release slave

    ; success means slave was found and released

else

   ; fail means actor was not found and is not a DoM slave

endif

 

if DOM01.ReleaseSlaver(akTarget) ; to release slaver

    ; success means slaver was found and released

else

   ; fail means actor was not found and is not a DoM slaver

endif

 

Thank you for this information!

My plan is this:

the NSWS basic version going to use the "old" way to remove/add slaves from dom upon detection. This version going to use get from file method.

 

i do this to make sure backward compatible the system.

 

NSWS-DoM support addon (or something similar named) get the new script version with very quick acces.

 

Question:

If a slaver get realised from dom, by accident.  Can cause any propblem to player? if yes i add some minimal safeguard for players to avoid accidental slaver realise from dom.

 

Again thank you for your help making this function possible :)

Posted
12 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

You can turn off tears from the MCM. I will add blush toggle next update.

 

Thanks that would be great for VR because for some weird reason blush textures have z-order conflict in VR.

Posted (edited)
51 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

 

Thanks that would be great for VR because for some weird reason blush textures have z-order conflict in VR.

It's in now! Tell me if it solves your problem.

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Posted
1 hour ago, NicholasJMoore said:

 

 

Thanks for clarifying. 

 

Btw, since the currently referenced voice pack is crashing (DiaryOfMine voicepack 2.6.2_0.1) I have been using "PAH - Diary Of Mine v.4.0.10Beta - Voicepack SE" as an alternative, and it seems to work aright, of course with some missing items. It's a decent interim imo.

 

I have a working full voicepack after reprocessing with the current sampling rate. I just need to test it before posting it. Maybe next week.

Posted

This mod is brilliant.  I was a little skeptical at first but damn does it bring a whole new level of life to all NPCs.  Thank you so much for making it. 

 

Quick question.  Once you give the command, "have sex with," or "prepare for a threesome"  how do you mark target/initiate the animation?  That is the only thing I haven't been able to puzzle out.  The rest is intuitive enough to figure out without a tutorial, though it takes a bit of work.   

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Joxer669 said:

This mod is brilliant.  I was a little skeptical at first but damn does it bring a whole new level of life to all NPCs.  Thank you so much for making it. 

Thanks!

 

5 hours ago, Joxer669 said:

 

Quick question.  Once you give the command, "have sex with," or "prepare for a threesome"  how do you mark target/initiate the animation? 

I'll add a dedicated section in the mod description because this is definetely a bit tricky.

 

Through dialogue:

1) Talk to slave "Honour your master/mistress" select one of the last option about sex/rape with another actor or threesome.

2-a) Talk to another slave "Honour your master/mistress" select the same option. The option line should have changed to "join your sex trainer".

2-b) Or you could select an NPC "Let's have a serious chat" select the option to have sex with your slave. It's down the list.

 

Through the wheel menu:

1a) Open slave abuse wheel menu, select punish, reason and "rape with" or "threesome".

1-b) Open slave training wheel menu, select rape or sex and "with" or "threesome".

1-c) Open NPC secondary wheel menu, select rape, sex or threesome.

2) A new wheel will open with a list of available slaves.

 

NOTE: I might need to add a check on sexlabanimatingfaction to avoid selecting busy slaves.

 

 

5 hours ago, Joxer669 said:

That is the only thing I haven't been able to puzzle out.  The rest is intuitive enough to figure out without a tutorial, though it takes a bit of work.   

It should, and sometimes one particular slave will be super easy.

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Posted
23 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Use the last one to add slaves with DOM01.DOM02.AddActor(akTarget, "", false)

Tested this function works great.

 

Ony problem i encountered and solved:

i found no way to make differencbe beatwen ex pahe and ex dom slaves. i attempted use domhistory faction but not worked, and found no other obius faction to see where this slave come from.

 

my solution is: players can dicide where send slaves from workplace via a in game menu.

So this way i solved the question. :) i dont know its any importance to other mods/modmakers.

