Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[TrollAutokill]

53 minutes ago, elfdrow said:

quick question.

a thug/trainer's "teach them to fear the whip" option. is it just random whipping hoping the slave raises the correct stat? (or in need of  direct command of the player ie: display to raise posing)

or do the trainers raise all the stats they know like in PAH home sweet home? (submission, combat, anger, etc )

It's different from HSH. Rather than incrasing all stats with a maximum at the trainer value, DoM uses the same mechanism as for the player. So the slave master is not limited but only valid punishment reasons will trigger training.

[elfdrow]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

It's different from HSH. Rather than incrasing all stats with a maximum at the trainer value, DoM uses the same mechanism as for the player. So the slave master is not limited but only valid punishment reasons will trigger training.

ok will try again. thanks

last time the imperial captain was my trainer. had the "I'm good at training" (in charge of training, not freed as slaver... haven't tried that one yet)

and she just went nuts with the whip XD

jumping between 3 slaves and a lot of "punish X for no reason" messages. (at helgen you notice she was a sadist but... wow)

 

but... so that means that trainers can't teach combat.

 

suggestion: add a XP modifier on the mcm (like the ones there are for sex, praise, etc). so combat can also get a boost. that's the stats that unless you get a "learning fast in combat" it takes forever. with the diminishing returns it takes more or less 5-10 encounters (since it doesn't seem to be dependent on anything else) for 1% at the ending.

 

edit:

I almost forgot. good job on the argonian dialogue (n_n)b I haven't laugh so hard in a while

"I'm against violence master. well violence against myself"

"would you agree to a platonic relationship master?"

as some examples. again GJ

Edited April 24, 2023 by elfdrow
to not double post :P

[TrollAutokill]

18 minutes ago, elfdrow said:

ok will try again. thanks

last time the imperial captain was my trainer. had the "I'm good at training" (in charge of training, not freed as slaver... haven't tried that one yet)

and she just went nuts with the whip XD

jumping between 3 slaves and a lot of "punish X for no reason" messages. (at helgen you notice she was a sadist but... wow)

 

but... so that means that trainers can't teach combat.

 

suggestion: add a XP modifier on the mcm (like the ones there are for sex, praise, etc). so combat can also get a boost. that's the stats that unless you get a "learning fast in combat" it takes forever. with the diminishing returns it takes more or less 5-10 encounters (since it doesn't seem to be dependent on anything else) for 1% at the ending.

For the moment they only train the normal 6 slave stats or the 6 plus the 3 sex stats.  Combat is only trained in HSH. But maybe later if there is a way to trigger a combat training scene in Skyrim.

 

Anyhow for trainers and slavers there is a separate multiplier in the MCM.

Edited April 24, 2023 by TrollAutokill

[TrollAutokill]

6 hours ago, elfdrow said:

 

I almost forgot. good job on the argonian dialogue (n_n)b I haven't laugh so hard in a while

"I'm against violence master. well violence against myself"

"would you agree to a platonic relationship master?"

as some examples. again GJ

If my memory serves me well, maybe the first one is mine, but most race specific lines are from @Farsh-nuke

Edited April 24, 2023 by TrollAutokill

[TrollAutokill]

21 hours ago, Kharos said:

The new armor/clothes feature is causing me some issues:

1. Tell slave to wear protective armor and make sure that they have no clothes in inventory
2. Tell slave to undress
3. (wait a while doing other stuff)
4. Tell slave to put on their armor again

Result: Slave agrees but does not have any clothes so stays naked

Workaround:

1. Tell slave to not wear armor
2. Tell slave to wear armor protective armor

Result: Slave puts on armor again.

 

 

This is expected because right now being naked cancels the wear armor order.

Next update will change this behavior with wear_armor+should_be_naked translating to shields are allowed but do not wear clothes.

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by TrollAutokill

[terrorofmorrowind]

What happened to the dialogues?

I can't seem to see them.
I'm using version 4.5 which should work with 8.2.0
The slave info spell from pahe also no longer shows the stats of a slave.