 

in my best knowlage pahe uses a faction to tell this npc ex pahe slave or not:

PAHHasBeenPlayerSlaveFaction

Posted
7 minutes ago, Nonseen said:

Tested this function works great.

 

Ony problem i encountered and solved:

i found no way to make differencbe beatwen ex pahe and ex dom slaves. i attempted use domhistory faction but not worked, and found no other obius faction to see where this slave come from.

 

my solution is: players can dicide where send slaves from workplace via a in game menu.

So this way i solved the question. :) i dont know its any importance to other mods/modmakers.

 

in my best knowlage pahe uses a faction to tell this npc ex pahe slave or not:

PAHHasBeenPlayerSlaveFaction

Domhistory faction should work. Just check it for isinfaction. If it does not I will fix it for next update.

Posted (edited)

My slave is "falling in love" but that goes away frequently, and he is broken. What kind of punishments or other things would prevent him from falling in love? I seem to do something wrong. Humiliation would prevent it too, right?

 

EDIT: Also, i am confused - is sex generally a punishment, or exclusively if initiated through DoF Dialoge/Wheel Menu? He is always wailing during the act...

Edited by effrenatus
Posted

Is it normal that "in love" slaves are stuck on "hysterical"? I had this experience both with the old versions (3.x) and now with the new 4.x versions. My understanding was that "hysterical" means that they are close to "in shock", but I have not punished (or scolded) this slave for a long time as she is very obedient and never gave me a reason.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Domhistory faction should work. Just check it for isinfaction. If it does not I will fix it for next update.

in my priamry test not worked, i run another run of test to make sure my report not faulty.

 

After the thest done i report back, with the script i used in the test.

 

EDIT:

 

Re test done, my first test seems bugged. :(

sorry.

Edited by Nonseen
Posted (edited)
On 4/13/2023 at 10:41 AM, TrollAutokill said:

I need suggestion for a new DoM quest: "Special Delivery" it will be templated to be reusable with different actors and side goals.

 

Suggestions needed on:

 - A wealthy asshole ordering the special delivery. Should be any unique vanilla Skyrim actor with political or pervert motives.

 

Solitude

Erikur - in the main quest line encounter in the Thalamor embassy we witness him harassing a maid and if we tread the situation right, she gets interrogated in the basement later. I bet, he wants to silence her or get his fingers on her anyway or both. If it is to complicated, for example to avoid compatibility issues with play-throughs where she already left the game, he could be just be in need for some plaything from time to time. 

 

Sybille Stentor - we could tell her the guards are starting to gossip about her trips to the dungeon and offer her an alternative way to get pets for her experiments. She could have different needs from time to time, depending on what experiment she intends to subjugate the merchandise to. Also, she is semi-openly a vampire, perhaps she likes to taste different kinds of blood? There is a book where the taste of different races/types of victims is at least mentioned: Vampires of the Iliac Bay, Chapter II. Perhaps she is writing on something expanding that?

 

Riften

Haelga - what are her long-term plans with that frigid nice Svana Far-Shield exactly, after she made Haelga loose face in front of the Dragonborn?

Inderin - has motives to be Haelgas partner in crime, also would like to get back on Maven Blackbriar, fortunately there is this naive granddaughter of Maven walking home every evening through the darkest parts of Riften, Ingun Black-Briar. Perhaps he could need our help to paralyze/mind-break her with her own potion? Oh, the irony...

Esbern - what exactly did the old bloke do in his dungeon all this years? Sb. had to provide him with some entertainment. Perhaps there are remains of his playthings down in the ratway that need to be taken care of, after he is off with the blades some more? Or there is sb. starving in his hideout he wants to be taken care of? Could we blackmail him into sth. with that info?

Swims-In-Deep-Water - I would bet he likes some brutal breath-play down in his private pool in the Riften fishery, Argonian water breathing abilities have at least to be useful for something.

Sibi Black-Briar - There are more loose ends in his romantic past then just that one ugly one about his former fiancé in the Quest The Lovers Requital. Perhaps we could Blackmail the hell out of him AND her, especially bringing her down to some kind of local crime-partner under our thumb or even building her up to take revenge on Sibi.

 

Windhelm

Helgrid - after having to deal with hot young corpses more than enough lately, she found herself "caring" for them more, then she ever knew and wishes to scratch that itch after the crime-spree went dry...

Wuunferth the Unliving - "Whatever you've heard I can do is probably true." Ok, lad, that on time you were not involved directly, but don't tell me you don't enjoy scaring the shit out of innocent victims. Could have romantic interest in Helgrid and be trying to drag her to his depraved tastes. Perhaps he was the mastermind behind "Blood on Ice" and used Calixto as a pawn to lead Helgrid down this path?

 

Winterhold

Malur Sloth - overall shady character with imposter-syndrome wich needs to take out his frustration on sb. from time to time, I bet.

Arniel Gane - he created this great torturing spell as a byproduct of his research into soul gem convection. Perhaps he already had a side interest in low damage high pain spells for some reason?

Velehk Sain - He misses the taste of Virgin innocence in eternal agony. Perhaps he likes swap out used up, broken victims at some point. We could even gain some perks from him as a mentor.

 

Morthal

Hroggar - He seems so lonely after we killed his Vampire Master and he already has that nice coffin left in his basement...

 

 

 

On 4/13/2023 at 10:41 AM, TrollAutokill said:

 - A contact point to get the mission from. Could be Olava or someone from the DB or thief guild, or any other shady character.

 

Funny would be Swims-In-Deep-Water, just tossing in some special fishing operation for introduction. I like the idea of him being envious about the Alik'ri Fishing Rod, wich clearly is much superior to the Algerian one as an impact tool. There is a World Interaction "Alik'r Accusation", wich could be an easy starting point for quests like this, if the victim escapes. As a first reward, there could be a special variant of the Alik'ri Fishing Rod as a nice quality torture device and also interlocked with some other quest, like the idea above about Swims-In-Deep-Water. Perhaps we could be able to craft a cane out of these Fishing Rods after acquiring a prototype from the Alik'r Warriors as a reward?

 

Logical would be Sybille Stentor, she already uses prisoners as victims for her private pervs rather openly.

 

Or, if you'd like a metaphysical connection like a sub-daedric prince of abduction and pillaging boasting, of his former evil deeds as a torturing pirate (and an easy entrance quest to spin off from with him having captured 5 magical apprentices in Oblivion) Velehk Sain.

 

On 4/13/2023 at 10:41 AM, TrollAutokill said:

 - Side goals: package should be delivered broken, or blinded, or bagged, or virgin...

 - Victim to abduct and deliver. Should be any actor preferably from an influencial or wealthy family, but at least with some family. I am thinking of including Hot Chicks Have Hot Sisters as a possible source if the mod is installed.

Don't know the mods but I want to punish Ingun Black-Briar for her silly quest.

 

 

I have to do sth. else now, but if it helps, I could go on with the list of possible customers above and include at least one or two for all Cities and some remote places. 

 

 

Edited by Jekyll83
typos
Posted

Oh, I've been meaning to say: your Import/Export settings function has been broken for the last few releases.

Posted
On 4/13/2023 at 4:07 AM, DocClox said:

I need suggestion for a new DoM quest: "Special Delivery" it will be templated to be reusable with different actors and side goals.

 

This looks like an interesting quest!

 

On 4/13/2023 at 1:41 AM, TrollAutokill said:

 - Victim to abduct and deliver. Should be any actor preferably from an influencial or wealthy family, but at least with some family. I am thinking of including Hot Chicks Have Hot Sisters as a possible source if the mod is installed.

 

I am adding some candidates for this part :) I think these wouldn't affect the vanilla quests much.