Huh, interesting. Is there a reason why I have to manually transfer my slaves under the DoM system? I got the dialogues now.
Nevermind, I just discovered there's a dialogue to move the slave back to pahe dialogue so I'm gonna guess there's one in pahe that allows you to move them to DoM too. Man, looks like a lot changed since 2.12 that I was using previously.

Edited April 24, 2023 by terrorofmorrowind

[Kharos]

Bug? It looks like the 4.5.0 FOMOD installer always installs DOMHSH.esp, even if "Home Sweet Home for DoM 4" is not selected in the installer.

[gekker]

8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

This is expected because right now being naked cancels the wear armor order.

Next update will change this behavior with wear_armor+should_be_naked translating to shields are allowed but do not wear clothes.

 

 

My slaves seem to be forever naked unless I reclone them, then they'll wear their PAH outfit or whatever equippable items are in inventory (unsure which).  Trying to "choose what they wear" through DoM doesn't seem to do anything.

Edited April 24, 2023 by gekker

[Kharos]

8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

This is expected because right now being naked cancels the wear armor order.

Next update will change this behavior with wear_armor+should_be_naked translating to shields are allowed but do not wear clothes.

 

 

I did some more testing, some things are definitively not working.

 

Starting with a slave who is wearing armor and also has one set of clothes in the inventory:

1. Listen to me -> about your duties -> do not wear protective armor, result: slave becomes naked ❌ should wear the clothes from the inventory
2. Put your clothes back on, result: slave agrees but stays naked because they does not have clothes ❌ (as above)
3. (open inventory and remove armor)
4. Listen to me ->about your duties -> wear protective armor, result: slave puts on clothes ✔️ (because there is no armor in inventory)
5. (open inventory and add armor) -> result: slave puts on armor ✔️
6. Undress now -> do it nicely, result: slave gets naked ✔️
7. Put your clothes back on -> slave agrees but stays naked because they does not have clothes  ❌ (see below)

Observations:

• (A) The "do not wear protective armor" mode is not working correctly, slaves see normal clothing as armor and stay naked. Only the "wear protective armor" mode is working correctly at the moment.
• (B) We may disagree about the expected result after step (7). I would argue that for best usability, the Put your clothes back on command should remember the previous state before the undress command (clothes <-> armor) and restore that state, so the slave should put on armor in my test case. Especially because that command is in the first level, while the command to switch to armor is in the third level of the dialogue tree.

 

[Edit] @gekker seems to confirm my observation (A).

Edited April 24, 2023 by Kharos

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

What happened to the dialogues?

I can't seem to see them.
I'm using version 4.5 which should work with 8.2.0
The slave info spell from pahe also no longer shows the stats of a slave.

Huh, interesting. Is there a reason why I have to manually transfer my slaves under the DoM system? I got the dialogues now.
Nevermind, I just discovered there's a dialogue to move the slave back to pahe dialogue so I'm gonna guess there's one in pahe that allows you to move them to DoM too. Man, looks like a lot changed since 2.12 that I was using previously.

Yes indeed. DoM slaves and PAHE slaves are in different lists now. But you can move them around with the 'Let's have a serious chat" dialogue tree.

 

The slave stats spell only lists stats above 0 with DoM. But it will tell you if the slave is PAHE, DoM or HSH.

 

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, Kharos said:

Bug? It looks like the 4.5.0 FOMOD installer always installs DOMHSH.esp, even if "Home Sweet Home for DoM 4" is not selected in the installer.

I don't know enough of fomod to solve the double requirement HSH/noHSH and SE/LE.

 

Anyhow, the esp will not be loaded if you don't have HSH since it has the HSH as a master.

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, gekker said:

 

My slaves seem to be forever naked unless I reclone them, then they'll wear their PAH outfit or whatever equippable items are in inventory (unsure which).  Trying to "choose what they wear" through DoM doesn't seem to do anything.

If you don't provide them with any clothes they will be naked. Also if you told them to be naked they won't put on any clothes.

[gekker]

16 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

If you don't provide them with any clothes they will be naked. Also if you told them to be naked they won't put on any clothes.

Is nakedness the default on capture? Or rather, if you abduct to DoM, how do you avoid nakedness?  Because when I abduct the slaves they are naked when they spawn.

 

Asking for a CFNM friend.