  • Jora (or her husband): The Talos priestess living in Windhelm. A Thalmor buyer could be thinking of buying one of them as humiliation.
  • Brelyna Maryon: She's from house Telvanni. Some Argonians want to teach her how slave feels.
    • Neloth in Raven Rock may also want to buy some slaves, for research purpose.
  • Gisli:  Erikur's sister, now there could be someone who cares more about her than her brother.
  • Bryling: Although she has no actual family member, but she has a housecarl and she is in relationship with the steward Falk Firebeard. The Imperial supporters in solitude probably dislike her, also she is a competitor to every iron mine owner as she owns one too.
  • Nivenor: She is cheating on her husband Bolli, who is also bedding with Haelga. Her husband might be happy seeing her being taken away and punished.
  • Julienne Lylvieve: Her family might not be as influential, but Faida says they're the heart of Dragon Bridge.
  • Idgrod the Younger: Maybe someone is interested in her visions? Also, her mother's housecarl is thinking of overthrowing her family.
  • Hroki: Thonar Silver-Blood may want a new girl after his wife's death. His family owns Markarth anyway.
  • Keeper Carcette: She gets no family member but she leads Vigilants of Stendarr. Some Daedra worshippers would definitely like to buy her (before the vampire attack), or maybe the vampires already took her secretly as no dead body of her is found. Maybe she will belong to the player when Dawnguard questline is finished? In love if sided with dawnguard, loyal if sided with vampires.
  • Salonia Carvain (or her husband): The imperial noble that is going to attend Vittoria Vici's wedding with her husband. Bad things can happen on the road.

 

I don't know how the quest is going to be implemented, but I think all quest targets that are originally designed to be killed can be included in the victim part, like all DB targets and all of the DB members. If the quest giver says they want someone dead, then when player brings the target back as a well-trained slave, they would still consider the job done.

Posted (edited)

I just upgraded from 4.1 to 4.4.5, and now all potions, that are still in my slave's inventory from before, get automatically consumed by my character as soon as i leave slave inventory.

And after that, when I open it again and move some from mine to his for letting him carry them, i first see them on his side, but when i leave the inventory, my character suddenly consumes those too.

DId anyone else have that?

 

 

Oh and if someone please could help with my questions from near the end of the last page, that would be real nice.

Thank you!

Edited by effrenatus
Posted
22 hours ago, effrenatus said:

EDIT: Also, i am confused - is sex generally a punishment, or exclusively if initiated through DoF Dialoge/Wheel Menu? He is always wailing during the act...

Edited 20 hours ago by effrenatus

this happens to me as well and I was just trying to be nice to them for once.

Posted
10 hours ago, effrenatus said:

I just upgraded from 4.1 to 4.4.5, and now all potions, that are still in my slave's inventory from before, get automatically consumed by my character as soon as i leave slave inventory.

And after that, when I open it again and move some from mine to his for letting him carry them, i first see them on his side, but when i leave the inventory, my character suddenly consumes those too.

 

I will check that. Could be that your slave is trying to equip the potion.

Posted (edited)

Another thing: PAH slaves in sacks tend to evaporate, often quite quickly.

 

An example: I bagged the necromancer that spawns near Cronvangr Cave, bagged her, and rode to the Atronach stone and then Wichmist grove where I captured the witch. When I went to unbag the necromancer, the bag was empty and the slave missing from the PAH slave lists.

 

I don't know what changed or when exactly, but I remember being able to carry bagged slaves for a long time. Now practically any use of the sack risks losing the slave.

Edited by DocClox
Posted
1 hour ago, cantgetright008 said:

this happens to me as well and I was just trying to be nice to them for once.

I am wondering, if that wailing is really related to the ongoing sex or just the usual "chatter" just going on during it...

Posted
3 hours ago, effrenatus said:

I am wondering, if that wailing is really related to the ongoing sex or just the usual "chatter" just going on during it...

With the sex option the slave has the choice to refuse, and the event is not counted as rape. But it doesn't mean the slave enjoys it, that depends on the mood.

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