Edited April 24, 2023 by gekker

[TrollAutokill]

14 minutes ago, gekker said:

Is nakedness the default on capture? Or rather, if you abduct to DoM, how do you avoid nakedness?  Because when I abduct the slaves they are naked when they spawn.

 

Asking for a CFNM friend.

If they are naked when they spawns it means their outfit was deleted. Usually by pahe capture process.

[gekker]

19 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

If they are naked when they spawns it means their outfit was deleted. Usually by pahe capture process.

 

Last question, does DoM use the same capture process as PAHE?

[Kharos]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

I don't know enough of fomod to solve the double requirement HSH/noHSH and SE/LE.

 

Anyhow, the esp will not be loaded if you don't have HSH since it has the HSH as a master.

 

It would probably need a rewrite of the FOMOD to use flags and conditional install steps. I learned how to do that some time ago from this tutorial, though it is long enough that I have forgotten most of it (where is the goldfish emoticon when I need it?).

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, gekker said:

 

Last question, does DoM use the same capture process as PAHE?

Yes. But with DoM the outfit is saved before capture and restored when the slave is released.

 

It's a workaround to the infamous "naked bandit bug" but it's not perfect. It means as long as you have slaves from a spawned actor base, those will be naked when spawned.

[ammasah]

Hi i got a bug where the skin color ( the whole body is white except the head ) is changing by my slave after 1-2 minutes of interaction especially after having sex with them or choking them.

does anyone know this bug and a solution?

 

otherwise great mod!

Edited April 25, 2023 by ammasah

[TrollAutokill]

20 minutes ago, ammasah said:

Hi i got a bug where the skin color ( the whole body is white except the head ) is changing by my slave after 1-2 minutes of interaction especially after having sex with them or choking them.

does anyone know this bug and a solution?

 

otherwise great mod!

Short answer: SlaveTats.

 

Long answer: This is because either you don't have SlaveTats installed or you forgot to rebuild the database in the slavetats menu or you have a big problem with SlaveTats.

[ammasah]

32 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Short answer: SlaveTats.

 

Long answer: This is because either you don't have SlaveTats installed or you forgot to rebuild the database in the slavetats menu or you have a big problem with SlaveTats.

sry my fault i was too lazy to check the  ''known bugs''

im about to test it right now.
thank you for the quick response and again good job everything is in place in that thread

 

PS: it worked

Edited April 25, 2023 by ammasah

[Kharos]

@TrollAutokill I gave it a try and modified your ModuleConfig.xml to use the more advanced features. Feel free to use it. You should be able to easily see and understand the differences in a diff tool.

 

I gave it a quick test run with a few combinations and it seems to work, but it will require further testing as I was not able to test all combinations. I did make sure that the xml is valid using an online xsd validator; I suggest you do the same if you continue editing the file (even if you keep using yours) as your current file had errors. Getting it to validate also required me to change the encoding to UTF8 (it was UTF16 LE with BOM) and to update the XSD schema location.

 

I also noted that the archive has a folder PLUGINS\LE\SKSE that does not seem to be used by the installer?

 

Cheers!

 

[Edit] Re-uploaded the file after converting leading spaces to tabs to match the original style, sorry.

ModuleConfig.7z

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Kharos

[Shirokamineko]

How exactly does the HSH Interface work? I can't seem to find the dialogue despite following install instructions.

[Gracker]

i am having an issue where the slaves are stripping nude immediately after being abducted. They do not put on clothing/armor if I give it to them. Have you seen this before?

[TrollAutokill]

4 hours ago, Shirokamineko said:

How exactly does the HSH Interface work? I can't seem to find the dialogue despite following install instructions.

Same as with PAHE. You need to be in an HSH cell and talk to a DoM cell. Try with a PAHE slave to see if the dialogue is there and make sure DOMHSH.esp is loaded. It's SE only for the moment.

[Kharos]

7 hours ago, Gracker said:

i am having an issue where the slaves are stripping nude immediately after being abducted. They do not put on clothing/armor if I give it to them. Have you seen this before?

 

Not sure if you are seeing the same as me, but you may be hitting an issue with the current version. As a workaround, try the following dialogue command:
 

Listen to me ->about your duties -> wear protective armor